I Grew up in a Cult Part 4 - Finding out I was in a cult

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  • @tomwilson4247
    @tomwilson4247 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Giving honor where it's due to you Miss Wotrich,for your honest,and considerate reply, and thanking you for your humble comments on your sharing your experiences with the people, and not claiming to be an "expert " in things of God, etc.,and being a young believer; so I thank you,and give you godly respect, and honor for your honesty, and humble spirit in this matter, dear sister! Pray for guidance from the blessed Holy Spirit in your life,and walk with the LORD, and fellowship with the FATHER, and our LORD JESUS CHRIST! Blessings dear little sister in JESUS lovely name!

  • @nehmoomakor1872
    @nehmoomakor1872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This series is great. There are a lot of brainwashed message believers in your comment section who I would like to debate with cause they annoy me so much but also who are proving one of the things I didn't like about the message. They say in your comment section "You will be cursed" or "God will deal with you harshly" for talking about WMB but they never provide evidence for why what you're saying is wrong. They don't provide any links to any site that show how all of WMB's prophecies and healings were actually legitimate. They continue to show evidence from WMB himself. That's like me accusing someone of stealing then calling to witness the same person that stole and asking them if they witnessed the person I accused (themselves) of stealing. It's frankly ridiculous how hostile and judgemental these Message Believers are when you aren't immediately sucked in to their beliefs. They begin to say backhanded things like "I pity" or "I'll pray for you" or "I hope this spirit of Satan leaves you", which makes me wonder if they've ever read their bible which they probably haven't because if they did they'd release WMB has no backing to any of his doctrines other than "I saw it in a cave" and if you believe that then explain to me why Islam is false. I just wish Message Believers would actually look into and accept the plain truth the WMB lied instead of cursing and judging when they haven't proven that WMB has even said one real prophecy or done one real miracle.

    • @flyman2608
      @flyman2608 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The moral of the story is to follow Jesus Christ and not WMB. A man like WMB though he was sincere as a man he made some errors. What I do with the message is that I take the good part and leave the bad. Even WMB said if he preaches anything wrong, we should toss it out and stick with the Bible.

  • @christinajohnson1730
    @christinajohnson1730 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Hi! Joseph Coleman is my great uncle. My mother Elisabeth Lawson grew up in this, and I’ve had influences of the message in my life, doing all this research has been really comforting to know that I’m not crazy. Thanks❤️ my mom and her sisters left the message over 30 years ago

    • @siyandagudazi1324
      @siyandagudazi1324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm enjoying the message of the Hour, it's wonderful, not all women wanted what Hagai appointed except Esther, not all disciples followed Christ, until 70 left him, so people leaving the truth it's not new. Praise the Lord for the Message of the Hour.

    • @gershoneffiong2940
      @gershoneffiong2940 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@siyandagudazi1324Respectfully shut your mouth

  • @saraha1392
    @saraha1392 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I was in this church up until I was in my early teen years. I always had doubts and kept them to myself but researching and watching and reading the comments has really reaffirmed what I knew! Thanks for making these videos

  • @AustinTexasGardening
    @AustinTexasGardening 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    You're doing a great job with this series, I hope that if anyone is in the message and watching this video, they'd be as brave as you were to honestly examine scripture, research william branham's contradictions, call into question errors and lies about the gospel they are hearing from their message preacher, and find a Christian church that is preaching the gospel faithfully.

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Thanks 😊 I sure hope so. All I can do is put the information out there and pray that God changes some hearts and opens some eyes.

  • @katewilson1189
    @katewilson1189 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thank you for sharing your story. I couldn’t stop watching your videos and I can’t wait for you to post more. I grew up in “The Message” and my stories are very similar to yours but in ways more twisted and bazaar. My Father and my stepmother both suffered from mental illness so can imagine how crazy it became. The years of guilt and shame followed me even after I got out and recently I have been shunned by my Father and stepmother. As crazy as it sounds I could never understand my feelings until I read the book Educated by Tara Westover. Different religion but the same doctrines as any cult. Praise To God that he lead us out of this and gave me a happy life that is no longer filled with depression, guilt and shame.

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Praise God indeed! Thank you so much for sharing those parts of your story. I'm so sorry that you had that upbringing, but so thankful that you are out of The Message. I can relate to mental illness going untreated - it was all too common in the Message. I'm glad you are enjoying these videos, I'm hoping to post more soon. My husband and I just moved and I'm finally beginning to feel more settled and ready to work on more content.

  • @nd3759
    @nd3759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This series is so amazing. Thank you for sharing. Happy to have you back. Hope and pray things get better for you!

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! You’re welcome, and I appreciate the well wishes. 😊

    • @nd3759
      @nd3759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CRWottrich I’m mid video so I’m unsure if this is addressed in the video, but can we maybe get a video on how your relationship with your family who is still in the message is.

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nd3759 That’s a complicated one, but I’ll try to come up with an answer that would be appropriate for a public space like TH-cam😅

  • @jenniferbrowne8645
    @jenniferbrowne8645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I now encounter u, and I enjoyed your story, u speak soooo well, and I can hear love coming out from u to warn the world concerning false doctrines, blessings on u my sister...well done

  • @TheALLYCAT97
    @TheALLYCAT97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I'm proud of you for sharing, I haven't shared my experience simply because the believers are SO HATEFUL. How could you be of God when you condemn people to hell for just questioning WMB. PRAY for these people 🙏

  • @jdavis5742
    @jdavis5742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for sharing your experience. My heart broke for the way your sibling was made an example or negative object lesson over simple questions. I know from personal experience the pain and confusion of that. Happened to me twice. I was denied baptism and completely broken over it. Your videos give me hope for the precious girls currently in this oppressive system. I'm sorry for the backlash experienced in sharing all this. Keep on strong sister! To God be the glory 🙌

  • @forgetmenot4600
    @forgetmenot4600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was involved with this cult for approximately 7 or 8 years, mainly because my parents and siblings got into it and eventually out of it. I already had many cousins and aunts and uncles deeply entrenched and they remain there to this day. It was very easy to get out of it though. We started to see that Malachi 4: 5 & 6 was talking about John the Baptisrt. The second we made this known we were told that if we didn't believe that, we were throwing out the main part of the message. We didn't have to leave anybody they all immediately left us, cut off all fellowship, letters, phone calls, religious tapes and papers. We just stood there with our mouth open, and could hardly believe. We felt no pain, it was just hard to believe that people were shallow and didn't really care about the true meaning of the Word. We have matured enough now to know people in general don't really care about truth (JESUS) all they really want is fellowship and to be able to feel good about going to church a couple times a week. We have continued on searching for ALL truth and God has not left us without understanding, Praise his Holy Name. I have taken this as a wonderful experience in my life, to help to lead me to my Father (GOD), I hope it works for you the same.

    • @m.enriquez1160
      @m.enriquez1160 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Malachi 3; is John the Baptist Malachi 4;5 has nothing to do with John the Baptist although it is the same spirit of Elijah in both......

    • @flyman2608
      @flyman2608 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@m.enriquez1160 bro those verses speak of John the Baptist 😂😂. WMB made an error. WMB was a sincere man but he made some errors.

    • @m.enriquez1160
      @m.enriquez1160 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @flyman2608 excuse me what verdes?

    • @flyman2608
      @flyman2608 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@m.enriquez1160 Malachi 3 and 4:5.

    • @forgetmenot4600
      @forgetmenot4600 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@m.enriquez1160 I don't know what Verdes means

  • @tracyensleyharp
    @tracyensleyharp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You have clearly done your research and presented not just a testimony, but a way out for others if they will humbly consider what you say. Satan has blinded their eyes and I pray that God will open them and show them the truth!!
    And I’m sorry you had a rough month but please know that I truly love following your journey to the truth! God will use your amazingly I know it!

  • @dftbarachel
    @dftbarachel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    proud of you! i left when i was 21, also 7 years ago 💜

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That’s so awesome! So glad you’re free 😊

  • @shaydawn7376
    @shaydawn7376 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have been leaving comments on all of your videos because of how many negative comments you receive. You are doing a wonderful job 😊😊😊

  • @allthingsconsist1742
    @allthingsconsist1742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you!! Your testimony is a blessing in ways you may not even be able to imagine. God bless you!! Thank God you got out of there and that you’re able to help others with your story 😭😭🙏🏽❤️

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aw I’m so glad it is a blessing to you! I think it’s really important to share our stories to spread hope and give God glory ❤️ God bless you too.

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CRWottrich Am a message believer, I follow William Branham as he followed Jesus Christ, am not going to change my mind until I reach eternity

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CRWottrich Am a william branham follower for life

    • @georgesmyrnis1742
      @georgesmyrnis1742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raelnzulu143 the modern doctrine of confession:
      You confess it to become true.
      You speak it and it shall come to pass.
      You fake it until you make it…
      and on, and on, and on…
      Self hypnosis, autosuggestions… the Gospel does not hypnotise believers, Jesus didn’t hypnotise His followers to believe in Him. The confession a true Christian is asked to speak is as real as the Apostles witnessing the resurrection… not lies in the hope that they will one day be fully believed…

    • @jacobcoronado1077
      @jacobcoronado1077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi

  • @CereneMudahama
    @CereneMudahama 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I Also wanted to add as someone who was born into this and left just a year ago that he would ritidule mostly women and judge people, come to find out HE was doing those things, he once said that anyone that claims to be a prophet but goes agaist the bible is a fake prophet and you shouldn't trust anything they say but HE did the same thing, the bible states thaat hell is eternal foreverlasting but william is saying that hell doesnt last forever and God wouldn't do that...

  • @abigailestes8365
    @abigailestes8365 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Praise the Lord that He worked in your life through all this mess! I have a friend who is in the midst of struggling with similar issues (with the whole depression, trying to give up everything, but then being left hopeless and guilty), and it really grieves my heart to watch him suffer... it is my prayer that he and those like him would one day know the rest they may find in giving themselves up to receive God's Grace

  • @localraccoon0218
    @localraccoon0218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing your story. I left too. Never looking back.

  • @BethHpuppets
    @BethHpuppets 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is really encouraging. Thank you for this channel. I have just subscribed after seeing your post. Don’t take the negative comments personally, they are from people who are not at the same stage and realisation as you and they would be finding it challenging to view your video but keep up the good work because the Holy Spirit can use that to open people’s eyes.

  • @HarvardChickie
    @HarvardChickie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You are incredible; this series is amazing and wow you are one strong woman.

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you 😊I’m so glad you’ve been enjoying it! I appreciate the kind words ❤️

  • @edenmanyika9756
    @edenmanyika9756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No pressure you don’t have to rush it I’m so happy you got out the people I know are so adamant and very hard to talk to since they’re very stubborn. Praying for you and your husband and I hope everyone who’s lost has their eyes open.

  • @Kuttysinaustralia
    @Kuttysinaustralia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Oh wow! Stumbled upon your channel from Peter Voicu ! Praising God for bringing you out of the cult. I’ll be checking out your other videos 👍🏽🙏🏽

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching! Praise God indeed, all the credit goes to Him ☺️

  • @franke.6888
    @franke.6888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God bless you.... your honesty is changing my life!

  • @cynthiahenriques727
    @cynthiahenriques727 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro. Branham foretold about a someone who would follow him. In one of his final messages he prophesied that the message will be preached in another nation another race. People in the Branham ministry were too blind to see the direction he was pointing towards.

  • @BL-yt9fp
    @BL-yt9fp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope my nieces see this video series.

  • @cidemssadab
    @cidemssadab 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are a very articulate and a very sincere person. I used to believe in Pentecostalism and Brnahamism myself and I understand the courage it took you (and takes you) to come out and stay out of these cults. Keep up the good work of these videos!
    I see that you use the psychological concept of Cognitive Dissonance as a reason that some would stay in a cult such as the message of the hour. This is a very true supposition. If you would look into a senior level psychological concept such as Terror Management Theory (TMT) I think that you would discover that the whole reason for any religion is because of Mortality Salience, which is the consciousness and unconscious, fear of our inevitable death. The reason we invent Gods and religions is our fear of death. Truthfully, there is no God, he/she is a figment of our imagination secondary to our fear of death.
    There is a lot more to this Theory that will ring true with study if you look into the possibility that it is actually a true reason for our God inventions. I am not trying to debate, but I am trying to liberate your anxieties about the "God" question and death. My name on FB is Butch Pope and I'd be glad to discuss this with you. I have no agendas but I feel that that you need answers.
    Thanks
    Butch

  • @2ndbar
    @2ndbar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was at a meeting where the pastor said that gold dust appeared in the air the previous night and one of the women, a missionary, scraped up some and was able to pay for a missionary trip. There was so much pressure to believe that you would be considered a doubter if you asked for proof, preventing you from receiving your promotion from God. I left and never returned. People like this don't seem to understand the powerful message of the Gospel, that Jesus Christ came to save sinners. Instead, they need to bolster their faith by looking for odd signs like gold dust or angel feathers appearing from out of nowhere. Pretty lame.

    • @ryanehlis426
      @ryanehlis426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have seen angels a couple times and it was very cool experiences.

  • @georgesmyrnis1742
    @georgesmyrnis1742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for doing this!!! 🙏

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You’re welcome! Thanks for the support. 😊

  • @ForTheLoveOfHomes
    @ForTheLoveOfHomes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know it must have been hard for you to share this video and the ones before. Praying that God blesses your journey!

  • @wendyreal247
    @wendyreal247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Crazy how I could anticipate the end result of your brother's interaction with that preacher, because that is the textbook behavior, that they always rolled out.

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, unfortunately true

  • @doriswissler3015
    @doriswissler3015 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thunder movement..tough. I hear you..

  • @_ExtraMask_
    @_ExtraMask_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you 🙏

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You’re so welcome!

  • @jameskennedy721
    @jameskennedy721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great day of realization . " Ive been brainwashed . "

  • @linak7155
    @linak7155 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had never heard of Branhamism before. It is amazing how, in the name of religion, men will manipulate and coerce many innocents into compliamce. I had a similar experience in my early twenties, albeit not to the same extent. It reminds me of Jinger Vuolo's from the Duggar family. Never again!
    You have had the ability to file away to later extract all these experiences that have made you into the person you are today. It would be good to hear how you n your husband met and later married. Also, how is your relationship with your parents today?

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks for watching! My relationship with my parents was complicated for awhile, then low contact for years and now it’s no contact unfortunately. Not all because of Branhamism, although it is an environment that breeds toxic behaviors.
      I should do a video about how I met my husband! I’ll see if he’ll join me for that one :)

    • @linak7155
      @linak7155 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @CRWottrich I love ur transparency. You say what you mean n mean what you say. It took me many years to find my voice. Thank you for considering making the video with your husband. Back to watching the next video, part #5

  • @davidwezigondwe8691
    @davidwezigondwe8691 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not for one moment do I bring a message to the people that they may follow me, or join my church, or start some fellowship and organization. I have never done that and will not do that now.
    An Exposition Of The Seven Church Ages (10 - A Resume Of The Ages)
    Rev. William Marrion Branham

    • @davidwezigondwe8691
      @davidwezigondwe8691 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some people might have made it seem like a cult ,it’s really not my friend. May God help us.

  • @edisonquiambao2392
    @edisonquiambao2392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Who was your Pastor?
    I am a minister of the gospel and teacher of teachings of William Branham. I agree that there's a lot of message cults and didnt really received the true understanding of the ministry of William Branham

    • @davidamik5134
      @davidamik5134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Since you refer that "there's a lot of message cults" what distinguishes you or your group as "non-cult message believers"?
      also what traits are used to label message believer groups "cultish" or "cult"?. Which doctrines of WB are considered "cultish"?
      Can you explain these or some of them? You also claim to be a "teacher of teachings of William Branham" , by your understanding
      of what WB taught, which teachings/doctrines do these "cults" lack in "true understanding of the ministry of William Branham"
      before they descend to , or to be engaging in "cult" practices.? Can you please expound on the above or if possible
      identify "..a lot of message cults..." groups, so others will and can know and avoid joining them?
      Thanks for your time.

  • @aniekanakpakpan3127
    @aniekanakpakpan3127 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for sharing ❤️

  • @jacobcoronado1077
    @jacobcoronado1077 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi!

  • @tomwilson4247
    @tomwilson4247 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    All you dear people congratulating this young woman, need to get alone with the Lord, and search your hearts, and stop fueling this fire she's burning, and rather be more mature about encouraging her to speak about the victory God gives His children in life, and how to be a living testimony to those around us, what real Christianity really is!

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a part of the story of how God saved me. I often point out that it’s the grace of God that I was saved. I left a cult and Jesus saved me despite all of that. What’s wrong with me sharing my story of how God saved me?

  • @bibledays1
    @bibledays1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    DEAR BRETHREN> I WISH YOU READ THIS AS A BIBLE BELIEVER: Bro Branham presented Christ to us as God Himself. How does the rest matter ? With no defense, the rest of all those heresies or whatever were purposely done by Almighty God so that people who are not God's , their attention will be drawn by such, while the elect will be looking beyond the prophet, back to book of Acts, taking Hs Message, testing it by the Word and decide, as Bro Branham also encourages that if he says sth that is not in the Word we must then take what the word says, and whether it is thus saith the Lord, Paul saith prophecies shall fail but LOVE of which Bro Branham found beyond the curtain of time, to say only perfect love will enter. Not accurate prophecy or predictions. Pride and things like that could develop, hence Paul confessed he could speak tongues better than all. Elijah if not Elisha said if God lives then led His fire consume you because he knew that he was a prophet. Challenges they face, done purposely by God vindicating that they are just servants not to set boundaries on, but go beyond their offices. But no single Church-goer survives because their focus is the Prophet, but those who recognize the full Word in the ministry of God's prophet William Marrion Branham. That pillar of fire is continually vindicating as you also prove HIM wrong. For God said he shall send strong delusion to such, lest it is God who inspire you to disprove the ministry and He can Himself help you to find more information. Sometime you'll wonder the reasons that make one to leave the Message are the reasons that the Bible itself rebuke. Is it the Message or the Word you are running away from ?Just be sincere, humble and honest and God can send away the delusion by His mercy. Backsliders in the Message do backslide because none of them received the real Holy Ghost baptism. You knew heresies before God finishes with His whole process in you. Which Church is then perfect for you this day because Church you must go to? Not trying to be ignorant. We see those mistakes and things but because of the Word we see living again in the very 'false ministry' as you can say, it tells us that i was just God's way of taking us beyond His servant into Christ. God bless you, as we pray with one another under no man's name but of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

  • @asifmuniruniverse7732
    @asifmuniruniverse7732 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi

  • @tomwilson4247
    @tomwilson4247 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dear soul, you would do God, and the people a far better service just to get alone with the Lord, wait on Him,and be quiet before Him,and stop telling everyone what you went through, and rather tell them what Jesus Christ means to you,who he is is His majesty, and power, and glory "now" ,and let the Holy Spirit be your teacher, and stop trying to make the people think how schooled you are about "cultism "etc! Sorry, that's so hard,but the church has more than enough so called "experts" on all the ills of the world, and their ideas of life,religion, and on,and on it goes! Apparently you haven't read the very few comments trying to help you correct some things in your life, and not just the ones congratulating you, or maybe you would then take time,and honor God by holding your peace, and learning more about what He called His church to in walking with Him, and each other in love,and obedience for His honor, and glory! This is love,,and God given experience speaking to help you be a well trained, grown up child of God, for His good pleasure!

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is part of my testimony. Many people who leave a cult run as far away from anything that’s got the word “god” attached to it. I hope that by sharing my story of going through religious trauma that other people see that God can heal any wounds. He’s not what branhamism, IBLP, Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witness or what some other cult taught them. I want to encourage people to turn to scripture, repent, be saved, and accept Gods healing in their life as they follow Him. I see nothing wrong with this even if I am a young believer and relatively new believer. I’m not an expert, I have personal experience that I share but i don’t claim to be an expert. Just sharing for the glory of God.

  • @abrideforchrist4247
    @abrideforchrist4247 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So your saying now you have the signs following you now as a believer???

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She doesn't understand WMB..she won't have kept quiet if she new him.
      I pity her.

  • @rensasrensas498
    @rensasrensas498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The bibble says, in the last days people will leave the word and follow after their imagination and the lust of their own heart. And for this cause God gave them up into vile affections. SO AM NOT SURPRISED YOU LEFT. so if you joke on the word of God especially because you know the truth and you want to partake from the word too. God will let you go after your desires of heart. Does the word tell you to put on makeups and things. LOOK AT YOUR LIFE AFTER YOU LEFT THE WORD. Because you did not leave the message, you left the word(God). Think about those word.
    And remember the word says wow to those teachers who mislead one of these, it were better for them to be put a stone on their head and thrown to a pit.

    • @lynettevillaroel8341
      @lynettevillaroel8341 ปีที่แล้ว

      It a cult and False just like the false prohet William Marion Branham.

  • @lovepoems8093
    @lovepoems8093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The message isn't for everyone.

  • @davidcriswell7784
    @davidcriswell7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like your videos...I spend hours a day on TH-cam watching videos of people presenting things on why the message is false, and it has no effect whatsoever, because for everything they bring up it can be related to a previous prophet in the bible...are all the prophets in the bible false? all the prophets of the Bible had flaws in their life...ALL...I'm sorry you got burned in a bad message...still not convinced that you believe that it's a cult...try harder please...I'll keep watching your videos and praying for you

  • @aukecompaan8945
    @aukecompaan8945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Be silent you walk on dangerous ground

  • @tokosekgothudi9988
    @tokosekgothudi9988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    We have Sisters that are having a great Testimony to be under The Message of the Hour,if you got time you listen to the Sisters in Trinidad,Sister Meda and Sister Grace you will be blessed my Sister

  • @vitumbikomakuwa10
    @vitumbikomakuwa10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My sister don't you say anything against the message. Its fine to leave the message, but don't you say anything against the Word of God preached by Bro Branham, you might cross that line of grace. In your death bed you will realise you made a mistake

  • @raelnzulu143
    @raelnzulu143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    William Branham was a God's mesenger and a Prophet.
    Woman don't you fear God while talking false words of his prophet?

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Fearing God is one of the reasons I’m sharing. I believe that fearing God means obeying Him, trusting Him, and prioritizing who He is and what He thinks above anything else in your life. I fear God but I don’t fear false prophets. Deuteronomy 18:21-22 says “‘How may we know the word that the Lord has not spoken?’- when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or come true, that is a word that the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously. You need not be afraid of him.” After all, the Bible says not to fear them.

    • @georgesmyrnis1742
      @georgesmyrnis1742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don’t you fear God while defending a false prophet?

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CRWottrich I let God who I serve intervene in this situation in Jesus Christ name.

    • @georgesmyrnis1742
      @georgesmyrnis1742 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@raelnzulu143 if the god you serve is the one in capitals below:
      *******
      While listening to that, I looked around, and I looked, and noticed in this rainbow, see that ALL-SEEING EYE, like Jehovah, looking through this crevice.
      56-0415 - "The Deep Calling To The Deep"
      Rev. William Marrion Branham
      *******
      then he has no power to intervene.
      The true God of the Bible though has already intervened, hence these videos.

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@georgesmyrnis1742 where have you got this message from??
      "if the deep calleth there is a deep somewhere to respond "
      By William Branham
      I 💘the message actually with all my heart. @ the message with William Branham.

  • @siyandagudazi1324
    @siyandagudazi1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're doing a great job hey, and many will follow you, the world will give you all the applause ok, but who sent you to do it? Satan, that's the one sent you, because most of you claiming the message is a cult, frankly you say dead things, however he that was close to Jesus the scriptures in John 13 says Satan entered Judas.
    These things should happen that it might be fulfilled: "Yea, mine own familiar friend, in whom I trusted, which did eat of my bread, hath lifted up his heel against me."
    Psalm:41:9 - our own familiar friends, that we set together at this table of MALACHI 4:5-6, Luke 17:13, GENESIS 24, Revelation 3 & 10:7, hath turned their heel against us.

    • @jayanthballa956
      @jayanthballa956 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      God bless you brother

    • @Bluedarksun
      @Bluedarksun 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Please read Matthew 11:13 and Luke 16:16 and deny what it says. Jesus himself was the last prophet being THE prophet. He sent back the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth to lead and guide us into all the truth. If there was to be another prophet, why send the Holy Spirit?
      Just for context, I looked up Luke 16:16 and was given this by AI. "Jesus Christ fulfilled the Law and the Prophets, making them obsolete. The Law and the Prophets were a temporary means of salvation, but Jesus’ sacrifice and resurrection provide a permanent means of salvation through faith in Him."

    • @siyandagudazi1324
      @siyandagudazi1324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bluedarksun Matthew 22, Jesus says, "Ye always do error not knowing the scriptures nor the power of God." - not knowing the scriptures.
      Matthew 11:13, the law and prophets prophesied until John. The law spoke of the coming Messiah, the prophets spoke that he is coming, and the last one to prophesy of the coming Messiah is John the Baptist. Why error?.
      Acts 13:1 Now there were in the church that was at Antioch certain prophets and teachers; as Barnabas, and Simeon that was called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.
      What sayest thou of this scripture?, this after way after the Holy Spirit was poured, in Matthew 23:34 Jesus says I send unto you prophets, wise men, scribes and some of them ye shall persecute from city to city.
      You think the Holy Spirit is like a wind? The Holy Spirit uses men, hence in Ephesians 4 you given the five fold ministry.

    • @Bluedarksun
      @Bluedarksun 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@siyandagudazi1324 I agree that the Holy Spirit uses men, yet look at all the things men say and do in the name of the one that gave the Holy Ghost that put people in bondage.

    • @siyandagudazi1324
      @siyandagudazi1324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Bluedarksun but you said that prophets were until John, and I gave a scripture over in the book of ACTS 13:1 that after ACTS 2, the Pentecost, prophets were there in the dispensation of the Holy Ghost. Now being this is specifically to the message of the Hour, lm in South Africa and I see no flaws in it, it's the truth, no matter what your opinions are, it's divinely vindicated and it's not difficult at all, it's nice and wonderful to be part of it.

  • @yongamatiti4547
    @yongamatiti4547 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ooh Devil! I know it's you, it's too late for these nonsenses that you're taking about...

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes..
      It's already late
      We know what we know.

  • @davidcriswell7784
    @davidcriswell7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro Branham wasn't a cult leader and the Message isn't wrong...there are some message churches that have cultic teachings but that's on them...still sorry your mind got fried in a bad church...I'm not scolding you at all, I'm just saying with Christian love...I know a lot of people just like you, who were taught things contrary to the Message...I pray that God will help you find the way

  • @revc5852
    @revc5852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You need to get the dictionary and see what a cult is. And it's someone that's off the word. And I can prove to you where you're off to word. You need to read your Bible and check Paul's teaching out you'll see William branham taught that holiness. You are to be ashamed of yourself. And not check it out thoroughly. To see what his teaching is all about. I've studied his message a long time. And I find out it's with the Bible. And you are on there trying to get attention. Shame on you again.

    • @annmariehursh2915
      @annmariehursh2915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No shame on you for following a deceased man instead of Jesus Christ. Branham was a sexist 🐖 and is burning in hell

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's way too blind to see.

  • @hazelmakena8442
    @hazelmakena8442 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My sister ,I don't which Branham you are referring to , but if it's William Marrion , Pray to God to give you a revelation cause you are very wrong to say it's a cult and you know that you it's not true you are just decieving people

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hi Hazel, thanks for your comment. Actually I am referring to William Marion Branham. If you watch the full video you will see some of the initial evidence that I discovered that made me see he was a false prophet. I also included some links in the description that include quotes from William Branham if you’d like to look into it. I’ve since found much more extensive and shocking evidence. I encourage you to look into it for yourself, since if you only have one source of information it’s hard to realize.

    • @dwightlilly4208
      @dwightlilly4208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hazel, you need to pray to Jesus and repent your association with that heretic Branham. Choose Jesus.

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How could she say its a cult when God himself walked hand in hand with William Branham in a Pillar of fire? She'd rather keep quiet if she does not understand WMB than be talkative..I pity this woman.

    • @CRWottrich
      @CRWottrich  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@raelnzulu143 while I’m flattered that you would pity me, I assure you I am fully confident in my belief that William Branham was a false prophet. If I wasn’t so confident, I would not be so talkative on the subject amidst backlash. As is, I’m sharing in the hopes that it helps people. Let me ask you, when you say that God walked with Branham, are you referring to the vision he had that was vindicated by the “Ring of Mystery” cloud? If so, I’ve included a link in the video description that describes how not only was the mysterious cloud actually rocket smoke (Life Magazine did a follow up on their original article) but according to Branham’s own account of his whereabouts and dates he was not actually at the location of the cloud at the time it appeared. Don’t take my word for it though, if this is the vision you are talking about then I encourage you to check Branham’s accounts yourself. Thanks for taking the time to comment, and I wish you well.

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CRWottrich you are blind to see the truth friend and the spirit that convinced to say so is not from God,
      The message of William Branham is a message approved by God's generals as 100% from God ..
      Who are you to call him a false prophet?
      You are talking just nonsense
      You are blind to see.
      You went because you are nit one of us.

  • @sarahbhayat8644
    @sarahbhayat8644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel soo sorry for CR Wottrich...im actually trembling with fear..

    • @forgetmenot4600
      @forgetmenot4600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't spend too much time trembling for her, you would be better to talk to your creator and get your own house in order.

  • @oscargeorge1436
    @oscargeorge1436 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am appalled that you only highlighting the wrong nothing that was right about the cloud you are clueless listening to much about believe the sign

  • @yaoernest3287
    @yaoernest3287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This lady. Is very funny...
    You termed these teachings of Bro Branham as occultic ...
    If you only understands the sermons he preached you wouldn't say these things ..
    God have mercy on you

    • @annmariehursh2915
      @annmariehursh2915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were occultic, you're brainwashed

    • @raelnzulu143
      @raelnzulu143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Her statements don't make any sense.

    • @yaoernest3287
      @yaoernest3287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's it ...
      What I've realized is most of those who leave the message the core reason is because the message makes things complicated for them ...

  • @elizabethjepkemoi7806
    @elizabethjepkemoi7806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sister, Why you allowed the 😈 devil to used you to talk bad thing about brother Brahman iam in the for more than twenty years never seen those things your talking about brother Brahman first of all your not Christian, you will answer them all the day of judgement

    • @annmariehursh2915
      @annmariehursh2915 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's a Christian, you're not, Branhamism is a cult. Stop threatening people who don't agree with you

  • @davidcriswell7784
    @davidcriswell7784 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Look up the word cult in the dictionary...the description of a cult fits every single prophet of the Bible including Jesus Christ himself...he only had 12 deciples...Jesus said "fear not little flock" followers of the Word have always been a very small group throughout the bible, so to say the Message is a cult is the wrong word, it's God's elect (which is a small group of people) you're walking on very dangerous ground cause Jesus said that one word against the holy ghost was unforgivable...I don't care who raises up and says they are sent by God I would NEVER SPEAK AGAINST THAT PERSON...the intelligent thing to do would be to just walk away and know that God is in control...I repeat...the INTELLIGENT thing to do...your on dangerous ground...only a fool would do what you are doing

    • @joycebaker8903
      @joycebaker8903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You mean like Paul spoke about Hymenaeus and Phyletus? Their message was spreading like cancer according to Paul

    • @joycebaker8903
      @joycebaker8903 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      2 Timothy 2

    • @nehmoomakor1872
      @nehmoomakor1872 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joycebaker8903 Lmao, love how he didn't reply. He's just speaking out of his behind and has nothing of substance to say. Every prophet had flaws but their prophecies still came true and they weren't known for doing false healings

  • @pedda-kf5wl
    @pedda-kf5wl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    William branham told the bible.
    Bible.
    says you need calling to have personal relationship with chirst.
    Man will make mistakes for sure because nobody is 100% perfect.
    If they(any person)are 100% perfect then they no longer need to be in this earth filled with lust and wickedness.

    • @sexicanag8299
      @sexicanag8299 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes... But does not the Bible, tells you what a false prophet will look like? So, why do people ignore that part???
      If he foretells a prophesy and it doesn't come to pass... What does that tell you? On scripture base, using scripture, what does it tell you?

    • @mattmurdock2868
      @mattmurdock2868 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Men are not perfect, but God's word is perfect.
      He put His Word in the mouth of the prophets, and by the Spirit of Christ, they prophecied.
      The men did not have to be perfect, when God put His word in their mouth, because His word is perfect.
      God has not put His word in this man's mouth.

  • @davidtrani190
    @davidtrani190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I challenge you that you are wrong about William Branham.

  • @dleyba3199
    @dleyba3199 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job darlin!

  • @shalomdesbiens2682
    @shalomdesbiens2682 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    if people want to see inside the message church i was born and grown up in im 25 year old now it look like this th-cam.com/video/kCLWobI2gIM/w-d-xo.html its young people my age singing before the sermon beging they sing in french we are french canadian i was rase in the message and still am and i can say she embelish her story and say things without context she dont explaine the why of why in her other video but at least she still a christian btw i dont mean to start a debate ist just that i disagree whith what she say gby have a nice day pss sorry for my spelling