As a studio engineer, I always felt that "Leftoverture" by Kansas had the most balanced blend of instruments I've ever heard. But yes, the first BOSTON album is up there. (And Close to the Edge isn't bad).
Hi Ron, Just wanted to say thank you so much for the lead on the Friday Music pressing of the Boston album. I was able to pick up a copy on Discogs. You were 100% on this one sounds great. Love the channel and thanks for the education. Stay well!
Happy to say I own almost all of these except for the jazz titles! Not into jazz enough to justify the purchases. But just to let you know that there’s plenty of MoFi titles with the “Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab” banner that sound fantastic and definitely better than original pressings. Superfly and a handful of the Dylan titles for sure do and also it doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t the OG tape. Sometimes that type of information can’t be 100% verified so they don’t use the OMR banner unless it has been. For example the rocktober release of Electric Warrior by T. Rex and the recent MoFi release are from the same source according to what I read on the Steve Hoffman forums but the Rhino claims OG tape, while the MoFi uses the MFSL banner. It also might make sense that sometimes at this points copy or safety tape might better the OG tape if it’s a record that has been pressed a lot.
some years ago i bought a lot of records from blue note catalog but i was looking for old recordings from artists i enjoyed listening and bought some that were there and i was curious to know them better ,normally 40´s to 50´s and some early 60´s recordings
Ron you pulled some winners especially the Pink Floyd Dark aside the mastering is awesome. I agree those Tone Poets are the best of the best in jazz. That Joni Mitchell Court and Spark I spin often cut by RTI Chris Bellman I also have Hejira man the mastering top notch.
Beach Boys - Pets Sounds is crazy, Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark, Stevie Wonder anything, Marvin Gaye- What’s Going On and of course Steely Dan Aja which EVERYONE uses to tune there sound system to. Any Keith Jarret and John Coltrane also….To name a few for best sound quality no matter what label!
Ron, I just ordered the AP Doors LA Woman. I have a several ORG pressings including the Nirvana titles and they sound killer. Glad you showed the Rhino RTI’s. I have a lot of those titles. They sound excellent and are affordable if still in print. Thanks For sharing your collection with us. - Zach
Most welcome Zach glad you enjoyed the video. It is my pleasure sharing my Insight into these great records I know you will enjoy the AP doors LA woman that is my favorite also I'm glad to hear you got a lot of those rhino RTIs some of the best records ever made for the money cheers Ron
Hi Ron. Not just quality pressings, but great albums. These pressings also act as a dependable album guide for people wanting to investigate an artist or group. I love MOV. Have many of their records. Not a bad album in this bunch. Have a great weekend. -Jeff
Love Blood Sweat and Tears’ two....’Three’ is also quite good ....Good to see ‘Tea for the Tillerman’ and what looks like a mint copy of ‘Axis Bold as Love’...I also like all the early Chicago albums ..speaking of ‘Alice in Chains’ ..I had the opportunity to see them live in the early nineties...great heavy sounding band.. Thanks again Ron..
Hey Ron, a couple of serious questions for you... I have a Fluance RT81 turntable with an Audio Technica AT95E moving magnet cartridge/stylus (that came with the turntable). I can't afford a more expensive turntable just yet. If I were to upgrade the cartridge, like before the end of next year, what would you recommend? Also, I have only played records graded very good to mint, with most of my used records being very good plus, on this turntable. If I clean a record thoroughly, and it does not skip or have any deep scratches, would a record graded 'good plus' damage the stylus? Just a side note: I went ahead and pre-ordered GIMME SOME TRUTH in the deluxe 4 vinyl lp set, instead of the digital version with hi-res 5.1 and Atmos. If nothing else, I think it will appreciate in value over the years more so than the CD set, if I keep the records in pristine condition. I think I made the right choice on that.
Nagaoka mp-110 my friend Ian at hifinews channel is the best watch his videos. main thing is you want clean records you may want to avoid records with deep scratches that cause loud clicking th-cam.com/video/E_98fKQtuhs/w-d-xo.html
@@RocknRonni After watching Ian's videos, I'm saving up for a Rega RP-1 and the Nagaoka MP-110. I also liked and subscribed to his channel. Again, thanks!
try an analogue productions reissue and you will change your mind guaranteed because this type of reissue its another original remaster from the original Tape but done to a much higher standard
@@RocknRonni i got one as a present at 1985, ma girlfriend bring me from Berlin, and i was knocked out of the saddle.... especially the "WINTER ROSE" ....
very informative Ron so looks like my piggy bank will be raided again. I'm sure your version of Zep 4 is way better than Jimmy Page's remastering efforts. I know most people won't have heard of the Ozric Tentacles but in case someone has i highly recommend Ed Wynne's remastering work on the band's back catalogue. Thanks again for posting Ron.
I have many of the Miles Davis Mofi and Quality records issues of his albums. I have about 6 of the Tone Poets and they all sound fantastic and packaging is the best ive seen. I have a Classic Records pressing of Roll Call, i bet the Music Matters sounds amazing. You have a little flub up in the video your Zeppelin test pressing is made by Classic Records not Quality Pressings. I didn't kniw Classic issued that Norah Jones LP I have the Quality Records edition of ut and it does sound superb flawless.
sorry it is not a test pressing that would be sweet, it is one of 4 records from the classic Records 45 rpm clarity vinyl red box. Nora Jones Classic Records 2002 Bernie Grundman BG in dead wax. As you know AP bought Classic records and most likely used the classic records stampers. so happy you Liked the video Cheers Ron
@@RocknRonni Sorry i got confused. Yes AP did buy Classic and we benefited from that since they have their stampers. I don't know if you enjoy John Coltrane? Quality Records Pressings is going to issue audiophile editions of Love Supreme Lp and Ballads! I might get one of these if my wallet doesn't have a hole burnt in it when this release comes out.
the Doors and those after being sick and waiting to die , Cat Stevens released some magnific records in early 70´s, i have them all, including my Budah and the chocolate box, the last i bought, after the jazz records and blues except love over gold that i have but don´t like are all must have records as they were the best while growing up, well most of them, you showed two led zeppelin 4 ,one with cover other without, why?Nevermind i heard the cd and sounded bad to me after maybe more than 20 years a friend ofered me his record ,i couldn´t believe how good it sounded as all instruments and voice sound like instruments ,the cd as a poor sound, Are you buying all records again , there are many old ones that the original sounded perfect, maybe the older ones you had were not in good condition
@6:48 -- That "ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDING" heading is meaningless. Countless pressing, with that heading, sound between ordinary and awful. Mobil Fidelity Sound Labs might use the original master recordings (just like any other studio might do), and then then equalize it and compress it and lord knows what else they do, and the result is a sonic mess. They did occasionally get one right (even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut). I gave up on their label, decades ago. I stopped throwing away my hard earned money. However, I understand that they now use DSD (pulse density modulated) versions of the original masters (who knows which masters?), and they have a much better hit/miss ratio. Note that, although it can be beneficial to seek out content that is close to master tape, it can still sound wrong, due to the master tape sounding wrong. If you played the master tape, it too will sound wrong. Record companies are routinely going back to the initial capture tapes (the tapes made from the microphone feeds) and creating new masters. If they do a good job mixing at mastering from those initial capture tapes, then their new master (or their new "re-master") will sound great. Alas, the studios screw them up all the time, too. And when the studios release a re-master of an album, they are admitting (without admitting) that their first mastering job was bad (or not that good). Hence, the reason for their re-master. And they even release another re-master after they already released a re-master. So what went wrong with the first re-master? Part of it is just to get folks to keep re-purchasing the same albums. But nearly all re-masters have worse problems than the original masters. I believe that the issues at the studios are that the staff either does not care, does not have a good ear, loves "loudness", loves exaggerated frequencies, and does not use high-end speakers. I do not believe that studio personnel have ever heard a high-end stereo, or even know which brands manufacturer high-end speakers and associated gear. So because the studio personnel never heard such stereos, they are going by the type of sound they grew up with (it is familiar to their ears). If they make a great master, that sounds fantastic on a high-end stereo, then that master will make any stereo, at any price point, sound much better. Some studio engineers are fantastic. But most are incompetent. Nothing else can explain why so much of their work sounds between awful and decent -- and that to-die-for sound quality is a rarity. We should not have countless music lovers running around trying to find the better sounding releases. They should all sound great. We all continually hunt for the gems, precisely because there are oceans of bad releases that were put out for public consumption (and it still continues, today -- and it has gotten worse). @22:08 -- Dark Side Of The Moon. I respectfully disagree with our host, that just about any version will sound good. Only one release of that album sounds great. It is why it sells for $2,000 if you can find one for sale. Lastly, even if you find the right release (the right stamper codes for a particular pressing), that only gives you a shot at outstanding sound quality. But if you do not have the right stamper, then you have zero chance at having outstanding sound quality. You might love how your pressings sound (even if you do not have the right stampers). But if you heard it with one of the white hots stampers, it would be an ear opening experience. Great video. I like our host's taste in music. Many of those albums do have fantastic sound quality. My experience has been that for a few of his examples, other labels (with the right stamper codes and a little luck) are a better choice.
This video is about how to tell if you're getting a good record. what do you look for? Also had some outstanding top 10 sounding records. I'd like to have your list please. So I can get a little closer Thanks for watching always appreciate feedback ❤️
This is a great video Ron. Its like taking a course on vinyl. I enjoy your channel and the information you provide. Keep up the great work!
As a studio engineer, I always felt that "Leftoverture" by Kansas had the most balanced blend of instruments I've ever heard. But yes, the first BOSTON album is up there. (And Close to the Edge isn't bad).
Excellent video, Ron, I appreciate all the information you share about the best-sounding records and labels. Much appreciated.
Cheers, Tom
Interesting to learn about the different pressings, had no idea. This is a whole new level 😃
Hi Ron, Just wanted to say thank you so much for the lead on the Friday Music pressing of the Boston album. I was able to pick up a copy on Discogs. You were 100% on this one sounds great. Love the channel and thanks for the education. Stay well!
Great information and video Ron, I'm a big fan of the Analogue productions pressings and Music on vinyl.
Happy to say I own almost all of these except for the jazz titles! Not into jazz enough to justify the purchases. But just to let you know that there’s plenty of MoFi titles with the “Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab” banner that sound fantastic and definitely better than original pressings. Superfly and a handful of the Dylan titles for sure do and also it doesn’t necessarily mean it isn’t the OG tape. Sometimes that type of information can’t be 100% verified so they don’t use the OMR banner unless it has been. For example the rocktober release of Electric Warrior by T. Rex and the recent MoFi release are from the same source according to what I read on the Steve Hoffman forums but the Rhino claims OG tape, while the MoFi uses the MFSL banner. It also might make sense that sometimes at this points copy or safety tape might better the OG tape if it’s a record that has been pressed a lot.
some years ago i bought a lot of records from blue note catalog but i was looking for old recordings from artists i enjoyed listening and bought some that were there and i was curious to know them better ,normally 40´s to 50´s and some early 60´s recordings
Ron you pulled some winners especially the Pink Floyd Dark aside the mastering is awesome. I agree those Tone Poets are the best of the best in jazz. That Joni Mitchell Court and Spark I spin often cut by RTI Chris Bellman I also have Hejira man the mastering top notch.
Beach Boys - Pets Sounds is crazy, Joni Mitchell - Court and Spark, Stevie Wonder anything, Marvin Gaye- What’s Going On and of course Steely Dan Aja which EVERYONE uses to tune there sound system to. Any Keith Jarret and John Coltrane also….To name a few for best sound quality no matter what label!
Love your videos, Ron. I learn a lot!
thank you appreciate you encouraging words
Ron, I just ordered the AP Doors LA Woman. I have a several ORG pressings including the Nirvana titles and they sound killer. Glad you showed the Rhino RTI’s. I have a lot of those titles. They sound excellent and are affordable if still in print. Thanks For sharing your collection with us. - Zach
Most welcome Zach glad you enjoyed the video. It is my pleasure sharing my Insight into these great records I know you will enjoy the AP doors LA woman that is my favorite also I'm glad to hear you got a lot of those rhino RTIs some of the best records ever made for the money cheers Ron
Hi Ron. Not just quality pressings, but great albums. These pressings also act as a dependable album guide for people wanting to investigate an artist or group. I love MOV. Have many of their records. Not a bad album in this bunch. Have a great weekend. -Jeff
Thanks for stopping by Jeff and this great feedback much appreciated
Thank you very much for sharing your report mister Beaudry ! This is invaluable.
Some very nice suggestions. Well done.
Love Blood Sweat and Tears’ two....’Three’ is also quite good ....Good to see ‘Tea for the Tillerman’ and what looks like a mint copy of ‘Axis Bold as Love’...I also like all the early Chicago albums ..speaking of ‘Alice in Chains’ ..I had the opportunity to see them live in the early nineties...great heavy sounding band..
Thanks again Ron..
Thanks for stopping by Harry sounds like you got a lot of great records there buddy
Hey Ron, a couple of serious questions for you... I have a Fluance RT81 turntable with an Audio Technica AT95E moving magnet cartridge/stylus (that came with the turntable). I can't afford a more expensive turntable just yet. If I were to upgrade the cartridge, like before the end of next year, what would you recommend? Also, I have only played records graded very good to mint, with most of my used records being very good plus, on this turntable. If I clean a record thoroughly, and it does not skip or have any deep scratches, would a record graded 'good plus' damage the stylus? Just a side note: I went ahead and pre-ordered GIMME SOME TRUTH in the deluxe 4 vinyl lp set, instead of the digital version with hi-res 5.1 and Atmos. If nothing else, I think it will appreciate in value over the years more so than the CD set, if I keep the records in pristine condition. I think I made the right choice on that.
Nagaoka mp-110 my friend Ian at hifinews channel is the best watch his videos.
main thing is you want clean records
you may want to avoid records with deep scratches that cause loud clicking
th-cam.com/video/E_98fKQtuhs/w-d-xo.html
@@RocknRonni Thanks for the advice! Much appreciated!!
@@RocknRonni After watching Ian's videos, I'm saving up for a Rega RP-1 and the Nagaoka MP-110. I also liked and subscribed to his channel. Again, thanks!
great collection Ron!
Thanks for your pressing recommendations. The question we always have is "How does it sound."
Yeah and we have to learn the hard way lots at times hope the video is helpful thanks for stopping by Glad you Liked the video
I always prefer the original press over any reissues.
try an analogue productions reissue and you will change your mind guaranteed because this type of reissue its another original remaster from the original Tape but done to a much higher standard
Some great labels Ron 🙏 thanks for sharing..
Agree on the Tone Poets - will be worth a lot someday :)
Tank You! Excellent and valuable advice!!
music matters and tone poet. hard to beat. the best of the best.
Great video ron.
45 maxi singles are the Best sounding ones
time ou by dave bruback quartet is a must have record if one likes jazz music
have you have a chanse to compere "BAND ON THE RUN" Japanese and European pressings ?
Previous pressing was a USA original press and I like the Fidelity on the Japanese pressing much more Thanks for asking
@@RocknRonni i got one as a present at 1985, ma girlfriend bring me from Berlin,
and i was knocked out of the saddle.... especially the "WINTER ROSE" ....
very informative Ron so looks like my piggy bank will be raided again. I'm sure your version of Zep 4 is way better than Jimmy Page's remastering efforts. I know most people won't have heard of the Ozric Tentacles but in case someone has i highly recommend Ed Wynne's remastering work on the band's back catalogue. Thanks again for posting Ron.
The only Ozric tentacles that I had was on CD
I have many of the Miles Davis Mofi and Quality records issues of his albums. I have about 6 of the Tone Poets and they all sound fantastic and packaging is the best ive seen. I have a Classic Records pressing of Roll Call, i bet the Music Matters sounds amazing. You have a little flub up in the video your Zeppelin test pressing is made by Classic Records not Quality Pressings. I didn't kniw Classic issued that Norah Jones LP I have the Quality Records edition of ut and it does sound superb flawless.
sorry it is not a test pressing that would be sweet, it is one of 4 records from the classic Records 45 rpm clarity vinyl red box.
Nora Jones Classic Records 2002 Bernie Grundman BG in dead wax.
As you know AP bought Classic records and most likely used the classic records stampers.
so happy you Liked the video Cheers Ron
@@RocknRonni Sorry i got confused. Yes AP did buy Classic and we benefited from that since they have their stampers. I don't know if you enjoy John Coltrane? Quality Records Pressings is going to issue audiophile editions of Love Supreme Lp and Ballads! I might get one of these if my wallet doesn't have a hole burnt in it when this release comes out.
the Doors and those after being sick and waiting to die , Cat Stevens released some magnific records in early 70´s, i have them all, including my Budah and the chocolate box, the last i bought, after the jazz records and blues except love over gold that i have but don´t like are all must have records as they were the best while growing up, well most of them, you showed two led zeppelin 4 ,one with cover other without, why?Nevermind i heard the cd and sounded bad to me after maybe more than 20 years a friend ofered me his record ,i couldn´t believe how good it sounded as all instruments and voice sound like instruments ,the cd as a poor sound, Are you buying all records again , there are many old ones that the original sounded perfect, maybe the older ones you had were not in good condition
@@RUfromthe40s some records sound better than others. some records are better made than others. Thanks for your comments much appreciated.
@@RocknRonni you´re welcome ,keep releasing interesting videos , there´s a lot more to say , congratulations
Seem like more than 10
Yeah clickbait that's how I roll bro,
but lots of good information.
Hope you enjoyed the video.
@6:48 -- That "ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDING" heading is meaningless.
Countless pressing, with that heading, sound between ordinary and awful.
Mobil Fidelity Sound Labs might use the original master recordings (just like any other studio might do), and then then equalize it and compress it and lord knows what else they do, and the result is a sonic mess.
They did occasionally get one right (even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut).
I gave up on their label, decades ago. I stopped throwing away my hard earned money.
However, I understand that they now use DSD (pulse density modulated) versions of the original masters (who knows which masters?), and they have a much better hit/miss ratio.
Note that, although it can be beneficial to seek out content that is close to master tape, it can still sound wrong, due to the master tape sounding wrong. If you played the master tape, it too will sound wrong.
Record companies are routinely going back to the initial capture tapes (the tapes made from the microphone feeds) and creating new masters.
If they do a good job mixing at mastering from those initial capture tapes, then their new master (or their new "re-master") will sound great. Alas, the studios screw them up all the time, too.
And when the studios release a re-master of an album, they are admitting (without admitting) that their first mastering job was bad (or not that good). Hence, the reason for their re-master.
And they even release another re-master after they already released a re-master. So what went wrong with the first re-master?
Part of it is just to get folks to keep re-purchasing the same albums. But nearly all re-masters have worse problems than the original masters.
I believe that the issues at the studios are that the staff either does not care, does not have a good ear, loves "loudness", loves exaggerated frequencies, and does not use high-end speakers.
I do not believe that studio personnel have ever heard a high-end stereo, or even know which brands manufacturer high-end speakers and associated gear.
So because the studio personnel never heard such stereos, they are going by the type of sound they grew up with (it is familiar to their ears).
If they make a great master, that sounds fantastic on a high-end stereo, then that master will make any stereo, at any price point, sound much better.
Some studio engineers are fantastic. But most are incompetent. Nothing else can explain why so much of their work sounds between awful and decent -- and that to-die-for sound quality is a rarity.
We should not have countless music lovers running around trying to find the better sounding releases. They should all sound great.
We all continually hunt for the gems, precisely because there are oceans of bad releases that were put out for public consumption (and it still continues, today -- and it has gotten worse).
@22:08 -- Dark Side Of The Moon.
I respectfully disagree with our host, that just about any version will sound good.
Only one release of that album sounds great. It is why it sells for $2,000 if you can find one for sale.
Lastly, even if you find the right release (the right stamper codes for a particular pressing), that only gives you a shot at outstanding sound quality.
But if you do not have the right stamper, then you have zero chance at having outstanding sound quality.
You might love how your pressings sound (even if you do not have the right stampers). But if you heard it with one of the white hots stampers, it would be an ear opening experience.
Great video. I like our host's taste in music. Many of those albums do have fantastic sound quality. My experience has been that for a few of his examples, other labels (with the right stamper codes and a little luck) are a better choice.
NOT EVEN CLOSE RON
This video is about how to tell if you're getting a good record. what do you look for? Also had some outstanding top 10 sounding records. I'd like to have your list please. So I can get a little closer Thanks for watching always appreciate feedback ❤️
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