Vw plastic oil pans and PCV failures. Junk plastic water pumps. The Taos is the worst car ever made. Hesitations, blown head gaskets under a thousand miles fuel line fire risks. No parts available everything on backorder. Look at all the Jettas and Tiguan on the lots not selling.
The ID Buzz is almost worthless. Check the range (231 to 234 mi battery-only). The ladies at TFLEV did a day trip in Colorado and their charging concerns were not trivial.
Just another sign of manufacturers charging into EV's before consumers are ready. In addition, what percentage of Mercedes and Volkswagen sales are EV's versus ICE? I mean, if 90% of their sales are ICE vehicles, then a decline in EV sales is immaterial.
This is not an issue of charging into EV before consumers are ready, this is an issue of companies pricing the electric vehicles with giant premiums. Everyone is trying to follow Tesla, without the uniqueness of a market skimming plan that Tesla was running. The early adopters with cash got Tesla model S. Those people are already sold on high priced cars. Next companies need to lower the price to bring in newer customers as Tesla has done. But the other companies should have learned from GM and the volt. Price a volt at 40K and right next to it is its Ice cousin sitting at $17K, so gm sold lots of Cruises. An Electric F150 at $105K vs a regular work truck at 40K, and you are going to choose the 40K if you have any sense because you can never save the difference. Drop the price to be reasonable, and electric cars will sell.
True that the Chinese govt subsidizes their EV manufacturers, but are the state and federal "incentives" we make available are the same thing by a different name?
The company that puts out an inexpensive sedan. Simplified. For a good price that is reliable, will win. EV's are not cost effective. Give me a Corolla or Civic from 2000. Cheaper to make, cheaper to own. Lasts a long time. Making a new vehicle vs fixing what u have is always far more expensive
Cost per mile driven Corolla 35 mpg $3.50 a gallon $.10 just for gas. EV 3 miles per KW Nissan leaf 5k used. So 3 miles per $.15 worth of electric or .05 per mile. 1/2 the cost per mile before oil changes and tuneups and breaks
To be fair the other major contributor to car sales going down compared to 1986 is that cars last MUCH longer now compared to 1986. Back then a car was done at 100k miles. Now? A quality car could easily get 250k miles. Don’t need to purchase as many cars with that happening.
If you took care of your car in the mid 80s, it would go 250K miles, at least our Chevy products could go that far easily(Chevette, Malibu, Cutlass, Caprices, Impala that followed. as well as C10s, S10s, blazers, Camaros, Berrettas Bonnivilles, Sunbirds, etc.) Ford F150, Bronco,Taurus, Towncars Mustangs, Focus, etc... Never had dodge, and the K-car was less than a good bet. They went the distance if you did not have the money to buy a car every 4 years.
You are so wrong. The key to a car's longevity is good maintenance. You cannot tell me that an old iron block pushrod V8 or a straight 6 can't last. I had an '86 Merc with the 302 and C4 transmission, I had the transmission rebuilt at 110,000 miles and guess at what cost THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. The 302 v8 was like new. I could tune it up with new plugs and do an oild change in about an hour. I had a man have a heart attack and hit me at a red light. It was such a strong car, they put a new front bumper on and driver's side front fender and off I went. Why did I get rid of it? Well it needed a new A/c and the dash was all cracked and rotted. I sold it to a rancher for 750 dollars and he used it to round up cattle in the field. You could ride in that car all day and it was so comfortable you never got a backache and I woulkd get up to 25MPH on the hwy with the A/C at full blast.The stuff they make today is garbage compared to the cars back then.
@@JA-zh5xi From a safety standpoint, Fuel efficiency per HP, but not per vehicle due to increased weight and HP installed, and increased technology, sure I will bite on that. They are "better". But, today's cars lose based on defects per car and that the cars don't last as long as they use to. Increased HP and safety features leads to higher speeds, and more devastating crashes from people who think that they are safe in these vehicles, so the cars don't rust out like they use to, but are destroyed in the accident that happen to them. Keeping a car or truck for 10-12 year use to be the norm, but not any more. Either people are too rich now, or the cars and trucks are not lasting as long. You can not have it both ways.
True but it can be made much more free when government regulations are reigned in to a more reasonable level. Go back to the CAFE standard of the pre 2008 era.
Thank yall so much. I got nearly $4000 off my 2025 Toyota Camry LE w/Convenience Package. Paid nothing down and got Toyota Financing w/4.99 interest rate.
I'm a retired MB tech of 35 yrs. MB's been in trouble for yrs, the public doesn't know it. MB was part of the VW diesel scandal, losing billions. Products, parts, sales, service have deteriorated over the past 10 yrs. I've always wondered how they've kept their problems out of the publics eye. Yes, they're mostly to blame, but there's been other driving factors. Competition, EV evolution, even COVID.
So the three that are major players in China are way down. Not really big news here. Porsche (VW) announced major upgrades to their platform for 25 which crushed 24 sales. There are also thousands of cars coming off lease from the earlier manufacturers. Many folks looking for high end EVs are forgoing the depreciation hit and buying CPO cars.
ID.4 Stop sale had to do with the door handles having water ingress. Not sure why that fix took so long but it took toyota 3 or 4 months to figure out how to keep the wheels on the bz4x so who knows anymore lol. The Merc and the vw are fine in terms of charging and range. The vw had years of software issues so the reputation is bad even if it's fixed. The mercs are just overpriced for what they are, they're less fancy than the gas version but not much cheaper. 100k+ shoppers just have a different set of requirements than us normals and the EQS or high spec EQE doesn't cut the mustard.
I'm a current VW customer and so is my spouse. Actually out last 2 vehicles each havr been VW's (4 total since 2019). The ID4 is ugly and too bubbly, not enough range, slow charges, no network (in Fort Worth there is ONE Electrify America station, 10th largest city in the U.S......), the ID Buzz looks cool but is WAYYY over priced and has a horroble range (especially for it's size) and is insanely overpriced, along with the network and charging issues. I was actually considering the ID7, as I don't mind a full soze sedan/wagon type vehicle....but then VW delayed/stopped bringing it to the US/North America like 2 months before ot was supposed to launch?!?! I would rather get a VW that looks like a VW and you can tell is German. These new cars/suvs literally look like a Chevron cartoon brought to life....and not in a good way.
If Eevee's are so great why do you have to subsidize them they don't subsidize full-size pickup trucks because they sell especially if the price is right
@Ray, I don't disagree that China subsidizes companies but the US does it too. Rivian got 8 billion for a plant. Intel and other chip makers are getting checks. Tesla has had numerous government funding rounds.
EV sales in Canada are going to take a nose dive, as both the Federal Government and the Quebec Government are discontinuing rebates for EV sales. Glad I got my PHEV before the money ran out. All the auto makers are screaming here because of that, as they imported EVs into Canada, and now they will be sitting on them, and customers are cancelling orders, because of no rebates.
Chart is wrong. Tesla cars sales are not diwn 30k units. Just 4k units down from '23 to '24 on total 1.8 MILLION total EV sales. So their drop is TINY. YESLA and BYD will steamroll every ICE Maker on the planet.
What. The number is misleading. Tesla decline is only one percent. Those other manufacturer sales number are so small, they went from nothing to something. If you measure by the percentage,
I can get why VW is down if my personal experience is anything to go by. Went to local VW dealership -- saw ad for "$999 down, $149.00 a month" EV. Figured, maybe for around town, would be my first EV. Get there, some dumb looky-look young woman is clueless. Gets sales manager behind his glass wall office. He has NO CLUE about "the special" and starts flipping through some book. Sends out salesman, right out of central casting. Been at this 15 years. He has NO CLUE about the special. No clue about EVs. We go on a test drive, doors won't unlock, "they're working on fixing that." Car charge, it's a cold day, is dropping .... dropping. "Uh, well, uh." Salesman does not know where to charge, "we only have two" of the EV models, the ID4. So to make a long story short, when we went to switch drivers, again fiddling with the doors. For like 2 full minutes.
To continue my saga. The "$999" advertised comes to about $3400.00 after they tack on "900 dealer fee", and other fees. The $149" comes to close to $200.00. Salesman says "they can put whatever they want in those ads..." Very reassuring. The "dealer fee" is non negotiable. This was stupid wasted time. They had all of 2 cars, one base model. They had what appeared to be ZERO interest in moving a vehicle out the door. Didn't know squat about the vehicle.
I get them to spit out a sheet with some figures, leave. Salesman calls next day, "are you still interested?" and "someone else interested..." I ignore call, he texts me, I text back, passing. The ID 4 drove ok, like a Golf. If this was not the usual creepy bait and switch I was ready to sign and get the car. However, the entire sales experience was pathetic, annoying, the total lack of care, or knowledge about THEIR PRODUCT put me off -- not to mention that the "Stealership" model is apparently alive and well via bait and switch. I know, the fine print, the fine print.
I hate subsidies. That means us sucker taxpayers who can’t afford to buy a car are helping those who can buy theirs The Challenger Scat “RAT” has a big incentive, yet has a 20,000 day supply.
EVs main value proposition is saving money but you can't at that price point, also the technology is new and not trusted and then you've got the other points of range charge times and depreciation so why would they be worth 80k+
Part of the reason vehicle prices are so high is all the requirements for items within the vehicle. In 1986, there was far lower requirements than their is today. So you forcibly add items to a vehicle, those vehicles will cost more. Add in all of this new technology and prices will also go up. Then you add in the push for EV's to fight "climate change" that are priced below manufacturing costs to make them within reach of some of the market, and you have a recipe for massive price hikes. You want to lower costs, you need to get rid of all the garbage in the vehicles, drop the EV sector (until it is feasible on it's own), and quit worrying about the fake "climate change". Yes, climate change is fake. The average global temperature of the Earth over the past 550 million years is just over 68*F, and current average global temperatures is just over 60*F. We are still coming out of the last ice age. Also to note, more than 50% of the past 550 million years the Earth was polar ice cap free. Like it or not, the Earth will continue to heat up for at least another 50,000 years, as long as we don't see a Super Volcano eruption or have a large asteroid hit.
From everything I've see, Chinese autos are much better than what we have here in the U.S. lots of reviews online. They have cars that can jump potholes and float across rivers 😮 I've been really disappointed with the German electrics. Tesla would be my number one electric and then GM. The Japanese are so far behind that only old people are buying their electrics because of their comfort with Japanese ICE vehicle quality and don't understand the EV tech.
The entire EV market is falling apart. Why single out VW and Mercedes? Brands like Ford will only show a gain because they weren't selling many EV's in prior years.
VW software stinks which is why they partnered with Rivian recently. Rivian converted an Audi EV into a Rivian with new modules and software and everything worked great. It blew away the VW Execs and this is how the VW/Rivian deal happened. The new Scout line from VW will be based on Rivian computers and software too.
Looking at the volume change for 1 year tells you nothing. Where are the total sales for 2023 vs 2024! I was having a discussion with an AI Language Model about the odds Toyota will survive to 2030. I gave it a 5% chance and the AI gave it a 15-20% chance of survival. Let's remember that Toyota as of today sells more vehicles than everybody.
Please talk about Tesla's drop by over 30,000 vehicles, 2023-2024. What's going on there? Has the bottom fallen out for them in China plus they're too expensive everywhere else?
No that was US sales change they showed. But I think they are also getting slaughtered in China by BYD and others. All the foreign manufacturers have been losing sales of all types of vehicles in China big time to cheaper domestic cars.
Writing is on the wall! The first auto maker that makes an EV around 20k in the US thats high quality, it will take a major marketshare. Global Climate crisis demands it, so does the consumer that doesn’t have the money.
NO there is no benefit of reducing CO2 emissions to global climate. Firstly small changes in CO2 is having an unknown (likely small) effect on average global temperature. Second most of the increase in CO2 comes from volcanoes and other natural sources, NOT human emissions. Thirdly, even if we reduced CO2 emissions to zero, the developing world is not going to do anything but keep increasing theirs. Fourth, the USA in particular is going to need to burn coal and hydrocarbons (thus emitting CO2) to generate the extra electricity for the EVs.
The same is true all over America in all kinds of industries such as housing. Super wealthy own the means of production and change the company to market themselves to the rich only. This is because wealth has become so unevenly distributed, where Elon paid himself on one of his bonuses, more money than 2 and a half million full time minimum wage workers would make in a year combined. As the saying goes, to make money you should deal with those who have it (and let the middle class and poor buy a used car or walk, and let them be homeless as well). I just wish America would pay those actually doing the work.
Food- 'at least' doubled $ on average, Homes- 'at least' doubled $ on average, Vehicles- 'at least' $ doubled on average. Our children's future has been decimated because of this. It's WAY past time to DEMAND TRIPLE WAGES, & refuse to return to work unless we collectively get it!
BEV vehicle sales are up x % .What is that in units sold? The EV market is skewed because that is what happens when the government is mandating what consumers should buy. This is especially true in Europe! Get a grip guys!
my opinion...anyone who pays for a super chat to get your question answered (hopefully) is a fool. anyone who pays for their car buying service is a bigger fool.
China Vehicle Manufacturers of EVs are producing under 30k EVs. They look better than Tesla. It could cost 3 k for shipping them to the US. The battery pack chargers faster in 15 minutes at the fast charging.
Car Edge Live wouldn't be the same without Ray's opening shenanigans!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Vw plastic oil pans and PCV failures. Junk plastic water pumps. The Taos is the worst car ever made. Hesitations, blown head gaskets under a thousand miles fuel line fire risks. No parts available everything on backorder. Look at all the Jettas and Tiguan on the lots not selling.
The ID Buzz is almost worthless. Check the range (231 to 234 mi battery-only). The ladies at TFLEV did a day trip in Colorado and their charging concerns were not trivial.
And that was supposed to be the POSITIVE video.
They enjoyed the goats though on the 12/17/24 YT video.
Just another sign of manufacturers charging into EV's before consumers are ready. In addition, what percentage of Mercedes and Volkswagen sales are EV's versus ICE? I mean, if 90% of their sales are ICE vehicles, then a decline in EV sales is immaterial.
This is not an issue of charging into EV before consumers are ready, this is an issue of companies pricing the electric vehicles with giant premiums. Everyone is trying to follow Tesla, without the uniqueness of a market skimming plan that Tesla was running. The early adopters with cash got Tesla model S. Those people are already sold on high priced cars. Next companies need to lower the price to bring in newer customers as Tesla has done. But the other companies should have learned from GM and the volt. Price a volt at 40K and right next to it is its Ice cousin sitting at $17K, so gm sold lots of Cruises. An Electric F150 at $105K vs a regular work truck at 40K, and you are going to choose the 40K if you have any sense because you can never save the difference. Drop the price to be reasonable, and electric cars will sell.
A percentage sales change chart versus your reduced quantity would be much more illustrative.
True that the Chinese govt subsidizes their EV manufacturers, but are the state and federal "incentives" we make available are the same thing by a different name?
Seriously what do you call up to $10K a car between Fed and State in some States.
Let's not forget government bailouts for GM & Chrysler not to many moons ago and, for the same $100 billion amount!
BMW is not doing so hot too. You don’t see beamers on Washington state streets anymore.
The company that puts out an inexpensive sedan. Simplified. For a good price that is reliable, will win. EV's are not cost effective. Give me a Corolla or Civic from 2000. Cheaper to make, cheaper to own. Lasts a long time. Making a new vehicle vs fixing what u have is always far more expensive
Cost per mile driven Corolla 35 mpg $3.50 a gallon $.10 just for gas. EV 3 miles per KW Nissan leaf 5k used. So 3 miles per $.15 worth of electric or .05 per mile. 1/2 the cost per mile before oil changes and tuneups and breaks
BYD slashes prices across its entire EV line in Australia undercutting Tesla
To be fair the other major contributor to car sales going down compared to 1986 is that cars last MUCH longer now compared to 1986. Back then a car was done at 100k miles. Now? A quality car could easily get 250k miles. Don’t need to purchase as many cars with that happening.
If you took care of your car in the mid 80s, it would go 250K miles, at least our Chevy products could go that far easily(Chevette, Malibu, Cutlass, Caprices, Impala that followed. as well as C10s, S10s, blazers, Camaros, Berrettas Bonnivilles, Sunbirds, etc.) Ford F150, Bronco,Taurus, Towncars Mustangs, Focus, etc... Never had dodge, and the K-car was less than a good bet. They went the distance if you did not have the money to buy a car every 4 years.
You are so wrong. The key to a car's longevity is good maintenance. You cannot tell me that an old iron block pushrod V8 or a straight 6 can't last. I had an '86 Merc with the 302 and C4 transmission, I had the transmission rebuilt at 110,000 miles and guess at what cost THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY DOLLARS. The 302 v8 was like new. I could tune it up with new plugs and do an oild change in about an hour. I had a man have a heart attack and hit me at a red light. It was such a strong car, they put a new front bumper on and driver's side front fender and off I went. Why did I get rid of it? Well it needed a new A/c and the dash was all cracked and rotted. I sold it to a rancher for 750 dollars and he used it to round up cattle in the field. You could ride in that car all day and it was so comfortable you never got a backache and I woulkd get up to 25MPH on the hwy with the A/C at full blast.The stuff they make today is garbage compared to the cars back then.
@ actually every bit of actual statistical tracking in the car industry says I’m right.
@@JA-zh5xi From a safety standpoint, Fuel efficiency per HP, but not per vehicle due to increased weight and HP installed, and increased technology, sure I will bite on that. They are "better". But, today's cars lose based on defects per car and that the cars don't last as long as they use to. Increased HP and safety features leads to higher speeds, and more devastating crashes from people who think that they are safe in these vehicles, so the cars don't rust out like they use to, but are destroyed in the accident that happen to them. Keeping a car or truck for 10-12 year use to be the norm, but not any more. Either people are too rich now, or the cars and trucks are not lasting as long. You can not have it both ways.
As long as government exists, there is no such thing as a free market
True but it can be made much more free when government regulations are reigned in to a more reasonable level. Go back to the CAFE standard of the pre 2008 era.
You mean a$ long a$ $$$ control$ our politic$
Thank yall so much. I got nearly $4000 off my 2025 Toyota Camry LE w/Convenience Package. Paid nothing down and got Toyota Financing w/4.99 interest rate.
the affordability crisis is evident in the number of small Buicks that I see on the road...normally it's 80% Subarus here in Flagstaff!
I'm a retired MB tech of 35 yrs. MB's been in trouble for yrs, the public doesn't know it. MB was part of the VW diesel scandal, losing billions. Products, parts, sales, service have deteriorated over the past 10 yrs. I've always wondered how they've kept their problems out of the publics eye. Yes, they're mostly to blame, but there's been other driving factors. Competition, EV evolution, even COVID.
So the three that are major players in China are way down. Not really big news here. Porsche (VW) announced major upgrades to their platform for 25 which crushed 24 sales. There are also thousands of cars coming off lease from the earlier manufacturers. Many folks looking for high end EVs are forgoing the depreciation hit and buying CPO cars.
ID.4 Stop sale had to do with the door handles having water ingress. Not sure why that fix took so long but it took toyota 3 or 4 months to figure out how to keep the wheels on the bz4x so who knows anymore lol.
The Merc and the vw are fine in terms of charging and range. The vw had years of software issues so the reputation is bad even if it's fixed. The mercs are just overpriced for what they are, they're less fancy than the gas version but not much cheaper. 100k+ shoppers just have a different set of requirements than us normals and the EQS or high spec EQE doesn't cut the mustard.
The auto insurance on a new vehicle is unaffordable
Thank you for the window sticker feature for free on the car edge site. This will be good.
The Golf Cart market is niche and selling these at higher prices than traditional ICE vehicles is not the smartest marketing campaign.
Mercedes sales were up 9% in 2024.
I'm a current VW customer and so is my spouse. Actually out last 2 vehicles each havr been VW's (4 total since 2019). The ID4 is ugly and too bubbly, not enough range, slow charges, no network (in Fort Worth there is ONE Electrify America station, 10th largest city in the U.S......), the ID Buzz looks cool but is WAYYY over priced and has a horroble range (especially for it's size) and is insanely overpriced, along with the network and charging issues. I was actually considering the ID7, as I don't mind a full soze sedan/wagon type vehicle....but then VW delayed/stopped bringing it to the US/North America like 2 months before ot was supposed to launch?!?! I would rather get a VW that looks like a VW and you can tell is German. These new cars/suvs literally look like a Chevron cartoon brought to life....and not in a good way.
If EV sales include hybrids, it's a misleading graph.
Ray: if access to a network of fast chargers was key to BEV sales, why did Tesla slip so bad??
Great discussion
These guys totally ignore the Chinese EV’s. Better quality, lower prices and reliability, none of which is offered in the USA
Always go that route Ray!!!!
If Eevee's are so great why do you have to subsidize them they don't subsidize full-size pickup trucks because they sell especially if the price is right
@Ray, I don't disagree that China subsidizes companies but the US does it too. Rivian got 8 billion for a plant. Intel and other chip makers are getting checks. Tesla has had numerous government funding rounds.
Great info guys, just fun to know stuff!
EV sales in Canada are going to take a nose dive, as both the Federal Government and the Quebec Government are discontinuing rebates for EV sales. Glad I got my PHEV before the money ran out.
All the auto makers are screaming here because of that, as they imported EVs into Canada, and now they will be sitting on them, and customers are cancelling orders, because of no rebates.
Chart is wrong. Tesla cars sales are not diwn 30k units. Just 4k units down from '23 to '24 on total 1.8 MILLION total EV sales. So their drop is TINY. YESLA and BYD will steamroll every ICE Maker on the planet.
SHOCKING the thumbnail does not include the word SHOCK in some form
Is it goverment assistance that help chinese makers or is it us corporate greed that hurts themselves?
As many a 10,000 vehicles will be required in L A. What impact? M.
What. The number is misleading. Tesla decline is only one percent. Those other manufacturer sales number are so small, they went from nothing to something. If you measure by the percentage,
I can get why VW is down if my personal experience is anything to go by. Went to local VW dealership -- saw ad for "$999 down, $149.00 a month" EV. Figured, maybe for around town, would be my first EV. Get there, some dumb looky-look young woman is clueless. Gets sales manager behind his glass wall office. He has NO CLUE about "the special" and starts flipping through some book. Sends out salesman, right out of central casting. Been at this 15 years. He has NO CLUE about the special. No clue about EVs. We go on a test drive, doors won't unlock, "they're working on fixing that." Car charge, it's a cold day, is dropping .... dropping. "Uh, well, uh." Salesman does not know where to charge, "we only have two" of the EV models, the ID4. So to make a long story short, when we went to switch drivers, again fiddling with the doors. For like 2 full minutes.
To continue my saga. The "$999" advertised comes to about $3400.00 after they tack on "900 dealer fee", and other fees. The $149" comes to close to $200.00. Salesman says "they can put whatever they want in those ads..." Very reassuring. The "dealer fee" is non negotiable. This was stupid wasted time. They had all of 2 cars, one base model. They had what appeared to be ZERO interest in moving a vehicle out the door. Didn't know squat about the vehicle.
I get them to spit out a sheet with some figures, leave. Salesman calls next day, "are you still interested?" and "someone else interested..." I ignore call, he texts me, I text back, passing. The ID 4 drove ok, like a Golf. If this was not the usual creepy bait and switch I was ready to sign and get the car. However, the entire sales experience was pathetic, annoying, the total lack of care, or knowledge about THEIR PRODUCT put me off -- not to mention that the "Stealership" model is apparently alive and well via bait and switch. I know, the fine print, the fine print.
To end saga, so DO TELL why VW is "in trouble." Do tell. Great TH-cam show, men, I have been watching for abut a year.
I hate subsidies. That means us sucker taxpayers who can’t afford to buy a car are helping those who can buy theirs
The Challenger Scat “RAT” has a big incentive, yet has a 20,000 day supply.
EVs main value proposition is saving money but you can't at that price point, also the technology is new and not trusted and then you've got the other points of range charge times and depreciation so why would they be worth 80k+
Part of the reason vehicle prices are so high is all the requirements for items within the vehicle. In 1986, there was far lower requirements than their is today. So you forcibly add items to a vehicle, those vehicles will cost more. Add in all of this new technology and prices will also go up. Then you add in the push for EV's to fight "climate change" that are priced below manufacturing costs to make them within reach of some of the market, and you have a recipe for massive price hikes.
You want to lower costs, you need to get rid of all the garbage in the vehicles, drop the EV sector (until it is feasible on it's own), and quit worrying about the fake "climate change".
Yes, climate change is fake. The average global temperature of the Earth over the past 550 million years is just over 68*F, and current average global temperatures is just over 60*F. We are still coming out of the last ice age. Also to note, more than 50% of the past 550 million years the Earth was polar ice cap free. Like it or not, the Earth will continue to heat up for at least another 50,000 years, as long as we don't see a Super Volcano eruption or have a large asteroid hit.
I want a Buzz until I get one.
From everything I've see, Chinese autos are much better than what we have here in the U.S. lots of reviews online. They have cars that can jump potholes and float across rivers 😮 I've been really disappointed with the German electrics. Tesla would be my number one electric and then GM. The Japanese are so far behind that only old people are buying their electrics because of their comfort with Japanese ICE vehicle quality and don't understand the EV tech.
People think it's the end of the world.....spend till backruptcy, enjoy life now and worry about everything later😅
The entire EV market is falling apart. Why single out VW and Mercedes? Brands like Ford will only show a gain because they weren't selling many EV's in prior years.
EVs still suck for most people.
No, the great show guys thanks
VW software stinks which is why they partnered with Rivian recently. Rivian converted an Audi EV into a Rivian with new modules and software and everything worked great. It blew away the VW Execs and this is how the VW/Rivian deal happened. The new Scout line from VW will be based on Rivian computers and software too.
It's over! The car world is ending now! The sky is on fire! We dont need the water! Give it to LA!
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Ray gave us some facts about China, politics have nothing to do with it.
Looking at the volume change for 1 year tells you nothing. Where are the total sales for 2023 vs 2024!
I was having a discussion with an AI Language Model about the odds Toyota will survive to 2030. I gave it a 5% chance and the AI gave it a 15-20% chance of survival. Let's remember that Toyota as of today sells more vehicles than everybody.
Oh my gosh, go jeepers another car company in trouble. What’s next Godzilla? I got the flu.
Please talk about Tesla's drop by over 30,000 vehicles, 2023-2024. What's going on there? Has the bottom fallen out for them in China plus they're too expensive everywhere else?
No that was US sales change they showed. But I think they are also getting slaughtered in China by BYD and others. All the foreign manufacturers have been losing sales of all types of vehicles in China big time to cheaper domestic cars.
Just make simple basic cheap vehicles, people will buy them.
So cox says. 😮
Writing is on the wall! The first auto maker that makes an EV around 20k in the US thats high quality, it will take a major marketshare. Global Climate crisis demands it, so does the consumer that doesn’t have the money.
NO there is no benefit of reducing CO2 emissions to global climate. Firstly small changes in CO2 is having an unknown (likely small) effect on average global temperature. Second most of the increase in CO2 comes from volcanoes and other natural sources, NOT human emissions. Thirdly, even if we reduced CO2 emissions to zero, the developing world is not going to do anything but keep increasing theirs. Fourth, the USA in particular is going to need to burn coal and hydrocarbons (thus emitting CO2) to generate the extra electricity for the EVs.
Is Ray waking up to the great American con where myth after myth is getting busted!
The same is true all over America in all kinds of industries such as housing. Super wealthy own the means of production and change the company to market themselves to the rich only. This is because wealth has become so unevenly distributed, where Elon paid himself on one of his bonuses, more money than 2 and a half million full time minimum wage workers would make in a year combined. As the saying goes, to make money you should deal with those who have it (and let the middle class and poor buy a used car or walk, and let them be homeless as well). I just wish America would pay those actually doing the work.
Food- 'at least' doubled $ on average, Homes- 'at least' doubled $ on average, Vehicles- 'at least' $ doubled on average. Our children's future has been decimated because of this. It's WAY past time to DEMAND TRIPLE WAGES, & refuse to return to work unless we collectively get it!
You can buy an EV in China for 9k of course global ev sales are up 🤣
Vw died with the vr6
BEV vehicle sales are up x % .What is that in units sold? The EV market is skewed because that is what happens when the government is mandating what consumers should buy. This is especially true in Europe! Get a grip guys!
Shocking.
thank you
I can testament there's a lot of fools in Sacramento ❤😊
Not my problem, ha,ha.
my opinion...anyone who pays for a super chat to get your question answered (hopefully) is a fool. anyone who pays for their car buying service is a bigger fool.
China Vehicle Manufacturers of EVs are producing under 30k EVs. They look better than Tesla. It could cost 3 k for shipping them to the US. The battery pack chargers faster in 15 minutes at the fast charging.
In South America they are doing bad,not in sales but in quality control.
Yeah, and China’s EV’s are catching fire at an all-time high! But it’s not being reported.
I’d Wait 30 days
The auto.market sytrm.is eating itself @ this point..
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