They said pyro was comming in 2017 2018 2019 the. Nothing for 4 years. Now 24 people can play it on Lan? Wow what about 10 year old Backers what do we get? Oh nothing
I think Pyro has been ready ready for a while now. With SM taking so long they just kept fleshing it out because what else were they gonna do. I suspect one other system is also about ready at this point. SM really took its sweet time.
I think they’ve been pretty honest with the systems they’re working on. I’d love to be wrong, but it’s likely just a (much more) fleshed out Pyro with little to no work done on Nyx. The exception being Odin (S42 system).
@@MaxFlood84 Well look how much time and money went into rdr2. That's some shady single player game right? There were less information to the development of rdr2 compared to Sc42 and in addition to that developed by rockstar who are one of the bests at grabbing money out of the players pocket. Still rdr2 is one of the best games ever made. After you're logic u can call every development of nearly any game shady so it doesn't really matter. In the end both sides can't prove anything. You can't prove that they're working on sq42 neither can we prove it.
After playing the demo at citizencon, the gameplay felt really stable. With the 40 minute time slot that people have per session, I found a couple of the other people trying it out ingame. The AI felt much better than it currently does in the PU, ship flight (at least for the corsair) had quite the change, the game crashed once but was able to load right back in to where I was, and the number of locations in pyro was vast. Very good experience in pyro and it feels pretty much complete!
So in this video you see greenhouses around 2:40 and in the PTU I found a science equipment getting highlighted in interaction mode. this may be a teaser towards the Endevor may be some work on the Bio Pods or Science systems. may be nothing but may be something real. Only time will tell.
It wont. Nobody but some "wish it to be"-simps said so. No offence man. Just learn to listen and dont jump an irrational hypetrain and blame others afterwards for your mistake in boarding it. That way you wont get dissapointed nor angry. Just be chill about it. If it's ready, it's ready. If you cant wait, then dont. If you dont want to spent money on an Idea that will maybe come fully to reality in another decade or more, then dont. Just dont blame others for what you do or did ;-)
Why would CR give up the whole thing in one go when he can milk an entire year of kudos for the same accomplishment? Limited sneak-peak demo at Q4 2023; concierge demo (or whatever) Q1 2024; playerbase limited demo Q2 2024; PTU Q3 2024; bugfixes Q4 2024. Then in 2025 he can start selling jump coordinates to Pyro for 40 bucks per ship, or only 5 bucks per month for your entire fleet.
I bet it means one more set of locations to fall through planets, die on lifts, spontaniously explode or keister a package. Lose cargo, glitch through floor 30k or get flung from cockpit during quantum. I hope we get serious improvements, i love this in spite of growing pains, i plan to ride it out.
I see a few possibilities here: first is what you said, pyro only at citcon but not coming to ptu due to server meshing. Second, they lied to us regarding the replication layer and are actually much further along so that we could see 4.0 on evocati/ptu within the remaining 2 months or third: they could always drop pyro without meshing on seperate servers as a stand alone system and we can choose whether to spawn in stanton or pyro
The third option was actually discussed in the Inside SC episode where they are discussing it in a meeting room, Ub this fragment of that episode they tell us that they want to Prioritize getting Pyro into the PU above Server meshing, and are aiming to use the jumppoint as a point where they split servers, this would be a temporary solution until they get server meshing to work However, this episode was about a year ago? and they announced splitting the replication layer in 3.21 imminent, so this would indicate they are getting to the finishline on the servermeshing part
I think the third option is actually acceptable. Some people over on reddit were saying it doesn’t make sense to give Pyro as a separate server without jump points and server meshing. I see the point from a tech “moving forward” perspective but still think most people would be happy to play (and test) a different location. Eventually SM could come and bring them together.
It is not just the replication layer though, they stated that after they get it sorted out would come static server meshing of just the Staton system then they would merge the two systems with larger static server meshing. Assuming that each will take one patch cycle if there are no problems means it wouldn't be complete until June at the earliest so splitting the systems and letting us log into either until it is ready is a sound bet.
It means one thing and one thing only: that they have a playable demo of Pyro at Citizencon. I know CIG well enough now not to read between the lines and decide on what we think it means, and to take this as exactly what it says, no more and no less.
If only Chris Roberts were as good at managing software development as he is in exploiting FOMO and the sunk cost fallacy to convince people to donate money to a poor multi-hundred-millionaire.
NGL if they allow us to spawn into a different system, they should give us the option while server meshing is being worked on. Delamar would be good to visit again, for example.
I'd think it would interesting if they created a Pyro server and Stanton server, players cannot switch between them. Then let the two server communities grow independently and then open up the gate and server meshing. Would be interesting to see what would come of that.
@@tommeegunn9318 I think fair warning is all it needs. Pyro is SC without all the comfort and security, great challenge for experienced players. Stanton is better for the new guys or non-combat players.
It was clearly the plan to have pyro and SM ready for now but as the tech has slipped they’ve wanted to show off the content anyway. They can’t just pivot the whole focus of an event like citizencon so they’ve gone ahead as best they can
you do know when pyro hits live servers in the near future, Stanton will become a ghost town as everyone will be in pyro system as they spent the last 10 years in Stanton and probably bored of it. But super hyped to see pyro in action.
Honestly this really all depends what there is to do in Pyro over Stanton (especially given Pyro takes substantially longer to cross than Stanton and has basically no law and order) It'll probably be where miners and salvagers have to go to make the sort of profit they make now, but with that much greater risk and travel times
Don't you think they'll just have an entirely separate instance of the game with separate servers and premade accounts for the Pyro presentation? Also I'm with the people who say Pyro has been content complete for a while now and they've just been polishing it while they wait for the server technology to catch up. That makes a lot of sense given what we've heard so far. Not that I have any delusions it will be polished and bug-free on release. Of course it will still be very messy on release 😂
As other have said they could give us pyro and have us log in to either stanton or pyro from the main menu. They could also allow us to go between the two at the jump point stations with a loading screen instead of the jump points until they get jump points and server meshing ready.
Everyone is going to be hyped for Pyro soon(tm) and then be super disappointed when we are still saying "Pyro soon(tm) for real this time!" in December 2024.
Probably they are going to do that, give us servers with Pyro insteat of Staton as playable system.. but.. the problems we face with ai not responding, servers not responding will be still present meanwhile we wait for server meshing. it will become a butchered launch of what could have been, pyro need to be launch with server meshing so we have good response of the servers.
If this is a drop box selection, I can see this going wrong if we select pyro but cannot go into stanton - should the pyro servers crash and burn there will be a lot of players unhappy..
If pyro releases later this year it will be a small portion of Pyro and youll probably have to log into it from the main menu instead of picking Stanton.
So those that go get to play the latest - thats pretty lame . I think should we all get access to this, and they can do it via another launcher option.
Pyro is not this year, it maybe mid-next year. Most likely EVO might have it in Q4. I'd rather have more QoL and other gameplay features in and fleshed out before Pyro and I believe CIG is in that same boat. Sure, another system is cool but if it's more of the same then wth.
It REALLY lessens the impact of the game if you loading-screen to get between star systems. Id rather wait and get the full functionality promised than pretend Im okay with Star Citizen having a loading screen between maps. Yeah it's a petty complaint, but if we don't get annoyed then there's no pressure to give us the game promised.
Is it in the game working? Are server tick rates at an acceptable level for competitve pvp? Is SQ42 released? Is static meshing in the game? If no I don't care about what they say they are going to maybe do someday. No money till Pyro / Sq42 / Meshing these grifters have had more than enough time and money time to start showing results instead of more talk.
Of course you start directly in Pyro with a premade character. What do people expect here? Its a convention show case, not the entire game. You'll spawn there and walk/fly around. What the Pyro show case has to do with the Stanton system is beyond me. The jump tunnel isn't as interesting or important.
Had they mentioned that playing in Pyro was an option at Citizen con, I definitely would’ve bought a ticket. I feel like they missed an opportunity there.
Without a shadow of a doubt if Pyro is able to play at CitizenCon, I truly believe we will have it in PTU by the end of the year. But for those that think Pyro’s coming out to live, you got another thing coming. Knowing CIG they will still send Pyro through the proper testing channels prior to release. 😅 remember this is 100% my opinion.
Getting to test pyro on a closed lan is a great treat for citcon attendees
They said pyro was comming in 2017 2018 2019 the. Nothing for 4 years. Now 24 people can play it on Lan? Wow what about 10 year old Backers what do we get? Oh nothing
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@vrnorwaynorway6048 I would be shocked if they add pyro live during a live stream 😂
I think Pyro has been ready ready for a while now. With SM taking so long they just kept fleshing it out because what else were they gonna do. I suspect one other system is also about ready at this point. SM really took its sweet time.
This tech look like something insane, ends of limitations.. Must be almost impossible to do i guess, as no one ever did this
I think they’ve been pretty honest with the systems they’re working on. I’d love to be wrong, but it’s likely just a (much more) fleshed out Pyro with little to no work done on Nyx. The exception being Odin (S42 system).
I believe many things are ready, and awaiting Server meshing and SQ42
80% of the devs are working in Squadron 42 that's what they're doing
@@MaxFlood84 Well look how much time and money went into rdr2. That's some shady single player game right? There were less information to the development of rdr2 compared to Sc42 and in addition to that developed by rockstar who are one of the bests at grabbing money out of the players pocket. Still rdr2 is one of the best games ever made. After you're logic u can call every development of nearly any game shady so it doesn't really matter.
In the end both sides can't prove anything. You can't prove that they're working on sq42 neither can we prove it.
After playing the demo at citizencon, the gameplay felt really stable. With the 40 minute time slot that people have per session, I found a couple of the other people trying it out ingame. The AI felt much better than it currently does in the PU, ship flight (at least for the corsair) had quite the change, the game crashed once but was able to load right back in to where I was, and the number of locations in pyro was vast. Very good experience in pyro and it feels pretty much complete!
That sounds great thanks for letting us know. Hope your having a great time at citizencon 🙌
As soon as they put the new R&R stations into the PTU i had a feeling we would see playable Pyro at/for CitCon. i really hope we see it live soon.
So in this video you see greenhouses around 2:40
and in the PTU I found a science equipment getting highlighted in interaction mode.
this may be a teaser towards the Endevor may be some work on the Bio Pods or Science systems.
may be nothing but may be something real.
Only time will tell.
this footage is like 4 years old.
It means a wipe is coming (thank goodness I got too much clutter)
It would be nice to just see Pyro released to everyone at Citron. The waiting game and constant hypes for nothing is getting old.
It wont. Nobody but some "wish it to be"-simps said so.
No offence man. Just learn to listen and dont jump an irrational hypetrain and blame others afterwards for your mistake in boarding it. That way you wont get dissapointed nor angry. Just be chill about it. If it's ready, it's ready. If you cant wait, then dont. If you dont want to spent money on an Idea that will maybe come fully to reality in another decade or more, then dont. Just dont blame others for what you do or did ;-)
Why would CR give up the whole thing in one go when he can milk an entire year of kudos for the same accomplishment? Limited sneak-peak demo at Q4 2023; concierge demo (or whatever) Q1 2024; playerbase limited demo Q2 2024; PTU Q3 2024; bugfixes Q4 2024. Then in 2025 he can start selling jump coordinates to Pyro for 40 bucks per ship, or only 5 bucks per month for your entire fleet.
I bet it means one more set of locations to fall through planets, die on lifts, spontaniously explode or keister a package. Lose cargo, glitch through floor 30k or get flung from cockpit during quantum. I hope we get serious improvements, i love this in spite of growing pains, i plan to ride it out.
I see a few possibilities here: first is what you said, pyro only at citcon but not coming to ptu due to server meshing. Second, they lied to us regarding the replication layer and are actually much further along so that we could see 4.0 on evocati/ptu within the remaining 2 months or third: they could always drop pyro without meshing on seperate servers as a stand alone system and we can choose whether to spawn in stanton or pyro
To regain some trust and to test it out before meshing is completed, the third option would be excellent and wise of them.
@@AKARazorbackit's more cringe that you replied the same thing under two diffrent comments
The third option was actually discussed in the Inside SC episode where they are discussing it in a meeting room, Ub this fragment of that episode they tell us that they want to Prioritize getting Pyro into the PU above Server meshing, and are aiming to use the jumppoint as a point where they split servers, this would be a temporary solution until they get server meshing to work
However, this episode was about a year ago? and they announced splitting the replication layer in 3.21 imminent, so this would indicate they are getting to the finishline on the servermeshing part
I think the third option is actually acceptable. Some people over on reddit were saying it doesn’t make sense to give Pyro as a separate server without jump points and server meshing.
I see the point from a tech “moving forward” perspective but still think most people would be happy to play (and test) a different location. Eventually SM could come and bring them together.
It is not just the replication layer though, they stated that after they get it sorted out would come static server meshing of just the Staton system then they would merge the two systems with larger static server meshing. Assuming that each will take one patch cycle if there are no problems means it wouldn't be complete until June at the earliest so splitting the systems and letting us log into either until it is ready is a sound bet.
It means one thing and one thing only: that they have a playable demo of Pyro at Citizencon. I know CIG well enough now not to read between the lines and decide on what we think it means, and to take this as exactly what it says, no more and no less.
If only Chris Roberts were as good at managing software development as he is in exploiting FOMO and the sunk cost fallacy to convince people to donate money to a poor multi-hundred-millionaire.
All I hope is seeing sneak peaks and gameplays from that closed LAN
It means "probably another year..."
NGL if they allow us to spawn into a different system, they should give us the option while server meshing is being worked on. Delamar would be good to visit again, for example.
Delamar is in the nyx system, but they could also release that as they have been working on it for the last couple years.
my thought : lucky ones will experience Pyro at the booth and we'll have to wait for server meshing + Pyro in the PTU
I'd think it would interesting if they created a Pyro server and Stanton server, players cannot switch between them. Then let the two server communities grow independently and then open up the gate and server meshing. Would be interesting to see what would come of that.
Most would pick Pyro just to see the new system, get stuck and the salt would really flow
@@tommeegunn9318 I think fair warning is all it needs. Pyro is SC without all the comfort and security, great challenge for experienced players. Stanton is better for the new guys or non-combat players.
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It was clearly the plan to have pyro and SM ready for now but as the tech has slipped they’ve wanted to show off the content anyway. They can’t just pivot the whole focus of an event like citizencon so they’ve gone ahead as best they can
A playable demo would be great. Many folks have been waiting for this moment.
you do know when pyro hits live servers in the near future, Stanton will become a ghost town as everyone will be in pyro system as they spent the last 10 years in Stanton and probably bored of it. But super hyped to see pyro in action.
Honestly this really all depends what there is to do in Pyro over Stanton (especially given Pyro takes substantially longer to cross than Stanton and has basically no law and order) It'll probably be where miners and salvagers have to go to make the sort of profit they make now, but with that much greater risk and travel times
I am staying in Stanton for the foreseable future. All on my own without anyone to bother me :) let everyone go sightseeing in Pyro
What's to keep them from just dropping another update and calling it 4.0?
JumpGate will come with loading screens. Not with the warp surfing option
They will release Pyro as a separate PU. So players can either log into Stanton or Pyro until they join them using the jump points.
Well at least we'll get a good look at Pyro! When in ptu?? I can hardly wait any longer!
Don't you think they'll just have an entirely separate instance of the game with separate servers and premade accounts for the Pyro presentation? Also I'm with the people who say Pyro has been content complete for a while now and they've just been polishing it while they wait for the server technology to catch up. That makes a lot of sense given what we've heard so far. Not that I have any delusions it will be polished and bug-free on release. Of course it will still be very messy on release 😂
I'm looking forward to the 3.21 replication layer changes. If that is functional, there's a much better chance of cig moving forward into Pyro.
Is 3.21 live tomorrow?
Whats in evocati now?
Looking forward to new frontiers to explore in the Verse.
As other have said they could give us pyro and have us log in to either stanton or pyro from the main menu. They could also allow us to go between the two at the jump point stations with a loading screen instead of the jump points until they get jump points and server meshing ready.
I've been saying for days they'll reveal Pyro as playable and everyone's been dismissive....we shall see
Everyone is going to be hyped for Pyro soon(tm) and then be super disappointed when we are still saying "Pyro soon(tm) for real this time!" in December 2024.
Sooo excited to get on some Pyro gameplay at Citizencon!
Very jealous lol. Have fun 🙌
Pyro is playable now if you have gasoline and matches!
You are, whether right or wrong, the best of the SC TH-camrs. I wish I could donate, but you always get a thumbs up.
Wish you were going to be there with us all.
Probably they are going to do that, give us servers with Pyro insteat of Staton as playable system.. but..
the problems we face with ai not responding, servers not responding will be still present meanwhile we wait for server meshing.
it will become a butchered launch of what could have been, pyro need to be launch with server meshing so we have good response of the servers.
I do not get excited about anything until it is in the PU. And then it is boring within a few days.
If they were leasing Pyro, the jump points will be with it.
Not necessarily
I was kind of like. Lool we are not going to see Pyro anytime soon. But now I'm slightly like hmm maybe
If this is a drop box selection, I can see this going wrong if we select pyro but cannot go into stanton - should the pyro servers crash and burn there will be a lot of players unhappy..
Why would you want to go to Stanton at the event?
If pyro releases later this year it will be a small portion of Pyro and youll probably have to log into it from the main menu instead of picking Stanton.
What makes you think it will be a small portion?
I bet our boy is itching to get on and play 3.21...Well you have to wait!!!.
It’s the MAC ATTACK! 💥
So those that go get to play the latest - thats pretty lame . I think should we all get access to this, and they can do it via another launcher option.
It means you'll be able to play Pyro at CitCon. Probably. Many asterisks.
It means yall about to get duped tower of wars style
Just hope Pyro doesn't go the way of TOW. It was playable at Citcon before also.
Well, in fairness, the studio that was working on TOW (Firesprite) was bought out by Sony(IIRC). Not really CIG's fault.
Pyro is not this year, it maybe mid-next year. Most likely EVO might have it in Q4. I'd rather have more QoL and other gameplay features in and fleshed out before Pyro and I believe CIG is in that same boat. Sure, another system is cool but if it's more of the same then wth.
It REALLY lessens the impact of the game if you loading-screen to get between star systems. Id rather wait and get the full functionality promised than pretend Im okay with Star Citizen having a loading screen between maps.
Yeah it's a petty complaint, but if we don't get annoyed then there's no pressure to give us the game promised.
I agree loading screens ain't how the game was presented. Like seamless game play without loading screens.
Pyro next year, s42 next gen
Next Gen... that makes me think we won't see SQ42 before vulcan and Ray Tracing are finished.
It's just the dev server. I'll be more impressed if it was the PU to be honest
I let ya know what it's like
Is it in the game working? Are server tick rates at an acceptable level for competitve pvp? Is SQ42 released? Is static meshing in the game? If no I don't care about what they say they are going to maybe do someday. No money till Pyro / Sq42 / Meshing these grifters have had more than enough time and money time to start showing results instead of more talk.
Of course you start directly in Pyro with a premade character. What do people expect here? Its a convention show case, not the entire game. You'll spawn there and walk/fly around. What the Pyro show case has to do with the Stanton system is beyond me. The jump tunnel isn't as interesting or important.
Very cool
Personally I just want Delamar and Levski back. Figure they'll bring the Nyx system to SC around 2043.
Levski! I couldn't remember the name of that place to save my life. Thanks for the reminder.
#Pyro2023
Had they mentioned that playing in Pyro was an option at Citizen con, I definitely would’ve bought a ticket. I feel like they missed an opportunity there.
Means it’s just another hype
Pyro 2020
No money till PIRO!!!! Fak cig
Stay level headed... 2019 the same happened for ToW. Just saying.
This means nothing at all. CIG showed a Lot of stuff 6 years ago we never got. They will try to create a hype and make shipsales... As always
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Without a shadow of a doubt if Pyro is able to play at CitizenCon, I truly believe we will have it in PTU by the end of the year. But for those that think Pyro’s coming out to live, you got another thing coming. Knowing CIG they will still send Pyro through the proper testing channels prior to release. 😅 remember this is 100% my opinion.
Not playable for you for 3 more years but sure. :)
Pyro jump gates will be the best place for hunt all kind of criminals when it comes to pu 🫡😁🫶🏼