How I Edit My Film Photography with Loupedeck+

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  • @mattdayphoto
    @mattdayphoto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1010

    bUt YoU aReNt SuPpOsEd To EdIt FiLm?!
    These look great, man.

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Loool, thanks Matt!

    • @thedondeluxe6941
      @thedondeluxe6941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Tell that to Ansel Adams! Hahaha :-)

    • @waltercardenas8727
      @waltercardenas8727 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@thedondeluxe6941 yup ansel did some major burning & Dodging on his negatives. But i gotta agree with Matt here; with so much editing why bother shooting film? Especially color film. Save yourself the expense & just shoot digital for color.

    • @thedondeluxe6941
      @thedondeluxe6941 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, I totally agree actually. Was just trying to be funny!
      If I use film, it's for the specific look of the film stock. And I usually prefer making analogue prints from film negatives anyway. If something needs a lot of adjustments, I shoot digital.

    • @SergioFlores-ej6mw
      @SergioFlores-ej6mw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@waltercardenas8727 except matt was being sarcastic because he edits his film too

  • @anothajosh
    @anothajosh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +176

    Appreciate that you’re willing to not only show people how you edit but explain why you make certain edits. I know it’ll help a lot of the newer photographers.

  • @Aubrey-h8l
    @Aubrey-h8l 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Willem you are the most informative and comprehensive photography channel. You have clear passion, and each video is so well made and interesting. Thank you!

  • @chelseadenisevisuals
    @chelseadenisevisuals 5 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    This is the best photo editing video I’ve watched. Your explanations are always clear and concise and leave me with a better understanding. Love the way you went over split toning too. Can you do a more detailed tutorial on metering for film? Metering for shadows vs highlights and all that. When and how/ the steps? When to overexpose by a stop or two or when to just shoot at box speed based on the lighting? / Your logic and reasoning for common situations that would help new medium format shooters

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Thanks! Sounds like a great idea

    • @DarkJupiter16
      @DarkJupiter16 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Willem Verbeeck please do!

    • @alfonsolopc
      @alfonsolopc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@WillemVerb Hi willem, did you ever make this video? Could you link up?

  • @maxwellwellmax878
    @maxwellwellmax878 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    You should put out a course on Lightroom, the way you explain things is really nice.

  • @spencerstone7696
    @spencerstone7696 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The split-toning section opened a whole world for me. Thanks for the video. As always, awesome stuff. Cheers!

  • @KonnorwithaKay
    @KonnorwithaKay 5 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    I've never understood the idea of people not editing their film. Like...what do you think people were doing in the darkroom... Now we just do it on our computers!

    • @tallaganda83
      @tallaganda83 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      KonnorwithaKay It is essential

    • @mvsr990
      @mvsr990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's just different strokes and where you put your emphasis on the process - when I was in school it was all the rage to use a filed negative carrier to show your natural borders, in part illustrating that you got the shot in camera rather than cropping after the fact. Maybe dumb but it became an important piece of how many of us worked.
      On the rare occasion that I shoot film, I do very little processing - because for me the act of using film as I captured it is the point of going through the cost and trouble.

    • @DiogoCDSousa
      @DiogoCDSousa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right ? People clearly don't understand what goes on during the developing process. Like i said before a lot of people think they know a lot until they do.

    • @tomcav
      @tomcav 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This comment just made me realize why it’s called “Lightroom” 😂 I never thought about it

  • @jhope1923
    @jhope1923 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm stunned people act like film should not be edited. All the masters used development tricks to make their photos the way they were. As you were Willem. You're a young passionate film photographer, doing what was done in the past, with a modern twist. Keep it up.

  • @juliannaumann
    @juliannaumann 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    liked how face-paced this video was, no time wasted, just straight what you do and how. looking forward to more!

  • @bodythetan
    @bodythetan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude, you nailed it. Thanks for the easy easy easy explanations of what you were doing and WHY you were doing it.

  • @flojeune
    @flojeune 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Willem, you are such a good educator , a part of being a fantastic artist and beautiful human being!

  • @aboud510
    @aboud510 5 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Only real ones know this video was uploaded a couple of days ago and deleted instantly.

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      ❤️

    • @shukugroms6021
      @shukugroms6021 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i saw that one and i was so confused that it said recent.

    • @_joka9
      @_joka9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sameeee haha got the screenshot still 😂

  • @dillost234
    @dillost234 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love how you explain your reasoning. I think that does more than anything else to help budding photographers (aka me) pull away the core principles for their (my) own photography. Cheers

  • @fangxusun1723
    @fangxusun1723 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    the best film photography channel.

    • @tom_from_myspace
      @tom_from_myspace 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. Just no.
      Ted Forbes talks photo history, technique, gear... without the trendy Instagram stuff that fucking ruin photography. There many better photography channels, I don’t say this one is bad, but it’s not the best

    • @TheBaconVanMan
      @TheBaconVanMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One of my favorite for sure! My go-to for film hands down.

    • @user-ut1wl4gc2l
      @user-ut1wl4gc2l 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom so why are you watching this channel lol, you must take a thing or 2

  • @prodbyscars
    @prodbyscars 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Best photography channel no cap

  • @HGRGRY
    @HGRGRY 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In love with the first two images, they look like an album cover for blood orange!

  • @yesmaam5880
    @yesmaam5880 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    @williemverbeeck I really like how you explain the process of taking pictures and pre and post production, many photography channels just tease and talk circles about things that don’t matter.

  • @cooperjanusevskis502
    @cooperjanusevskis502 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    so stoked to see the Duckwrth video!

  • @Josje95
    @Josje95 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your channel is exactly the kind of thing that I was looking for. The content is golden and very refreshing compared to some other photography channels on yt. Keep it up!!

  • @FTrovatten
    @FTrovatten 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hi Willem,
    I’m Frederik!
    Our common friend Wesley told me to check out your channel. He helped me pick my first Film Camera (Canon AE-1) last week and we documented it all for a video coming soon :)
    But I've only shot one roll of film, so I'm a complete noob. I’ll brew myself some coffee and binge watch your film tutorials!

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like fun!! Thank you

    • @zpacey963
      @zpacey963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 of my favorite photography youtubers 👁👄👁

  • @michaelbennettphoto
    @michaelbennettphoto 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video, as always Willem! So happy to see your process!

  • @JimmyFerminFilms
    @JimmyFerminFilms 5 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Film Enthusiasts : How dare you edit film, you’re never suppose to edit or change the photo you shot
    Every Famous Film Photographer : Did you even look at our negatives?
    Love these types of videos, always nice to see other peoples process when editing photos. I’ve started playing more with black and white, been getting bored of color.

    • @TheKiwiJobes
      @TheKiwiJobes 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      God i can't stand 'purists' they literally have no idea how much tweaking goes on in the darkroom.

    • @exquisitearc8498
      @exquisitearc8498 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes but, famous photographers who used film back in the day weren’t necessarily using it for the effect that film has on the photos, they just had no other option. I think the reason film enthusiasts are so adamant on not editing their photos is because they want to get as much of the film look as possible and the best way to do that is to simply keep the image as similar to the literal film negative as possible.

    • @marcd7332
      @marcd7332 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exquisite Arc No one is complaining of people not editing their film, people are complaining of purists getting mad when someone doesn’t abide by their “law”

    • @nick8945
      @nick8945 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@exquisitearc8498 I don't necessarily agree that not editing your film photos is the only way to retain the film look. If editing your film negatives on a computer take away from its look, then does not editing your digital negatives take away from the digital look. I would say that the look of film and digital negatives are much more complex and simply the act of editing vs not editing, won't change the fact that one image uses microscope crystals and the other uses pixels, not matter if you choose to edit the photos or not, they should still or film aesthetic.

  • @stools4437
    @stools4437 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    You are my favourite photography youtuber

  • @youssefbassil4000
    @youssefbassil4000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I spend my sunday afternoons waiting for your videos, and to be honest I'm never disappointed

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sunday 11AM ONLY 😤

  • @livligamusic
    @livligamusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So it seems that simplicity is key. Thanks for sharing your techniques. Been checking your videos since seeing the Hasselblad 500cm one and now I finally got one for myself and itching to get my first film rolls back from the lab, so this video is really useful. Thanks! Keep up the good work.

  • @terencewong7946
    @terencewong7946 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i love the edits on your photos, especially how you don't over edit since I see SO many people over edit their photos till it dosent look nice anymore.

  • @bykmsh
    @bykmsh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Respect from south korea. Thank you for sharing your skills ! :)

  • @s.j.249
    @s.j.249 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro that loupedeck is sick! Also, amazing job with the quality video, I love all of your videos and you’re honestly giving so much to the photography community. I’ve learned so much from people like you that I can really get the most from this, its really made a significant change in my photography and I cant thank content creators like you enough ❤️

  • @iPhotographyCo
    @iPhotographyCo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always been intrigued by the Loupedeck, so its good to see it in use. Great vid Willem

  • @nghtfall
    @nghtfall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What monitor is that and how do you make sure the colours are accurate on it? Like do you do calibration or just make sure the monitor is good?

  • @angelicemu
    @angelicemu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That last photo is so gorgeous

  • @hapg93
    @hapg93 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for a really informative video! When I started scanning for myself i realized that there really cannot be any scanning without editing, I guess unless you want your color negatives to look like, you know, orange negatives. So to the people who are “against editing film”, if you are getting your negatives scanned at some lab and they look fine to you, they have probably already been through some editing the lab..

  • @JuliusPfeiffer
    @JuliusPfeiffer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just great content! I like how honest you are in all your videos! Keep up the great work, greetings from Belgium!

  • @JerryRevolution
    @JerryRevolution 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how different this editing process is. Simple and concise.

  • @HoppiHoffi
    @HoppiHoffi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When doing the split Toning, you can hold the option key to see what colour you are adding

  • @spectrichor
    @spectrichor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I've been wanted to watch this since the last time you uploaded.

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      😈😈

    • @spectrichor
      @spectrichor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WillemVerb ignore those people who say we can't edit film photo, mate. We can do whatever we wanna do to our arts.

  • @agilhasyim9162
    @agilhasyim9162 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is deadass the best lightroom tutorial i've ever seen in youtube lol. Thanks dude

  • @Ilovecharcoal
    @Ilovecharcoal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my God this is so helpful!! Thank you for making this video

  • @aribetterlari
    @aribetterlari 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear Willem either just heard the funniest joke in the world or is high af. Great video bro. So much learning for me.

  • @Mickey-bo6cv
    @Mickey-bo6cv 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful! Please make more videos about editing like this one. Thank you!

  • @Stevenstevio
    @Stevenstevio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    in my opinion,in the thumbnail the before looks incredible in comparison to the after photo

  • @MrTheManav
    @MrTheManav 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quick tip. When you edit the Split Toning you don’t have to increase the saturation to see the effect of the particular color. Just hold the alt button while you change the color to see it at 100%. I’m sure you could translate that to your keyboard but yeah.

  • @nikoumali
    @nikoumali 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Come on man! You make it look easy.

  • @k00jeans
    @k00jeans 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    what camera do you use for shooting your videos? and now that I know that you use Adobe Premiere for editing/color grading, I'd love to know how you do it bc istg every frame of every video is color graded really well

  • @absolutsurvival
    @absolutsurvival 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video once again! and thanks for sharing your wisdom and experience with others, every time it makes me re-inspired to go out, take photos, and explore ^_^ (shoutout from your fan in Australia 🐨 )

  • @lmd3556
    @lmd3556 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't usually comment on youtube but I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel, Willem! Keep up the great work.

  • @remy88_z
    @remy88_z 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This reminds me of audio mixing tutorials. The same exact situation occurs with some engineers not feeling at ease sharing mixing secrets, whereas others don't mind going in deep. A good mix is definitely a major enhancement, but microphone placement (focus), room reverb management (lighting), musical arrangement (framing), and content/texture (subject) are what primarily make a good piece. (I realize the analogy might be different for others haha).
    My question, is as follows. I mix a lot, and sometimes I load plugins without thinking. Like "I'll compress this track here". The act of loading the plugin is mechanical, almost automatic, without thinking, after which I need to really ask myself "is this neccessary?". Is there a similar moment of pause when you are editing in Lightroom, thinking "well I'm going to split-tone now--but wait--does this shot actually require this technique by default?"

  • @xavierbrown5230
    @xavierbrown5230 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again great video man! Your style is amazing!!!

  • @rubendekker
    @rubendekker 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    really like the peace at the end. Keep up the good work bruh!

  • @lauradenicee
    @lauradenicee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So mesmerizing to watch! Such a good video and love your photos!

  • @olivierparent3554
    @olivierparent3554 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    was wondering could one decide (for the picture of the black artist) to keep the warm colors to look like the light come from the sunset???

  • @randomsixty
    @randomsixty 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice overview of your process.

  • @austinpaskerian8777
    @austinpaskerian8777 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video, love seeing your insights, I always learn something new that I can apply

  • @inesmota9389
    @inesmota9389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi love the video! one question tough. do you prefer lightroom classic cc or lightroom (cloud) cc? thanks and keep going!!!

  • @jasonblake5576
    @jasonblake5576 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really excellent, thanks for sharing your process, very cool!

  • @tuandoan8237
    @tuandoan8237 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    oh hi Williem, hope you have a good day. Could you please recommend which scanner that i should use when scanning film ( prontier or noritsu)?

  • @jacobmaness7244
    @jacobmaness7244 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Loved how in depth you went. I am curious to see how to data manage and file sort. Thanks for sharing.

  • @taifu7040
    @taifu7040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Willem,
    I'm still in high school and have been shooting for ~2 years now & being much more creatively focused so I would say I'm still on the amateur side technically, but after watching all of your videos I've decided to make a complete transition to film. the mamiya rz67 is definitely one of my top choices for a film camera (i've been shooting my dad's old nikon f50) but I'm afraid that I'm not technical enough to be able to use it to its best potential. what do you think i should do??

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you should worry less about the camera ;)

    • @taifu7040
      @taifu7040 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WillemVerb ahhh yeah ur right man, i've just been bashed by so many other photographers at my school for being negligent of gear but at the end of the day it's whether or not your photos look nice. thanks!

  • @yungkid13A
    @yungkid13A 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What kind of monitor do you have?

  • @_ErickRangel
    @_ErickRangel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet video! Where is the image from the thumbnail?

  • @psychoanima
    @psychoanima 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video, really hard to see good photographers sharing their editing process! Do you feel any limitation while editing scans compared with digital raw photos? Also, could you at some point share the process of printing, how do you manage to keep colors coexistent on monitor and paper. Looking forward to see more of your "technical" but still creative videos, and I have noticed that you really like to boost highlights which gives some special feeling to your photos.

  • @allourep
    @allourep 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Willem! Do you suggest an amateur buy Lightroom stand alone or do subscription?

  • @pakamonkumkaewprom5444
    @pakamonkumkaewprom5444 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I been waiting for this video, thank you so much:)

  • @lena___
    @lena___ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    man you’re going places. this is awesome and i love the images.

  • @alanescalante1
    @alanescalante1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These look great man 👌🏻 hope to see more of these in the future. The way you explained everything was super informative and helped me realize things I hadn't before. Anyway good job dude!

  • @ninodjuras
    @ninodjuras 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You and Jamie Windsor are the best photo youtubers 👍👌

  • @nigo9868
    @nigo9868 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Top video as always, one of the few who shares their skills. Waiting for comparison video whit different type of scanning process ( flatbed / drum / dsrl scan ecc. ) It would be very interesting

  • @arvinmarjouei2993
    @arvinmarjouei2993 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have a video on scanning or can you make one, i have an epson v600 and i never get good results when i scan myself (for color) for bnw it works perfect

    • @misterpink1312
      @misterpink1312 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you have probably found it by now, but he has made a video on this: th-cam.com/video/4G2L5dHBSy0/w-d-xo.html&t

  • @anti2892
    @anti2892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Loupedeck looks mad convenient, might consider investing after watching this. Great content bro!

  • @nmpt304
    @nmpt304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loupedeck reminds me of a company called Palette (palettergear.com) that has the same objective of making the editing/creating process easier, except all the components are modular!
    Great video :)

  • @andresdiaz2578
    @andresdiaz2578 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    at first I thought the loopdeck keyboard looks like something a music producer would use!🤣

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Starting a DJ channel with the Loupedeck soon

  • @portraitsandcoffee2162
    @portraitsandcoffee2162 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing your editing process!

  • @TheAcousticframe
    @TheAcousticframe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video !
    Would you tell me what Monitor you use?

  • @raspberry_snail
    @raspberry_snail 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you by any chance know what camera brand you used to shoot the film?

    • @kithsg1
      @kithsg1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      samson stebbins Usually Mamiya RZ67

  • @frederiklund7693
    @frederiklund7693 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome man! You really got me thinking about a more minimalistic edit - love your work!

  • @kenwu9976
    @kenwu9976 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance u can talk about ur monitor? I actually have been have been trouble finding a good color profile for my monitor

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a terrible AOC monitor from 2012 that cost about 100$

  • @nineteenseventy4588
    @nineteenseventy4588 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you use Silverfast for Scanning with it‘s Film Filters?

  • @michael_house
    @michael_house 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have loved to see the image in the video thumbnail edited. I mean - that Coney Island series is kinda what I know you for. ;)

  • @marandozaton
    @marandozaton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    less is actually more here and i love it

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ☝🏼☝🏼☝🏼

  • @LBVGamer
    @LBVGamer 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you feel like the loupedeck is worth the money? would you say that it like adds a level of speed and enjoyment that justifies the $200 price tag?

  • @JoesapTV
    @JoesapTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best photographer on TH-cam! 🙌🏻

  • @soulfulstrum131
    @soulfulstrum131 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, is there any point in editing tif over raw files?

  • @bummerc8752
    @bummerc8752 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What monitor are you using ?

  • @fatcatshatsatonamat
    @fatcatshatsatonamat 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, really enjoyed this

  • @LauraWithACamera
    @LauraWithACamera 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video and how you explain everything! I always wondered what you edited with. Very informative, thank you for sharing your techniques and giving an insight into the process 🎞
    I also love how you use Lightroom and not Capture One or other editing software that’s usually considered as the ‘industry professional standard’. I only use Lightroom (and Photoshop) too as I really like how it works, so it’s nice to know you use it too.

  • @treyvonsmith2349
    @treyvonsmith2349 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh daaaamn. You worked with Duck, that’s crazy!

  • @tanneramaral403
    @tanneramaral403 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    how does the ISO of the film effect how you can edit the photos afterwards?
    Also how can you add and remove some grain?

  • @danielemmons412
    @danielemmons412 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait, is there a way to copy the setting without the Loupedeck without creating a new preset?

  • @pedromaciel9054
    @pedromaciel9054 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You dont use curve tons? Hello from Brasil

  • @kazzilla99
    @kazzilla99 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So much respect, thank you!

  • @maltemichels
    @maltemichels 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Neat! Would've loved seeing the process behind the picture on the thumbnail. 🙂

    • @WillemVerb
      @WillemVerb  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      hahah it actually was in there before it didnt make the final cut.

    • @Halbmond
      @Halbmond 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Willem Verbeeck I still believe that was just clickbait because the editing in this video is actually really good 👌

  • @danielemilazzo432
    @danielemilazzo432 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    really great, thank you!

  • @kory443
    @kory443 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    yo what monitor are you using

  • @journeybrothers2337
    @journeybrothers2337 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! Darkroom tweaks without test strips = lightroom

  • @kahizfahsya5569
    @kahizfahsya5569 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    how you get a white space outside of your photos?

  • @yungkid13A
    @yungkid13A 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What kind of desktop is that?

  • @szymonsekula
    @szymonsekula 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice bike

  • @shocknawe
    @shocknawe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that thumbnail inverted?

  • @nicholo1
    @nicholo1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    And do you print inkjet or digital c-print ?

  • @chuchotv.
    @chuchotv. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what app you use to edit???