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This time last year in North America, AGCO unveiled the Challenger 1000 Series (Challenger 1038, Challenger 1042, Challenger 1046, Challenger 1050). It is a badge-engineered version of the existing range-topping Fendt 1000 Vario Series (Fendt 1038 Vario, Fendt 1042 Vario, Fendt 1046 Vario, Fendt 1050 Vario). The 1000 Vario Series stretches from 396 to 517hp; all models in the range are powered by MAN 6-cylinder, 12.4L engines. The top model - the 1050 Vario - can muster up to 2,400Nm of torque at 1,100rpm. The tractor can reach 60kph at a fuel-sipping 1,450rpm; it can cruise at a leisurely 40kph at just 950rpm - not much above tick-over.
The decision to re-badge these tractors as Challenger units for some markets is not unusual. For several decades, many manufacturers - not just AGCO - have followed a ‘common platform’ strategy, whereby one range of tractors or machines is offered in two or more brand liveries, albeit with subtle or not-so-subtle changes to help differentiate between the brands.
For example, Same Deutz-Fahr (SDF) - and Same Lamborghini Hurlimann (SLH) before that - has been doing this for many years. So too have Case New Holland (CNH) and ARGO Tractors (the parent company of Landini, McCormick and Valpadana) - and many more besides.
In one of the more unusual tie-ups, some Zetors tractors were badged and sold as John Deere models (finished in a green and yellow livery) in some South American countries.
AGCO - the parent company that encompasses the likes of Massey Ferguson, Fendt, Valtra and Challenger - is essentially no different; it plays to the strengths and loyalties associated with each individual brand - on a market-by-market and country-by-country basis.
For instance, it pushes Fendt in Germany and the surrounding European markets; whereas the same product might fare better wearing a Challenger badge (and backed up by the Challenger network) in parts of the US.
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Challenger products, including its rubber-tracked tractor line-up, will be “integrated into the Fendt brand” in Europe before the end of this year. Green-liveried rubber-tracked Challenger tractors have started to appear. However, it must be stressed that these are not “official” shots; nor can their authenticity be verified at this stage. What has been confirmed, thus far, is that Fendt dealers across western and central Europe will be able to sell ‘green’ tracked tractors and sprayers - after this year’s Agritechnica show in November. Deliveries of the first such machines are planned for the first quarter of next year (2018).
The styling of Fendt’s existing 1000 Vario Series wheeled tractors is already evident on the latest rubber-tracked Challengers. We expect this same styling to also be adopted on some smaller wheeled tractors in Fendt’s line-up. Though badged as a 1000 Vario Series model, this tractor (below) appears to be smaller than current models and also bears a new number. Is this a pointer to future styling cues for its lower-horsepower tractors? Challenger products will continue to be sold through the existing network (in the existing colour scheme) in North America, South America, Asia-Pacific and Africa. In Europe, production of Challenger products will be moved from AGCO’s factory in Grubbenvorst (Netherlands), to Hohenmolsen (Germany) - the site on which various Fendt Katana self-propelled forage harvesters are built.
Research and development, along with some other activities, will remain in Grubbenvorst.
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Challenger 1000 Series:
Challenger 1038
Challenger 1042
Challenger 1046
Challenger 1050
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Fendt 1000 Vario Series:
Fendt 1038 Vario
Fendt 1042 Vario
Fendt 1046 Vario
Fendt 1050 Vario
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I don't see any Chalenger in this video, I just see Fendt in a different color.
From what I hear, the only real difference between them is that the Challenger can have front & rear duals setup for 30" row spacing. Otherwise they have the same engine, HP, transmission, etc. Heck, if you look up close on the Challenger, many parts say "Fendt"
Da stellt sich nur die Frage welche Farbe und grün ist nunmal schöner
In jedem Fall ist das Design sehr schön
Playing devil's advocate here, Green is the better shade - when matched with yellow wheels, surely?
Ich mag alles.
Joh !
both tractors built in Germany on same assembly line just painted different colors. both have same engines and HP. big difference is brand (both AGCO owned) and options available. both can be sold in north America.
Thank you.
They arent built in Germany. They are built in the US.
The big thing I see is that Challenger had a CAT engine which is not available now through AGCO was not part of the deal.
Allan McCoshan Now they‘ve got a MAN engine in the 1000 series, so what?
@@daltonrumbarger2701 No. Fendt 1000 vario is German tractor, it's builded in Germany. Challenger version is just repainted Fendt
Agco vs agco! Who will win? It's agco, that's who... 😂
Die werden eh beide bei Agco Fendt hergestellt also theoretisch beides Fendt Traktoren
theoretisch
Terminator praktisch auch nur das beim ein Challenger draufsteht
Und der Unterschied ist das der Challenger weniger PS ( HP) hat als der Fendt
krummi -79 und wenn du dann den Fendt 1050 in Challenger Lackierst hast du doch auch 500 ps
I like yellow
Also ich finde den Fendt 1000 Vario als Challenger 1000 in gelb richtig schick, liegt wohl daran das ich die Traktoren von Challenger ansich recht gut finde.
Wenn man sich mal die PS/HP Daten zwischen den beiden Varianten anschaut scheint es da ja Unterschiede zu geben, der Challenger 1000 hat bei allen Typen weniger PS/HP.
you used the PTO hp rating for the Challenger and engine hp for the Fentd
Laufen beide vom gleichen Band in Marktoberdorf der einzige große Unterschied ist ,dass der Challenger für Amerika übliche Berifungen bzw Steckachsen hat und es beim Fendt Wunschausstattung ist .
Ok!
Why are you comparing apples to apples LOL!!!🍎🍏
Fendt 👍💪🏻
Gutes Video
Thanks. :)
I wonder do they come out of the same factory? If they do indeed have the same trans as it appears, then I would expect it to be made in Martoberdorf. Fendt in Bavaria make many of the high-end Massey trans also.
Challenger, Fendt Massey Ferguson and Valtra - AGCO corporation. THey have different badged the same tractors and harvesters:
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Yes. I know all that. But what I was suggesting, does Fendt in Marktoberdorf also make the transmissions. They were making Massey's stepless for a while also, not sure if they still do. I did a factory tour there a while back. Cool to do if you are ever there.
Flyingdutchman586 Both Challenger and Fendt 1000 series are build the same, same engine, transmission everything. They are produced in the same factory.
Flyingdutchman586 the tracked Fendt and Challenger are made in the US, and the 1000 series for both of the brands are made in Germany
Looks like same tractor to me, just different colors..
Should not be a surprise, both agco companies.
Its correct.
It's like with the harvesters
Vicki Poe: The engine from the Fendt 1000 is bigger and poverfuller than the challenger 1000 series.
@@linkinparkgermany9689 It absolutely isn't - they have identical engines that have identical tunes that make identical power. The numbers listed in the intro of this video are false; the Challenger numbers are what BOTH are rated at the PTO, and the Fendt numbers are what BOTH are rated at the crankshaft(engine).
The Challenger actually has 517 hp
Ok!
I own a challenger the biggest series and is got 517 hp
@@loganspence6548 ya not the chalanger 1000!
That was the point and you fell head first straight in 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fendt 1050 with engine M.A.N WIN!
You can’t order a challenger 1000 in 2021, only Fendt.
Fendt is better, although Challenger is great, I think Fendt is higher and better
They are the same. Just color and brand, that's all difference
Fendt is way more better then Challenger
Look at the fragment from 7:50 . Wheeled and caterpillar tractors will have corporate design.
Melvin Nilsson
You do realize that Challenger 1000 and Fendt 1000 are the same tractors? The Challenger is slightly downsized on power so Fendt can have it's "highest HP conventional tractor" record.
Actually no, the Challenger outputs exactly the same, numbers listed on the Challenger side are actually PTO horsepower for this series.
www.challenger-ag.us/products/tractors/1000-series-high-horsepower-row-crop-tractors.html#Specs
Ignafiltro Sanchez
Sorry then, I was using the numbers from the video.
I know, I got confused too, so I did some research.
Ein Vergleich mit einem Axion 900er wäre interessanter da er vor der 1000er Serie am Markt war und damit der erste mit über 400ps als Radschlepper
Eine interessante Idee
TractorLab mir würden auch im Bezug zum Terra Variant einige Beispiele einfallen die interessant wären auf Grund der vielen Aufbauten und damit der möglichen Einsätze was man an Manpower und vor allem an Kraftstoff sparen würde wenn der Variant als ÜLW, gülle und Dungstreuer eingesetzt wird. Bei uns fährt einer sogar mit einer flüssig Spritze was aber eher nach eigen umbau aussieht
Ok. :-)
Exact same tractor fendt designed and made both of they give some to challenger i believe under a contract they put there logo on it and throw it on the market exactly the same tractor
Fendt and Challenger belong to the American group AGCO in Europe, caterpillar vehicles are under the fendt brand because it is a more well-known brand than the challenger and in the US Fendt tractors are shown under the challenger brand P.S The AGCO group includes Challenger, Fendt, Massey Ferguson and Valtra
I think it's the same tractor but with different colors
there is literally no point to this video because know one has the choice of one or the other because fendt is only sold in europe and challenger is only sold in america. also your stats are wrong as they are both the exact same tractor and the same horsepower, the only difference between them apart from the wheel options is the colour and the cab layout.
You can get Fendt in NA. there is a Fendt dealer in Oklahoma that sells both Challenger and Fendt 1000s.
Is it just me or are these two the same tractor? Other than wheels and tires they look identical. I'm really confused as to what this video is trying to convey.
It is AGCO tractors. They different brand-badged.
Fendt and Challenger belong to the American group AGCO, in Europe caterpillar vehicles are under the fendt brand because it is a more well-known brand than the challenger and in the US Fendt tractors are shown under the challenger brand P.S The AGCO group includes Challenger, Fendt, Massey Ferguson and Valtra
All of these AGCO tractors look and perform very similarly to each other. The only difference is paint and some body panels.
They different brand-badged.
Fendt is in the agco group but fendt is german
Se Dovrei scegliere Tra i Due.. Challenger a Vita!
è quasi lo stesso trattore, solo sotto diversi marchi.
(Eng: It's the same tractor, but different brand-badged.)
It is COOL
:)
fendt. ... I like that
:-)
I say you better look up were they are made. Then make a decision.!!!🤨 The Track tractors.!!!
Randy Beretta The Fendt/Challanger 1000 series is build in Germany?! What‘s wrong with that?
Randy Beretta the Fendt and challenger branded tracked tractors are made in the US, the 1000 series is made in Europe
Yeah right on !! Japanese actually.
???
Its the same traktor
Like the challenger lexion an the claas lexion are the same maschine
Only the paint is changed
fendt the best
Its the same
:-)
That's because Fendt and Challenger are in AGCO. Fendt 1000 vario in America is Challenger because Challenger is more popular in US.
The fendt is better to jobb Ane drive with, but the Callenger is not a bad one!
Fendt and Challenger 1000 series are similar tractors.
www.challenger-ag.us/products/tractors/1000-series-high-horsepower-row-crop-tractors.html
www.fendt.com/int/11616.html
they are literally the same thing man just different colors and some options
I think fendt has more hp but i like both of them
Ok!
Vorio 1050
akash deep singh it's vario g
Fendt😀
Ok!
Same tractor but fendt have more hp
Pietro Bosco no they dont its just measured differently
AGCO= FENDT, CHALLENGER, MASSEY FERGUSON, VALTRA, GSI,
they had the decency of letting fendt being fendt and that's the only way you can sell fendts they may all use parts of the same make but different parts on different models
Fendt ist geiler
По русски можно?
Можно
This makes me confused ? Just like KTM and Husqvarna. They offer challenger for a better price? And can someone explain the more narrow wheels on challenger? My uncle is a farmer and i loved them John deeres but that is american made and fendt is german?
Both tractors - AGCO.
Challenger
FENDT FENDT IST BESTE
Ok!
Lie fend painting
:-)
Challenger (made in MF manufacture ☺️)
Massey Ferguson Miniatures France this challenger is made in the fendt factory
The tracked challengers are made in the USA 😒
Challenger the best to me hands down
Why is Challenger coping every brand of farming?!!
Yanick Frei same company
Challenger is not copying. Learn something before you will say someone is copying.
Fendt and Challenger belongs to AGCO