A Way of Dealing with Shasta Daisies That Fall Over

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  • @JP-fd4vf
    @JP-fd4vf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How in twenty five years of struggling to remove plants have I never thought of using a pick axe!? This is the greatest gardening find of the year!

  • @growtoeat4173
    @growtoeat4173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Totally agree with gardening you never stop and you never stop learning. You have an awesome garden.

  • @patriciashanks5870
    @patriciashanks5870 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love watching you. I feel the same way. EVERY year I say I'm finished moving plants. And I still keep moving, learning and growing. Thanks for sharing. God bless you.

  • @edmowrey9755
    @edmowrey9755 3 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Well that's certainly one way to deal with tall daisies that fall over--get rid of them! I thoroughly enjoyed watching your enthusiasm, but I'm still wondering how to deal with falling over daisies that I want to KEEP. LOL

    • @lgrillo
      @lgrillo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here! This solutions doesn’t actually answer the question. Felt like a bait and switch from the video name.

    • @Brockthedog315
      @Brockthedog315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I cut them back to the lower bud he showed.

  • @samanthabohr5284
    @samanthabohr5284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this style of just getting on with accept why works what does not and not over planning and then the growth of how a job changes

  • @richardc8029
    @richardc8029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I've had a problem with leggy plants like Shasta Daisies, Echinacea and Autumn Joy Sedums. This Spring I bought a roll of 30"high x 50' black welded fence. I cut off 30" lengths and made a barrel vault (a semi-cyclinder) about 14" high at the center that I set over the newly sprouted plants. I pushed the cut edges into the soil and added a garden staple. All the plants grew in a natural form through the fence and were supported. The fence completed disappeared into the foliage within a couple of weeks, and not one plant has fallen over yet (Sepember). Average cost $2 per plant.

    • @chalice3571
      @chalice3571 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now, that's being ingenious!

    • @grahamthomas411
      @grahamthomas411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can you do the chealsea chop !! May help

    • @barit924
      @barit924 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The “Chelsea Chop” works beautifully on the sedums.

    • @jimsgardenproject3507
      @jimsgardenproject3507 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      barit924 problem I’ve found with the sedums though is the new growth is thinner and falls over more easily. Thicker plant but you’ll need to keep it really short

    • @barit924
      @barit924 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jims Garden project - They grow into a tight dome for me. Depends on your soil and light levels, probably.

  • @bunnyfrancis7006
    @bunnyfrancis7006 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You Sir, are a gem to say the least. I am in the USA watching you ........loving every minute. Thank you for sharing and helping us all have better gardens and more fun doing it. Love you for all you do for gardens and animals.

  • @mmsanrio
    @mmsanrio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had it on 1.5x speed for a video prior, but kept it. You’re about as energetic as gardener Ciscoe Morris! Love your pup! 🐶

  • @sarahwbs
    @sarahwbs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Me: Ooo, what's that pretty pink flower next to the daisies?
    John: *hacks plant with ax*

    • @bernadette1510
      @bernadette1510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The pretty plant next to daisies that were🙈😂 is persicaria.

  • @agonz1438
    @agonz1438 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love to watch your passion! Thank you for sharing your gorgeous garden!

  • @pansepot1490
    @pansepot1490 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    To be fair to the poor Shasta daisies it is difficult not to flop when growing almost under a huge hydrangea bush. 😁

  • @ashlimac
    @ashlimac 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    My heart hurts to see the lovely blooms hacked out and trampled. But it’s obvious you are an artist and know very well your craft. Amazing (but painful) to watch.

  • @victoriajimenez2161
    @victoriajimenez2161 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my nights gardening and thank you for all I being learning from your channel!🙏

  • @juliejay5436
    @juliejay5436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey, as always, fantastic video, it's a joy to watch you working and transforming this gorgeous place. Many thanks.

  • @sc3pt1c4L
    @sc3pt1c4L 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    welcome to another episode of John Lord butchers plants

    • @verawallace9055
      @verawallace9055 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      😀😀 funny

    • @zerogoldfish201
      @zerogoldfish201 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I was quite happy to find this channel and to see a professional do it that way. Took a whole lot of guilty feelings off me.

    • @moonpi4604
      @moonpi4604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But he butchers them with love...for their own good.

  • @lindaadams1008
    @lindaadams1008 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can just tell everything he touches turns to something beautiful...

  • @nspector
    @nspector 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Ya, like others are saying, why not prune the daisies in late May/early June, even mid June so that they're shorter, fuller, and less likely to flop?
    Hey! Thrilled to see those cutting John stuck in the ground last year because after watching that video this past spring, I went out and took hardwood cuttings from a 100 year old hydrangea (yes! original planting with the house that turned 100 this year) that now gets almost no light, and a 100 year old once-beautiful rose bush that is now so shaded it barely grows, let alone flowers. Aaaaand, after doing nothing but sticking them in the ground (and watering them...I'm not in Ireland, alas), about half of them took, like John said, and I'm thrilled. So: Thank you for that so much.

    • @juliejay5436
      @juliejay5436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      NSpector that is amazing, I didn't know hydrangeas and roses could live longer than most people. Fantastic.

    • @nspector
      @nspector 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliejay5436 They do! Unfortunately, the lilac which was planted at the same time just sort of stopped growing a few years ago, not dead, but not growing even tho I cut back 2/3 of it 7. 8 years ago. Looked it up this spring and found out that their life span is, coincidentally, about 100 years. So....will probably have to take it out soon. : (

  • @laurenb6451
    @laurenb6451 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am rationing my watching of your lovely videos but like everybody else I sure hope you make some more!
    1.I’ve used my brother’s mattock, it is very useful for making neat narrow drainage channels but it is really heavy for me. After some thought though, I can’t think of anything better for a fight.
    2. I am trying out a Helenium called Mardi Gras. It seems to be very dwarf and it is a blooming beast! Just about everything else is done but it is still unscathed by the frosts we have had and in full bloom. I hope to divide it or take cuttings next year.
    3.I was absolutely surprised that you would consider shasta daisies to go in front of the hydrangea and was saying to the screen, “Try this cute Helenium.”
    4. I still cannot just rip out plants and discard them. I either give them away or plant them in a strip in the very back of my yard. Cuz I am not a professional and am too sentimental.

  • @8806Erika
    @8806Erika 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omg lol when you started hacking away I died 💀 😭

    • @Mony0425
      @Mony0425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol same here. I was going to try to thin mine out at least or give away

  • @MsArdieT
    @MsArdieT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I need those tools, and the muscles to use them!! I really like his methods!

  • @jackie5046
    @jackie5046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I'll take yas all on !" ,😂 Love it.
    He must have a lot of vases in the house.

  • @jessiehunter2559
    @jessiehunter2559 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Garding aside sir, you have the best collections of shirts!

  • @carmenbailey8209
    @carmenbailey8209 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I’m going to have to get one of those wide axe type chopper. You don’t mess around you just get the job done . 😊❤️👍

  • @cathy8819
    @cathy8819 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello from Pittsburgh, Pennsyvania. Home of the Penquins and Steelers.
    Your pup is adorable.
    Good choice with the gold flowers in front of the Annabelle.
    I didn't even know about the chelsie chop, and here I've been cutting down many flowers all along thinking I was an original.

  • @daniellegaudet1161
    @daniellegaudet1161 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Omg! Teddy at the end!

  • @mesenteria
    @mesenteria 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just catching up on some of John's older videos. Very delighted to see him come around on the lowly Helenium. When I first saw them open in my own garden, I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. They're in my top three or four flowers. Perhaps understandably, one of my other top four is the Gaillardia (blanket flower). Cone flowers included, and the treasure flower (Gazania). Love John's videos. Upbeat, fun, informative, and just visually so appealing.

  • @Dahliaismypassion
    @Dahliaismypassion 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kinda did the same to my annuals in their glory today in favor of Hydrangea shrubs 😂 Its hard but if you have a vision you gotta go for it😆Good job John, I enjoy your videos, you have a magnificent garden!

  • @annettebowersox1976
    @annettebowersox1976 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    “One man’s trash is another man’s treasure”. I wish my Shasta daisies were as lush as yours!! Thank you from the Ozark Mountains in Arkansas - The US!

    • @dabhenjiman8694
      @dabhenjiman8694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Annette Bowersox all depends what variety you got

  • @vallgrl2
    @vallgrl2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Easy to understand and enthusiastic

  • @benneb663
    @benneb663 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I knew you weren’t gonna put more white next to the hydrangea. I know you too well now.

    • @sweetwoodruff6246
      @sweetwoodruff6246 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ben Neb I was thinking the same thing. 🤣

  • @fseelye
    @fseelye 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fell in love with Heleniums a few years back myself. Very different and colorful look. Like a "birdie" in Badminton. Some do get leggy.

  • @SJLamb-te3dt
    @SJLamb-te3dt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It occurs to me that if you treated it like the helenium and chopped it down earlier on it may have flowered at a lower height and no flopping would have occured. Of course with a large garden like yours the clever thing may be to plant a shorter variety and skip the extra chore altogether.

  • @missmaryhdream6560
    @missmaryhdream6560 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Beautiful little dog. Don't you grow the dwarf sunflowers John, they are really cute x but they always remind me of overgrown daisies. I love that pampas grass lovely and shaggy.

  • @fderon
    @fderon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    RIP shasta daisies!

  • @happyfamily8624
    @happyfamily8624 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very nice video my friend I like it. like #
    400

  • @lindyresnick7418
    @lindyresnick7418 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The ones I had in full sun fell over. I noticed the ones I left in a shadier area stand nice and tall.

    • @laurenb6451
      @laurenb6451 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It can also be affected by soil fertility and amount of H2O.

  • @СветланаКузнецова-г9к
    @СветланаКузнецова-г9к 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I m happy with my shasta daisies, never thought they are floppy. Just learnt I have a shorter variety

  • @noracoolen2167
    @noracoolen2167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im with you John, if it has to be staked pull it up and replace

  • @chalice3571
    @chalice3571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Okay, Mr John Lord, please send these beautiful Shasta Daisies to me to Indiana.I will be glad to take them and care for them... please don't destroy them , but plant them on the side of the road somewhere, ...
    God bless you

  • @jimberg9243
    @jimberg9243 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Se your garden soon. We take a plane to Dublin in the late spring 2022. From Stockholm.

  • @andyhudgins9443
    @andyhudgins9443 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You should hear how the plants talk about him when he turns his back.....

  • @carmenbailey1560
    @carmenbailey1560 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gardening grows legs, how very true 😄😀😁

  • @movednorthhomestead7244
    @movednorthhomestead7244 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In part of your opening, you are standing next to a tall patch of something tall and white and you shake one. Just wondering what it is

  • @sharonp.6505
    @sharonp.6505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's killing me watching you digging up that beautiful ground cover persicaria. I've been looking for that plant for ages. Very difficult to find here in the USA. I love how rough you are with the plants. It has made me a more "fearless" gardener! LOL

  • @ruthkeeling-holt2031
    @ruthkeeling-holt2031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is the name of the pink flowering plant next to the Shasta Daisy.
    Really enjoy your show

    • @internette
      @internette 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was wondering the same. I think it is Persicaria affinis, from this video of John's - th-cam.com/video/zkZ2A1J3yu4/w-d-xo.html

    • @ruthkeeling-holt2031
      @ruthkeeling-holt2031 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@internette .... I think that you are correct !! Thank you

  • @tessmonro7102
    @tessmonro7102 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you mean the gravel was only put on for the soil? Thankyou- your videos are so informative and humerous 😁

    • @johnlordssecretgarden
      @johnlordssecretgarden  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean it was put on top of the soil to make a path without the usual hard core base underneath. It works fine if there’s no heavy traffic on it

    • @tessmonro7102
      @tessmonro7102 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnlordssecretgarden Thank you for replying. I live in New Zealand and love your videos - I take notes for my own garden😁

  • @destiny3423
    @destiny3423 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was wondering why you would put white Shasta daisy next to a white hydrangea. I am very happy I watched the video till the end and see you've changed your mind. 🤣 Now, can you please tell me how I can deal with with tall daisy I want to keep ?

  • @hilaryreed9763
    @hilaryreed9763 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos.

  • @convinth
    @convinth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My Bishops are somewhat smaller than yours, John. With larger varieties such as Riverton Beauty you do the Chelsea Chop at the end of May and it results in later flowering and less chance of flopping over.

  • @julieh7009
    @julieh7009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this!

  • @jimsgardenproject3507
    @jimsgardenproject3507 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    John, I have some rudbeckia maxima. They’ll grow as tall as 7-8’ but first slight wind they’re resting on the ground. They flower but are now curling to reach sunlight. Would I get the same affect as the sunflowers if I cut the original flowering stems with the maximas? Will trimming carnations do the same? My wife loves them but they fall over. I’m like you. I’ve removed a bunch of things because they just fall over.

    • @johnlordssecretgarden
      @johnlordssecretgarden  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve stopped growing the taller rudbeckias because they tend to fall over which is a pity because they are so elegant. I’ve never tried to Chelsea Chop them to reduce their height but it’s certainly worth a try. I might try it myself next year. Carnations are I think somewhat different and will naturally flop without staking.

    • @jimsgardenproject3507
      @jimsgardenproject3507 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Lord’s Secret Garden thanks John.

    • @jimsgardenproject3507
      @jimsgardenproject3507 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Lord’s Secret Garden I’m going to note for next year to try your cutting back method. I’ll talk to you in 9 months haha. Great garden and videos. Appreciate all the labels / names of plants.

  • @grahamthomas411
    @grahamthomas411 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you not do the chealsea chop to save it !!!!! Thanks for your time 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @cherylhaskell9830
    @cherylhaskell9830 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW! John reeally does "HATE" Shasta Daisies that fall over.

  • @Kerrin77JIH
    @Kerrin77JIH 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As the Hydrangeas in the background fall to the ground...but they are Hydrangeas! So, they get a pass. LOL

  • @jyotikagonsalves6505
    @jyotikagonsalves6505 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OMG.... poor daisies 🙁
    .... beautiful garden though !!

  • @convinth
    @convinth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From where did you get that floral print?! Not from your garden, I hope.

    • @juliejay5436
      @juliejay5436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      convinth it looks great on him though. It matches his colourful personality.

  • @wildlifegardener-tracey6206
    @wildlifegardener-tracey6206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why trample over all the pink flowers? Are you removing them too? Then you did.

  • @OldGardenerGuy
    @OldGardenerGuy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't know Tommy Tiernan had a gardening channel 😂😆😅

  • @beckyjones8285
    @beckyjones8285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh my god, that's brutal what a waste of plants ???

  • @frankanderson3503
    @frankanderson3503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also knew you woudnt put white in front of white

  • @TrungTran-yg3uv
    @TrungTran-yg3uv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the dark pink / pastel pink plant next to the daisies? Persicaria?

  • @GranRey-0
    @GranRey-0 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So would the Chelsea Chop have saved these Shastas? Although I think changing it up and adding more colour was a good choice too.
    4:50 John's true colours? xD
    Poor persicaria D:

  • @clarissamiles
    @clarissamiles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, well, that's one way to deal with it. Too drastic for me. Just todsy i spent 4 hours deadheading my shastas that fell over. But I just cut them at a bud and staked them up.

  • @neverlostforwords
    @neverlostforwords 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting to see how you resolved the problem with tall perennials that need staking or they will fall. I have those taller shasta daisies too and have to support them by surrounding them with stakes every summer. (See old video of shasta daisies on my channel.) Currently, as it is the start of spring, they are just starting to grow again. I will give them the Chelsea chop when they are around a foot high, and that will keep them a little smaller. I don't mind how they look when they are supported. They still look beautiful. :) But it's good to know there are smaller varieties, for when I tire of propping the tall ones up. I will be interested to see how your dwarf varieties look when they are fully grown. I do agree that a garden is never finished. There are always new areas to develop or old ones to refurbish. Thanks for the great video!

    • @flowerfairy1950
      @flowerfairy1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had a look at your channel but there appears to be only three short videos.

    • @pennyfulton3418
      @pennyfulton3418 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes , I've got the ones that start a beautiful buttery yellow and turn white with age , so the small white ones won't be the same ...
      All my plants seem to flop mid summer ! maybe too much manure , John doesn't like manure, I think because it makes the plants weak and sappy, hence floppy . The soil is so poor and dry otherwise though, a combination of having removed the top soil for wild meadow in the past, a hedgerow taking up all water and being hot south facing .
      When they are are a foot high, how much do you cut back ?

    • @neverlostforwords
      @neverlostforwords 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flowerfairy1950 Thanks for letting me know. There are more than just three videos. I will have a look into it.

  • @Thelmageddon
    @Thelmageddon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Me (new to this channel): Ooh good, someone's going to show me how to rescue my daisies that fell over in a storm....
    John: HACK!
    Me: 🤤
    😆 Hi everyone!

  • @mathafok3r
    @mathafok3r 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    best part @11:09

  • @dabhenjiman8694
    @dabhenjiman8694 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great in a fight😂😂

  • @tutsecret499
    @tutsecret499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why did you kill the daisies?

  • @flowerfairy1950
    @flowerfairy1950 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor Shasta cut off in her prime. Hah! I was thinking about Helenium for the Shasta spot.

    • @verawallace9055
      @verawallace9055 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I covered mine up in the Spring, it was too tall, now am going to start all over again with some seeds I have ,I saw Laura with the shorter ones, wish I could get some

  • @tiffanienguyen7174
    @tiffanienguyen7174 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What causes the Shasta Daisies to infested with aphids???

  • @LeyserDJGuate
    @LeyserDJGuate 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And a lot of people paying for roses in may 🤣 everywhere that’s insane 😅😅😅

  • @SuffolkSusie
    @SuffolkSusie 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brutal lol.😀 and genius. Just don't remove all the gravel for the puppies sake 😀

  • @redlantern3371
    @redlantern3371 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Savage!

  • @deltatrippers
    @deltatrippers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No one noticed that you Chelsea Chopped your hair. That floppy hair had to go. Looks good. You are now a spry young man.
    You didn't use your garden pruners did you?

  • @petitelidi
    @petitelidi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nope. I won't destroy them. When you grow them from seeds ...you cannot do that. They are beautiful in any way, even on the ground if they like so....

  • @Urko2005
    @Urko2005 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can deal with anything by getting rid of it lmao.

  • @fgb3126
    @fgb3126 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @4:30 you really should cut that Shasta back before digging it up. Make it easy on yourself Johnnie. And set a good example for your viewers too.

  • @nowirehangers2815
    @nowirehangers2815 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hate my daisies
    They are definitely going

  • @ISeeTreesAndRosesToo
    @ISeeTreesAndRosesToo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m kind of scared to watch your videos. I request you to please dig a plant out with some rootball 🙏 and give it your friends and family members. The otherwise healthy plans and the friends will appreciate it.

  • @TheGrubbyGirl
    @TheGrubbyGirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't think an 11 minute video on how to did up daisies is very useful

  • @nemroud
    @nemroud 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This guy has absolutly no respect on how he stomp on persicarias

  • @katharinedavis4947
    @katharinedavis4947 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You vandal John . Those poor persicarias ! K

  • @tlrandel
    @tlrandel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't like the color of your house? Burn it down!

  • @susanaloomis5478
    @susanaloomis5478 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WTF? THIS IS THE WORST GARDENER I SEEN ON TH-cam! WHY DONT YOU GIVE THE PLANTS AWAY INSTEAD OF BUTCHER THEM LIKE THAT? 😡