Hi friends, here’s our latest Honest Government Ad - featuring extra-long calculator action by popular demand. This one's about our Govt’s EV “policy” aka “The Future Fuels Strategy”, aka FFS. And no that’s not satire, it’s what they really called it… presumably in an attempt to put satirists out of work 😤 I had to also make a special mention of the Victorian State Govt (which I think normally does a lot of good things) given their decision to introduce a tax on EVs. Victoria will be voting on the EV tax in early May so if you want to let them know how you feel about it, here's a petitioon that will be hand-delivered to crossbench MPs ahead of the vote. Please add your name: nb.tai.org.au/dump_ev_tax There was so much to say on this topic that I couldn’t fit in the video. But that’s exactly where the Juice Media Podcast comes in handy as a companion to the video, allowing us to go into more detail. I'm stoked to have as my guest Ketan Joshi - so stay tuned: the podcast will be coming out next week! A huge thanks to our Patrons who make it possible for us to make the Honest Government Ads and the podcasts. If you value the work we do and are able to comfortably support it, please show our Patreon some love: www.patreon.com/TheJuiceMedia 💛 Giordano & team
feelsbadman when the australia institute is actually suggesting a positive change for once... makes me think there's more to it than just a tax on ev's 😅😅
Lets discuss. Lets not beat around the bush. Legislation by the Vic gov is definitely a tax, but not on electric cars per se. It's more or less a continuation of the fuel excise - the tax you pay on petrol, diesel and LPG. Which is meant to bring in revenue for the federal government to put back into roads - but that's a whole other can of worms. In Victoria the average driver will travel ~13000km/year and pay an average of ~4-4.5 cents/km in fuel excise tax = ~$585/year in fuel excise tax. You're obviously not buying traditional fuel to power your fully electric, other zero emission vehicle or hydrogen vehicle so you would otherwise never pay this fuel excise tax and is lost revenue for the federal government to allegedly spend on road infrastructure. [EDIT: Assuming this passes] Introducing the "ZLEV Road-user charge!" - is the replacement of the fuel excise tax. Depending on how far you drive you might benefit from this new charge. Fully electric, other zero emission vehicles or hydrogen vehicles in Victoria get $100 discount on registration and basically only-pay-for-what-you-use in km/year at a rate of 2.5 cents/km. So, Mr. Average driving 13000km/year will pay ~$325 in this new road charge tax compared to the ~$585 in fuel excise tax. I think this is a good deal *IN GENERAL* and seems to solve a problem the government had loosing revenue. But, I assume, like many of the people here, would like to see more incentives and a *real push* from our governments to accelerate our transition to sustainable energy and create opportunity for business. It's fucking pitiful our governments are staring tiny pieces of the puzzle solving insignificant problems when it's so obvious to everyone else not in government that foregoing a small amount of revenue is such an easy cost/benefit comparison that when we zoom the fuck out we can see removing pollution alone [see video above] increases our health, IQ, kids' potential etc. This is what people should be upset about. The tax means nothing. Our governments aren't *DOING* enough. Haven't been *DOING* enough. And Australian citizens are fucking peeved about it. We expect more done. We want more done. We deserve more done. We need new solutions not a copy paste of an old solution.
@@vitorreis9094 Personally, I'm not seeing any reason to tax electric vehicles. It would stunt any good momentum for sustainable energy in general, let alone EV adoption. If the federal government needed extra cash for roads I'm sure they'd find it in the hundreds of millions they've pulled from public health over the years. And I agree the Libs are turning every sector of the economy into the shitfuckery that is the NBN
The magic of fake democracy, if it was a dictatorship they would have been defenestrated already. Make the people feel the politicians are their own fault is such a clever head fake.
@@dianerose8316 That explain about you not really bright in what you said. You should know they are left wing in the video you watch and they do not tell the truth and lie what they say.
I remember watching this video when it came out. Fun fact for anyone that doesn't know, but Victoria did put through the EV tax which lasted one year before a court ruling said it was unconstitutional :) Anyone who did pay a tax on their EV got a refund.
What is astonishing is that they didn't sue the government for TRYING to put this tax. If guilty of bullshit, they shall have to at least pay an equivalent incentive on EV, for at least one year. Yeah, I know it's not how law works. Bullshit is totally legal.
What surprises me the most isn't the fact they they even passed that tax, but rather the fact that it lasted a whopping year before somebody woke up one day and realised "wait, we're not an authoritarian petrostate" and helped to convince the court to reverse it
No Australian accent says "fook". If you go rather "broad accent" bogan, it's more like "fak all". But you need the accent, because the way other people pronounce fak, is not how it sounds either... The reality is that we say it how it's spelled, but with various accents. Much like the vast majority of accents in the world. The spelling doesn't change. Writers have this problem sometimes, when they want to portray an accent by spelling words differently, but it just doesn't really work like that, because they already do pronounce each letter as it's correctly written.
@@jpbrindamour5467 Did you see Scomo comparing blood clotting from the contraceptive pill with the blood clotting from vaccination, I think he's the clot.
It is truly a highlight of their exceptionally long reel of fantastic videos. FFS Australian politicians are so corrupt and inept my blood pressure spikes just thinking of how badly they're fscking our future generations over on the environment. Speaking as a Norwegian expat of two decades.
@@jpbrindamour5467 "Mythical pandemic" guy, this isn't old testament, nor ancient greece where mythical things happen. This is 3rd decade of 21st century, and you pull out "do your research" like it puts you on moral supperiority stool even though you didn't yourself, and no, some blogging hoxxer on youtube doesn't count.
Not gonna lie I thought this was going to talk about how EVs aren’t actually as good for the environment as people think but this was still very entertaining
Same here, I was expecting an honest Ad saying how EVs are just a way for car companies to continue dominating the infrastructure of a nation while pretending to care for the environment. It doesn't change the status quo and we're still spending a lot of money and space on roads, electric car fires are also terrible and electric cars need rare earth metals, and boy you know some slave child labour is going into that. It's better for us to build cities around the concept of being car-free, and funding public transport heavily.
They came close at 2:30 with the chart showing emissions sources. They note that transport is the 3rd largest source of emissions, but somehow miss that they are encouraging the increased use of the #1 largest emissions source, electricity 🤷🏻♂️
Only reason power generation makes so much pollution is because everyone is scared of nuclear and are too cheap to want to spend on the more expensive renewable options. Doesn't help that Australia has shit tons of coal just lying around in its back yard. Though I have to agree, the extraction of rare earth metals is absolutely destroying the regions where it does happen. So EV aren't these clean machines a lot of people make them out to be. The state of the lithium triangle is enough to show that.
@@Anthony-cn8ll yesterday I tried picking up a truck battery, looked small so I didn’t think it’ll be that heavy....so anyways I almost crushed my foot and the handles dig into my skin
@@phillipsmiley5930 yes of course it was a stunt, but a fossil would either burn its clutch to cinders or overheat its torque converter before that plane ever got moving. Unimogs and airport tractors used to pull trains and planes have to be specially designed for that application just so they can survive it. A Model X can do it off the shelf. This is a dangerous time to start throwing shade at EVs. Look which way the wind is blowing; nearly everyone will be driving electric in the next ten to twenty years, so unless you're thinking of checking out in that time frame, avoid eating crow later by not swallowing oil industry propaganda now.
Soon enough he/she will be rained upon this earth through precipitation and re evaporate. This person has started the liquid person cycle. Soon this person will invent a reproductive system for liquid people with their genius. THIS IS THE FUTURE!!!
@@kirin1230 I don't think they know how electricity produced...or how gas and electricity are completely disconnected energy sources...or hydroelectric centrals... and I don't want to judge but probably he is american...why don't people at least look for things for 2 minutes before typing why?
It’s true that while electric cars are good for the environment, I’ve heard of no plans to triple the electrical grid in the next 10 years? A car uses more energy than a house, and most households own more than one car. Is solar and wind going to take up the gap in electrical needs? Probably not, they’re not competitive. So, where will the electricity come from? You do understand that electric cars need electricity? Nuclear would probably be our best bet to not make matters any worse, and meet demand, but now there are activists strongly apposing nuclear. Nuclear Fission is the next big thing! And could single handedly save the world! But it’s been 10 years away for the past 50 years. And the EU is spending $10B on research over the next 10 years. A drop in the bucket, why aren’t governments spending more to make this happen? Oil companies paying them not to? Who knows what world saving technologies big oil has squashed in the past 100 years? Like a drug dealer, they don’t care who they kill as long as they stay in business. When it comes to politicians, no matter what country, the only time they want to save the world is when they get rich doing so.
Running a functional democracy is harder than it looks. It's like a ship, with the crew running around fixing things and steering the ship to avoid rocks and blow up krakens. Ideally everyone works together and things go well, but sometimes it devolves into everyone screaming at each other and fighting over the wheel until the ship hits one too many rocks and ends up on the seafloor. I'm not surprised the U.S. isn't the only ship slipping towards the latter.
@@archdruidbookwalter951 I don’t know about Australia. But the biggest flaw in the constitution that I see is that politician can ad campaigns for themselves. Which means only the rich will reach the most amount of people. And with capitalism being our latest economic experiment. I’m this way. It turns any democracy into oligarchy. It’s not that we all are fighting over the wheel. No. Some us are just slaves stuck beneath the deck while the captains plot a course through a storm in their ignorance.
Now this is MY sence of humour. The irony, the sarcasm, the stabbing of the calculator, her almost monotonous voice and the perfectly placed swearing. Perfection. And the fact it's called ffs gets me EVERYTIME, satire or not.
I never said I agreed with the video, I just said I found it funny 😀 Like I can barely understand what you guys are saying, all I know is that this made me laugh. I'm not into politics so I don't know what a "leftists" is or a "liberal" I just said I found this funny.
Love these videos but…yeah. EV s got a long way to go and the grid isn’t ready. Ask Mike Holt (NEC expert). The precious metals and material being mined for these things aren’t exactly beneficial to the planet. And I’m in the mining industry. Good comment trucker.
Are you talking about the precious metals the gasoline industry is known to use as the primary consumer, for refining petrol ? Oh yeah, right. Thank you for the insight, Mister "the professional miner".
@@ribaldhornpipe8560 Yes those metals, among others. Im not against EV development. I said it’s got a long way to go. And the fact is Mining anything has a risk benefit ratio to the planet. Drilling and the subsequent refining of Oil as well have documented risks. Harvesting Copper and Nickel, likewise has its own risks Are you familiar with Sulfide mining?
@@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν fair enough but your previous message was solely focusing on EV production requirements while every single thing in the industry need materials. The EV are surely not the worst (even gasoline vehicles need a lot of copper) and besides, using EV with the proper power source is the only way we know to get individual transports to a step where health and climat can get preserved.
Yes. A friend of mine actually won it and now owns a battery testing company that works with all manufacturers around the world. It’s in Sacramento, CA. And could have easily been in Australia.
Cigaretes: exists Capitalists: "We'll make profit from your addiction" Government: "Time to tax you non smokers for gobbling up all that fresh air you're inhaling while not smoking"
@@cybercery5271 I'm pretty sure that you're completely INSANE because that's not even remotely true. The amount of pollutants put out by an automobile could kill you in less than an hour if you're in an enclosed area with a running engine. Someone smoking in the same area cannot kill you. Now, multiply that by millions of running engines in a lot of cities and you tell me which is worse. Whose ass did you pull your "fact" out of?
Kudos, this was one of the most stylish satirical ads I've ever seen! And smart, informative and funny too! You guys are great! Regarding the FFS (you can't make that stuff up), I never knew the Aussies were so good at shooting themselves in the foot... ;-)
Just on that point our tobacco taxes are the highest anywhere in the world and it does literally nothing to curb smoking. The tax far outweighs the medical costs associated with smokers. By about 6 times (would cite this but I'm having trouble finding the article now). On top of that there are multiple studies that show mild to moderate use of other tobacco products have virtually no risk increase over non smokers that there is no justification for the tax to apply to cigars, pipe tobacco or shisha. In fact according to data you would need to smoke 4+ cigars or 3+ bowls of pipe tobacco or 6+ hookah sessions lasting 45 minutes or more a day to have the same levels of health risks as cigarette smokers. And the amount of people who use those other forms of tobacco do not smoke anywhere near that. Most don't even smoke every day. Our government is fucked.
@@prototypep4 Cognition bias? Do you have any any credible source for this information? Also what level of risk is it acceptable for smokers to put on non smokers? Virtually none is quite different to my experience. Dose driving while on drugs with your kids in the car present virtually no risk to the kids?
@@donnairn3419 there are studies done that examine the various forms of smoking exclusive from each other. To simplify it if you measure risk as a value between zero and 1 a non smokers risks of the same diseases associated eith smoking is about 0.1, according to the studies exclusive pipe smokers for example who smoked less than 3 bowls a day had an approximate risk factor of about 0.12. It's negligible increase in risk. I mean, do we tax people for walking down the street without a respirator because car fumes can hold significantly more chances of damaging the lungs. How about sitting around a campfire? Woodfire smokes contains the same carcinogen content as tobacco and with much larger and more damaging particle size. There's no cognitive bias. These studies were done by universities and medical research teams. One of the most comprehensive ones was done by the US Surgeon General.
@@prototypep4 Some thoughts: I've met a lot of ex smokers and smokers who have cut back who cite affordability as the number one reason, so at least anecdotally it absolutely cuts back smoking. Smokers die quickly so strictly speaking from an expense perspective it's actually cheaper for the government to encourage smoking, since the lifetime medical costs wind up being lower. Efforts to curb smoking are to improve public health, not to save a few bucks on healthcare. Cigarette companies seem to really hate the government policies that aim to curb tobacco smoking. If they did nothing to reduce tobacco consumption why would the companies that profit from tobacco consumption even care?
And that appeals to your lack of disregard for not having a choice in the first place? The fact that they're pretending that you have a choice is laughable not the actual joke itself.
Even after costing us tax players 1.1 billion, (tearing up the East West link contracts) for absolutely nothing. And still the mindless public voted him in again. Dan Andrews is a megalomaniac and listens to no one. You can see the crazy power hungry look in his eyes.
@@MajorBunghole I have a feeling that rather than people voting him in, its more likely he commited voters fraud and changed the numbers on how many people voted for him.
Haha my man all the mining companies are switching to autonomous electric dump truck fleets for haulage. Loads are not the issue, but frequency of charging stations. Not to mention “how far” you can pull something will constantly be changing with new infrastructure/battery efficiency.
Well, less money going to China due them being biggest lithium processors in the world and are causing world wide dependency on them... Also EV's are not clean as pretty picture has painted. One storm taking out the grid and EV owners are royally fucked. Old diesel you can run with fucking old oil change oil if need arises and work way longer than even gasoline cars, so world should be pushed towards more diesels, specially since bio diesel can be grown easily on the Australia.
@@Hellsong89 aight, hol up China does have the largest Lithium Mine in the world but only because it has the largest deposit of lithium, theres litterally nothing we could do there aside from buying other lithium mines from around the rest of the world. As for EVs not being as clean as people say, look at the math, they are way cleaner than gasoline and diesel cars by a mile. Even through the proccessing of the batteries, the power generated theough power plants etc. They are still cleaner by a mile. As for a storm taking out the grid, it is highly unlikely to occur and it is very difficult for it to happen. Even if a storm did hit that was strong enough to ruin electric infrastructure, then you got bigger problems to deal with than a car that can still drive 300 miles. As for biofuels, the math has also shown that they are non renewable. It takes more energy to proccess and consume biofuels than it does to make, so youd be spending money on a resource that wont give you any return. On the other hand using solar cells with electric cars for the exact same reason give off more energy and are more efficient than bio fuels. Now that being said. Electric is not the end all be all best thing ever. Renewable resources like solar and wind need to be accompanied by non renewables so that they can work better. When the non renewable isnt creating energy, like at night or when theres no wind, and the energy storage system runs out, then you turn on a power plant that runs on coal or petroleum to help out. Not to mention that there are places where gasoline and diesel are better than electric. Like planes and rockets and heavy equipment. The mass to power ratio that batteries provide are to heavy for them so fuel is better there.
@@magicblaze1553 So Wendover Productions video about the "EV Charging Problem" explains a lot about whats holding EVs back... and also has links to articles and studies. Real Engineering's video on "Why Biofuels are Terrible" does a good job explaining the premise, though if you want actual articles you can check their description to find the resources they use. And though Donut Media's video, "Are Electric Vehicles REALLY better for the environment?" doesnt have any resources, it does talk about the environmental effects the cost of production of EVs and ICEs have. I know theyre not direct resources and could have a lot of interpretational error and bias, but they do link to other resources that were used that could explain it better than I can.
I swear, this channel is better than every mainstream news channels; no bullshit, no lies, no shitty crap that they churn out like the world's gonna end tomorrow. Kudos to the makers 👏 👏
I suppose you're referring to the lithium ion battery? Which would be fair...ish. lithium is not good for the environment. And electric fires are bad. It's the same with cellphones. What about the rest though? The technology needs to be produced and funded, and it won't be if there's no investment and a stubborn grip on old technology and fuels that should have been phased out 15 years ago.
@@danyul2571but there also the real problem with... car dependency, which could be fixed with many other policies. But that would put many legacy corporations, which today dominate capital on the brink of collapse. Which is no-no. And bunch of other problems. Battery recycling. Lithium is finite. And while we could build more buses, trains, metro and trolleys, we tend to fix our vision on "how to keep people dependent on cars, even if it's electric, it's still worsen our lives". Not even mentioning problems with infrastructure, absolute lack of possibility to own an ev living in apartment building etc.
@@karendarrenmclarenI agree with you, and of course there are growing pains when adjusting to a "new" technology, these are all things that realistically should have been worked out years ago. It's more a case of "we have the technology, we have the resources. We just don't have the funding." EV's are by no means a perfect solution the way they currently operate but there are alternatives to lithium it's just a matter of safely incorporating them. Public transport is also something that needs to be given more attention.
@Max St Arlyn It isn't because it can't produce the chips etc they need. When Tesla set up in China they will need a Chinese partner company and thst is when the big technology exchange will happen whether Tesla like it or not.
@Max St Arlyn So As a 3 year old Wumao account with one subscriber who is probably some sort of supervisor you really think I'm going to velieve that your Chinese electric cars are so great. Okay I'll humour you. Name me one that you've been looking at for years and why you've not bought it? Also explain to me how your EVs are going to work without Australian coal to keep the power flowing and the lights on? Do you supply the hamsters and the wheel or are they extras?
She is absolutely amazing! But I'm no Australian. So this doesn't count, I guess... And I really feel pity for the Australians to presumably have the most shitty government in terms of renewables and EV adoption. We here in Germany only have a shitty government in terms of renewables. Since we all here love cars, the EV adoption goes reasonably well...
In my country hydro wind solar nuclear and gaz because we stopped our advanced nuclear sector development program despite this late mistake an EV is quickly beneficial regarding carbon dioxide in comparison with ICE.
Well if you want to be depressed again EV is not a solution either if the current production of lithium was entirely dedicated to EV cars we could only build 10 millions of cars each year, and no laptop or phones or Electric trucks and anything else that need Li-ION batteries. EV alone are not the solution, what is probably probably best course of action is making our societies less car dependant.
@@benjaminparent4115 Lithium is one of the most abundant minerals in the universe, and our current proven reserves are enough to continue building batteries and EV's at 2021 rate for 350 years. The amount of actual Lithium per battery is coming down rapidly, and solid state batteries cut it down vastly. By the time we're even close to running low, we'll already be mining asteroids.
Well about 82% of my electricity consumption at home is met by the solar panels on my house, with around 90% of total solar production currently being exported to the grid, such is the excess capacity of my rooftop solar system. That certainly has a magical feeling about it and such excess production will keep my soon to be acquired EV easily charged and topped up for next to no cost. Just the kind of magic I like! One of my friends already has an EV and solar panels and it's the same situation. Magic, magic, magic everywhere. LOL.
@user-ur1qo4fp1f You are absolutely correct. While this might work perfect if you reside along the Equator, not so well in higher latitudes. Joke Biden says that everyone should buy an electric car. No need for oil & gas since you just plug it in. What seemed to have slipped his mind, besides most everything he does, is that in many U.S. States, there is very little sunshine for many months of the year. So do we all get to stay home and get a paycheck for him or walk to work? If he doesn't want fossil fuels, or nukes, exactly where does he expect the power to the plug to come from? It's absurd. Yes EV's should be considered, but the piss poor electric grid in this Country is in shambles. Just ask Texas when the winter comes and the entire system goes to shit. 20% below zero, "I don't feel a thing, nice and warm here in the White House"! F.U. Biden.
@@BrentonSmythesfieldsayeLucky you. One to have a driveway so you can charge your car at home and two have enough sunshine to generate that much electricity. Here in the U.K. 50% of the U.K. have no drive ways and our beautiful weather will generate around 30% of my electricity for 8 months of the year.
@@davemorris6747 Indeed. I wasn't trying to pee down your back and tell you it was raining. I fully understand it is not a perfect world for everyone on every ocassion. But it still is essentially early days and we are talking about systemic change, not just changes in transport. Some of the nuance is going to take somewhat longer to sort through, but it will eventually happen, if not fast enough. All the best.
In the US it used to be harder about ten years ago because all of the available EV models were way more expensive than their standard counterparts but yeah there was never an additional tax, thats crazy
Let me tell you about the motorcycle "safety levy"... Another fun tax :-) Funding such improvements as huge rollouts of wire rope barriers with no added protection for motorcyclists and the occasional sign warning of twisty roads!
@@coopsnz1, You know taxes have nothing to do with Socialism. The video said that a Social Democracy country like Norway literally decreases taxes for electric cars show that you know nothing about Socialism and you don't actually watch the video.
Themselves? Not at all.. We're talking about overpaid politicians they're either too rich to ever be affected by climate change, or they'll be dead before it truly has an effect. They're actually just evil.
@@r0ninx3phonline How funny you say this , you did not think about the renewable companies and investors are getting rich in selling fake climate change by sending lobbyist to politicians and others and pay money to companies ( non profits groups) to go and tell people and media and use facebook and Twitters about renewable energies (selling thousands solar panels ) is the answers and all about to make money and become rich themselves. So it is not overpaid politicians but overpaid and getting rich in big bonuses by renewable energies companies CEOs and executives.
@@miike111 Ah yes, the evil renewable lobbyists. Robbing from the do gooder fossil fuel industry. Thank you, you have opened my eyes to the truth random commenter on TH-cam. I see your linked sources are are as rock solid as your logic based argument.
That's because she's got no idea what she is talking about and everything she is proposing is pure fantasy unless you're prepared to bankrupt the nation.
Quick question though...where does all the power come from to recharge these bad boys when turning on an air conditioner in the summer can cause rolling blackouts? Would that be oil gas and nuclear power recharging those green friendly vehicles that use children to mine cobalt for them? (That's still green though right?)
I'm Canadian but the one thing that I'll always remember about the Australian Government is "Have the world biggest banana, have the world biggest prawn".
@@RobFeldkamp yup and so am I. Freaking brilliant commercial! Why Rob are so in favor of being dependent on foreign oil? Love to hear your answer on that.
@@Hexagonian ironically my parents, sent me to learn english,but they don't bother learning themselves,ah I have such a great parents, sometimes I cursed in finnish language
@@darkshadowsx5949 Not exactly true. It would be nice to have federal dollars and policies that would prevent 20 states (like my state of Wisconsin charges a penalty of $100 for buying an EV) from road taxing and charging penalties for buying and driving EVs,
we kinda need one......one where we vote for people who do the right thing, or we shoot them.....and/or we can just shoot the existing and then overhaul the entire Westminster system to a more logical modern one....not something was based on the Jurassic period.
I can see them using the same tax argument in the UK using the excuse that EVs are heavier and so cause more wear and tear on the roads, and the emissions of particulates from the tyres are higher as well.
American here, and honestly was suprised that we were included in one of the points about doing something better than [insert other English-speaking country here].
"EVs can't tow a boat..." *footage of an EV towing a plane* made me laugh so fucking much i'm convinced politicians think of people as mindless toddlers if they think such blatant misinformation is going to wor- *it works* oh.
Ev's can totally tow them, towing something is mostly dependend on torque and ev's have a lot of that. No what people mean when they say ev's cant be really ised to tow stuff is that their range drops massively when towing something heavy. So much that if you would need to drive 200km with your car to the coast to use your ship you would need to charge your ev there while driving the boat to come back.
Somebody might need to go and explain to them that trains use electric traction motors, and they're all over the world doing a fine job of moving massive loads.
if by "nailed it", you mean they got everything wrong. then yeah they nailed it..... they are excluding all that actual facts about how destructive Electric Vehicles are to the enviroment compared to fossil fuel vehicles. This video is 100% pure bullshit propaganda that is avoiding the science and facts.
@@orion7741 No, I mean they got (almost) everything right. One thing to note however, is that they showed a graph in which transport was the third(?) biggest polluter -- but you'll notice that the *BIGGEST* polluter was electricity generation. LOL... so moving the transport fleet to EVs won't actually change anything in that respect... in fact, it might even make it far worse, given how much of Australia's electricity comes from *COAL*. Other than that it's all good.
@@xjet Actually Bruce there have been studies that show charging EVs on even the dirtiest electricity (like Victoria's) still has far lower overall emissions than fossil fuel cars. And that doesn't take into account the fairly rapid "greening" of the electricity grid as more and more renewables come online and coal fired power stations close, even in Australia.
@@pangit9999 You're right and I'm a huge proponent of EVs, I just thought the graph was perhaps a little counter-intuitive if you're promoting EVs as a lower-polution option. Speaking of the greening of the grid in Australia, what's with the proposal to actually charge people with solar for their infeed to the grid? How crazy is that?
I'm not so sure if Lithium Battery based EVs are really the solution to the pollution problem, but Australia has some of the richest Lithium reserves of the world. I wonder, why they aren't producing EVs on a large scale. But okay, I get some of it now 😥
USA also has huge lithium reserves. Enough already for the next 100 years. Sodium batteries are already available too, and there's no shortage of salt in the world!
EV is equivalent of 10 homes in terms or electricity grid power and it is not paing for roads. It is reasonable to make their owner pay at least in part for it.
@@АлексейПлакхин I don't think you've ever heard of the word "fungible". All tax dollars go to the same pool regardless of the source of the tax dollars.
@@GeorgeMonet, let me clarify my point. EV require a lot of energy, which may lead to shortages of energy without goverment intervention. It would be reasonable if the owners of EV pay for them.
Alas, in some countries satire and self-deprecating wit is banned for being 'unpatriotic' and for "Tarnishing the image of our great nation which only Gaard may criticise". In some countries, these fine people would (literally) be shot by wild-eyed zealots for encouraging foreigners and communists to laugh at their elected government's incompetence and at their own stupidity for putting them in power. 😞
it definitely needs to be in india. i really want to see sarcastic honest government ads on modi government and even congress because our government is the clear definition of 'fu** you people because we gonna warm our pockets'
If one grows enough balls in the Philippines to start such a channel, you bet your ass they would be shut down by the government fast. Especially when they inevitably brush hairs with a cult called Iglesia ni Cristo, who somehow has a deathgrip on politicians' balls.
When the government calls their policy FFS, it does make it harder to make something recognisably a parody... Even the most ridiculous things can be true these days.
An important thing to note here is that EVs are not a real solution to the problems (Because they require rare earths (the mining of which heavily pollutes the environment), the process of producing them also releases a lot of CO2, etc.) with cars (just a start to solving the problem) and cars in general are extremely inefficient, in contrast to public transport, which should be promoted more instead. My point is: Supporting EVs is a start, but it deals more with Symptoms and less with the real problem, which is Cars in general.
We have been ruined by decades of social engineering by the conservative parties and right-wing media, much like in US. people vote against their own interests, unwittingly, they are uneducated and stupid they fall for the idea that the conservatives are "on their side" we know this is a lie. The conservative cares only for his wealthy paymasters and the aristocracy. Our environment is in ruin, air quality declining, cost of living ever increasing. Thanks to conservative ideology and the lie they're for the common man.
@@jonnyjonny2926 I mean there are eco fas ists if that's your kind of thing. You see for me both the right and the left are the two sides of the same coin. Both pretend to be in the people's favour yet neither is. We saw how well both right wing and left wing countries performed and in both cases populism is everywhere and no one really cares about either the people or the environment. It's just a façade to pretend that you care to get votes. So take your bias out of here because it is just that. A biased world view. Progressivism isn't negative but conservatism isn't as well. Every country has its special needs so demonising either of the two because of our personal experiences and beliefs is wrong. K?
@@d-phoenix2198 Αν έχει παρακολουθήσει καθόλου το κανάλι θα έχεις δει ότι η συντηρητική δεξιά το μόνο που νοιάζεται ένα να αυξάνει τα κέρδη των πολύ εκατομμυριούχων και αυτή είναι μία τάση που δεν παρατηρείται μόνο στην Αυστραλία , αλλά και στα υπόλοιπα μέρη του κόσμου . Για αυτό σταμάτα να μας κάνεις τον έξυπνο και ενημέρωσε τον εαυτό σου .
Elon is just another greedy corporate overlord, he doesn't give two shits about helping the planet. If he did he wouldn't be investing in an climate solutions for the rich and providing literally nothing for the other 90%. EV's are a great start, but Elon Musk sees this as a business model, not a good deed from his own heart
FFS I love the Australian satire. Freedom of speech will continue via comedy otherwise will no longer exist. Love you guys.. Watched your craziness for years.
Worth noting, we don't technically have freedom of speech here in Australia. No constitutional right to it, and no explicit legal right. We mostly seem to manage alright though, except that truth isn't actually a legal defence against a defamation suit.
Yeah, nah. Freedom of speech isn't under threat if you're a Lefty fuckwit. These chicks won't have the feminazis, twitterati, lamestream media, or woke mob hounding for their cancellation and proverbial (or literal) heads on a platter. And let's face it, there's zero fucking chance of a Right wing government ever trying to push back against this sort of shit.
Yeah I'm from the US, and I wasn't expecting all this to happen in Australia. Sometimes, it feels like every other country is peaceful with no problems whatsoever, compared to America. 😅
@@youknowhoo3 well America has the petfect combination of not being close to any other country while being wide and with enough population to ensure that there always is something wrong, so that explains it. Here in Europe we're all bunched up on each other, meaning we _have to_ know a bit more of what's happening outside our borders
Humans are funny like that. We've been doing this shit since before we were even Sapient- we have it in us to do better in this day and age of potential (reasonable) abundance for every member of our species, but monkey brain gonna do what monkey brain gonna do. It's infuriating.
I know nobody wants to be poor, but once you've got more than enough surely you can afford to pay a fair share of tax and stop screwing over the workers?
If people get tax breaks for buying a car for "helping the environment", then people that take public transportation, bike, or walk should receive a government payout each week.
Definition "A Government Payout". Money that Government has stolen from productive citizens by force only to be redistributed to someone else whilst incuring a substantial administrative overhead in the Governments favour in the process.
Sorry but our public transport is already heavily funded by public money. The tiny EV incentives that is even possible to inact is a tiny fraction of similar incentives for Public Transport. We NEED BOTH just at a much smaller scale for BEVs.
@@Deontjie LIES! The same lies were said when Long Range BEVs only $100,000. Now the long range BEVs are $50,000 rinse repeat the same propaganda. Soon it'll be $30,000 and the same lies will be still be used. It's propaganda to brainwash people to not learn the simple fact of Economies of Scale . FYI The average Aus new car price is $40,000.
Sounds like our Aussie neighbours have actually had a proper look into the EV mass hysteria and have looked just a little ahead to find it won't be all rainbows and roses...
@@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye Maybe you are not smart enough to understand that there is no future with EV. You have to think to understand that. But i can understand that thinking might be painful for you and i wouldn't like you to get hurt.
Politicians act like politicians so often that I think maybe their only concern is to maintain personal, family and party wealth and power. Like a Scumbag would.
Well, yes... your environment in a large part determines your behaviour and the direction of your personal growth. Expecting politicians to not act like politicians is like expecting bakers to not act like bakers. In the case of bakers it is harmless, but in the case of politicians we need to take them out of politics after a handful years, to protect them from becoming too much like politicians. I think we should treat power like we treat radiation: There's a life time limit on how much exposure radiation-heavy jobs allow.
politicians are holding us back SEVERELY. i'm not even kidding, if they did their job and only their job, we'd be easily where we MIGHT be 500 years in the future now.
@@GraveUypo More specifically "profit" holds us back. A light bulb that's still going today was made in 1901 but that tech is not profitable. We have the ability "now" to create machines that will never fail. NOT PROFITABLE! Needs to stop now, our technology is our evolution and we as a species are being held back!
@@waylandsmith235 nah that light bulb is just an incandescent bulb running at very low wattage constantly, so there's no thermal stress at all. there's nothing special about it. yeah planned obsolesce is a thing (i know why you brought that bulb up), but that is DEFINITIVELY not what is holding us back the most. it's government corruption. because if that wasn't a thing, private corruption wouldn't get a pass either.
@Ben Dover We didn’t get rid of trumpism, if anything it’s stronger than ever, and we have some bat shit crazy representatives that believe in some of the craziest conspiracies. We will see over the next 4-6 years 🤞🏼
The way I understand it Australia is uniquely suited to supply all its citizens with clean electric energy but it also has a shitload of fossil fuels that are profitable to extract. So ideal breeding ground for a conflict of epic proportions between progress and legacy industry Luddism.
@@kariusbaktus76 There's probably a culture in Norway of having to live off the land and within one's means, long before the North Sea oil was discovered, which was like, in the 1980s. Whereas places like Australia and America are traditionally frontier countries, where people went in search of abundant resources -- where the idea of making it was more tied to the dream of winning the prospecting lottery. I guess Australia is ideologically more somewhere in between America and Norway, considering energy ideology, which is why the conflict is the most interesting there. And, of course, the population density is rather low, meaning there is both a massive amount of renewable energy to be had per inhabitant, but also a lot of fossil fuel profits. So a lot of money in either venture for not all that many people, compared to the US or China -- which are roughly the same geographic size as Australia, but just a little bit more populous.
@@picoallen Well, there's a lot of coal and natural gas, so my guess is the extraction industry of those resources feels threatened. There is some oil. If you get a lot of electric cars then you get a lot of battery infrastructure, meaning the batteries can be used for other stuff as well, such as storing intermittent renewable energy, rendering coal and gas power plants obsolete. And if you create demand for electric cars that means they're going to make more over in China to export to Australia, meaning they might become independent from Australian coal imports sooner over there as well. Of course Australia has a lot of other stuff they can export for the new industries, such as lithium, nickel, copper, and aluminum. But my guess is, there's a lot of money invested in the fossil fuel mining boom of the last 15 years or so, and who wants to leave that gravy train who's currently on it, hopefully to catch another one? Ultimately they're just going to delay the inevitable, but a few more years of preventing the switch to renewables means a few more years of profit and a few more years that the new industries aren't more financially and politically powerful than the old ones. Their Luddism is self-servingly rational.
Hi friends, here’s our latest Honest Government Ad - featuring extra-long calculator action by popular demand. This one's about our Govt’s EV “policy” aka “The Future Fuels Strategy”, aka FFS. And no that’s not satire, it’s what they really called it… presumably in an attempt to put satirists out of work 😤 I had to also make a special mention of the Victorian State Govt (which I think normally does a lot of good things) given their decision to introduce a tax on EVs. Victoria will be voting on the EV tax in early May so if you want to let them know how you feel about it, here's a petitioon that will be hand-delivered to crossbench MPs ahead of the vote. Please add your name: nb.tai.org.au/dump_ev_tax
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the Federal Australian government put a "luxury vehicle tax" for most electric cars?
feelsbadman when the australia institute is actually suggesting a positive change for once... makes me think there's more to it than just a tax on ev's 😅😅
Lets discuss. Lets not beat around the bush. Legislation by the Vic gov is definitely a tax, but not on electric cars per se. It's more or less a continuation of the fuel excise - the tax you pay on petrol, diesel and LPG. Which is meant to bring in revenue for the federal government to put back into roads - but that's a whole other can of worms. In Victoria the average driver will travel ~13000km/year and pay an average of ~4-4.5 cents/km in fuel excise tax = ~$585/year in fuel excise tax.
You're obviously not buying traditional fuel to power your fully electric, other zero emission vehicle or hydrogen vehicle so you would otherwise never pay this fuel excise tax and is lost revenue for the federal government to allegedly spend on road infrastructure.
[EDIT: Assuming this passes] Introducing the "ZLEV Road-user charge!" - is the replacement of the fuel excise tax. Depending on how far you drive you might benefit from this new charge. Fully electric, other zero emission vehicles or hydrogen vehicles in Victoria get $100 discount on registration and basically only-pay-for-what-you-use in km/year at a rate of 2.5 cents/km. So, Mr. Average driving 13000km/year will pay ~$325 in this new road charge tax compared to the ~$585 in fuel excise tax.
I think this is a good deal *IN GENERAL* and seems to solve a problem the government had loosing revenue. But, I assume, like many of the people here, would like to see more incentives and a *real push* from our governments to accelerate our transition to sustainable energy and create opportunity for business. It's fucking pitiful our governments are staring tiny pieces of the puzzle solving insignificant problems when it's so obvious to everyone else not in government that foregoing a small amount of revenue is such an easy cost/benefit comparison that when we zoom the fuck out we can see removing pollution alone [see video above] increases our health, IQ, kids' potential etc.
This is what people should be upset about. The tax means nothing. Our governments aren't *DOING* enough. Haven't been *DOING* enough. And Australian citizens are fucking peeved about it. We expect more done. We want more done. We deserve more done. We need new solutions not a copy paste of an old solution.
@@vitorreis9094 Personally, I'm not seeing any reason to tax electric vehicles. It would stunt any good momentum for sustainable energy in general, let alone EV adoption. If the federal government needed extra cash for roads I'm sure they'd find it in the hundreds of millions they've pulled from public health over the years. And I agree the Libs are turning every sector of the economy into the shitfuckery that is the NBN
@@xtramoist9999 Fuel excise has not paid for roads since 1959. This is mentioned in the video.
The way she stabs that poor calculator gets me every time
2:03
F*ck all! 😅
Yeah...
it reminds me of my mum playing solitaire on her tablet
@@fuzzjunky haha
"They're even linked to lower IQ, which explains why you keep reelecting us."
LOL
The magic of fake democracy, if it was a dictatorship they would have been defenestrated already. Make the people feel the politicians are their own fault is such a clever head fake.
That explains Trump supporters.
@@dianerose8316 sadly most supporters..
So true.
@@dianerose8316 That explain about you not really bright in what you said. You should know they are left wing in the video you watch and they do
not tell the truth and lie what they say.
I remember watching this video when it came out. Fun fact for anyone that doesn't know, but Victoria did put through the EV tax which lasted one year before a court ruling said it was unconstitutional :) Anyone who did pay a tax on their EV got a refund.
What is astonishing is that they didn't sue the government for TRYING to put this tax.
If guilty of bullshit, they shall have to at least pay an equivalent incentive on EV, for at least one year.
Yeah, I know it's not how law works.
Bullshit is totally legal.
Bonkers. Our governments are literally, factually, criminals.
lol
What surprises me the most isn't the fact they they even passed that tax, but rather the fact that it lasted a whopping year before somebody woke up one day and realised "wait, we're not an authoritarian petrostate" and helped to convince the court to reverse it
RAHHHH, DEMOCRACY RESTORED
I *NEVER* get tired of the calculator "Fook all" part.
Right!😂🤣
No Australian accent says "fook".
If you go rather "broad accent" bogan, it's more like "fak all".
But you need the accent, because the way other people pronounce fak, is not how it sounds either...
The reality is that we say it how it's spelled, but with various accents. Much like the vast majority of accents in the world. The spelling doesn't change.
Writers have this problem sometimes, when they want to portray an accent by spelling words differently, but it just doesn't really work like that, because they already do pronounce each letter as it's correctly written.
2:04
That's adorable, like a dog turned into a pretty lady and is trying to explain something but doesn't get calculators yet.
That damm calculator sound and “fuck all” is LIFE🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha. Slap slap slap - &$@? ALL!
I do that with my colleagues at work now.
If one day, this channel decides to do a brazilian version, they would have to do a two hour long movie
We're working on it
@@thejuicemedia Thx! Im rlly looking forward to a video dissing out my country's shitfuckery
Or a Philippine version
Daily.
@@thejuicemedia please please we need it so much, our bullshit is like Austrailia's but a million times worse
"In Australia, we haven't even reached 1%. A bit like our vaccine rollout! FFS"
bro im rolling on the floor lmao
Please do your research before getting the jab for a mythical pandemic.
@@jpbrindamour5467 Did you see Scomo comparing blood clotting from the contraceptive pill with the blood clotting from vaccination, I think he's the clot.
It is truly a highlight of their exceptionally long reel of fantastic videos. FFS Australian politicians are so corrupt and inept my blood pressure spikes just thinking of how badly they're fscking our future generations over on the environment.
Speaking as a Norwegian expat of two decades.
@@jpbrindamour5467 mythical pandemic?, tell that to my professor who passed out yesterday from COVID.
@@jpbrindamour5467 "Mythical pandemic" guy, this isn't old testament, nor ancient greece where mythical things happen. This is 3rd decade of 21st century, and you pull out "do your research" like it puts you on moral supperiority stool even though you didn't yourself, and no, some blogging hoxxer on youtube doesn't count.
Not gonna lie I thought this was going to talk about how EVs aren’t actually as good for the environment as people think but this was still very entertaining
Same here, I was expecting an honest Ad saying how EVs are just a way for car companies to continue dominating the infrastructure of a nation while pretending to care for the environment. It doesn't change the status quo and we're still spending a lot of money and space on roads, electric car fires are also terrible and electric cars need rare earth metals, and boy you know some slave child labour is going into that. It's better for us to build cities around the concept of being car-free, and funding public transport heavily.
They came close at 2:30 with the chart showing emissions sources. They note that transport is the 3rd largest source of emissions, but somehow miss that they are encouraging the increased use of the #1 largest emissions source, electricity 🤷🏻♂️
Only reason power generation makes so much pollution is because everyone is scared of nuclear and are too cheap to want to spend on the more expensive renewable options. Doesn't help that Australia has shit tons of coal just lying around in its back yard.
Though I have to agree, the extraction of rare earth metals is absolutely destroying the regions where it does happen. So EV aren't these clean machines a lot of people make them out to be. The state of the lithium triangle is enough to show that.
@@ibraheemshuaib8954 Another thing to add is that heavier electric vehicles cause exponentially worse damage to highways.
@@Anthony-cn8ll yesterday I tried picking up a truck battery, looked small so I didn’t think it’ll be that heavy....so anyways I almost crushed my foot and the handles dig into my skin
It's literally called *FFS*, at this point the Government is doing a fine job satirising itself XD
pyne's whatsapp group used it to great effect so someone decided to reuse it
@@magellanthecat Probably means For Fuck's Sake. Not sure though.
It's the Department of Genuine Satire who named it.
hahahah I destroy satire with satire
The Australian Government is trolling the citizens brilliantly
I love how she slowly escalated about the EVs just towing a boat to a goddamn jetliner
Envio-mentalist stunt, how far do you think an EV can tow a jetliner before the batteries go flat
@@phillipsmiley5930 as long if not longer than an equivalent diesel car
Did you grow up in a slum?
@@phillipsmiley5930 yes of course it was a stunt, but a fossil would either burn its clutch to cinders or overheat its torque converter before that plane ever got moving. Unimogs and airport tractors used to pull trains and planes have to be specially designed for that application just so they can survive it. A Model X can do it off the shelf.
This is a dangerous time to start throwing shade at EVs. Look which way the wind is blowing; nearly everyone will be driving electric in the next ten to twenty years, so unless you're thinking of checking out in that time frame, avoid eating crow later by not swallowing oil industry propaganda now.
@@LocalRapid You are fucking clueless if you actually believe that.
2:22
"They're even linked to lower IQ which might explain why you keep re-electing us."
I evaporated😂😭
‘FFS’
Not even Australian, but god damn that made me laugh so hard.
Just like the water coming out of Hydrogen powered cars! Embrace fuel cells!
Soon enough he/she will be rained upon this earth through precipitation and re evaporate. This person has started the liquid person cycle. Soon this person will invent a reproductive system for liquid people with their genius. THIS IS THE FUTURE!!!
LMAO
The way in which they swear and insult people so smoothly is literal art
@Blesava Konjina ... you REALLY don't understand how any of these works do you?
@@berilsevvalbekret772 They clearly do not.... At all.
@Blesava Konjina Wow, way to think outside the box! Keep living with your head in the sand, you'll go really far.
@@kirin1230 I don't think they know how electricity produced...or how gas and electricity are completely disconnected energy sources...or hydroelectric centrals... and I don't want to judge but probably he is american...why don't people at least look for things for 2 minutes before typing why?
It’s true that while electric cars are good for the environment, I’ve heard of no plans to triple the electrical grid in the next 10 years? A car uses more energy than a house, and most households own more than one car. Is solar and wind going to take up the gap in electrical needs? Probably not, they’re not competitive. So, where will the electricity come from? You do understand that electric cars need electricity? Nuclear would probably be our best bet to not make matters any worse, and meet demand, but now there are activists strongly apposing nuclear. Nuclear Fission is the next big thing! And could single handedly save the world! But it’s been 10 years away for the past 50 years. And the EU is spending $10B on research over the next 10 years. A drop in the bucket, why aren’t governments spending more to make this happen? Oil companies paying them not to? Who knows what world saving technologies big oil has squashed in the past 100 years? Like a drug dealer, they don’t care who they kill as long as they stay in business. When it comes to politicians, no matter what country, the only time they want to save the world is when they get rich doing so.
As a Canadian that stumbled upon these. You guys are amazing and hilarious.
After watching the Honest Government Ad of your own government, do you still think so?
@@vladdracul5072 As another Canadian who just stumbled on these, the honest Canadian ad makes me love these even more!
@@brandonwoodward4757 The Honest Government Ad for Canada was the one that I accidentally stumbled upon and made me subscribe to this channel.
@@vladdracul5072honestly that just made it that much better. We can take a joke. Like our current PM.
*cursing with a straight face*
me: "is it possible to learn this power?"
Yes... I'm learning it I'm almost a master :)
@@jvmeel7454 me too!
Not from a jedi
I've already mastered it
Be Australian
I thought the US government was a joke. But damn, Australia, that’s pretty impressive. In a very sad way.
Running a functional democracy is harder than it looks. It's like a ship, with the crew running around fixing things and steering the ship to avoid rocks and blow up krakens. Ideally everyone works together and things go well, but sometimes it devolves into everyone screaming at each other and fighting over the wheel until the ship hits one too many rocks and ends up on the seafloor. I'm not surprised the U.S. isn't the only ship slipping towards the latter.
@@archdruidbookwalter951 I don’t know about Australia. But the biggest flaw in the constitution that I see is that politician can ad campaigns for themselves. Which means only the rich will reach the most amount of people. And with capitalism being our latest economic experiment. I’m this way. It turns any democracy into oligarchy.
It’s not that we all are fighting over the wheel. No. Some us are just slaves stuck beneath the deck while the captains plot a course through a storm in their ignorance.
The English Speaking World really really really needs to quit challenging each other to hold their beer.
@@pharmesq yet everyone still wants to move here
@@archdruidbookwalter951 Or one person grabbing it and destroying the ship whilse getting all the treasures
(Poland PIS and Catholic church)
Now this is MY sence of humour.
The irony, the sarcasm, the stabbing of the calculator, her almost monotonous voice and the perfectly placed swearing.
Perfection.
And the fact it's called ffs gets me EVERYTIME, satire or not.
Perfectly spoken, choreographed Governmentese!👮♂️👺🎯🌊👀
Same!
@Blesava Konjina it's ok for the liberal idiots to pollution in a different way as long as they don't know how they're doing it...
I never said I agreed with the video, I just said I found it funny 😀
Like I can barely understand what you guys are saying, all I know is that this made me laugh. I'm not into politics so I don't know what a "leftists" is or a "liberal"
I just said I found this funny.
@@randomaccount1840 of course it's funny. It appeals to your ignorance. It's just safe enough to not be on the deletion radar.
Meanwhile last week in the U.S. thousands of EVs were stranded when the cold sapped their batteries and caused the chargers to stop working.
Love these videos but…yeah. EV s got a long way to go and the grid isn’t ready. Ask Mike Holt (NEC expert). The precious metals and material being mined for these things aren’t exactly beneficial to the planet. And I’m in the mining industry.
Good comment trucker.
Are you talking about the precious metals the gasoline industry is known to use as the primary consumer, for refining petrol ? Oh yeah, right. Thank you for the insight, Mister "the professional miner".
@@ribaldhornpipe8560 Yes those metals, among others. Im not against EV development. I said it’s got a long way to go. And the fact is Mining anything has a risk benefit ratio to the planet. Drilling and the subsequent refining of Oil as well have documented risks. Harvesting Copper and Nickel, likewise has its own risks Are you familiar with Sulfide mining?
@@ΕλέησονΑμαρτωλόν fair enough but your previous message was solely focusing on EV production requirements while every single thing in the industry need materials. The EV are surely not the worst (even gasoline vehicles need a lot of copper) and besides, using EV with the proper power source is the only way we know to get individual transports to a step where health and climat can get preserved.
@@ribaldhornpipe8560 absolutely. An EV properly produced, powered and implemented in the right application would be an answer.
This is so ironic considering Australia held one of the most interesting electric vehicle endurance races out there.
Yes. A friend of mine actually won it and now owns a battery testing company that works with all manufacturers around the world. It’s in Sacramento, CA. And could have easily been in Australia.
@@funnlivinit Another missed opportunity for this country.
I actually took part in 2015
edit: which makes me really surprised at this
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FFS !
Cigaretes: exists
Capitalists: "We'll make profit from your addiction"
Government: "Time to tax you non smokers for gobbling up all that fresh air you're inhaling while not smoking"
Lol even capitalists are better than politicians. At least you have a choice not to buy cigarettes. (Not saying they don't cooperate with gov)
Pretty sure passive smoking is more harmful, like staying near a person who smokes.
@@cybercery5271 I'm pretty sure that you're completely INSANE because that's not even remotely true. The amount of pollutants put out by an automobile could kill you in less than an hour if you're in an enclosed area with a running engine. Someone smoking in the same area cannot kill you. Now, multiply that by millions of running engines in a lot of cities and you tell me which is worse. Whose ass did you pull your "fact" out of?
@@AvroBellow Google passive smoking
@@AvroBellow I meant breathing the same air as a person who smokes, it's a real fact
i love the "approximately *calculator mashing*, Fuck all!"
I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favourite calculator on the internet
I wonder how she managed to get zero
@@mukundthorat5672 she must have hit the AC button at some point
This is so Stephen Colbert, I love it :-D
@@mukundthorat5672 it's the magic of video editing :-D
Kudos, this was one of the most stylish satirical ads I've ever seen! And smart, informative and funny too! You guys are great!
Regarding the FFS (you can't make that stuff up), I never knew the Aussies were so good at shooting themselves in the foot... ;-)
There is no such thing as a climate "activist," nor a climate "alarmist." They are all climate TERRORISTS.
“They are even linked to lower IQ which might explain why you keep re-electing us” Lmfao🤣
its funny because its true 😳
Literally sums up pretty much a majority of the nations
That's Victoria and Queensland.
I really laughed at this part.
"an extra tax on EV's is like taxing an ex-smoker for no longer paying their tax on cigarettes..."
Just on that point our tobacco taxes are the highest anywhere in the world and it does literally nothing to curb smoking. The tax far outweighs the medical costs associated with smokers. By about 6 times (would cite this but I'm having trouble finding the article now). On top of that there are multiple studies that show mild to moderate use of other tobacco products have virtually no risk increase over non smokers that there is no justification for the tax to apply to cigars, pipe tobacco or shisha. In fact according to data you would need to smoke 4+ cigars or 3+ bowls of pipe tobacco or 6+ hookah sessions lasting 45 minutes or more a day to have the same levels of health risks as cigarette smokers. And the amount of people who use those other forms of tobacco do not smoke anywhere near that. Most don't even smoke every day. Our government is fucked.
@@prototypep4 Cognition bias?
Do you have any any credible source for this information?
Also what level of risk is it acceptable for smokers to put on non smokers?
Virtually none is quite different to my experience.
Dose driving while on drugs with your kids in the car present virtually no risk to the kids?
@@donnairn3419 there are studies done that examine the various forms of smoking exclusive from each other. To simplify it if you measure risk as a value between zero and 1 a non smokers risks of the same diseases associated eith smoking is about 0.1, according to the studies exclusive pipe smokers for example who smoked less than 3 bowls a day had an approximate risk factor of about 0.12. It's negligible increase in risk. I mean, do we tax people for walking down the street without a respirator because car fumes can hold significantly more chances of damaging the lungs. How about sitting around a campfire? Woodfire smokes contains the same carcinogen content as tobacco and with much larger and more damaging particle size. There's no cognitive bias. These studies were done by universities and medical research teams. One of the most comprehensive ones was done by the US Surgeon General.
@Ben Dover i'm a pipe and cigar smoker yes, I smoke less than once per week. I am well aware of the facts.
@@prototypep4 Some thoughts:
I've met a lot of ex smokers and smokers who have cut back who cite affordability as the number one reason, so at least anecdotally it absolutely cuts back smoking.
Smokers die quickly so strictly speaking from an expense perspective it's actually cheaper for the government to encourage smoking, since the lifetime medical costs wind up being lower. Efforts to curb smoking are to improve public health, not to save a few bucks on healthcare.
Cigarette companies seem to really hate the government policies that aim to curb tobacco smoking. If they did nothing to reduce tobacco consumption why would the companies that profit from tobacco consumption even care?
„But hey, our bullshit helped us win the last election“ Hell, that got me
andd the calculator murdering is a work of art
And that appeals to your lack of disregard for not having a choice in the first place? The fact that they're pretending that you have a choice is laughable not the actual joke itself.
@@generaleerelativity9524 Murdock Rules champ.
Even after costing us tax players 1.1 billion, (tearing up the East West link contracts) for absolutely nothing. And still the mindless public voted him in again. Dan Andrews is a megalomaniac and listens to no one. You can see the crazy power hungry look in his eyes.
@@MajorBunghole I have a feeling that rather than people voting him in, its more likely he commited voters fraud and changed the numbers on how many people voted for him.
@@user-tq9sg6lv6q oof. He may be a dick but he ain't no Trump 🤐
You notice they didn't tell you how far you could pull that boat or train. Range plunges when loads are added
Haha my man all the mining companies are switching to autonomous electric dump truck fleets for haulage. Loads are not the issue, but frequency of charging stations. Not to mention “how far” you can pull something will constantly be changing with new infrastructure/battery efficiency.
Sure they are@hittman1412
“They’re even linked to lower IQs which might explain why you keep electing us”
😂😂
Lol that got me 😂😂
burrrrnn. 😂
LMAO
I know an LNP voter that believes Ancient Aliens.
@@thuranz2773 your mom?
"Our EV policy will afford us" *stabs calculator then smiles "Fuck all"
Well, less money going to China due them being biggest lithium processors in the world and are causing world wide dependency on them... Also EV's are not clean as pretty picture has painted. One storm taking out the grid and EV owners are royally fucked. Old diesel you can run with fucking old oil change oil if need arises and work way longer than even gasoline cars, so world should be pushed towards more diesels, specially since bio diesel can be grown easily on the Australia.
@@Hellsong89 aight, hol up
China does have the largest Lithium Mine in the world but only because it has the largest deposit of lithium, theres litterally nothing we could do there aside from buying other lithium mines from around the rest of the world.
As for EVs not being as clean as people say, look at the math, they are way cleaner than gasoline and diesel cars by a mile. Even through the proccessing of the batteries, the power generated theough power plants etc. They are still cleaner by a mile.
As for a storm taking out the grid, it is highly unlikely to occur and it is very difficult for it to happen. Even if a storm did hit that was strong enough to ruin electric infrastructure, then you got bigger problems to deal with than a car that can still drive 300 miles.
As for biofuels, the math has also shown that they are non renewable. It takes more energy to proccess and consume biofuels than it does to make, so youd be spending money on a resource that wont give you any return.
On the other hand using solar cells with electric cars for the exact same reason give off more energy and are more efficient than bio fuels.
Now that being said. Electric is not the end all be all best thing ever. Renewable resources like solar and wind need to be accompanied by non renewables so that they can work better. When the non renewable isnt creating energy, like at night or when theres no wind, and the energy storage system runs out, then you turn on a power plant that runs on coal or petroleum to help out.
Not to mention that there are places where gasoline and diesel are better than electric. Like planes and rockets and heavy equipment. The mass to power ratio that batteries provide are to heavy for them so fuel is better there.
@@Isaacreeper Could you link some of studies and articles about biofuels, ev's etc.
@@magicblaze1553 So Wendover Productions video about the "EV Charging Problem" explains a lot about whats holding EVs back... and also has links to articles and studies.
Real Engineering's video on "Why Biofuels are Terrible" does a good job explaining the premise, though if you want actual articles you can check their description to find the resources they use.
And though Donut Media's video, "Are Electric Vehicles REALLY better for the environment?" doesnt have any resources, it does talk about the environmental effects the cost of production of EVs and ICEs have.
I know theyre not direct resources and could have a lot of interpretational error and bias, but they do link to other resources that were used that could explain it better than I can.
@@Isaacreeper Thanks
I swear, this channel is better than every mainstream news channels; no bullshit, no lies, no shitty crap that they churn out like the world's gonna end tomorrow. Kudos to the makers 👏 👏
FFS
They just sold you an evil illusion. This will be the end of freedom and humanity. Wake up.
... but the world IS going to end tomorrow. I bought tickets and everythingΩ
@@u83208 Go back to sleep...ffs
@@stefanschleps8758 Go back to sleep...ffs
This hasn't aged well.
I suppose you're referring to the lithium ion battery? Which would be fair...ish. lithium is not good for the environment. And electric fires are bad. It's the same with cellphones. What about the rest though? The technology needs to be produced and funded, and it won't be if there's no investment and a stubborn grip on old technology and fuels that should have been phased out 15 years ago.
it actually did
Are you running around making same comment?😂
@@danyul2571but there also the real problem with... car dependency, which could be fixed with many other policies. But that would put many legacy corporations, which today dominate capital on the brink of collapse. Which is no-no. And bunch of other problems. Battery recycling. Lithium is finite. And while we could build more buses, trains, metro and trolleys, we tend to fix our vision on "how to keep people dependent on cars, even if it's electric, it's still worsen our lives". Not even mentioning problems with infrastructure, absolute lack of possibility to own an ev living in apartment building etc.
@@karendarrenmclarenI agree with you, and of course there are growing pains when adjusting to a "new" technology, these are all things that realistically should have been worked out years ago. It's more a case of "we have the technology, we have the resources. We just don't have the funding." EV's are by no means a perfect solution the way they currently operate but there are alternatives to lithium it's just a matter of safely incorporating them. Public transport is also something that needs to be given more attention.
"Authorised by the Government for Taxing Clean Air"
GOLD
@Max St Arlyn You can buy them but there is no guarantee they will work?
@Max St Arlyn It isn't because it can't produce the chips etc they need. When Tesla set up in China they will need a Chinese partner company and thst is when the big technology exchange will happen whether Tesla like it or not.
@Max St Arlyn So As a 3 year old Wumao account with one subscriber who is probably some sort of supervisor you really think I'm going to velieve that your Chinese electric cars are so great. Okay I'll humour you. Name me one that you've been looking at for years and why you've not bought it? Also explain to me how your EVs are going to work without Australian coal to keep the power flowing and the lights on? Do you supply the hamsters and the wheel or are they extras?
@Max St Arlyn so who is your follower?
@Max St Arlyn why do you care? Did you fail the propaganda test?
My god, if someone isn't telling this woman how amazing she is, Australia is committing a crime.
I also listened to her its amazing as well.
Hmm... "amazing". Would that be Aussie for "smoking hot"? If so, I upvote your comment.
She is absolutely amazing! But I'm no Australian. So this doesn't count, I guess... And I really feel pity for the Australians to presumably have the most shitty government in terms of renewables and EV adoption. We here in Germany only have a shitty government in terms of renewables. Since we all here love cars, the EV adoption goes reasonably well...
Australia TOO.
@@DieFlabbergast This is not Reddit. They're called "Likes" here.
The dance and twerking was timely and symbolic of the ship inauguration fiasco.
lol
Oh i see
Wait what ship inauguration fiasco?? Is there a video i can see to enlighten myself.. please🥺?
@@sandeepsampath1985 th-cam.com/video/DutJk8CmrQ4/w-d-xo.html
@@garymiller3403 Wow that's so bad it can't even qualify as r/ATBGE.
I think its amazing no one understands where the power comes from to charge these EV's.....
In my country hydro wind solar nuclear and gaz because we stopped our advanced nuclear sector development program despite this late mistake an EV is quickly beneficial regarding carbon dioxide in comparison with ICE.
Makes me feel slightly less depressed about our sh*t government in the UK. Thank you.
Yeah... every time I think how bad our government is I realise its not just us
For a very short time, I felt less afflicted by living in South Africa... But it passed quickly.
Well if you want to be depressed again EV is not a solution either if the current production of lithium was entirely dedicated to EV cars we could only build 10 millions of cars each year, and no laptop or phones or Electric trucks and anything else that need Li-ION batteries. EV alone are not the solution, what is probably probably best course of action is making our societies less car dependant.
well if it makes you feel any better this whole shit show might just be what sees the torys off. For about 5 years untill everyone forgets it
@@benjaminparent4115 Lithium is one of the most abundant minerals in the universe, and our current proven reserves are enough to continue building batteries and EV's at 2021 rate for 350 years.
The amount of actual Lithium per battery is coming down rapidly, and solid state batteries cut it down vastly. By the time we're even close to running low, we'll already be mining asteroids.
I am not even an Australian but i love watching these
Same lol
Indonesian here i love watching them either
Ditto
Same here!
Me to from the US
That calculator gag never gets old. Ellen Burbidge is simply hilarious.
She sure pounded the hell out of it this time. 👍😂
@Bonjour me to lol
I knew the answer was fuck all, said it at the same time first time I watched it. Ha!
*slap*slap*slap*slap*slap*.... Fuck all ! :D
amazing how that electricity just magically comes out of the wall plug
It's magic fairy tale dust. 😂
Well about 82% of my electricity consumption at home is met by the solar panels on my house, with around 90% of total solar production currently being exported to the grid, such is the excess capacity of my rooftop solar system. That certainly has a magical feeling about it and such excess production will keep my soon to be acquired EV easily charged and topped up for next to no cost. Just the kind of magic I like!
One of my friends already has an EV and solar panels and it's the same situation. Magic, magic, magic everywhere. LOL.
@user-ur1qo4fp1f You are absolutely correct. While this might work perfect if you reside along the Equator, not so well in higher latitudes. Joke Biden says that everyone should buy an electric car. No need for oil & gas since you just plug it in. What seemed to have slipped his mind, besides most everything he does, is that in many U.S. States, there is very little sunshine for many months of the year. So do we all get to stay home and get a paycheck for him or walk to work? If he doesn't want fossil fuels, or nukes, exactly where does he expect the power to the plug to come from? It's absurd. Yes EV's should be considered, but the piss poor electric grid in this Country is in shambles. Just ask Texas when the winter comes and the entire system goes to shit. 20% below zero, "I don't feel a thing, nice and warm here in the White House"! F.U. Biden.
@@BrentonSmythesfieldsayeLucky you. One to have a driveway so you can charge your car at home and two have enough sunshine to generate that much electricity. Here in the U.K. 50% of the U.K. have no drive ways and our beautiful weather will generate around 30% of my electricity for 8 months of the year.
@@davemorris6747 Indeed. I wasn't trying to pee down your back and tell you it was raining. I fully understand it is not a perfect world for everyone on every ocassion. But it still is essentially early days and we are talking about systemic change, not just changes in transport. Some of the nuance is going to take somewhat longer to sort through, but it will eventually happen, if not fast enough.
All the best.
I can't believe the calculator still reads "0" after being mashed like that. 😅
I'm just picturing them needing a bunch of takes because she keeps hitting numbers by mistake or something :D
She broke it so that it doesn't even read "0", it literally reads fuck-all. LOL
Just start with 0 and never use + without a *0 afterwards.
No battery in it. Batteries are too expensive!⚡🤣
I still read "0" after being mashed too. 😏
These days, with the pandemic and impending exams, this is about my only source of serotonin
did you mean dopamine?
@@subinsahayam Seratonin is another chemical that does similar things to dopamine
@@subinsahayam Dopamine is an antagonist of serotonin. Pharmaceutical companies like to keep us believing their BS that serotonin is a happy hormone
I can not believe the Victorian government will literally make it harder to buy electric cars lmao
In the US it used to be harder about ten years ago because all of the available EV models were way more expensive than their standard counterparts but yeah there was never an additional tax, thats crazy
Let me tell you about the motorcycle "safety levy"... Another fun tax :-)
Funding such improvements as huge rollouts of wire rope barriers with no added protection for motorcyclists and the occasional sign warning of twisty roads!
Because the socialist pricks
@@coopsnz1, You know taxes have nothing to do with Socialism. The video said that a Social Democracy country like Norway literally decreases taxes for electric cars show that you know nothing about Socialism and you don't actually watch the video.
@@renlevy411 my client paid $18000 more tax on a car in Vic, so rot in hell Alp politican
I thought this was supposed to be an honest government ad.
Great job guys, what a frustrating situation some people have made for other people, animals, plants... and ultimately themselves.
Themselves? Not at all.. We're talking about overpaid politicians they're either too rich to ever be affected by climate change, or they'll be dead before it truly has an effect. They're actually just evil.
@@r0ninx3phonline We're all too rich, and will all be dead before it truly has an effect. The whole point is thinking about future generations.
@@brianthart6921 We're not ALL in positions of power to decide policy that will doom said future generations though.
@@r0ninx3phonline How funny you say this , you did not think about the renewable companies and investors are getting rich
in selling fake climate change by sending lobbyist to politicians and others and pay money to companies ( non profits groups) to go
and tell people and media and use facebook and Twitters about renewable energies (selling thousands solar panels ) is the answers and all about to make money and become rich themselves. So it is not overpaid politicians but overpaid and getting rich in big bonuses by renewable energies companies CEOs and executives.
@@miike111 Ah yes, the evil renewable lobbyists. Robbing from the do gooder fossil fuel industry. Thank you, you have opened my eyes to the truth random commenter on TH-cam. I see your linked sources are are as rock solid as your logic based argument.
The part where they tell us which government “department” authorized the ad gets me every time
Giordano asks for ideas from the Patreons.
"Authorized by the Department for Ffffing Things Up, Melbourne".
The propaganda department
The most funniest thing is she explains everything with a smile and her tone is like happy pills while she’s literally roasting the government
That's because she's got no idea what she is talking about and everything she is proposing is pure fantasy unless you're prepared to bankrupt the nation.
@@miyu1424 Thanks Brian! It's great to finally get the respect and admiration I deserve. Horray for me!
@@jaredelliott9036 We found the Liberal voter.
@@jaredelliott9036 ewww not you 😭😭😳🤮
@@jaredelliott9036 stop liking your own comments you entitled white brat
Quick question though...where does all the power come from to recharge these bad boys when turning on an air conditioner in the summer can cause rolling blackouts?
Would that be oil gas and nuclear power recharging those green friendly vehicles that use children to mine cobalt for them? (That's still green though right?)
That dance part was unexpected 😂😂😂
"It's just a step to the left.."
@@NoirpoolSea are you referring to the time warp? I believe it's a jump to the left.
@@silverharloe And a step to the RIGHT
Well now its not bc this comment spoiled it lmao
@@entropy8000 how many people scour the comments thoroughly before they watch the video?
it's so chilling that her voice sounds identical to TV ads
And the government automated phone voice
That's the point.
@@colliric Exactley and it's not her voice or at least a prerecording that she's miming to to create the effect.
@@Kavlor1 no it's actually the video editor's deep voiced wife dubbing over the top. They've done several making of videos.
@@colliric Ah yeah got it the wrong way round but yeah was refering to the dubbing.
I'm Canadian but the one thing that I'll always remember about the Australian Government is "Have the world biggest banana, have the world biggest prawn".
We also have Melbourne, home to the biggest group of woke tards 🤣
@@mattrcolt6867 nah canada has more wokes than melbourne does. remember when canada tried to make it illegal to "misgender" your kid?
@@ps5hasnogames55 Wow I'm Canadian and I didn't even hear about that.
We have the biggest idiot as PM too
And how is the EV policy helping us Canadians? Sheet all, we getting screwed as America buys us out as indentured servants.
I love Australians. Combining brains and beauty since 1901.
There is no such thing as a climate "activist," nor a climate "alarmist." They are all climate TERRORISTS.
Australia really just named it "FFS" to Checkmate Honest Government Ads
Sadly, they are mostly wrong on thos particular topic.
@Nathan Taffijn EVs are cheaper long term so that’s a plus
@Nathan Taffijn we have the sun .
@@apachon wich we dont use for electricity.
@@questionyourself718 but we can?
“They’re even linked to low IQ, *which might explain why you keep electing us!”*
I am absolutely hysterical 😂 😂 😂
are you?
@@RobFeldkamp yup and so am I. Freaking brilliant commercial! Why Rob are so in favor of being dependent on foreign oil? Love to hear your answer on that.
@@Kevin.Boyle007 who says i am?
FFS, this is legendary.
For fuck sake lol😂 good thing my parents doesn't speak English
@@Pangkasrapih More like too bad they don't speak english. They missed out on a bunch of amazing jokes.
FFS = "Fuck the Fucking Shitshow"? (:
@@Hexagonian ironically my parents, sent me to learn english,but they don't bother learning themselves,ah I have such a great parents, sometimes I cursed in finnish language
@@sjrm not sure if you’re just finding alternate meanings but it means For Fuck Sakes
I'm from India and I am binge watching these. We need you in India. So much more content.
We need a kickstarter to run this on national media for basic cu** I mean citizens.. During evening news or before news
thats a fantastic idea
For the US as well!
@@wmmseo the US has a tax incentive to support EV buying its just getting smaller as more are sold.
@@darkshadowsx5949 Not exactly true. It would be nice to have federal dollars and policies that would prevent 20 states (like my state of Wisconsin charges a penalty of $100 for buying an EV) from road taxing and charging penalties for buying and driving EVs,
Yes
Whenever I watch this channel, I feel like we are having a revolution.
I feel a bowel movement
we kinda need one......one where we vote for people who do the right thing, or we shoot them.....and/or we can just shoot the existing and then overhaul the entire Westminster system to a more logical modern one....not something was based on the Jurassic period.
Having a revolution ? No, but we need one urgently.
Lmao
@@moestrei why??
What do you hope to change or accomplish??
Whoever writes these is a genius
Wouldn't be that difficult. It's just straight facts.
@@lewisheasman but we get the facts all day long and people mostly ignore them. content like this is a whole nother ballgame
Just stating facts isn’t satire. Satire is an art and excellent satire shouldn’t be undervalued.
@@gordonwilkinson2911 It's satire because they are depicting the government being honest.
I can see them using the same tax argument in the UK using the excuse that EVs are heavier and so cause more wear and tear on the roads, and the emissions of particulates from the tyres are higher as well.
The Hilarious part is they’re often not that much heavier than a similar car.
The people who put these together should win every f*cking award going.
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I'm from Canada and have zero context for me, but these are still too good
I’m from Australia and still know zero context 😂
From France -- just happy we're ahead of the UK
American here, and honestly was suprised that we were included in one of the points about doing something better than [insert other English-speaking country here].
Hi Lauren from Sydney Australia 😎 This channel is both funny and DISTURBING at same time
@@Vohlfied Hi mate, America is mentioned a lot in this channels videos you should watch their previous videos lol
"EVs can't tow a boat..."
*footage of an EV towing a plane*
made me laugh so fucking much i'm convinced politicians think of people as mindless toddlers if they think such blatant misinformation is going to wor-
*it works*
oh.
-Might as well go raid parliament-
Ev's can totally tow them, towing something is mostly dependend on torque and ev's have a lot of that. No what people mean when they say ev's cant be really ised to tow stuff is that their range drops massively when towing something heavy. So much that if you would need to drive 200km with your car to the coast to use your ship you would need to charge your ev there while driving the boat to come back.
@@iloveblackmentwerking For legal reasons I do not agree with this statement
@MrRedstone___ "It's CGI" -some fuckhead from the Australian gov probably
Somebody might need to go and explain to them that trains use electric traction motors, and they're all over the world doing a fine job of moving massive loads.
This is distilled, concentrated and weaponized sarcasm at is finest.
Can't believe they called it FFS. Perfect.
Perfect would be if they never made it at all.
for fuck's sake
What does FFS mean?
The time a former employer launched a Fast Action Response Team. For a day...
Seriously? Four thumbs down? Shell, Esso, Conoco, Woodside?
Greta
At least one Texas Republican angry that they didn't think of an EV tax first.
Nearly 200 dislikes now, that is about half of Angus Taylor's alt accounts.
it's all of the liberal party voters in WA. if it gets too high then maybe a bot or two?
People who understand how EVs are powered?
Nailed it (again).
if by "nailed it", you mean they got everything wrong. then yeah they nailed it..... they are excluding all that actual facts about how destructive Electric Vehicles are to the enviroment compared to fossil fuel vehicles. This video is 100% pure bullshit propaganda that is avoiding the science and facts.
@@orion7741 No, I mean they got (almost) everything right. One thing to note however, is that they showed a graph in which transport was the third(?) biggest polluter -- but you'll notice that the *BIGGEST* polluter was electricity generation. LOL... so moving the transport fleet to EVs won't actually change anything in that respect... in fact, it might even make it far worse, given how much of Australia's electricity comes from *COAL*. Other than that it's all good.
@@xjet Actually Bruce there have been studies that show charging EVs on even the dirtiest electricity (like Victoria's) still has far lower overall emissions than fossil fuel cars. And that doesn't take into account the fairly rapid "greening" of the electricity grid as more and more renewables come online and coal fired power stations close, even in Australia.
@@orion7741
Yeah, they are ignoring what electric cars do to the environment and what vaccines do to health..
Both are HORRIBLE
@@pangit9999 You're right and I'm a huge proponent of EVs, I just thought the graph was perhaps a little counter-intuitive if you're promoting EVs as a lower-polution option. Speaking of the greening of the grid in Australia, what's with the proposal to actually charge people with solar for their infeed to the grid? How crazy is that?
The next Osca awards should be given to you! So good to watch!
3:33 hahaa ha haaaaaaa...
@Omigood why the hell did you just turned a laugh into a cry for help
th-cam.com/video/9f7xAxKtjXc/w-d-xo.html
@@El.Gatito. ??????
@Omigood shut
Sus
The way she said " so are we gonna do it?" " Nah" really made my day...😂
@Mrsquid 🤣lol
I'm not so sure if Lithium Battery based EVs are really the solution to the pollution problem, but Australia has some of the richest Lithium reserves of the world.
I wonder, why they aren't producing EVs on a large scale.
But okay, I get some of it now 😥
USA also has huge lithium reserves. Enough already for the next 100 years. Sodium batteries are already available too, and there's no shortage of salt in the world!
This is hilarious! Don't worry Australia, Utah charges extra on registration for EVs, sadly you're not alone.
EV is equivalent of 10 homes in terms or electricity grid power and it is not paing for roads. It is reasonable to make their owner pay at least in part for it.
@@АлексейПлакхин wut
@@АлексейПлакхин I don't think you've ever heard of the word "fungible". All tax dollars go to the same pool regardless of the source of the tax dollars.
🗽GOD BLESS AMERICA✨
@@GeorgeMonet, let me clarify my point. EV require a lot of energy, which may lead to shortages of energy without goverment intervention. It would be reasonable if the owners of EV pay for them.
Every country needs this series!!
Alas, in some countries satire and self-deprecating wit is banned for being 'unpatriotic' and for "Tarnishing the image of our great nation which only Gaard may criticise".
In some countries, these fine people would (literally) be shot by wild-eyed zealots for encouraging foreigners and communists to laugh at their elected government's incompetence and at their own stupidity for putting them in power. 😞
it definitely needs to be in india. i really want to see sarcastic honest government ads on modi government and even congress because our government is the clear definition of 'fu** you people because we gonna warm our pockets'
True!
If one grows enough balls in the Philippines to start such a channel, you bet your ass they would be shut down by the government fast. Especially when they inevitably brush hairs with a cult called Iglesia ni Cristo, who somehow has a deathgrip on politicians' balls.
@@pratyushdash7573 yeah sadly but people here dont understand this. All governments are alike.😏
When satire writes itself, you just know something isn't quite right.
When the government calls their policy FFS, it does make it harder to make something recognisably a parody... Even the most ridiculous things can be true these days.
An important thing to note here is that EVs are not a real solution to the problems
(Because they require rare earths (the mining of which heavily pollutes the environment), the process of producing them also releases a lot of CO2, etc.)
with cars (just a start to solving the problem)
and cars in general are extremely inefficient, in contrast to public transport, which should be promoted more instead.
My point is: Supporting EVs is a start, but it deals more with Symptoms and less with the real problem, which is Cars in general.
I fucking love how they slap the calculator as if they actually did the math.
They probably did do math… about how much money they could make from taxing EVs
its not how its is done?
Maths :)
I live in Greece so I'm used to some things being shitty but wow Australia is on a whole new level.
Όποια πέτρα και να σηκώσεις από κάτω θα βρεις έναν Έλληνα
Better than the unbased America.
We have been ruined by decades of social engineering by the conservative parties and right-wing media, much like in US. people vote against their own interests, unwittingly, they are uneducated and stupid they fall for the idea that the conservatives are "on their side" we know this is a lie. The conservative cares only for his wealthy paymasters and the aristocracy. Our environment is in ruin, air quality declining, cost of living ever increasing. Thanks to conservative ideology and the lie they're for the common man.
@@jonnyjonny2926 I mean there are eco fas ists if that's your kind of thing. You see for me both the right and the left are the two sides of the same coin. Both pretend to be in the people's favour yet neither is. We saw how well both right wing and left wing countries performed and in both cases populism is everywhere and no one really cares about either the people or the environment. It's just a façade to pretend that you care to get votes. So take your bias out of here because it is just that. A biased world view. Progressivism isn't negative but conservatism isn't as well. Every country has its special needs so demonising either of the two because of our personal experiences and beliefs is wrong. K?
@@d-phoenix2198 Αν έχει παρακολουθήσει καθόλου το κανάλι θα έχεις δει ότι η συντηρητική δεξιά το μόνο που νοιάζεται ένα να αυξάνει τα κέρδη των πολύ εκατομμυριούχων και αυτή είναι μία τάση που δεν παρατηρείται μόνο στην Αυστραλία , αλλά και στα υπόλοιπα μέρη του κόσμου . Για αυτό σταμάτα να μας κάνεις τον έξυπνο και ενημέρωσε τον εαυτό σου .
Ellen is so awesome! The scripts are fantastic but she makes the ads lit!
Elon is just another greedy corporate overlord, he doesn't give two shits about helping the planet. If he did he wouldn't be investing in an climate solutions for the rich and providing literally nothing for the other 90%.
EV's are a great start, but Elon Musk sees this as a business model, not a good deed from his own heart
@@Bryanclntn Ellen. Not Elon.
But there's no such thing as the 'climate crisis'.
Yeah, it’s called keep everyone full of new and stupid stuff to distract them from what is really going on 🤔
"In Australia, we haven't even reached 1% of EV sales. A bit like our vaccine rollout!"
I'm dead. I'm literally deceased.
You and my grandma both!
@Viki Ai LMAO
I hope you didn’t die from waiting for the vaccine 😳
Literally?
I do not think this word means what you think it means.
You will be, when you get it. #no one wants it only stupid gullible sheep.
35 seconds, nearly 40 likes & 10 comments!! Sums up how popular your videos are!! 😳❤️
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I'm guessing all the early comments are from the channel's patrons..
@@yurironoue5888 Sounds legit & makes sense. Or I don't have real-time internet.
Become a Patreon to ensure that thejuicemedia never runs out of calculators to punch.
Using higher mileage vehicles is the key, not impractical EVs!
FFS
I love the Australian satire. Freedom of speech will continue via comedy otherwise will no longer exist.
Love you guys..
Watched your craziness for years.
Look up Issac Butterfield on here, the brutal honest truth.
Worth noting, we don't technically have freedom of speech here in Australia. No constitutional right to it, and no explicit legal right.
We mostly seem to manage alright though, except that truth isn't actually a legal defence against a defamation suit.
This should be on ABC TV .
Like Chasers before the Howard government was able to back door the high rating show
Yeah, nah. Freedom of speech isn't under threat if you're a Lefty fuckwit. These chicks won't have the feminazis, twitterati, lamestream media, or woke mob hounding for their cancellation and proverbial (or literal) heads on a platter. And let's face it, there's zero fucking chance of a Right wing government ever trying to push back against this sort of shit.
For Freedom of Speech. If u turn it into an acronym, yep, same result.
This channel is pretty much the only place I get news from Australia. WTF is going on down there?
check out friendly jordies as well then. He's great for ripping on the media here as well.
Yeah, i'm not sure that I'm even proud to call myself Australian anymore :-(
Apparently not many EVs are going on down there
Yeah I'm from the US, and I wasn't expecting all this to happen in Australia. Sometimes, it feels like every other country is peaceful with no problems whatsoever, compared to America. 😅
@@youknowhoo3 well America has the petfect combination of not being close to any other country while being wide and with enough population to ensure that there always is something wrong, so that explains it.
Here in Europe we're all bunched up on each other, meaning we _have to_ know a bit more of what's happening outside our borders
These are funny but also make me legitimately depressed that life is always gonna ruled by the greedy
Fun n disturbing at the same time
@3-7-77 we can't they took our good guns off us
Don't vote for politicians who get completely sponsored and brought by Big Oil.
Humans are funny like that. We've been doing this shit since before we were even Sapient- we have it in us to do better in this day and age of potential (reasonable) abundance for every member of our species, but monkey brain gonna do what monkey brain gonna do. It's infuriating.
I know nobody wants to be poor, but once you've got more than enough surely you can afford to pay a fair share of tax and stop screwing over the workers?
Finally talking about the environment. Thank you. Always gets my uptick 👍
As soon as the calculator shows up im laughing
If people get tax breaks for buying a car for "helping the environment", then people that take public transportation, bike, or walk should receive a government payout each week.
yup
Definition "A Government Payout". Money that Government has stolen from productive citizens by force only to be redistributed to someone else whilst incuring a substantial administrative overhead in the Governments favour in the process.
Poor people subsidizing the fads of rich people.
Sorry but our public transport is already heavily funded by public money. The tiny EV incentives that is even possible to inact is a tiny fraction of similar incentives for Public Transport. We NEED BOTH just at a much smaller scale for BEVs.
@@Deontjie LIES! The same lies were said when Long Range BEVs only $100,000. Now the long range BEVs are $50,000 rinse repeat the same propaganda. Soon it'll be $30,000 and the same lies will be still be used. It's propaganda to brainwash people to not learn the simple fact of Economies of Scale
. FYI The average Aus new car price is $40,000.
I always repeat the calculator part for a couple of times smiling like a happy child.
Omg I'm picturing that
Sounds like our Aussie neighbours have actually had a proper look into the EV mass hysteria and have looked just a little ahead to find it won't be all rainbows and roses...
Thanks Martin for providing testament that ICE vehicle exhausts do indeed lower IQ. You are just the type of person that could benefit from EVs.
@@BrentonSmythesfieldsaye
Maybe you are not smart enough to understand that there is no future with EV. You have to think to understand that.
But i can understand that thinking might be painful for you and i wouldn't like you to get hurt.
@@rolandtoma7533 The irony of your post is indeed palpable!
Politicians act like politicians so often that I think maybe their only concern is to maintain personal, family and party wealth and power. Like a Scumbag would.
Well, yes... your environment in a large part determines your behaviour and the direction of your personal growth. Expecting politicians to not act like politicians is like expecting bakers to not act like bakers. In the case of bakers it is harmless, but in the case of politicians we need to take them out of politics after a handful years, to protect them from becoming too much like politicians. I think we should treat power like we treat radiation: There's a life time limit on how much exposure radiation-heavy jobs allow.
politicians are holding us back SEVERELY. i'm not even kidding, if they did their job and only their job, we'd be easily where we MIGHT be 500 years in the future now.
@@GraveUypo More specifically "profit" holds us back. A light bulb that's still going today was made in 1901 but that tech is not profitable. We have the ability "now" to create machines that will never fail. NOT PROFITABLE! Needs to stop now, our technology is our evolution and we as a species are being held back!
@@waylandsmith235 nah that light bulb is just an incandescent bulb running at very low wattage constantly, so there's no thermal stress at all. there's nothing special about it.
yeah planned obsolesce is a thing (i know why you brought that bulb up), but that is DEFINITIVELY not what is holding us back the most. it's government corruption. because if that wasn't a thing, private corruption wouldn't get a pass either.
Australia is looking worse and worse with every ad...
Is this all true btw? I kinda do believe it.
@@akshaydn5 yes.
I feel bad for them. 😭😔🙏
The current Federal government here are both corrupt, and despicable
We need the calculator for EVERY Honest Government Ad, it is reassuring that you have crunched the numbers….
These ads makes me glad I'm American, then I realize I'm in America
A lot of times with these ads I’m like yeah we’ve (USA) been doing that for 40+ years 🤦🏻♂️
@@stuckinflorida9685 yeah but not to this extent
💡🙌
@Ben Dover
We didn’t get rid of trumpism, if anything it’s stronger than ever, and we have some bat shit crazy representatives that believe in some of the craziest conspiracies. We will see over the next 4-6 years 🤞🏼
At least your future is looking up now with Biden.
The Victorian Government and the Australian Government.
We stopped these
I died.
Heh
The way I understand it Australia is uniquely suited to supply all its citizens with clean electric energy but it also has a shitload of fossil fuels that are profitable to extract. So ideal breeding ground for a conflict of epic proportions between progress and legacy industry Luddism.
You may recall the country with the highest adoption of EVs is Norway. At the same time Norway gets it's largest revenue from oil exports.
@@kariusbaktus76 There's probably a culture in Norway of having to live off the land and within one's means, long before the North Sea oil was discovered, which was like, in the 1980s.
Whereas places like Australia and America are traditionally frontier countries, where people went in search of abundant resources -- where the idea of making it was more tied to the dream of winning the prospecting lottery.
I guess Australia is ideologically more somewhere in between America and Norway, considering energy ideology, which is why the conflict is the most interesting there.
And, of course, the population density is rather low, meaning there is both a massive amount of renewable energy to be had per inhabitant, but also a lot of fossil fuel profits. So a lot of money in either venture for not all that many people, compared to the US or China -- which are roughly the same geographic size as Australia, but just a little bit more populous.
The policies would make some sense if that were true. But no, we've actually got little oil and need to import most of our transport petroleum demand.
@@picoallen Well, there's a lot of coal and natural gas, so my guess is the extraction industry of those resources feels threatened. There is some oil.
If you get a lot of electric cars then you get a lot of battery infrastructure, meaning the batteries can be used for other stuff as well, such as storing intermittent renewable energy, rendering coal and gas power plants obsolete.
And if you create demand for electric cars that means they're going to make more over in China to export to Australia, meaning they might become independent from Australian coal imports sooner over there as well.
Of course Australia has a lot of other stuff they can export for the new industries, such as lithium, nickel, copper, and aluminum. But my guess is, there's a lot of money invested in the fossil fuel mining boom of the last 15 years or so, and who wants to leave that gravy train who's currently on it, hopefully to catch another one?
Ultimately they're just going to delay the inevitable, but a few more years of preventing the switch to renewables means a few more years of profit and a few more years that the new industries aren't more financially and politically powerful than the old ones. Their Luddism is self-servingly rational.
What makes you think we are well placed to supply all with "clean" energy?
I’d be interested in the a follow up about the rare earth minerals that go into EV moving the pollution problem off shore. 😂 least we get cleaner air
I'm lost for words. Insane... total corruption and incompetence.
Your videos are so inspirational it makes me want to go directly to Australia just to complain
BAHA, same!
I know right? I'm from Norway and I'm inclined to call my local Victorian MP to tell him my 2 cents.
I demand a 10 hour dance party loop with Ellen on the front of that Tesla!
3:28
I support your demand
After much exhaustive research - I also support your demand
get the youtube looper extension for chrome
start 3:30
end 3:34
your welcome
Yes. Also do one with Ellen, Baron Zemo and Bully Maguire
in Norway, the share is now at 90%
Evs will ruin the weekend. What will I do if I can’t tow my 2 jetliners to the beach?
Well, if we all keep driving big V8s, the sea levels might rise far enough so the beach comes to your jets. 🤣
@@Perry_dAccard 😂😂😂😂
@@Perry_dAccard Or maybe people should simply stop driving.
@@emilefrenette9325 that still does not get his jets to the beach. C'mon we have some real problems here. Be part of the solution.
@@Perry_dAccard The solution doesn't include jets at all.