Those faces on the hotel still conjure up sad and lonely feelings. Amazing that the architect would go to the time and effort to design some so beautiful and emotionally provoking bits of artwork that so few would be able to see. But thanks to the brave efforts of You and Connor, a guy in Texas, U.S.A. (Me) can see these small details of magnificent artwork. Thanks!
Look and behold, for god was generous and bequeathed them a dinghy, resplendent like the night sun. Lo and they looked upon that mighty hole that man had made. Now piled high with slit from other dominions and soot from man's bottom. Hark, what a beautiful sound the angels made as they rejoiced. (I have no idea how I missed this channel throughout all the years it has been on, delivering some exceptional content. It has been less than a week, and I cannot tell you how many videos I have been binge-watching.)
Nice video Martin, dukes tunnel remains a mystery. Amazing that fish seem to be doing well in the Medlock. Looking forward to the next episode and the river Tib.
Good to see how the water quality has improved since the sixties when the City centre water in the Medlock and Irwell was anaerobic, full of black sewage fungus and essentially dead to fish. That was a beautiful specimin in the culvert. The smaller fish in the natural river section may have been sticklebacks but hard to tell. How many happy hours I spent with wellies, jam jar on a string and 2 bob fishing net in the brooks and streams just outside Manchester proper. Minnows and sticklebacks and newts in the swamps in badly drained areas near railway embankments. Some sort of paradise maybe?
Yes I remember the rivers back then. Looking down from Cathedral Steps was horrific. There were some lifebelts attached to the railings. I don't think you drowned, you dissolved. You could usually smell hops from all the breweries in the vicinity.
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Dukes tunnel was filled in by British Rail when the new Station buildings were put up on the station approach at London Road(now Manchester piccadilly) during the rebuilding in the 1960's.
Did you notice you could see past the mound of silt where the water was coming through? I’ll have to check again in case it was a trick of the light reflections but it only looked a few feet deep into the tunnel.
The silt near the Duke's entrance could have washed down from the construction site fill in .Back then , fill from excavations would not have traveled far . The first rule of material handling is don't .
Found this channel about 6 months ago,got me big time into exploring the old railway by my house,and the underground culvert ,so thank you for inspiring me to get off my arse an learn some local history :)
Many thanks Martin and Connor. Fantastic, watched with great interest I too wondered how far the Duke's tunnel went for the past 50 years. Now I know. Interesting to see water coming out of it. I suspect the heads on the Refuge building represent areas of the world where the company did business. The first looked Scandanavian and the third was probably a North American Indian as you can just make our some feathers. Looking forward to the next installment. Best Wishes Pete
1- hi vis vest, 2- hardhat, 3- clipboard with paperwork. It's the passport to many restricted areas. A shovel is an option if paperwork is to difficult to keep dry, but a clipboard is more effective.
Thanks once again Martin great video watch so many different visit of your library you open my eyes about my city of Manchester& surrounding areas. The coal yard near the old police stn&fire stn moss side there was a small black bear used to be sadly John chin up about 1958 I stroke it most times when I was sent for a bag of coal we lived in Lincoln St 42 facing Hyde anvil wine beer shop you bring these lovely memories back as yesterday. rooney
Great, Martin! A disappointment, for sure, but wonderful to see inside the old tunnel. Probably just silted up for a short way, I expect most of the silt comes from the Medlock, during high water. No real flow from within. I know it wouldn't be something the city would do, but it would certainly be nice if someone took it into their head to clean the trash out of the river...
I would have thought it had been done deliberately to stop any intrepid explorers from going in. It must be SO dangerous further in with the roof totally unmaintained for over 200 years and all the vibrations and settling from traffic, building work etc. The shape of the blockage does look similar to what Martin has found in old railway tunnels before, although I'd have expected more stone and brick if that were the case. I'd imagine the tunnel has been totally dug-through and blocked with concrete foundations in places, being so close to the surface... but then, from the earlier videos, the culveted Shooters Brook hasn't - at least for as far as the little robot got, so who knows.
Thumbs up as always but.... glad to see you wear a hard hat Martin; when you entered the culvert I was looking at the stones etc above the hole that were close to the entry. It might not do more than hurt but please folks copy Martin and keep your head safe. :-)
I always wondered why the smoking area at the lass'o gowrie sometimes stunk to high heaven it's no wonder when there's a sewer overflow underneath the bridge, great pub though. Thanks for filming this I always wanted to walk it myself.
That’s not a sewer technically, it’s a surface water drain. Sewage from toilets and the like isn’t discharged into rivers normally. If it was, the Medlock would be full of toilet paper, condoms and everything else that people flush down toilets.
I,m only here for the Tea!Great video again Martin , but a shock at the start! i thought the old Bill had caught me up in Germany ;-) Greetings everyone from Germany
Im across the pond in Coventry and there is nothing like that here but your videos are awesome and I feel I’m virtually exploring from a phone screen and I love them. I really thought no he’s not going to go through that tunnel 8ft deep with silt and I was quite relieved it was filled, you mad man. Keep up the great vids from a long time subscriber.
Dubmonkey87. Hi. We're sadly coming up to the bicenteniary of the "Peterloo Massacre" next month which took place within yards of this bridge and you can see the original bridge in that wonderful shot that people must have crossed to hear Orator Hunt on that fateful day. It started as a Holiday atmosphere in fields and ended so tragically. 😢
Hi Martin!! Well worth the wait for your exploration of section of the Medlock. Absolutely loved this video. Thousands of times I've crossed over & above this part of the river. I've probably carried thousands & thousands people across its bridges too over many years. To see it from this angle is magnificent. Massive round of applause to you & Connor 👏👏😊
Yes it was defensive at first when Agricola founded the city, the rivers Irwell and Medlock. Romans go back to Rome in the 400's. Saxons come, think they've found a better site for defence a mile upstream rivers Irwell and Irk. Upsticks from the Roman Vicus to the better site. Better still they find another watercourse the Hangan that effectively covers the unguarded side making the centre of Mcr. effectively an island. Rivers then lose defensive role and are used for power. They are used for transport but have a disadvantage in droughts they become impassable. Magnates get their heads together. Why not widen the Irwell, cut out the meanders and straighten it and for good measure put a lock down stream to make it navigable in all conditions. Result the Mcr. Ship Canal which serviced purpose-built docks the third largest by tonnage in UK by 1900's Comtainerisation comes and ship sizes increase, docks become uneconomic now BBC have their Northern Headquarters on the dock site, Media City. Rivers have been fundamental to Mcr and as a result are represented by the three stripes and ship on the civic coat-of-arms.🙂
WOW, such great content. Your passion for Manchester, the bee on your hard hat, the new footage balanced with the old photos and maps. Love your videos, keep going!
I would say it is a fair bet given the age it was built that the faces on the wall of the Refuge building are Arthurian - Guinevere, Merlin, Arthur. They were very popular with the Art Nouveau crowd.
Another great interesting video thanks guys love the history. So much of Manchester above is being changed great you can still see the history xxxx of a great city.
Dammit being filled in, great explore though and the music totally on point as usual. Thanks Martin, I wouldn't suggest dig it but :D rent a drain endoscope for the small gap? :D
"Double Job". Let's say 'Bifurcated'. Fish was a chub, as stated by someone else. Water is clean, shame about the rubbish. You clearly had a hoot- I feel the best is yet to come, and may be scary/difficult. You two make a perfect team, thanx to both of you for doing and uploading. Majestic work. IMHO, modern manholes should be termed 'half-man holes', as they won't admit of a man of a certain stature. Ahem.
aww what a shame it has been filled in but nice to see the river is a lot cleaner these days. Brilliant video Martin your editing is really coming on too!! Hope we get to see your little boat again 🤣🤣🤣🤞🤗
An absolutely brilliant video. It shows amateur local history at its very best. One of the few occasions where I actually did laugh out loud when I saw the dingy being lowered down. 'Made me think that MCC really should look into cleaning the Medlock and making more of a feature of it.
Even in Coventry they're now talking about opening the River Sherbourne up again as it's been running culverted for a long time. So rivers through cities definitely should be opened up for all to enjoy. But that's just my tuppence worth :)
The fish is a Chub, very common river fish. Great scrapper when you hook one. I've been lifting them out of the River Douglas only yards from Wigan town centre for the past few days. Great video, once again.
Wonder how silted up the medlock is .. I know from my days that Bolton had the little river side "Door ways and windows" Also there seems to be the same in stockportt near the Asda .. these could have been basement level windows and the like maybe ?
I think over the past two hundred years its level has significantly heightened as can be demonstrated by Dukes tunnel. I think the cause was cinders dumped in the river
I wonder, does the saying “leg it” as in run away quickly come from these low canal tunnels? PS. If anyone is giving a thumbs down to this could you please leave a comment why? What were you expecting and how were your expectations not met?
Crazy to think this river would have been the only source of water for the villages that would become Manchester before piped water, and now it's mostly a neglected water passage. ignored but the city folk and authorities. you'd think they would have it cleaned and cleared regularly?
It wasn't the only source there's a number of rivers that got the same culverting. That IS clean (relatively) you should have seen them before😉 Absolute Third World.
@@English_Dawn Sure I meant the only one right there obviously, there are a number of rivers in the city I was referring to just the area they are in. yeah it runs clean I can see that, again I was referring to the clutter and some of the silt, you'd think they would clear that occasionally?
@@Thunderer0872 You are right for a normal city or town. Problem is Mcr wasn't. It was Third World in it's rivers and open space. 30 years all its rivers were anaerobic and a dumping ground full of oil-drums and supermarket trolleys. If you had seen it then! Mcr and other Northern cities went South economically during the 1900's. Canals filled in tumbleweed on open space. Gradually Mcr. Council has had to be dragged kicking and screaming into line with what is expected. Mcr. as you will know never bothered investing in an underground and was very business orientated rather than people or the environment. It doesn't have the city-centre green parks London has. Next month sadly is the bicentennial of the "Peterloo Massacre" which was just yards away from Martin's programme. To see fish in those streams is gobsmacking there's not been fish in them for centuries. Mcr. is 3rd behind London and Edinburgh for tourism so you can says it's in their interest to clean up as tourists expect higher standards so hopefully they are doing it for environmental, civic, reasons but the fact that money is involved filling hotels, conferences etc it will drag the Council kicking and screaming to do what the rest of us has always wanted as environment was a complete disgrace. Thank you for your concern.🙂
Another fantastic video presented with the usual infectious charm. Love the way that you set what we're seeing today into its historic context. My knowledge of Manchester grows by the week! So the nemesis turned out to be nothing more than a watery alcove! Still it's the discovery that matters. Many thanks and can't wait to see the next instalment of this epic adventure.
I let out a big "Oh NO" when I saw that the tunnel was filled in. My wife yelled to me from the other room asked what was wrong. I replied, "you would not understand". I then spent the next 5 minutes explaining to her why I was disappointed. She said, "Ah too bad". I knew she would not understand HAHAHA.
So... I'm going to ask the obvious question.... what's with the weird flashing lights in the archway you encountered before going into Dukes Tunnel? I suppose you put them in there but why? Anyway, thanks for another great video! Cheers!
Blocked! What a shame; I had visions of you propelling your little boat up the tunnel with your feet on the ceiling - the first person to do it in a century or more!
Yes me too. It would have been great if Martin could have 'legged' in, even just a few metres. Knowing how passionate he is about that particular place, I'm sure it would have been the highlight of all his exploring. I genuinely felt so sorry for him when we saw it had been filled.
what a shame all this time of what if and it is filled in. but thank you for all your hard work martin you have been a load of wisdom and I will stay to see what more to come and hi from NewZealand
Absolutely love these videos, from a fellow North Mancunian it is a joy to see fish & wildlife repopulating our once appallingly polluted rivers. Great content Martin, smashed it!!!
Another awesome video mom very good it was a neat trick with the boat it's about it's all so thin you know I do believe there might be another way mistreat level but it doesn't mean it's not filled in diva maybe someday you'll find your way in then you can put that one to rest how good luck on your next one I'll be waiting for it
did anyone else have a massive grin on their face seeing the dinghy being lowered down lol
So fortunate that the urbex gods chose to shine on this day. Chances of that happening eh!
A gift from above
an aligning of the planets 😀
being a child of the 60's cool the dinghy was called Stingray - on another mission
@@suffolksettler5106 When it arrived, it would have been a perfect time for the Thunderbirds theme!
Loved this and the Refuge Building video. I was born within spitting distance at the old St Mary's Hospital. Thanks Martin
It always surprises me when, in the middle of all of the spray painted crap on the walls, a piece of really good art pops up.
👍😃
The boat appearing was the funniest thing I've seen all year!
Thanks, It took some organising 😆
Those faces on the hotel still conjure up sad and lonely feelings. Amazing that the architect would go to the time and effort to design some so beautiful and emotionally provoking bits of artwork that so few would be able to see. But thanks to the brave efforts of You and Connor, a guy in Texas, U.S.A. (Me) can see these small details of magnificent artwork.
Thanks!
Thanks Peter yes its amazing that they face the river and no one sees them
Maybe they have that sad look due to the condition of the river today with all that junk in it ... ? Well. Maybe not. But one *could* argue that way.
Loved to see the fish at 3:51, they are so resilient.
Yes its great seeing fish in a once polluted river
You coulda crawled fearlessly down that little overflow, if not for the vicious pigeon which has stood guard for 200 yrs.
The Pigeon said, "you shall not pass"
@@MartinZero "NONE shall pass!"
Martin get's savaged by the pidgeon
"'tis but a flesh wound"
@@garybroadhurst3548 and would have ended with Martin saying "Alright, let's call it a draw."
Look and behold, for god was generous and bequeathed them a dinghy, resplendent like the night sun. Lo and they looked upon that mighty hole that man had made. Now piled high with slit from other dominions and soot from man's bottom. Hark, what a beautiful sound the angels made as they rejoiced. (I have no idea how I missed this channel throughout all the years it has been on, delivering some exceptional content. It has been less than a week, and I cannot tell you how many videos I have been binge-watching.)
Nice video Martin, dukes tunnel remains a mystery. Amazing that fish seem to be doing well in the Medlock. Looking forward to the next episode and the river Tib.
Thanks yeah great to see fish. Yep the Tib may pop up
Another great instalment Martin
Thanks Glyn
Good to see how the water quality has improved since the sixties when the City centre water in the Medlock and Irwell was anaerobic, full of black sewage fungus and essentially dead to fish. That was a beautiful specimin in the culvert. The smaller fish in the natural river section may have been sticklebacks but hard to tell. How many happy hours I spent with wellies, jam jar on a string and 2 bob fishing net in the brooks and streams just outside Manchester proper. Minnows and sticklebacks and newts in the swamps in badly drained areas near railway embankments. Some sort of paradise maybe?
Yes I remember the rivers back then. Looking down from Cathedral Steps was horrific. There were some lifebelts attached to the railings.
I don't think you drowned, you dissolved.
You could usually smell hops from all the breweries in the vicinity.
Poetic,
Lovely.
👍💖
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Thanks very much Kirk
bloody excellent video. Keep it up !! Better than Discovery channel
Thank you Joe
Finally no tunnel acces, but what a pleasure again to see this river medloc episode and you guys having fun.
Thanks very much Flo
Excellent video again, like you I was disappointed with the tunnel being filled in.
However, you looked like you were having fun with your dinghy.
Yes Roy we had to at least find out
When the boat was being lowered, I was so happy I actually got tears in my eyes. You are an amazing man. Thank you, from Texas USA.
@@sarahsmthrox Thank you so very much. Am glad you enjoyed it 👍😃
That leaves too many unanswered questions :-)
It does Frank
It does but the mystique survives😉 The "what if's".🙂
Dukes tunnel was filled in by British Rail when the new Station buildings were put up on the station approach at London Road(now Manchester piccadilly) during the rebuilding in the 1960's.
Dammit 😭
Hi Adelle and thank you. Thats interesting can you tell me where you get your info Id like to read up ?
Did you notice you could see past the mound of silt where the water was coming through? I’ll have to check again in case it was a trick of the light reflections but it only looked a few feet deep into the tunnel.
The silt near the Duke's entrance could have washed down from the construction site fill in .Back then , fill from excavations would not have traveled far . The first rule of material handling is don't .
I really like the extreme angle that Dukes tunnel makes with the river. It's nothing near a right angle.
I used to watch the river flowing into that culvert, i never reslised anyone could actually walk through it. Facinating
What an absolute score Martin! Now this is how you tour a city!
Thanks yes its certainly the alternative tour 😃
Another brilliant video Martin can’t wait for the next video
Thanks John
Found this channel about 6 months ago,got me big time into exploring the old railway by my house,and the underground culvert ,so thank you for inspiring me to get off my arse an learn some local history :)
Thank you very much. Hope the explorings going well
Many thanks Martin and Connor. Fantastic, watched with great interest I too wondered how far the Duke's tunnel went for the past 50 years. Now I know. Interesting to see water coming out of it. I suspect the heads on the Refuge building represent areas of the world where the company did business. The first looked Scandanavian and the third was probably a North American Indian as you can just make our some feathers. Looking forward to the next installment. Best Wishes Pete
Thanks Pete, thats interesting about the heads thanks
Time to crack a beer open guys and gals, this gonna be good.
Cheers Joseph
Another great video again Martin and Connor Waltham
Thank you Heath
Excellent Martin. Your love of old Manchester shines through all your videos
Thanks Peter 👍
Fine business Sirs. Enjoyed the journey into merry olde England...and...great music. We want more :)
Thank you very much
always wear a hi-vis no one will question what you are doing haha just think your workmen
Sometimes true 😃
Some journalists in various places have tried it. Doesn’t always work but very often it does.
1- hi vis vest, 2- hardhat, 3- clipboard with paperwork. It's the passport to many restricted areas. A shovel is an option if paperwork is to difficult to keep dry, but a clipboard is more effective.
@@MartinZero I tried it. She knew I wasn't a gynecologist.
@@gteaz It was the waders - use trainers next time.
Thanks once again Martin great video watch so many different visit of your library you open my eyes about my city of Manchester& surrounding areas. The coal yard near the old police stn&fire stn moss side there was a small black bear used to be sadly John chin up about 1958 I stroke it most times when I was sent for a bag of coal we lived in Lincoln St 42 facing Hyde anvil wine beer shop you bring these lovely memories back as yesterday. rooney
Thanks very much John and thats interesting
Top quality as always!
Thanks David
another, awesome and fascinating video.
Thanks Chris
Great, Martin! A disappointment, for sure, but wonderful to see inside the old tunnel. Probably just silted up for a short way, I expect most of the silt comes from the Medlock, during high water. No real flow from within. I know it wouldn't be something the city would do, but it would certainly be nice if someone took it into their head to clean the trash out of the river...
Yes I think its years of impacted silt pity
I would have thought it had been done deliberately to stop any intrepid explorers from going in. It must be SO dangerous further in with the roof totally unmaintained for over 200 years and all the vibrations and settling from traffic, building work etc. The shape of the blockage does look similar to what Martin has found in old railway tunnels before, although I'd have expected more stone and brick if that were the case. I'd imagine the tunnel has been totally dug-through and blocked with concrete foundations in places, being so close to the surface... but then, from the earlier videos, the culveted Shooters Brook hasn't - at least for as far as the little robot got, so who knows.
The angel is amazing. Well done.
Thank you
Fantastic video keep up the good work 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Thanks David
Thumbs up as always but.... glad to see you wear a hard hat Martin; when you entered the culvert I was looking at the stones etc above the hole that were close to the entry. It might not do more than hurt but please folks copy Martin and keep your head safe. :-)
Thanks Simon
I always wondered why the smoking area at the lass'o gowrie sometimes stunk to high heaven it's no wonder when there's a sewer overflow underneath the bridge, great pub though. Thanks for filming this I always wanted to walk it myself.
Thanks, am starting to like sewers 😃
That’s not a sewer technically, it’s a surface water drain. Sewage from toilets and the like isn’t discharged into rivers normally. If it was, the Medlock would be full of toilet paper, condoms and everything else that people flush down toilets.
It was when I was a kid
Brilliant as ever martin
I,m only here for the Tea!Great video again Martin , but a shock at the start! i thought the old Bill had caught me up in Germany ;-) Greetings everyone from Germany
Thanks Julian and greetings to Germany
Im across the pond in Coventry and there is nothing like that here but your videos are awesome and I feel I’m virtually exploring from a phone screen and I love them. I really thought no he’s not going to go through that tunnel 8ft deep with silt and I was quite relieved it was filled, you mad man. Keep up the great vids from a long time subscriber.
Thanks very much. I would have gone in if I could. Thanks for staying with me much appreciated
Dubmonkey87. Hi. We're sadly coming up to the bicenteniary of the "Peterloo Massacre" next month which took place within yards of this bridge and you can see the original bridge in that wonderful shot that people must have crossed to hear Orator Hunt on that fateful day. It started as a Holiday atmosphere in fields and ended so tragically. 😢
Nice one, i'll be watching this shortly with some pie and peas and a mug of tea :-)
No peas for me thanks
Wot, no mash?!!
@@cargy930 Ended up having some chunky chips.
mushy ones with mint sauce... lovely.
Absolutely fantastic video guys ❤️👍🏼
Thanks very much Craig
If you get a minute, can you do the amazon.
Next week 👍
Wow!!!!
The original Oxford Rd bridge hidden way down underneith the existing roadway.
Now THATS amazing!!!!!
I had to laugh when I saw the raft coming down over the side. Good planning.
Thanks Lance, yeah it took some planning 😃
Murphy's law.... ^^
Good video walking on the water finding tunnels
Thanks Caroline
Hi Martin!! Well worth the wait for your exploration of section of the Medlock.
Absolutely loved this video. Thousands of times I've crossed over & above this part of the river. I've probably carried thousands & thousands people across its bridges too over many years.
To see it from this angle is magnificent.
Massive round of applause to you & Connor 👏👏😊
Thanks very much, yeah its great being down there totally different perspective 👍😀
brilliant as per usual martin and connor
Thank you Danny
What an amazing video. Thank you Sir, I really enjoyed watching that!!
Thank you Chris
Fascinating video of how a city builds up around rivers.
Thanks Leslie
Yes it was defensive at first when Agricola founded the city, the rivers Irwell and Medlock. Romans go back to Rome in the 400's. Saxons come, think they've found a better site for defence a mile upstream rivers Irwell and Irk. Upsticks from the Roman Vicus to the better site. Better still they find another watercourse the Hangan that effectively covers the unguarded side making the centre of Mcr. effectively an island.
Rivers then lose defensive role and are used for power.
They are used for transport but have a disadvantage in droughts they become impassable. Magnates get their heads together. Why not widen the Irwell, cut out the meanders and straighten it and for good measure put a lock down stream to make it navigable in all conditions. Result the Mcr. Ship Canal which serviced purpose-built docks the third largest by tonnage in UK by 1900's
Comtainerisation comes and ship sizes increase, docks become uneconomic now BBC have their Northern Headquarters on the dock site, Media City.
Rivers have been fundamental to Mcr and as a result are represented by the three stripes and ship on the civic coat-of-arms.🙂
This video just showed up in notifications, can't wait to watch it. Always look forward to your videos Martin!👍❤️🕉
Thanks very much
Ax ever mate, a really good vid. Regards Paul.
Thanks very much Paul
WOW, such great content. Your passion for Manchester, the bee on your hard hat, the new footage balanced with the old photos and maps. Love your videos, keep going!
Thank you very much
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦 love your adventures fascinating
Thank you
I would say it is a fair bet given the age it was built that the faces on the wall of the Refuge building are Arthurian - Guinevere, Merlin, Arthur. They were very popular with the Art Nouveau crowd.
Probably Pat certainly looks like em 👍
Class videos man see it up
Another great interesting video thanks guys love the history. So much of Manchester above is being changed great you can still see the history xxxx of a great city.
Thanks Lee much appreciated
Bollocks to that Martin! Deep holes and water. My nightmares are your playground.
Ha more Bollocks deep water to come Rob 😃
Dammit being filled in, great explore though and the music totally on point as usual. Thanks Martin, I wouldn't suggest dig it but :D rent a drain endoscope for the small gap? :D
That would be a good idea and thanks very much
@@MartinZero buy a carbon fishing boom and mount a Gopro on the end.
Awesome video guys. next you will be starting the "Clean up the Medlock campaign" LOL
Clear out Dukes tunnel campaign 😃
@@MartinZero I can't remember can you get into the other end of dukes tunnel?
"Double Job". Let's say 'Bifurcated'.
Fish was a chub, as stated by someone else. Water is clean, shame about the rubbish.
You clearly had a hoot- I feel the best is yet to come, and may be scary/difficult.
You two make a perfect team, thanx to both of you for doing and uploading. Majestic work.
IMHO, modern manholes should be termed 'half-man holes', as they won't admit of a man of a certain stature. Ahem.
Thank you, yes lovely little chub 👍
Sorry your right chub ! Not barbel 🙄
Any volunteers to clean it? Would make for an another film. Maybe the council would pay for a skip?
Fascinating video, love the history behind it !!!!
Thanks Marilyn really appreciate it
aww what a shame it has been filled in but nice to see the river is a lot cleaner these days. Brilliant video Martin your editing is really coming on too!! Hope we get to see your little boat again 🤣🤣🤣🤞🤗
Thanks Dawn, I sold the boat for a canoe 😀
@@MartinZero ...no motor then? 🤣🤣🤣
Thanks martin and Connor another bril vid!
Thank you Chris
I have seen a strong flow emerging from Dukes a couple of times during storms.
Where you seeing this from Chris ?
Well Duke's tunnel was a bit of a let down...🙈😂🤣 besides that awesome episode! 👍🏻👌🏻
Cheers
Yet another mint video. Nice one, love this river medlock series youve created. Irwell next ? ☺
Thank you, thing about the Irwell its too deep to wade in
@@MartinZero more of a walk along the riverbank then, we dont want you drowning 😉
An absolutely brilliant video. It shows amateur local history at its very best. One of the few occasions where I actually did laugh out loud when I saw the dingy being lowered down. 'Made me think that MCC really should look into cleaning the Medlock and making more of a feature of it.
Even in Coventry they're now talking about opening the River Sherbourne up again as it's been running culverted for a long time.
So rivers through cities definitely should be opened up for all to enjoy. But that's just my tuppence worth :)
The fish is a Chub, very common river fish. Great scrapper when you hook one. I've been lifting them out of the River Douglas only yards from Wigan town centre for the past few days.
Great video, once again.
Yes Chub
Thanks very much, I really dont know Fish
leave the fish alone
absolutley outstanding martin getting the dingy lowered down to you ..lol made me smile
Thanks John 👍
The faces were Greek characters the girl is the same as the statue of liberty them faces are all over the world great video
Thank you
Marie Bartholdi!
Another class vid Martin.
Thank you
I saw some perch in the river a few days ago!
Great, am afraid I dont know my fish
First fish I ever caught :D
Another brilliant video martin.
Thanks Chris
Wonder how silted up the medlock is .. I know from my days that Bolton had the little river side "Door ways and windows" Also there seems to be the same in stockportt near the Asda .. these could have been basement level windows and the like maybe ?
I think over the past two hundred years its level has significantly heightened as can be demonstrated by Dukes tunnel. I think the cause was cinders dumped in the river
A well put together video. Thanks guys 👍👍😎
Thank you David
I wonder, does the saying “leg it” as in run away quickly come from these low canal tunnels?
PS. If anyone is giving a thumbs down to this could you please leave a comment why? What were you expecting and how were your expectations not met?
Lol we used to say that all the time as kids leg it. 😂.
@@chucky2316 So did we..... when your mate did something idiotic........... "leg it"
@@siypic another one was walking up to strangers and saying you dropped you're gay card lol
it just comes from using your legs lol
Brilliant as always 👍👍
Thank you 👍
Crazy to think this river would have been the only source of water for the villages that would become Manchester before piped water, and now it's mostly a neglected water passage. ignored but the city folk and authorities. you'd think they would have it cleaned and cleared regularly?
Thank you 👍
It wasn't the only source there's a number of rivers that got the same culverting. That IS clean (relatively) you should have seen them before😉 Absolute Third World.
@@English_Dawn Sure I meant the only one right there obviously, there are a number of rivers in the city I was referring to just the area they are in. yeah it runs clean I can see that, again I was referring to the clutter and some of the silt, you'd think they would clear that occasionally?
@@Thunderer0872 You are right for a normal city or town. Problem is Mcr wasn't. It was Third World in it's rivers and open space. 30 years all its rivers were anaerobic and a dumping ground full of oil-drums and supermarket trolleys. If you had seen it then! Mcr and other Northern cities went South economically during the 1900's. Canals filled in tumbleweed on open space. Gradually Mcr. Council has had to be dragged kicking and screaming into line with what is expected. Mcr. as you will know never bothered investing in an underground and was very business orientated rather than people or the environment. It doesn't have the city-centre green parks London has. Next month sadly is the bicentennial of the "Peterloo Massacre" which was just yards away from Martin's programme.
To see fish in those streams is gobsmacking there's not been fish in them for centuries.
Mcr. is 3rd behind London and Edinburgh for tourism so you can says it's in their interest to clean up as tourists expect higher standards so hopefully they are doing it for environmental, civic, reasons but the fact that money is involved filling hotels, conferences etc it will drag the Council kicking and screaming to do what the rest of us has always wanted as environment was a complete disgrace. Thank you for your concern.🙂
Another fantastic video presented with the usual infectious charm. Love the way that you set what we're seeing today into its historic context. My knowledge of Manchester grows by the week! So the nemesis turned out to be nothing more than a watery alcove! Still it's the discovery that matters. Many thanks and can't wait to see the next instalment of this epic adventure.
Thanks Jack. Yes obviously I wanted an adventure down a tunnel but it is what it is. Bloody filled in 😃
I let out a big "Oh NO" when I saw that the tunnel was filled in. My wife yelled to me from the other room asked what was wrong. I replied, "you would not understand". I then spent the next 5 minutes explaining to her why I was disappointed. She said, "Ah too bad". I knew she would not understand HAHAHA.
Ha, Brilliant Robert 😀
Yes, I have experienced that. They just don't get it.
Great content ......what a downer to see the tunnel silted up .Nice to see running water and fish though.
Thanks Noreen, yes that size of fish was a surprise to me
So... I'm going to ask the obvious question.... what's with the weird flashing lights in the archway you encountered before going into Dukes Tunnel? I suppose you put them in there but why?
Anyway, thanks for another great video! Cheers!
Which bit was that ...?
Foreshadowing
Yep, looks like the US cop car flashing light at a crime scene. XD
@@MartinZero The suspense is killing me :-D
@@MartinZero lose em, or warn.
Such a good series Martin thanks ...
Cheers Rob
Blocked! What a shame; I had visions of you propelling your little boat up the tunnel with your feet on the ceiling - the first person to do it in a century or more!
I would of loved to have done that 😀👍
Yes me too. It would have been great if Martin could have 'legged' in, even just a few metres. Knowing how passionate he is about that particular place, I'm sure it would have been the highlight of all his exploring. I genuinely felt so sorry for him when we saw it had been filled.
Not seen this one yet.
Bedtime viewing for me after work tonight on this new years day 2024
🥂
You need that shovel to find shooters brook and dig deep into the Duke's canal! Thanks again for this fantastic video!
You van help us Daniel 😃
@@MartinZero When can I come?!
Facinating, also no rats around.
No we never saw one Lewis
The little bird 🐦 so cute
Yeah cute pigeon 👍
what a shame all this time of what if and it is filled in. but thank you for all your hard work martin you have been a load of wisdom and I will stay to see what more to come and hi from NewZealand
Thanks Adrian, best regards to New Zealand
If he'd found it open you could have done the Hakka for us.😉
Excellent adventure. Thanks.
Thank you 👍
Absolutely love these videos, from a fellow North Mancunian it is a joy to see fish & wildlife repopulating our once appallingly polluted rivers. Great content Martin, smashed it!!!
Fantastic,
Another great video Martin.
Thanks Paul
brilliant video
Another awesome video mom very good it was a neat trick with the boat it's about it's all so thin you know I do believe there might be another way mistreat level but it doesn't mean it's not filled in diva maybe someday you'll find your way in then you can put that one to rest how good luck on your next one I'll be waiting for it
Thanks Phil
Another great video! Interesting to see the old pictures with the hanging toilets over the river!
Thanks very much Sam
So cuted the tunnel was filled up but still awesome
Yeah me to, never mind and thank you
Fantastic instalment 👍👍
Thanks Jay
Once again great stuff.
Thank you
Excellent Martin.
Thank you
LOL...that was the shortest rafting journey I’ve ever seen!