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This is what the Goku Black arc should’ve been, going through all these timelines, a way to make GT canon, a way to introduce new forms, new versions of characters. Genius
this is random but is the dragon ball fandom good, bad, or something in between? im from the roblox fanbase but i like to visit other fanbases like this one
I find it funny how recently in FighterZ Black says that he finds Super Saiyan 4 primitive and that he would never go to the lengths of reaching that form himself. As always, amazing work!
After having his ally sealed away and almost getting merc'd by 3 people at once, he realized that unless he lowered his standards, he was doomed to fail
I think it's actually after the goku gt fight... Because he said: something this timeline "again" something I might be wrong though.... If not Broly ssj5???
Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling* THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?!
Imagine Goku black telling the canon Vegeta this: Goku black: “Oh Vegeta? In another timeline, you kicked my ass. But you won’t be doing the same to me this time.” Vegeta: “Did my other self at least did it really cool?” Goku black: “...*sigh* Yes.” Vegeta: “I regret nothing if I die, Kakarot.”
And they make very convincing performance. Goku Black always seemed to really be getting into the saiyan mannerisms. He always seemed a lot more saiyan like than other saiyans we've seen. While Vegetas bravado always seemed through the roof, where since he attained the likes of godhood he's been more refined with it like displayed here.
Well, Goku Black was actually still learning, and he robbed a body from a Goku that didn’t had zenkais anymore, which made Goku Black learn a lot of the Saiyans and always keeping that in mind, since Goku and Vegeta were born like that, they didn’t went to know more about their races so, let’s say Goku Black went for the easy way here since he just had to learn and almost die and that’s how he got stronger, Goku and Vegeta can go the same way without zenkais tho
Not really pretending to be a Saiyan he is one and Vegeta is not a god he just has the ability to use a form that can combat gods, kaioken could be used as an example.
So, Goku Black's powers include: -Ki Manipulation -Ki Decoy -Healing -Super Saiyan (Mortal Route) -Super Saiyan (Divine Route) -Kaioken -"British Accent" Did I miss anything?
12:48 Hyourinjutsu is a genius. By leaving the events prior to this fight ambiguous to the viewer, we can imagine what's going through Vegeta's head right before he starts his monologue. I like to imagine that it took quite a bit of convincing from Goku’s side in order to get Vegeta on board with ascending to god (rather than how events went in the movie). So whenever Black tells him he can’t win, he flashes back to that conversation he had with Goku. Goku putting his faith in one of his past enemies - someone who basically turned cities of his home to glass - to defend the place they now both live. I feel like this would definitely be enough of an emotional nudge to usher Vegeta into ascended God form. Either that or Hyourinjutsu just wanted some flare to add to the battle. Either/or is a win/win for me!
It was pretty much like anime . He did say a couple of things more like they both worked hard for it and black stole goku's fruits of training Basically it was " YOU FILTHY BODY SNATCHER ! "
I think you've missed some details that imply he's not only more cooperative than ours, but outright stronger as well. Let's start with the obvious, he's using techniques he shouldn't have access to, like hellzone grenade and those surprise ki blasts from the ground, piccolo and Goku moves. Not only that, but he and Goku were fighting beerus in the flashbacks, something that doesn't happen in either version of that fight in the original timeline. This Vegeta therefore is less arrogant, and willing to accept help... But then why didn't they use Goku for the ritual? And why wasn't he in ssj3 fighting beerus. Call it a hunch, but given he has more training partners due to cooperating with other's and the fact Goku was on earth, there's a chance this Vegeta is outright stronger than that goku, and even the original timeline Goku by this point in the story. I mean he was already being debatably stronger in the og timeline with less, so why wouldn't this Vegeta be stronger than that one?
The stories you've painted, giving Vegeta a much-needed win and improving upon a very unexplored character in Goku black. Creating suspense for the next episode, all the while giving an earth-shattering fight that leaves heaven breathless, this was a masterpiece in the truest sense of the word.
@@Bluesit32 Black achieved his goal, that's true, but he did that by losing the fight. Vegeta would have probably killed him right there if he hadn't retreated.
To Hyourinjutsu. Just being frank here , your what ifs are THE most entertaining thing to consume compared to the vast arrays of DBZ fan creations that exist out there. (Believe me there's a lot) From Fanfictions, to fan-animation, abridged series , live-action creation and even games i have consumed a lot. All of them are great homages to this franchise but they never elevated the franchise itself (Team Four Star DBZA being the only exception) . Point is, your work on these what ifs has been fascinating to watch over the years , seen them grown in quality and now with this narrative hook to it i can confidently say that every DBZ fan should watch your what ifs to get the full DBZ experience. Your what ifs in my eyes genuinely elevates the franchise. I haven't felt this giddy to watch something DBZ related since the Broly movie two years ago. Do not stop with this Goku Black story, its at the best part right now and i can't wait to see what happens next. Keep doing this, your work is unparalleled and unique even among the sprite animation sphere. I can write a lengthy essay on what makes your work great but i'll do that on a different day Thank you (side note:- This was supposed to be a Twitter dm but it seems you do not have a twitter acc so resorted to TH-cam comments)
@@darkdevil6508 It looks great mate and its narrative pacing is developing .. it didn't have one previously . Its still wacky as any fan made series tho
13:57 Glimpse of Super Saiyan Blue Evolution. I’m noticing this after watching this video 4 times. I swear the level of detail put into this animation is insane
Only toriyama writes it man. Oh yea i forgot toyotaro but he can sometimes make it shit Edit 11/02/21: Looking back over this comment a year later, I can see where 6ou are coming from. These people however are only fan fiction writers. Since they dont necessarily have rules limiting them on what they can or cant add, they can do whatever they want. They tend to always have some flaw. I will admit I've never been this intrigued by anything dragon ball in a while. Since broly at least. Dragon ball deliverance was heat. I always appreciate the offical one though even if it's hot buns.
not gonna lie, together with his personality, Goku Black's journey to get stronger is pretty dope. almost makes me wanna root for him. oh, and super saiyan god evolution makes total sense btw.
Y'know the more I think about it, the more I realize Hyuorinjutsu is a master of very tiny details. Like I feel when future Gohan's theme starts playing it is a callback as to what he said before he was killed by the Androids and Goku Black in this what-if series. That Vegeta is the "someone stronger who will take my place" and for that I deeply respect Hyourinjutsu for that. Thanks a ton for this wonderful series and keep up the good work 👍
I like to think that Vegeta from this timeline got, for the lack of a better word, "inspired" by Black going Rose for those few seconds at the end, letting him know that an SSJ + SSG combination is possible, and he eventually reached Blue on his own. I mean come on, he even gets a glimpse of it during the fight itself!
Golden Frieza about to get clobbered by an early Blue Evolved Vegeta. And whatever the Zamasu of this timeline decides to do, I imagine Vegeta will be pretty quick to put him down.
@@juliane.mfarias9285 If Vegeta stays ahead of his Goku, likely yeah. I just imagine Vegeta seeing a doppleganger in the same attire as the Goku one attacking him, and pulverizing him on the spot.
@@gabrielcote8211 Imagine: Future Bulma died and the last thing she saw was her beloved husband's face. And Trunks saw it happen and had to live the post apocaliptic future against someone looking just like his father.
@@juliane.mfarias9285 Woo boy. Imagine Goku's rage upon hearing of Goten and Chi-Chi's demise, but applied on a Vegeta who knows the Evolved state. Vegeta Black is about to die horribly.
This battle was animated so good. You can see why it took so long. Not only does the animation have different features and qualities to it but it's actually developing into a really good story. This is awesome, I will be here for the next one
I think it’s safe to say Hyourinjutsu’s Goku Black is an absolute genius. He is constantly flying under everyone’s radar, learning new skills and transformations, growing stronger. All while strategically time hopping across the multiverse just to find good sparring partners. This guy is a psychopathic chess master!
This would actually be a good storyline in Super if its executed right. Obviously Black is gone but they could do this with the first time traveler they talked about in the series.
Honestly what's the Endgame. This Goku black is possibly the most dangerous villain in any Db fan-story ever. Plus the script and the details are just surperb!!!
"unlike you, who simply stole the fruits of his training" -learns SSJ4 -leans how to use godly ki -trains to be able to use kaioken with SSJ -creates SSJG rose -lean how to use ki sword technique tbh he did train a lot
Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling* THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?! Time stamps on that video: 6:50 and 7:24
@@demoknight. Buddy, it appeared on 0:17 lol, and I'm sure he gave us a warning back then, because we would know the result of this fight through the difference of power showed back on those days between Black and Vegeta's SSJ God evolution.
As a Vegeta fan, You get a Sub, cuz you showed my boy Vegeta some love, But oh who am I kidding how could he not get a sub for his work? Just amazing dude
Black is not holding anything back, he’s pulling out all the stops, he is determined to take Goku’s and by extension the saiyan race’s potential power to its logical extreme and it seems that nothing short of a God Of Destruction might stop him, and eventually not even that. Hell, Black might actually try to go after Toppo and Jiren eventually. Like that other guy said: he’s actually trying to speedrun to Super Saiyan Rosé 4.
Everyone talking about Goku Black but Can we take a minute to appreciate the timeline he's in, where Vegeta becomes the first SSG? It's such an amazing idea and I'd adore to see more done with it!
@@region7rra881 I mean vegeta’s ssb is a little stronger than Goku’s, keep in mind Vegeta got a 9 month hesdstart to Whis’s training without Goku knowing
i think we're also forgetting that Vegeta now has Evolution god as well, which while still weaker than blue, would set the seeds for Vegeta to get Evolution blue *far* earlier than normal, with Goku himself possibly going for it as well now that he knows such a thing exists...especially since Vegeta ALSO got an early heads up on the idea to combine God with ssj thanks to seeing Black do it.
Dude, listen, I can't even handle these episodes anymore, they're that good. The script, the direction, the animation, everything is so spot-on and incredible. You're too underrated, man, you genuinely deserve millions of subs for the quality you put out! Love from Pakistan (just so you know you have fans all over the world)!
Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling* THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?!
@@demoknight. Yeah, he stated that the animation will come after. Those who watched the power scaling video already KNEW he was gonna make this animation.
@@demoknight. I mean it was already planned and announced back then, it's not like he keeps the projects he's working on a secret. It's even revealed in this video what the next what-if battle is going to be, which is Xeno Vegito SSJ4 VS Gogeta SSB i believe.
@@simplysupreme1030 not really. Remember Goku: Xeno in SSJ4 who has had God Ki before lost to post TOP SSGSS Goku. So as much I love the Xeno characters and backstory I don't think they would win due to what has been said in Heroes.
Personally the only bad part of the Goku Black Arc was the infinite zamasu ending, like they had a awesome ending with Future Trunks and the Spirit Sword and they ruined it by adding that.
Hyourinjutsu is a legend making all these hyped fights and having obvious power scaling and badass music i really hope this channel wil go on for many years it is a great channel. Respect Hyourinjutsu
@Embodiment of destruction so your saying he would be a power hungry monster that travels through space and time to fight strong opponents and cheats death, and be a man who only strives for power over everything else if he was a saiyan? Unlikely
Just a little tid bit I liked in the beginning. When Goku Black launches the two cars and Vegeta catches them and saves the people in them, really shows how much his character has grown. He may not be the Prince or Possible King of Planet Vegeta anymore. But it shows he's definitely found a planet he sees that's worth ruling as the Prince of, albeit us weaklings earthlings can be seen as to him sometimes. It's a nice detail I noticed that made me go "Vegeta kick this poser's ass and SHOW HIM who exactly he's testing the patience of!"
Honestly Hyourin, I noticed how good Goku black felt about beating Vegeta in SSG. Now, I don't know if you're THAT good in detail, but I vaguely remember in the manga that Vegeta in the future was beating Goku black with SSG and rapidly switching to Blue in between intervals, which made Black completely furious. If you planned that intentionally, then my respect for you has increased ten-fold!
To be fair it'd piss me off too if I'm using a much more powerful form and I can't even see him changing to Blue but he's still kicking my ass. It's like being on a motorcycle and still losing in a race to the guy on the Bicycle. I imagine that was also an ulterior motive for getting 4 as well. He wanted to flex on Vegeta the same way Vegeta flexed on him.
First, I love how Goku Black is just hopping across timelines, making all the fights canon to the Hyourinjustu Multiverse. Second, with all the explanations, it really makes me think. These fights really be making sense, more so than some DB episodes. Awesome work.
I still find it interesting that Heroes ended up exploring Goku Black tapping into the true power of Saiyan Biology like how you did. Though I do think you've been handling it a lot better so far. I am...Unendingly curious what the next What-if featuring your Goku Black would be, though if I were to through out a guess: Goku Black & Baby Vegeta V.S. Xeno Goku & Xeno Vegeta (Mutated SSJRKK Baby Vegetto Black vs SFPSJ4LB Vegetto/Gogetta)
Black: How did I get knocked down by a plumber? I can fly! Also Black: Ah, I see you're a dark version of that Pit fellow, Pit Black I presume? Dark Pit: No....just Dark Pit.
Dj Scout I mean if they did then there would be no story, either super 17 or most likely baby (since he realized where that power came from) would just end it then and there with the tail, everyone dies, and leaves a bitter taste in our mouth for such a anti-climatic ending. That’s probably the reason
@@blankblank1257 It wouldnt. SSB is x50 stronger than SSJ GOD, ssb evolution is at least x20 stronger than ssb so ssg evolution should be x20 ssg as well. 50>20
What I like about your ideas and writing is that it makes super saiyan 4 more interesting. The way you talk and think about the transformation doesn't make it sound like just another transformation but what the super saiyan form was meant to truly be. You make it seem like the super saiyan 4 form is the actual TRUEST form of SUPER SAIYAN.
Luis Espinoza Before anyone here throws shit at me saying the anime is shit , yeah, it is , but it’s better than the story of this videos , don’t mistake me they are fine , they look cool , but the story has so much fanservice , and the logic here is messed up , and I know it’s a fan story , not supposed to take it seriously , but that is it’s main flaw , it brings in sooo much concepts , it kinda feels like Dragon Ball Heroes , but a little bit better
Jesus Christ and yeah , I agree with you , animators are such talented people , like Naotoshi Shida , Onishi and others that worked on Super’s staff, yes this videos look cool and my respects to the creator but we can’t compare it to actually drawing and animating things out of scratch
Vegeta: You see imposter, Your not dealing with the average super saiyan god anymo- Black: Bye bitch *Pop* Vegeta: GODDAMNIT, I NEED TO STOP DOING THAT!!!
@@NASALunarLight By accident, and determination lol Does that mean.. Whiss trained Vegeta here? (It's hard to unlock ssjg-ssjb without training, I just say lol)
@@MiraiNoDame no vegeta was the first ssg in this timeline he did the ritual first so goku is the one who needs traning from whis to unlock ssg and ssb
GOD the detail I'm the actual fight moves. Using SPRITES, somehow BEATING the animation. Truly. Bravo. "But this only works if I endure a great stress in battle." That was thrown in SO last minute. *laughs* One sentence away from "Holy Shit, GB really figured out a game breaking hack. Damage YOURSELF for Zenkai." Although...that IS what body builders do, so...not REALLY so far fetched... OH MY GOD VEGETA'S HAIR. That was the sickest, most subtle artistic touch I've ever seen in any DBZ, official OR fan made. Alright. Jesus. You win. I'll Patreon. Would have proffered to donate here, but that's...that's just art.
Vegeta: cuts off the tail making it impossible to access 3 sayian transformations, significantly hinders the base power and makes it much harder to control the normal sayian forms Black: all according to plan, hahaha
@@viciousaidan2613 we don't even know how he grew it back before lol. If him did it one time, he can do more. Goku Black: hey Vegeta, i came back and with my tail too... and a friend. *Baby Vegeta appears with his own white tail* Vegeta: fuck that shit, i just need to cut them again Goku Black: HAHAHA Baby, let's show him our new trick. Taiyoken! *Vegeta gets blind for a while* Black and Baby: FU SION HA! *energy explouds their place* Vegeta: NO NO NO NO NO! Baby Gogeta Black: YES! DIE MORTAL! *destroys Vegeta with a finger*
"I didn't even know an evolution to Super Saiyan God existed" Makes me wonder if we'll ever see the return of SSGSS4 Goku, using the Kaio-Ken to fight against SSJ4 Rosé Evolution Goku Black
That Goku needs an actual fight. The sort of techniques he could pull with that experience and the fact that he was stronger than one of the Gogetas are enough material.
What we can expect from this Goku Black: - unite to Baby Vegeta for a big future plan - regrow his tail again, because he stated it was crutial. Maybe Baby Vegeta could get one too. - try to combine the powers he discovered and learn news like UI I wish he fights against the Super manga Goku that was fighting GT Goku. One after the Moro Saga that haves a tail (a idea he had because of his fight with GT Goku) and a control of UI like manga. It would make a great villain. I also expect then to fight against Beerus as Baby Vegeto Black, the fusion ends, Beerus breaks the potara and they fuse again with the dance, creating Baby Gogeta Black.
@@leirbag1595 yes,like,according to the official power scalling video he is superior to even beerus and he can be even stronger by what we know,since he can use the kaioken x10 or x20,and since he has much more experience than all the other versions of goku we know perharps he can use even greater levels of the kaioken,x30,x40,perharps even x100. if this is not enough,thanks to the battle of baby and black vs broly we know that with the transformation of ssj4 and enough zenkais,one can theorically achieve a ssj5,perharps this goku can achieve it and combine with the godly ki the same way he did with the ssj4. We can go even further and speculate that this goku trained and achieved the evolution forms that vegeta has achieved,and we too have the detail that he did became a kid,so he does not have his full power like his adult form GODAMMIT!!! this goku has an unbeliveable amount of potential
God 4:45 can't stop watching it, so good at how they charge up making it seem like they both equal to each other however, black powers up ever father showing the gap between them. And the music choice was godly
This fight, was totally worth the wait, I loved every second of it and that ending, brilliant, I mean I was already spoiled about this being a sequel to Future Gohan vs Goku Black/prequel to Goku Black & Baby Vegeta vs ssj4 Broly, but I still enjoyed the reveals And the choreography was spectacular, every movement, ever attack, soooooo good Can't wait to see DBH Vegito vs DBS Gogeta
No guys, he went to that timeline first to understand & attain ssj4, then fought ssg Vegeta, then came back and then the events of Goku black & Baby vs Broly happen (for the first time) I know it's confusing, but trust me, Hyourinjutsu has stated that this is a prequel to what if #9
@@luisjorgerestrepomachacado4349 it's an opportunity to give the SSJ4 fans a win, other than the Blue vs 4 Manga gift he did, where his reasoning was that 4 would outlast blue (which I'm not denying, I just found it funny he dedicated a whole video just to talk about it)
I LOVE THIS GOKU BLACK/ZAMASU! Saiyans are naturally power-hungry and battle-thirsty, so we've never truly gotten to see something like a Saiyan Genius. If Bardock lived longer he probably could've been, but this is why I love the concept of Goku Black; a Saiyan wielded by Zamasu gets rid of that pure battle mentality. His end goal isn't just to reach endless power and continuously and become the strongest, that's more or less just his goal by proxy. His true goal is achieving his "Zero Mortals Plan", by having that main goal instilled, he's not held back by the natural Saiyan tendencies of honor and fight-fight-fight, and instead _abuses_ the heck of the fact that he is Saiyan. I love the concept of Goku Black because it provides a Saiyan Genius while _not_ breaking the lore of what a Saiyan is like. Goku Black isn't a "One-of-a-Billion-Special-boy-who-doesn't-want-to-fight" pure Saiyan, but a God abusing the Saiyan to their own desires. Goku Black literally answers _every_ single creative application of what a Saiyan is without being hindered by battle hunger or blood lust. Sure he's still hungry for power, but with his main goal he's much more flexible with his desires and training than that. He may not have honor as a fighter, but damn does he do his homework and exploit Saiyan abilities like an absolute madlad. The animation is stellar! I love how the Ki blasts and attacks are so vibrant and how it feels like every attack does have an impact both on the receiver and the environment around it. Every action, both during non-fight scenes and dialogue/exposition feel meaningful, every action having an equal reaction, the faintest wind ruffling hair, IT'S *GODLIKE!* I'm sure you've already heard this a million times before, but again, I just love everything about the presentation of your sprite battles, especially how you use Ki from different parts of the body. If I had to have a complaint it's that attacks like the Ki Blade and Ki Scythes don't really feel like they have an impact on the opponent like a blade would, it just feels like they're being smacked with blunt bats. That's understandable in my opinion since Goku Black's ki-blades are a unique attack to him and would further display the differences in how GB and Vegeta use their Ki, and that it just allows for more varied scenes to play out. It wouldn't do well for a fight scene for the blades just cut off their limbs, so its understandable that they act the way they are, but it's just irks me slightly. Thank you for gifting us this incredible animation. 11:05 Ki Blade Elbow bro
i was thinking something very similar, he basically is just biohacking saiyan capabilities to his own ends. Vegeta goku and the half breeds did it to a degree with human ki style training(able to take it to the next level that old school pre freiza saiyans never could), but zamasu really accelerated it.
I love the Super Saiyan Blue Evolved parallel, and this fight paralleled Goku vs Baby Vegeta where both kept transforming throughout the battle! This is genius, man! Plus, you have a whole continuity! I LOVE IT :D And they were using cars in battle!!
I love how at 6:03 Vegeta thinks he can turn his back and be absolutely unharmed. Then Zamasu goes Kaioken at 6:05 and all of a sudden it's a problem. Prideful punk gets a wake-up call.
This is BADASS, Hyou made Goku Black turn his scythe into sickles. I love this dude's creativity and style and stories. If only the real Dragonball could do this
Yooo an actual storyline! He just connected lots of plot points just from this one video! Color me reaaaally impressed. Not to mention the beautiful animation. He just gets better and better at animating each video
Almost.... If i'm right it goes like this... First: Goku black VS Gohan Then: Goku black and Baby Vegeta VS Broly ssj4 Now: Goku black VS ssg Vegeta Next: Goku black and Baby Vegeta VS Broly ssj5 (That would certainly be a treat)
Bryan Fisher Yes and no. Goku black and baby Vegeta vs broly happens after SSGE Vegeta. The ending was just showing how he got their. So I doubt another is happening
@@thenewninja6162 in the after Credit goku black said "There it is... I finally got to that certain timeline again" soo.... I think i'm right since in my memory he didn't appear in any gt related fights before what if 9
![[What-If 9] Super Saiyan 4 Broly VS Baby Vegeta and Goku Black / Baby Vegito Black.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XtpIH5ZCgY8/mqdefault.jpg)
![[What-If 9] Super Saiyan 4 Broly VS Baby Vegeta and Goku Black / Baby Vegito Black.](/img/tr.png)
![[What-If 10 MOVIE] Super Goku VS GT Goku (DBS Manga VS DBGT, Super Saiyan Blue VS Super Saiyan 4).](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lMPBH9FVbVQ/mqdefault.jpg)
![[What-If 19 MOVIE] God of Destruction Beerus VS Baby Vegito Black (Goku Black / Baby Vegeta Fusion).](/img/n.gif)
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What If - 7, 9, and 14 are all connected. I wonder whats next for Goku Black
damn boi u doing better than ui fights without ui
I’m so glad I waited for this 🤦🏾♂️
So the timeline as I see it is this: what if #7, what if #14 then what if #9
Goku Black when he enters a new timeline: *I am once again asking for your zenkai support.*
haki
Why do u care
@@vatoluv ?
Yol Riin Lask its quite original
@Yol Riin Lask It seems pretty original to me
Goku Black is the type of guy to use Z capsules to get his health back in Xenoverse 2
Big B R U H moment
And then when you lose he call you noob
This is technically the truth
lmao
imagine not using regen capsules tho
This is what the Goku Black arc should’ve been, going through all these timelines, a way to make GT canon, a way to introduce new forms, new versions of characters. Genius
Indeed. Toei once again drops the ball completely.
We’re still dragging GT into everything I see.
@@michaelmorbillionmorbius3596 D-riding super I see
@@prospeedorginal5371 I acc hate Super and consider it inferior to Z, but srsly no way it is coming back. Leave it for the games.
@@prospeedorginal5371 he still has a point, we don't have to always shoehorn GT into everything
So basically, Goku Black is grinding EXP to fight the boss he's stuck at.
Well, pretty much
Relatable
a shit ton of EXP, he even got a 2x EXP buff activated, I didn't thought it was P2W smh
We've all been there at one point in our life, only to find out you overleveled and can kill the final boss in 1-3 hit..
He's doing all the sidequests
Goku black: “you should’ve went for the head”
Bruh that reference was on point
I hate how good that was.
Underrated comment
Oh he got to it first I was just about to Type that
this is random but is the dragon ball fandom good, bad, or something in between?
im from the roblox fanbase but i like to visit other fanbases like this one
Black: "You can't even fathom my power."
Vegeta: **Begins to roughly fathom his power**
Goku black.exe has stopped working
Goku Black: *Visible Frustration*
I find it funny how recently in FighterZ Black says that he finds Super Saiyan 4 primitive and that he would never go to the lengths of reaching that form himself. As always, amazing work!
The near death experience must have changed him and take on a much more pragmatic mindset.
After having his ally sealed away and almost getting merc'd by 3 people at once, he realized that unless he lowered his standards, he was doomed to fail
It been year but now in dragon ball heroes he have a tail
@@hainguyenthanh8601 but still not Super Saiyan 4.
He finds the Fusion Dance repulsive according to FighterZ as well
This man Black is really trying to speedrun to SSGSS4
SSJGSSJ4 UI KKx20 Ultimate Mastered Mega Saiyan!
AF
Masstered Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan Rosé 4 Evolution Kaioken x 20
Lol now I think about that what Goku black did in evil Goku vs Goku black by theredheadhenry lol
@UnderCoverHunter
neither was Super Saiyan God until the writers introduced it XD
So, this was a sequel to the "Future Gohan vs Goku Black" fight and a prequel to the "Goku Black and Baby Vegeta vs Broly" fight
SICK!
I think it's actually after the goku gt fight... Because he said: something this timeline "again" something I might be wrong though.... If not Broly ssj5???
he says hes back in the same timeline, so its not a prequel if hes been there once
@@KaiSC No, he came there before to observe how to become a Super Saiyan 4. That was before the fight with Broly.
I know an amazing way to connect everything and maybe a real reason to use the Xeno characters
@@colonelslanders3955 Nope he got the golden great Ape idea from broly, even mentionned that he came back to that timeline in the after credit
basically, this goku black came from a timeline where goku was actually mentally competent enough to remember to bring the mafuba seal
Goku really did bless us with a good series by being smart this time around.
So Goku being smart actually fucked up timelines.
He didn't forget it, Roshi forgot to give it to him. Goku had just learned it.
"OK LET'S G-"
"Kakarot, double check if we have everything ready first."
Can you explain me more about it...I do not understand what you just sayed, and thank you...
Vegeta: "I told you, didn't I, that I would cut off your tail?"
Black: "...You should've gone for the hand!"
Is this a thanos' reference?
@@Alex-qp8lr Ikr
My favorite line
YUH THAT WAS MY EXACT THOUGHT WHEN THAT HAPPENED XD
Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling*
THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?!
Kind of funny to keep in mind that when Black first throws that Ki Blast at Vegeta, his life is going to end in less than an hour from then on.
Oh my God you're right lmao
''I'll be back'' - Goku Black 1 hour before death
wait, huh?
@@_skye8660 goku black tps him self to the goku black and Baby vegeta vs Ssj4 broly fight then fuses and later gets erased by beerus
@@mihib7287 all that happens in LESS than an HOUR???
Imagine Goku black telling the canon Vegeta this:
Goku black: “Oh Vegeta? In another timeline, you kicked my ass. But you won’t be doing the same to me this time.”
Vegeta: “Did my other self at least did it really cool?”
Goku black: “...*sigh* Yes.”
Vegeta: “I regret nothing if I die, Kakarot.”
HE ALREADY KICKED THE HELL OUTA HIM HE DOSENT NEED TO DO THAT AGAIN
Lol
gb: you jobbed vegeta, you jobbed
Black could shatter Vegeta's pride and say "You won because I limited myself to give you a fair chance*
A god pretending to be a saiyan and a saiyan pretending to be a god. The irony.
And they make very convincing performance. Goku Black always seemed to really be getting into the saiyan mannerisms. He always seemed a lot more saiyan like than other saiyans we've seen.
While Vegetas bravado always seemed through the roof, where since he attained the likes of godhood he's been more refined with it like displayed here.
@@reagenlionel in the manga yes goku black has. Where in the anime you're wrong.
Well, Goku Black was actually still learning, and he robbed a body from a Goku that didn’t had zenkais anymore, which made Goku Black learn a lot of the Saiyans and always keeping that in mind, since Goku and Vegeta were born like that, they didn’t went to know more about their races so, let’s say Goku Black went for the easy way here since he just had to learn and almost die and that’s how he got stronger, Goku and Vegeta can go the same way without zenkais tho
That's the first thing I thought of when I heard this battle was going to happen.
Not really pretending to be a Saiyan he is one and Vegeta is not a god he just has the ability to use a form that can combat gods, kaioken could be used as an example.
So, Goku Black's powers include:
-Ki Manipulation
-Ki Decoy
-Healing
-Super Saiyan (Mortal Route)
-Super Saiyan (Divine Route)
-Kaioken
-"British Accent"
Did I miss anything?
You missed Zenkai Boosts
@@JoeFanik that's normal saiyan biology
Nope, all of that sounds about right 👍
Wait Divine route means the Super Saiyan God Rosé, right?
Don't know if this counts but Time Travel via Time Ring
12:48 Hyourinjutsu is a genius. By leaving the events prior to this fight ambiguous to the viewer, we can imagine what's going through Vegeta's head right before he starts his monologue.
I like to imagine that it took quite a bit of convincing from Goku’s side in order to get Vegeta on board with ascending to god (rather than how events went in the movie). So whenever Black tells him he can’t win, he flashes back to that conversation he had with Goku. Goku putting his faith in one of his past enemies - someone who basically turned cities of his home to glass - to defend the place they now both live. I feel like this would definitely be enough of an emotional nudge to usher Vegeta into ascended God form.
Either that or Hyourinjutsu just wanted some flare to add to the battle. Either/or is a win/win for me!
It was pretty much like anime . He did say a couple of things more like they both worked hard for it and black stole goku's fruits of training
Basically it was " YOU FILTHY BODY SNATCHER ! "
English moment
I think you've missed some details that imply he's not only more cooperative than ours, but outright stronger as well. Let's start with the obvious, he's using techniques he shouldn't have access to, like hellzone grenade and those surprise ki blasts from the ground, piccolo and Goku moves. Not only that, but he and Goku were fighting beerus in the flashbacks, something that doesn't happen in either version of that fight in the original timeline. This Vegeta therefore is less arrogant, and willing to accept help... But then why didn't they use Goku for the ritual? And why wasn't he in ssj3 fighting beerus. Call it a hunch, but given he has more training partners due to cooperating with other's and the fact Goku was on earth, there's a chance this Vegeta is outright stronger than that goku, and even the original timeline Goku by this point in the story. I mean he was already being debatably stronger in the og timeline with less, so why wouldn't this Vegeta be stronger than that one?
13:56 Love how he, for a split second, tapped into a small portion of super saiyan blue. Just shows how this power is bordering onto blue
7:32 ssjr
@@aleidacueto520 I also notice that.
This guy is a genius when is sprite animations.
You actually see Black turing UI for a brief second at the end
@@asurabg7052 ultra ego should be coming too
@@asurabg7052 Where?
The stories you've painted, giving Vegeta a much-needed win and improving upon a very unexplored character in Goku black. Creating suspense for the next episode, all the while giving an earth-shattering fight that leaves heaven breathless, this was a masterpiece in the truest sense of the word.
Salamander Studios I wonder if he’ll go back to this timeline
I really hope they bring back golden cell in some way
@@saltytsunami4389 they already did. Did you not see episode 13?
He didn't win. Black got exactly what he wanted.
@@Bluesit32 Black achieved his goal, that's true, but he did that by losing the fight. Vegeta would have probably killed him right there if he hadn't retreated.
Why only top clothes getting destroyed.
I'm sure if all clothes get destroyed they will get double power up.
Giggity
Thats a team four star référence
Because zeno is still a child
Good point
Oh I cannot wait to fix you!
Gohanverse reference
i love the concept of goku black existing and going through timelines battling over and over, he could be now considered a phenomenon of time
Goku xeno vs black when?
I think they used this plot in SDBH too
@@goatgeta6549 it was likely being used by fuu (explains the time breaker mask) so not really.
@@elcrakcultraporxchara3260 ya hay
@@alejandroliceta1361 que?
Goku Black: " My ally was defeated because he was weak. "
*Goku Black: You're Weak.*
*Zamasu: I am you.*
He was basically talking about hisself
I know that vid, nice one
Perhaps he was so disappointed that he no longer considered him another him
its the same feeling when I wanna punch myself in the past for being stupidly dumb
@@fatpurp4041 yeah
To Hyourinjutsu.
Just being frank here , your what ifs are THE most entertaining thing to consume compared to the vast arrays of DBZ fan creations that exist out there. (Believe me there's a lot) From Fanfictions, to fan-animation, abridged series , live-action creation and even games i have consumed a lot.
All of them are great homages to this franchise but they never elevated the franchise itself (Team Four Star DBZA being the only exception) . Point is, your work on these what ifs has been fascinating to watch over the years , seen them grown in quality and now with this narrative hook to it i can confidently say that every DBZ fan should watch your what ifs to get the full DBZ experience. Your what ifs in my eyes genuinely elevates the franchise. I haven't felt this giddy to watch something DBZ related since the Broly movie two years ago.
Do not stop with this Goku Black story, its at the best part right now and i can't wait to see what happens next. Keep doing this, your work is unparalleled and unique even among the sprite animation sphere. I can write a lengthy essay on what makes your work great but i'll do that on a different day
Thank you
(side note:- This was supposed to be a Twitter dm but it seems you do not have a twitter acc so resorted to TH-cam comments)
Uh jesus christ u rly greatful that he existed huh, relatable im glad that hes still continuing the series
@@Staro69 yeah you can say that lol
Your thoughts on deliverance episode 3?
@@darkdevil6508 It looks great mate and its narrative pacing is developing .. it didn't have one previously . Its still wacky as any fan made series tho
@@64bitanthony50 I agree. What they did with that episode is mindblowing imo. Best overall dragon ball fan animation ever.
13:57 Glimpse of Super Saiyan Blue Evolution. I’m noticing this after watching this video 4 times. I swear the level of detail put into this animation is insane
goku black speedrunning ssj4 is making vegeta speedrun ssbe
I think that was just Super Saiyan Blue, Evolution has a rich dark blue color.
That wasn’t blue evolution, just a small glimpse of blue. I love that detail
I saw it too
I think it's ssj BLUE only!
The writers at Dragon Ball, *HIRE THIS MAN!!!*
Only toriyama writes it man. Oh yea i forgot toyotaro but he can sometimes make it shit
Edit 11/02/21: Looking back over this comment a year later, I can see where 6ou are coming from. These people however are only fan fiction writers. Since they dont necessarily have rules limiting them on what they can or cant add, they can do whatever they want.
They tend to always have some flaw. I will admit I've never been this intrigued by anything dragon ball in a while. Since broly at least. Dragon ball deliverance was heat.
I always appreciate the offical one though even if it's hot buns.
Looks ar Super dragon ball heroes
@@ultrachadstinctgoku7579 not true
@@fazewalmart387 oh yea. Toyotaro
Why?
not gonna lie, together with his personality, Goku Black's journey to get stronger is pretty dope. almost makes me wanna root for him.
oh, and super saiyan god evolution makes total sense btw.
yo ya see that flicker into SS Blue? i was so hyped when i saw it.
Timothy45 when is the flicker I don’t see it
This Journey ended up with him fusing with Baby and the creation of the Ultimate warrior Baby Vegito Black
@@superjaysilverbird1089 look at vegetas hair in 13:56 - 13:58
@@superjaysilverbird1089 13:57
Y'know the more I think about it, the more I realize Hyuorinjutsu is a master of very tiny details.
Like I feel when future Gohan's theme starts playing it is a callback as to what he said before he was killed by the Androids and Goku Black in this what-if series. That Vegeta is the "someone stronger who will take my place" and for that I deeply respect Hyourinjutsu for that.
Thanks a ton for this wonderful series and keep up the good work 👍
julian sanchez I just love it when people do that, right?
oh fuck this hit me hard ngl.
Vegeta: I told you..you'd die for that
Goku Black: You should've...you should've gone for the hand
Stolen
》INFERNØIGNIS《
And nobody cares
》INFERNØIGNIS《 ACTING LIKE IT’S THEIR FAULT
》INFERNØIGNIS《 so is yours
Lol that was exactly what I thought of when I realized Black was just gonna leave
I like to think that Vegeta from this timeline got, for the lack of a better word, "inspired" by Black going Rose for those few seconds at the end, letting him know that an SSJ + SSG combination is possible, and he eventually reached Blue on his own. I mean come on, he even gets a glimpse of it during the fight itself!
Golden Frieza about to get clobbered by an early Blue Evolved Vegeta.
And whatever the Zamasu of this timeline decides to do, I imagine Vegeta will be pretty quick to put him down.
@@gabrielcote8211 Black Vegeta?
@@juliane.mfarias9285 If Vegeta stays ahead of his Goku, likely yeah.
I just imagine Vegeta seeing a doppleganger in the same attire as the Goku one attacking him, and pulverizing him on the spot.
@@gabrielcote8211 Imagine: Future Bulma died and the last thing she saw was her beloved husband's face. And Trunks saw it happen and had to live the post apocaliptic future against someone looking just like his father.
@@juliane.mfarias9285
Woo boy.
Imagine Goku's rage upon hearing of Goten and Chi-Chi's demise, but applied on a Vegeta who knows the Evolved state.
Vegeta Black is about to die horribly.
This animation did Vegeta more justice than the series itself. He actually won for once!
Big Factz id love to see more of that Vegeta 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
But he still made black way stronger by doing exactly what black wanted him to do, almost just like the manga
Its more like a draw
So how strong was baby Vegeta then if he kept up with ssjg black and ssj4 broly to an extent
@@rashodhustle9718 baby vegeta is stronger than adult gt goku ss3 and weaker than this vegeta in ssge
This battle was animated so good.
You can see why it took so long.
Not only does the animation have different features and qualities to it but it's actually developing into a really good story.
This is awesome, I will be here for the next one
I think it’s safe to say Hyourinjutsu’s Goku Black is an absolute genius. He is constantly flying under everyone’s radar, learning new skills and transformations, growing stronger. All while strategically time hopping across the multiverse just to find good sparring partners.
This guy is a psychopathic chess master!
Underrated comment
You're absolutely right
This is why I like Black more than Merge Zamasu, this guy insane and so clever what he’s doing.
This would actually be a good storyline in Super if its executed right. Obviously Black is gone but they could do this with the first time traveler they talked about in the series.
Honestly what's the Endgame. This Goku black is possibly the most dangerous villain in any Db fan-story ever. Plus the script and the details are just surperb!!!
@@bladysante2903 to be honest I can't imagine anybody who can beat him at this point.....
"unlike you, who simply stole the fruits of his training"
-learns SSJ4
-leans how to use godly ki
-trains to be able to use kaioken with SSJ
-creates SSJG rose
-lean how to use ki sword technique
tbh he did train a lot
Vegito created the
Ki Sword technique*
@@exequielbreton4393 really but neither goku nor vegeta uses that though?
anyways i will change that then
@@vitortakara7090 Vegeta use It, in DBS Manga.
Most of that is still Goku’s stuff dawg
Also trained to use healing, and ki constructs.
“Different Timelines Same Results, Huh Best Bud.”
F(cough)...you!!
Fr shit dumb t
Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling*
THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?!
Time stamps on that video:
6:50 and 7:24
@@demoknight. Buddy, it appeared on 0:17 lol, and I'm sure he gave us a warning back then, because we would know the result of this fight through the difference of power showed back on those days between Black and Vegeta's SSJ God evolution.
Monika? Tf you doing here in this timeline.
To be honest, this is basically turning into its own Goku black arc.
And I love it.
Yeah, it could be the final boss, i like it
I wanna see Jiren go against him
He's basically time-hopping to beat the boss he's stuck at, from what I've heard from others.
in all honesty, i think it's hilarious
and now that arc ended
When ya think about it? Hyourinjutsu made Goku Black feel more like Goku Black than the Anime did
That is worthy of praise
Indeed
As a Vegeta fan,
You get a Sub, cuz you showed my boy Vegeta some love, But oh who am I kidding how could he not get a sub for his work? Just amazing dude
TRUE!!!
Unlike Akira Toriyama lol.
The fact that goku black threw some civilian cars and vegeta saved him was great
And Vegeta was not killed, unlike Goku. This Vegeta is superior
@@deusgamemaster2242 Exactly!
Black is not holding anything back, he’s pulling out all the stops, he is determined to take Goku’s and by extension the saiyan race’s potential power to its logical extreme and it seems that nothing short of a God Of Destruction might stop him, and eventually not even that. Hell, Black might actually try to go after Toppo and Jiren eventually. Like that other guy said: he’s actually trying to speedrun to Super Saiyan Rosé 4.
I think Black is the "avatar" of the animator, the character who applie all is fantasies and theories about transformations, and it's super cool
it left such a mark that he made an appareance in fucking absalon.
Pretty sure he's gonna die after he fight as baby vegito against beerus
Black being a god and the saiyans being a warrior race means that when black develops its full potential he will become something like a god of war
he's not majin buu vegeta's self sacrificing attack should've killed him there
Everyone talking about Goku Black but
Can we take a minute to appreciate the timeline he's in, where Vegeta becomes the first SSG? It's such an amazing idea and I'd adore to see more done with it!
Not much would happen, though. Basically everything RoF and on plays out the same.
@@williamchuba9397 vegeta would be stronger than goku by a little though, he'd get a head start when being trained by whis
@@region7rra881 I mean vegeta’s ssb is a little stronger than Goku’s, keep in mind Vegeta got a 9 month hesdstart to Whis’s training without Goku knowing
ok, now timeline where Goku and Vegeta are only SSj while gohan reaches SSG and where Goku Black is good XD
i think we're also forgetting that Vegeta now has Evolution god as well, which while still weaker than blue, would set the seeds for Vegeta to get Evolution blue *far* earlier than normal, with Goku himself possibly going for it as well now that he knows such a thing exists...especially since Vegeta ALSO got an early heads up on the idea to combine God with ssj thanks to seeing Black do it.
Its interesting that Vegeta manages to patiently wait for Black to explain him all this stuff.
Dude, listen, I can't even handle these episodes anymore, they're that good. The script, the direction, the animation, everything is so spot-on and incredible. You're too underrated, man, you genuinely deserve millions of subs for the quality you put out! Love from Pakistan (just so you know you have fans all over the world)!
i second the shit out of this comment
Am I the only one who realised that this *What If #14* was "leaked" in his video *What If Universe - Official Power Scaling*
THAT CAME OUT 7 MONTHS AGO?!?!?!
@@demoknight. Yeah, he stated that the animation will come after. Those who watched the power scaling video already KNEW he was gonna make this animation.
@@demoknight. I mean it was already planned and announced back then, it's not like he keeps the projects he's working on a secret. It's even revealed in this video what the next what-if battle is going to be, which is Xeno Vegito SSJ4 VS Gogeta SSB i believe.
Loved the Stream bro
Can’t wait for the NEXT VS
Same
Next Xeno Vegito ssj4 vs gogeta blue
Same! Indeed!
C0dR3X YT Xeno would win because the characters Xeno are technically really above super and regular gt. Should just be gt ssj4 vegito vs Gogeta blue
@@simplysupreme1030 not really. Remember Goku: Xeno in SSJ4 who has had God Ki before lost to post TOP SSGSS Goku. So as much I love the Xeno characters and backstory I don't think they would win due to what has been said in Heroes.
This is the Goku Black arc we should’ve gotten. Good work on this series dude, your animations are god tier.
TOTALLY AGREE!!!!
Ssj4 in dragon ball super what a joke
Bruh this is worse than the manga version of it
So true
Personally the only bad part of the Goku Black Arc was the infinite zamasu ending, like they had a awesome ending with Future Trunks and the Spirit Sword and they ruined it by adding that.
Hyourinjutsu is a legend making all these hyped fights and having obvious power scaling and badass music i really hope this channel wil go on for many years it is a great channel.
Respect Hyourinjutsu
You mean the dokkan music :)
Vegeta: punches black
The grocery bag: *adios*
if you go to 1:13 and go frame by frame you can see that he actually just leaves the grocery bag on the floor
@@berg5332 oh fr? Didn't see that, thanks man
@@berg5332 well it was probably blown to bits by the end
E
@@YabadaBean f
Zenkai: *exists*
Goku Black: I’LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK
WTF underrated
Broly: I'm about to steal your property, Kakarot.
Honestly though, the man is abusing those saiyan exploits, even grew the tail
@Embodiment of destruction so your saying he would be a power hungry monster that travels through space and time to fight strong opponents and cheats death, and be a man who only strives for power over everything else if he was a saiyan? Unlikely
@@exiegelastweekgamer1571 Hippity Hoppity.
These Zenkai are now my property
When the world needed him most...
*HE RETURNED*
No he Vanished
r/whoooosh
I'm glad you understand
I have several questions
@@imnoob9732 no he returned
Just a little tid bit I liked in the beginning.
When Goku Black launches the two cars and Vegeta catches them and saves the people in them, really shows how much his character has grown. He may not be the Prince or Possible King of Planet Vegeta anymore. But it shows he's definitely found a planet he sees that's worth ruling as the Prince of, albeit us weaklings earthlings can be seen as to him sometimes.
It's a nice detail I noticed that made me go "Vegeta kick this poser's ass and SHOW HIM who exactly he's testing the patience of!"
This man don´t wait for Dragon Ball, He makes is own Dragon Ball
This is just amazing... Good Job
Somewhere out there, there is a Zamasu who took Brolys body instead of Gokus
This is a really good idea
Thinking about this alone send shivers down my spine.
imagine that one fusing into merged zamasu. at that point you might as well just give up
And there is a timeline when zamasu took monakas body.
Which Broly? The original or the new one?
Last time he took this long to update a video, it was because he was working on a movie
I'll wait then
That ending is perfect, and really explains why he know all those transformations
And it also explains how he knew the events of Goku and Baby transpire.
Honestly Hyourin, I noticed how good Goku black felt about beating Vegeta in SSG. Now, I don't know if you're THAT good in detail, but I vaguely remember in the manga that Vegeta in the future was beating Goku black with SSG and rapidly switching to Blue in between intervals, which made Black completely furious. If you planned that intentionally, then my respect for you has increased ten-fold!
To be fair it'd piss me off too if I'm using a much more powerful form and I can't even see him changing to Blue but he's still kicking my ass. It's like being on a motorcycle and still losing in a race to the guy on the Bicycle. I imagine that was also an ulterior motive for getting 4 as well. He wanted to flex on Vegeta the same way Vegeta flexed on him.
The virgin Anime Goku Black vs.
The absolute chad Hyourinverse Goku Black.
[Goku Black]: *Goes SSJ4*
[Vegeta]: "Such power pales in comparison."
[Vegeta 10 seconds later]: *Clapped*
Probably talking about the transformations themselves but it's still hella hilarious.
Vegeta : But .. But the multiplier!
Goku black : Zenkai boost go brrrr
Classic Vegeta
@@humanman9920 ssj4 is a limit breaker, not a multiplier
First, I love how Goku Black is just hopping across timelines, making all the fights canon to the Hyourinjustu Multiverse.
Second, with all the explanations, it really makes me think. These fights really be making sense, more so than some DB episodes. Awesome work.
I just started a whole war in my reply section
It's better he did not participate. He would have belonged to Universe 10 not Universe 7 anyways
Broly's potential is still much higher.
SpeedForceNation brolys potential is linear
People would die
He’d lose to jiren
13:57 Anyone else notice Vegeta tapped into Super Saiyan Blue for a split second?
Oh yeah 😏 I noticed
7:32 ssr goku black
Definitely. Actually thought he was going to do it.
But this black already fought ssb, so how could god vegeta beat him?
@@Napoleonic_S Because he had, sorry, stole a weak goku body so he need to regain (and increase) kis power
I still find it interesting that Heroes ended up exploring Goku Black tapping into the true power of Saiyan Biology like how you did. Though I do think you've been handling it a lot better so far.
I am...Unendingly curious what the next What-if featuring your Goku Black would be, though if I were to through out a guess: Goku Black & Baby Vegeta V.S. Xeno Goku & Xeno Vegeta (Mutated SSJRKK Baby Vegetto Black vs SFPSJ4LB Vegetto/Gogetta)
it's going to be baby vegito black vs beerus
At this point if Black enters one more portal he’s gonna end up in Smash.
"Why are there so many people with swords"
Tbh I wouldn’t be surprised at this point
_Black Goku vs Joker_
“How the hell is that laughing dog kicking my ass?”
Black: How did I get knocked down by a plumber? I can fly!
Also Black: Ah, I see you're a dark version of that Pit fellow, Pit Black I presume?
Dark Pit: No....just Dark Pit.
i know its 4 in the morning but who cares
sleep is for the weak.
That's the spirit
more like super saiyan 4 in the morning heh
I didn't sleep well for 3 days
6:45 am for
4:43 pm for me.
Vegeta did the one thing no other gt villain does, he went for the tail.
Dj Scout I mean if they did then there would be no story, either super 17 or most likely baby (since he realized where that power came from) would just end it then and there with the tail, everyone dies, and leaves a bitter taste in our mouth for such a anti-climatic ending. That’s probably the reason
I do love this version of Goku Black, being able to create more solid weapons using Super Saiyan 4's amazing ki control.
4:44 I don't care what anyone says. This scene was nut worthy.
You not wrong
😐
@Lucas Frejborg bruh it literally says at the bottom left every time the song changes
4:45
How so??
6:03 vegeta's day at the masseuse
"hm, cant feel it"
"okay, thats not bad"
6:05 "OOOOOHHH SHIIIT"
He tanked that 💀
Did anyone catch the part where Vegeta was almost tapping into SSJ Blue? 13:55 onwards.
Yeah i was looking for someone who made that comment
Yes , precisely 13:58
That would be weaker than whatever he was at the end
@@blankblank1257 It wouldnt. SSB is x50 stronger than SSJ GOD, ssb evolution is at least x20 stronger than ssb so ssg evolution should be x20 ssg as well. 50>20
Did Goku Black go Ultra Instinct at 16:14?
What I like about your ideas and writing is that it makes super saiyan 4 more interesting. The way you talk and think about the transformation doesn't make it sound like just another transformation but what the super saiyan form was meant to truly be. You make it seem like the super saiyan 4 form is the actual TRUEST form of SUPER SAIYAN.
this is phenomenal. the actual anime can't even compare
Man of culture I see.
You two are both idiots lol. I dont think yall realize how hard it is to make fights in an actual anime compared to simple pixel animations like this
Jesus Christ i think they were referring to the story
Luis Espinoza Before anyone here throws shit at me saying the anime is shit , yeah, it is , but it’s better than the story of this videos , don’t mistake me they are fine , they look cool , but the story has so much fanservice , and the logic here is messed up , and I know it’s a fan story , not supposed to take it seriously , but that is it’s main flaw , it brings in sooo much concepts , it kinda feels like Dragon Ball Heroes , but a little bit better
Jesus Christ and yeah , I agree with you , animators are such talented people , like Naotoshi Shida , Onishi and others that worked on Super’s staff, yes this videos look cool and my respects to the creator but we can’t compare it to actually drawing and animating things out of scratch
Black: Seems like I’m in a bit of a pickle here... No worries though! With my *handy dandy time ring* here, I can just go to another timeline and-
"Vegeta pulls a Thor and let's black escape when he could of finished him"
Vegeta: You see imposter, Your not dealing with the average super saiyan god anymo-
Black: Bye bitch *Pop*
Vegeta: GODDAMNIT, I NEED TO STOP DOING THAT!!!
I just noticed that Vegeta's hair goes blue when he's attacking Black with a beam as a SSG Evolution
It’s foreshadowing that Vegeta is soon to unlock Super Saiyan Blue.
I noticed too
@@NASALunarLight By accident, and determination lol
Does that mean.. Whiss trained Vegeta here? (It's hard to unlock ssjg-ssjb without training, I just say lol)
@@MiraiNoDame no vegeta was the first ssg in this timeline he did the ritual first so goku is the one who needs traning from whis to unlock ssg and ssb
Even after 2 years this is still one of my favorite animations.
This is simultaneously a more interesting and more consistent goku black arc than we got in the show
I heavily agree with this statement
na. this is good but the goku black arc is better because of obvious reasons
@@skrilla9247 Nah. This is a better Goku Black arc.
Well this expands upon the arc we already got so this is to be expected
Amen to that.
6:02 Vegeta's confidence in his transformation that he's willing to leave himself open is such a great touch
Nah he just wanted a back massage
Black Gokû's eyes color being different in SSJ4 than Gokû's SSJ4 eyes is a nice detail.
GOD the detail I'm the actual fight moves. Using SPRITES, somehow BEATING the animation.
Truly. Bravo.
"But this only works if I endure a great stress in battle."
That was thrown in SO last minute. *laughs* One sentence away from "Holy Shit, GB really figured out a game breaking hack. Damage YOURSELF for Zenkai." Although...that IS what body builders do, so...not REALLY so far fetched...
OH MY GOD VEGETA'S HAIR. That was the sickest, most subtle artistic touch I've ever seen in any DBZ, official OR fan made.
Alright. Jesus. You win. I'll Patreon. Would have proffered to donate here, but that's...that's just art.
Vegeta: cuts off the tail making it impossible to access 3 sayian transformations, significantly hinders the base power and makes it much harder to control the normal sayian forms
Black: all according to plan, hahaha
Black: i will just regrow it later lol see you next time, Vegeta. Thank you for the zenkai, loser! *pop*
Vegeta: FUUUUUUUUCK
He could just go to another timeline and use the dragon balls to get it back, but he probably doesn’t need it.
@@viciousaidan2613 we don't even know how he grew it back before lol. If him did it one time, he can do more.
Goku Black: hey Vegeta, i came back and with my tail too... and a friend.
*Baby Vegeta appears with his own white tail*
Vegeta: fuck that shit, i just need to cut them again
Goku Black: HAHAHA Baby, let's show him our new trick. Taiyoken!
*Vegeta gets blind for a while*
Black and Baby: FU SION HA!
*energy explouds their place*
Vegeta: NO NO NO NO NO!
Baby Gogeta Black: YES! DIE MORTAL!
*destroys Vegeta with a finger*
@Dragon with Internet connection he needs Flex Tape
3 transformations?
"I didn't even know an evolution to Super Saiyan God existed"
Makes me wonder if we'll ever see the return of SSGSS4 Goku, using the Kaio-Ken to fight against SSJ4 Rosé Evolution Goku Black
That Goku needs an actual fight. The sort of techniques he could pull with that experience and the fact that he was stronger than one of the Gogetas are enough material.
What we can expect from this Goku Black:
- unite to Baby Vegeta for a big future plan
- regrow his tail again, because he stated it was crutial. Maybe Baby Vegeta could get one too.
- try to combine the powers he discovered and learn news like UI
I wish he fights against the Super manga Goku that was fighting GT Goku. One after the Moro Saga that haves a tail (a idea he had because of his fight with GT Goku) and a control of UI like manga. It would make a great villain. I also expect then to fight against Beerus as Baby Vegeto Black, the fusion ends, Beerus breaks the potara and they fuse again with the dance, creating Baby Gogeta Black.
@@leirbag1595 yes,like,according to the official power scalling video he is superior to even beerus and he can be even stronger by what we know,since he can use the kaioken x10 or x20,and since he has much more experience than all the other versions of goku we know perharps he can use even greater levels of the kaioken,x30,x40,perharps even x100.
if this is not enough,thanks to the battle of baby and black vs broly we know that with the transformation of ssj4 and enough zenkais,one can theorically achieve a ssj5,perharps this goku can achieve it and combine with the godly ki the same way he did with the ssj4.
We can go even further and speculate that this goku trained and achieved the evolution forms that vegeta has achieved,and we too have the detail that he did became a kid,so he does not have his full power like his adult form
GODAMMIT!!!
this goku has an unbeliveable amount of potential
@@darknessbr3209 Yeah, even then he was holding back on Cell.
SSGSS4 KAIOKEN MUI what
God 4:45 can't stop watching it, so good at how they charge up making it seem like they both equal to each other however, black powers up ever father showing the gap between them. And the music choice was godly
@Lucas Frejborg dokkan battle int future gohan theme there are like 3 dokkan themes here btw
It’s so good
I can’t stop watching it
Ye
I cant believe the effort put into making all these. All the little fan service details and stuff, this is nothing but raw passion for DB. So cool.
Ive been waiting for this moment
Gay
Both you and me LK235.
Yeah you right
We All Have
Me too.
This fight, was totally worth the wait, I loved every second of it and that ending, brilliant, I mean I was already spoiled about this being a sequel to Future Gohan vs Goku Black/prequel to Goku Black & Baby Vegeta vs ssj4 Broly, but I still enjoyed the reveals
And the choreography was spectacular, every movement, ever attack, soooooo good
Can't wait to see DBH Vegito vs DBS Gogeta
U mean ss5 broly this tme
If i remember right he said he came "back" to this timeline "again"... So ssj5 Broly >:3 if i'm right ofc
No guys, he went to that timeline first to understand & attain ssj4, then fought ssg Vegeta, then came back and then the events of Goku black & Baby vs Broly happen (for the first time)
I know it's confusing, but trust me, Hyourinjutsu has stated that this is a prequel to what if #9
I wonder what Goku and Vegeta's clothes are made of? They hold up to everything
For those who missed it, at 17:15, we’re getting xeno vegito ss4 vs dbs blue gogeta. What if 14.5 will be Johnny vs Giorno from JJBA.
That’s actually kinda cool, he hid the teaser in the list of what-ifs
RAMDOZA 9624 he talked about it in the community tab I think
Xeno vegito vs dbs gogeta?
Isn't like the xeno versions a f*ck ton more powerfull than the super ones?
@@luisjorgerestrepomachacado4349 yep
@@luisjorgerestrepomachacado4349 it's an opportunity to give the SSJ4 fans a win, other than the Blue vs 4 Manga gift he did, where his reasoning was that 4 would outlast blue (which I'm not denying, I just found it funny he dedicated a whole video just to talk about it)
Ok, that Ki Chain Scythe is the single most creative Dragonball move I've seen in a while.
reminded me of Axl from Guilty Gear when I saw it
the gohan and piccolo dual move was as good or even better, but yeah.
i can only read key chain
This video was the best thing ive seen in a long time. Thank you so much for making it.
Man Vegeta just wanted to buy his groceries 💀
Yeah bro Vegeta seriously needs a break
My man Vegeta got jumped at the supermarket like Booker T
I love how when vegeta took that form he kept flashing blue sometimes while fighting
I LOVE THIS GOKU BLACK/ZAMASU!
Saiyans are naturally power-hungry and battle-thirsty, so we've never truly gotten to see something like a Saiyan Genius. If Bardock lived longer he probably could've been, but this is why I love the concept of Goku Black; a Saiyan wielded by Zamasu gets rid of that pure battle mentality. His end goal isn't just to reach endless power and continuously and become the strongest, that's more or less just his goal by proxy. His true goal is achieving his "Zero Mortals Plan", by having that main goal instilled, he's not held back by the natural Saiyan tendencies of honor and fight-fight-fight, and instead _abuses_ the heck of the fact that he is Saiyan.
I love the concept of Goku Black because it provides a Saiyan Genius while _not_ breaking the lore of what a Saiyan is like. Goku Black isn't a "One-of-a-Billion-Special-boy-who-doesn't-want-to-fight" pure Saiyan, but a God abusing the Saiyan to their own desires. Goku Black literally answers _every_ single creative application of what a Saiyan is without being hindered by battle hunger or blood lust. Sure he's still hungry for power, but with his main goal he's much more flexible with his desires and training than that.
He may not have honor as a fighter, but damn does he do his homework and exploit Saiyan abilities like an absolute madlad.
The animation is stellar! I love how the Ki blasts and attacks are so vibrant and how it feels like every attack does have an impact both on the receiver and the environment around it. Every action, both during non-fight scenes and dialogue/exposition feel meaningful, every action having an equal reaction, the faintest wind ruffling hair, IT'S *GODLIKE!* I'm sure you've already heard this a million times before, but again, I just love everything about the presentation of your sprite battles, especially how you use Ki from different parts of the body.
If I had to have a complaint it's that attacks like the Ki Blade and Ki Scythes don't really feel like they have an impact on the opponent like a blade would, it just feels like they're being smacked with blunt bats. That's understandable in my opinion since Goku Black's ki-blades are a unique attack to him and would further display the differences in how GB and Vegeta use their Ki, and that it just allows for more varied scenes to play out. It wouldn't do well for a fight scene for the blades just cut off their limbs, so its understandable that they act the way they are, but it's just irks me slightly.
Thank you for gifting us this incredible animation.
11:05 Ki Blade Elbow bro
i was thinking something very similar, he basically is just biohacking saiyan capabilities to his own ends. Vegeta goku and the half breeds did it to a degree with human ki style training(able to take it to the next level that old school pre freiza saiyans never could), but zamasu really accelerated it.
You should edit so it’s 11:03 so you can see the elbow and not the after.
Your PHD sir.
ki blade foot
I love the Super Saiyan Blue Evolved parallel, and this fight paralleled Goku vs Baby Vegeta where both kept transforming throughout the battle!
This is genius, man! Plus, you have a whole continuity! I LOVE IT :D
And they were using cars in battle!!
It wasn't a continuity, he just linked the story to his Baby Vegito Black What If
I love how at 6:03 Vegeta thinks he can turn his back and be absolutely unharmed. Then Zamasu goes Kaioken at 6:05 and all of a sudden it's a problem. Prideful punk gets a wake-up call.
This is BADASS, Hyou made Goku Black turn his scythe into sickles. I love this dude's creativity and style and stories. If only the real Dragonball could do this
When I saw the sickles I was reminded of something from Darksiders and anime stuff
the weapon is called KUSARIGAMA
@@killuafan4365 okay but sickles is another name for them
5:42 Vegeta: "WHY WON'T YOU DIE?!?"
Goku Black: "Prince...has this *ever* worked?"
Gohan
I see what you did there
Vegeta: has it? oh well.. *punches goku black*
Didn't anyone see the credits at 17:14? The next [What-if] #15 is going to be SSJ4 Vegito vs SSBE Gogeta. Can't wait!
Maybe it's his second time... Goku black did say that certain timeline again
To actually fight.... The post from the youtuber and a comment confirmes it...
The chain ki scythe thing was SOOOO DOPE. This is incredible.
You guys talking about the epic fight, when the poor groceries were annihilated :(
Literally on my mind the whole while
Bulma's gonna be piss!!
Plot twist:
The groceries had super sayain god power and instant transmission away
If only saitama was there...
Theory and quality are basically *GOD* level.
Ikr
Yooo an actual storyline! He just connected lots of plot points just from this one video! Color me reaaaally impressed. Not to mention the beautiful animation. He just gets better and better at animating each video
*everytime he gets beaten*
Black: oh yea, it’s all coming together
🤣
Goku black in super saiyan 4 form?!? This finna be craaaazy
Ikr
It really is
I mean, RedHeadHenry did it first
@@KaruSnep what're you trying to say
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Karugotto nobody cares. There both different animators
*I'll try my best to explain the timeline*
1. Goku Black Vs Future Gohan
2. Goku Black Vs SSGE Vegeta
3. Goku Black and Baby (Vegito) Vs Broly
Almost.... If i'm right it goes like this...
First: Goku black VS Gohan
Then: Goku black and Baby Vegeta VS Broly ssj4
Now: Goku black VS ssg Vegeta
Next: Goku black and Baby Vegeta VS Broly ssj5 (That would certainly be a treat)
Bryan Fisher Yes and no. Goku black and baby Vegeta vs broly happens after SSGE Vegeta. The ending was just showing how he got their. So I doubt another is happening
@@thenewninja6162 in the after Credit goku black said "There it is... I finally got to that certain timeline again" soo.... I think i'm right since in my memory he didn't appear in any gt related fights before what if 9
@@bryanfisher1788 No you've got it wrong.
Goku Black vs Future Gohan
Goku Black vs SSGE Vegeta
Goku Black And Baby Vegeta vs SSJ4 Broly
@@Webshooters1 but why do i have it wrong? *Reads post i just found* post: Prequel to *one fight* me: *Surprised Pikachu face*