I liked to imagine the two crossbows in the bayle fight were two little igons shooting a hail of harpoons, apropriate screaming and all. this run was... delicious. Hyped to see what else you have in store... and also patiently waiting for the elden roll to return
Hey ICG. I'm sorry your more recent vids aren't pulling the mad numbers your first few ER challenge videos did a couple years ago. If it helps, I really like watching them and I wish more people would. They'd enjoy it, I'm sure.
That feeling when you been stuck on a fight for like a whole day literally and you finally get him and turn your character towards the camera just standing there... i know that feeling brother. crazy stuff you managed to pull this off.
It's always a joy to see a new video of yours. I usually watch them when I go to bed and problably watched each one of your challenges 10 times or more. Thank you!!
I know this tip isn't useful for this run, but I've found that the deflecting hard tear and using guard counters is a great way to deal with Commander Gaius. Pretty much turns the fight into Gyobu from Sekiro.
i tried doing this with a hand balista build. I couldn't do it. I got to falling star beast in volcano manor and sadly the damage wasn't gonna scale either
I haven't finished the video yet, but I'm happy to see the follow-ups to videos I'd watched a while back. Your commentary is always entertaining. I really do hope the almighty algorithm turns its attention towards you. Thanks for the great content!
I don't really comment often (just like and be on my way) but honestly all of your videos are of such a high production quality that you really do deserve whatever little extra boost I can give here lol Your challenge runs are always an absolute treat to watch, and I'm excited to see what you come up with next. Keep it up.
Iv never said it out loud because I thought I was just trash, but it's nice to know someone else experienced that dodge roll buffering issue too. I would often feel like I got hit once and proceed to be unable to dodge again for a minute usually leading to death.
I'm currently doing a run to try and kill as few times as possible in the DLC. Hornsent is one of the wrinkles that had to be dealt with. I just needed to be summoned by Leda to witness her kill him. Thankfully, it only took a couple tries for her to do it without me helping or hindering.
I believe there's a way to keep Moore out of the fight without killing him with the power of depression. It's either if you never answer his question what to do after Miquellas charm is broken, or if you tell him you don't know.
I just had a very similar experience with Romina on a caster build last night. She was surprisingly difficult, after having no problem at with her on me melee builds. This particular caster is limited to only INT/FTH scaling spells, none of which did particularly excellent damage to her. It only took me about 30 minutes, but I'm sure it would have been hellish at the DPS you're putting out.
I forget exactly what I used on her, I think it was mostly lightning. She's not especially strong against magic or any other element and has 0 fire resist.
Well, it's also just a conflict of interests. You want to stop Miquella whereas Freyja is happy to let him do his thing and resurrect Radahn because she likes the guy.
I am doing my own challenge run using Dry Leaf Arts and Danes Footwork originally I was only going to do the main game and decided to do the DLC and I finished the Leda and allies fight today and I didn't talk to Hornsent after we killed Messmer and I told Moore to put it behind him so in that fight I had to go against Freyja, Hornsent, Moore, Dane and Leda luckily I had Ansbach and Thoillier on my side and my mimic of course.
@@ShinxBOOM247They dont have all the information when something first comes out but get to it eventually and usually confirm it with datamining, tho the DLC is taking awhile to fill out. It might be incomplete for awhile but its also usually a lot more accurate than other random guides written by one person in 6 hours the day the DLC released. If you search online for how to fight Putrescent Knight like 15 different content aggregation sites copying off of each other will suggest using bleed builds bc "hes very weak to bleed." Even Google's garbage AI will now source these articles to say the same thing. Putrescent Knight is completely immune to blood loss.
i beat radahn once with no cheese but now I just respec to shield poke and rly eases the mind not having the dread in the back of your mind every new game 😊
17:53 yeah, running straight backwards during Bayle's fly by fireball attack as soon as he starts shooting isn't the play. The trick to consistently dodging the barrage (or at least what's worked for me) is to run to the left or right before slowly turning to run backwards around the end of the barrage so you can more easily dodge the slide at the end of it
my editor chose a slightly bad clip there, for a long time my main dodge method was run back and to the right, sort of "diagonal back" (which only SOMETIMES got me hit). my editor chose the one clip where i was running straight back lol. i've learned now that the correct way to run away is just "hold hard right" and you'll be fine.
There is actually a way to get invaded by Hornsent just before Romina’s boss room. In the rot swamp, going up the ramp, Hornsent spawns to kill you. Kill him here he will not show up. Also telling Morre that you don’t know what to do he will not show up in the gank
i feel like its a shame that radahn is immune to sleep. it'd be a neat little weakness to be able to briefly stun him with a nap like you can with rykard
since this isn't getting as much attention as your older er challenge runs, I'll do my part and comment to boost in the al-gore-rithm. anyways love your humour and skill, and good luck with your new up and coming rolling only run starring the worst spell of the dlc ;P
Will always enjoy your content! Always had this question, is it just me or has anyone else die more times to the boar than actual "Commander Gaius"? Would've been great get a remember for the boar specifically and get the boar helmet
Unfortunately if Fromsoft fixed Promised Consort's pincer slash attack to be avoidable, a bunch of gatekeeping assholes would just say "You didn't REALLY beat them unless you downpatch" or smthn dumb like that.
yeah, but they're the minority. these days they kinda tend to get chased away from "real" communities. i think people have gotten sick of that kind of elitism
Its a really cool battle royale with all the summoned NPCs on your side, but the enemy NPCs are also pretty strong & tanky so if you ended up fighting all of them (or are too stubborn to summons NPCs) it can be kinda brutal.
It's entirely because of the summons. So many people try so hard to do this fight solo when the fight is so aggressively *not* built for that. You can't force this fight like you could the Radahn Festival, and even if you ignore both Ansbach and Thollier you still get a Sanguine Noble to help you. Yet people ignore that, bang their head against the wall for hours, and complain that the fight is terrible.
@@winterdragon2004 its actually kinda funny seeing ppl refuse to use summons even for the fights that are explicitly designed for summons and it completely breaks their brains how hard it is
it'd be a lot easier i think. between the pulley and repeating crossbows for status buildup and a few of the other crossbows for raw damage, i think it could be pretty viable. the soldier's crossbow is just uniquely terrible in that its both weak AND lacks any special ability
@@ingeniousclownThe Repeating Crossbow is actually kind of arse for status. It has a brutal x0.55 status multiplier on its skill, meaning it's a lot slower to build status and very wasteful with bolts. The Pulley Crossbow is just the best in slot for status, especially since the spread crossbow got a status nerf in the last patch. The one use for the repeater is ironically that it may well be the best single shot crossbow option due to having above average base damage.
it is fixed now, it was definitely wrong before. my only solace is that even though i was wrong, the elemental bolts are only marginally better even with negative resists. 0 would be almost break even i think lol
As someone who has done challenge stuff and struggled to keep the integrity of the run, things like the Leda ganksquad fight in the DLC or even Rykard's mandatory gimmick weapon fight are so stilted against the player for not utilizing their "soft rules" i.e. using the Storm Ruler Clone or summoning NPCs/Spirit Ashes to balance the 1vMany. It hurts the pride but I get needing to just get through it, especially since you're making videos that need to come out within a "reasonable" timeframe.
@@ingeniousclownsure, but what i meant was that i’m confused how u thought that ur crossbow would match the speed of that shield throw ash of war from last vid
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The Leda invasion is truly, resoundingly the worst encounter in Elden Ring's DLC. I have not seen a single person, from casual player to challenge runner, say anything good about it. A lot of them aren't even including them in their videos anymore lmao! Far and away it's just the god damn worst...
I liked it on my first run, because it was an all-out 4v4 brawl with Me, my mimic, Thiollier and Ansbach on one side and Leda, Moore, Dale and Freyja on the other. Very chaotic and very fun, and it felt like the choices I made (opposing Leda at every turn while helping my two summons) had an impact on the plot Then I did my second playthrough, helped Leda every step of the way, and in the end she still turns on me and the game gives me a random Sanguine Noble NPC as a summon since I didn't help the other two. Absolute garbage. FromSoft had the opportunity to craft a story about dwindling loyalties where your choice of who to help matters and has an impact on the outcome (like an RPG would) yet they squandered it completely by making your choices not matter at all. What a waste.
38:31 nope, you're not the only one. This fight is total garbage no matter how good the arena or the music or the lore implication are. I guess the gank squad from DS2 finally has a rival, but that was optional at the very least
Yeah that cross slash isnt nearly as bad as you or many other ppl make it out to be. Like it is a normal attack, idk what to say. I never even knew ppl hated it untill i was already done with the fight. And to be clear I am not saying im good- I was at mid load and didnt have a prob. He can bring it out quick but its as simple as rolling in when he locks in for a new combo. Idk- no hate
If you can put out a video showcasing your method, I think the internet would thank you. But many others have already documented their attempts to do so with... let's say conflicting results to yours.
It's not just a "normal attack" though. No dodge can get through it except for a crucible backstep (with a very tight reaction time) or an extremely precise roll (with an extremely tight frame window). His single "back away cross slash" is easy, if that's what you're talking about. But the infamous "cross slash combo" is the one-two swing with each hand inwards, followed by the double swing with shockwave. Its the one-two that's a problem, the second swipe will hit you at least 90% of the time without hyper-specific positioning or loadouts.
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No matter how many views you get, know that there is a few hundred-thousand of us that will support you no matter what
that number seems overly optimistic at this point (have you SEEN my views these last few months?! lol) but I appreciate the sentiment
Just wait, the algorithm will re-find you. Then there will be millions of views (hopefully)
@@ingeniousclownthe algorithm will bless you again.
I liked to imagine the two crossbows in the bayle fight were two little igons shooting a hail of harpoons, apropriate screaming and all.
this run was... delicious.
Hyped to see what else you have in store... and also patiently waiting for the elden roll to return
delicious is a weird word to use but i appreciate it nonetheless lol
@@ingeniousclown not the weirdest positive adjective I used. Also, maybe eating dinner while watching made me think delicious
36:15 got you so hard the status proc'd both in game and IRL
Hey ICG. I'm sorry your more recent vids aren't pulling the mad numbers your first few ER challenge videos did a couple years ago.
If it helps, I really like watching them and I wish more people would. They'd enjoy it, I'm sure.
That feeling when you been stuck on a fight for like a whole day literally and you finally get him and turn your character towards the camera just standing there... i know that feeling brother. crazy stuff you managed to pull this off.
It's always a joy to see a new video of yours. I usually watch them when I go to bed and problably watched each one of your challenges 10 times or more. Thank you!!
I know this tip isn't useful for this run, but I've found that the deflecting hard tear and using guard counters is a great way to deal with Commander Gaius. Pretty much turns the fight into Gyobu from Sekiro.
the main problem with the deflecting tear in long runs is just the fact that it only lasts 3 minutes.
@@ingeniousclownFive minutes, apparently. Which is still a bit short for how long these fights take on your runs.
I think fire arrows work like fire pots for overloading furnace golems. At least I get that impression. Wonder if that goes for bolts.
Love your commentary style and the Hades music!
Omg this was a fun one to watch. Your suffering for us is so greatly appreciated!
i tried doing this with a hand balista build. I couldn't do it. I got to falling star beast in volcano manor and sadly the damage wasn't gonna scale either
A collab with Skumnut might help, your runs are pure suffering and so are his. And you could have the beef settling narrative from 2 years ago.
I haven't finished the video yet, but I'm happy to see the follow-ups to videos I'd watched a while back. Your commentary is always entertaining. I really do hope the almighty algorithm turns its attention towards you. Thanks for the great content!
Love this video, all your uploads are great🔥🔥🔥
I don't really comment often (just like and be on my way) but honestly all of your videos are of such a high production quality that you really do deserve whatever little extra boost I can give here lol
Your challenge runs are always an absolute treat to watch, and I'm excited to see what you come up with next. Keep it up.
Iv never said it out loud because I thought I was just trash, but it's nice to know someone else experienced that dodge roll buffering issue too. I would often feel like I got hit once and proceed to be unable to dodge again for a minute usually leading to death.
I'm currently doing a run to try and kill as few times as possible in the DLC. Hornsent is one of the wrinkles that had to be dealt with. I just needed to be summoned by Leda to witness her kill him. Thankfully, it only took a couple tries for her to do it without me helping or hindering.
Garrus: I heard 'calibration' and came immediately.
I believe there's a way to keep Moore out of the fight without killing him with the power of depression. It's either if you never answer his question what to do after Miquellas charm is broken, or if you tell him you don't know.
I just had a very similar experience with Romina on a caster build last night. She was surprisingly difficult, after having no problem at with her on me melee builds.
This particular caster is limited to only INT/FTH scaling spells, none of which did particularly excellent damage to her. It only took me about 30 minutes, but I'm sure it would have been hellish at the DPS you're putting out.
I forget exactly what I used on her, I think it was mostly lightning. She's not especially strong against magic or any other element and has 0 fire resist.
If I recall the reason Freyja fights you is because she sees you as a great warrior and so she wants a piece of you.
Well, it's also just a conflict of interests.
You want to stop Miquella whereas Freyja is happy to let him do his thing and resurrect Radahn because she likes the guy.
I am doing my own challenge run using Dry Leaf Arts and Danes Footwork originally I was only going to do the main game and decided to do the DLC and I finished the Leda and allies fight today and I didn't talk to Hornsent after we killed Messmer and I told Moore to put it behind him so in that fight I had to go against Freyja, Hornsent, Moore, Dane and Leda luckily I had Ansbach and Thoillier on my side and my mimic of course.
The second phase of messmer has 0 resistance to holy, first phase has about 40 resistance
fextralife didnt have that information when i wrote the script and did the run, when i had checked it just said messmer had 0 holy resist. damn
Gotta love Fextralife just... not having all of the information
@@ShinxBOOM247They dont have all the information when something first comes out but get to it eventually and usually confirm it with datamining, tho the DLC is taking awhile to fill out.
It might be incomplete for awhile but its also usually a lot more accurate than other random guides written by one person in 6 hours the day the DLC released. If you search online for how to fight Putrescent Knight like 15 different content aggregation sites copying off of each other will suggest using bleed builds bc "hes very weak to bleed." Even Google's garbage AI will now source these articles to say the same thing. Putrescent Knight is completely immune to blood loss.
i beat radahn once with no cheese but now I just respec to shield poke and rly eases the mind not having the dread in the back of your mind every new game 😊
17:53 yeah, running straight backwards during Bayle's fly by fireball attack as soon as he starts shooting isn't the play. The trick to consistently dodging the barrage (or at least what's worked for me) is to run to the left or right before slowly turning to run backwards around the end of the barrage so you can more easily dodge the slide at the end of it
my editor chose a slightly bad clip there, for a long time my main dodge method was run back and to the right, sort of "diagonal back" (which only SOMETIMES got me hit). my editor chose the one clip where i was running straight back lol. i've learned now that the correct way to run away is just "hold hard right" and you'll be fine.
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There is actually a way to get invaded by Hornsent just before Romina’s boss room. In the rot swamp, going up the ramp, Hornsent spawns to kill you. Kill him here he will not show up. Also telling Morre that you don’t know what to do he will not show up in the gank
This only happens if you summon him for Messmör and talk to him afterwards, I believe.
Your jump dodges look clean as hell
Also as it comes to Radahn, I did him on torch only run, it was VERY hard but it was amazing i felt fair
i feel like its a shame that radahn is immune to sleep. it'd be a neat little weakness to be able to briefly stun him with a nap like you can with rykard
@@ingeniousclown fair, would be cool
since this isn't getting as much attention as your older er challenge runs, I'll do my part and comment to boost in the al-gore-rithm.
anyways love your humour and skill, and good luck with your new up and coming rolling only run starring the worst spell of the dlc ;P
8:21 it can fully block Holy when Sacred infused btw
My god you are insane!
Pls do a roll only dlc challenge 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Will always enjoy your content! Always had this question, is it just me or has anyone else die more times to the boar than actual "Commander Gaius"? Would've been great get a remember for the boar specifically and get the boar helmet
Great video! What a ride.
That cross slash really needs to be fixed man, ive also definitely noticed my dodges getting lost in radahns light beams. congrats on the victory tho
Unfortunately if Fromsoft fixed Promised Consort's pincer slash attack to be avoidable, a bunch of gatekeeping assholes would just say "You didn't REALLY beat them unless you downpatch" or smthn dumb like that.
yeah, but they're the minority. these days they kinda tend to get chased away from "real" communities. i think people have gotten sick of that kind of elitism
@@ingeniousclown Yeah, I like using spirit ashes because it's hilarious when mimic tear spams miquella's light and flashbangs the boss.
Damn,your vocabulary is good I need to search multiple words per video
happy to help you learn, i guess!
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if you run left when bayle flies its better to dodge
Of you just dont talk to moore you dont have to tell him to die
Hey very good video
Why is that when I fight the dancing lion, it spams the gap closing move one after the other.... why?
Anyway, thanks for video man
38:35 yes
Man I love the big npc brawl before final boss I don’t understand how people hate it
Its a really cool battle royale with all the summoned NPCs on your side, but the enemy NPCs are also pretty strong & tanky so if you ended up fighting all of them (or are too stubborn to summons NPCs) it can be kinda brutal.
It's entirely because of the summons. So many people try so hard to do this fight solo when the fight is so aggressively *not* built for that. You can't force this fight like you could the Radahn Festival, and even if you ignore both Ansbach and Thollier you still get a Sanguine Noble to help you. Yet people ignore that, bang their head against the wall for hours, and complain that the fight is terrible.
@@winterdragon2004 its actually kinda funny seeing ppl refuse to use summons even for the fights that are explicitly designed for summons and it completely breaks their brains how hard it is
I wonder how much easier this would be if you could use the full range of cross bows.
it'd be a lot easier i think. between the pulley and repeating crossbows for status buildup and a few of the other crossbows for raw damage, i think it could be pretty viable. the soldier's crossbow is just uniquely terrible in that its both weak AND lacks any special ability
@@ingeniousclownThe Repeating Crossbow is actually kind of arse for status.
It has a brutal x0.55 status multiplier on its skill, meaning it's a lot slower to build status and very wasteful with bolts.
The Pulley Crossbow is just the best in slot for status, especially since the spread crossbow got a status nerf in the last patch.
The one use for the repeater is ironically that it may well be the best single shot crossbow option due to having above average base damage.
Mizzmur roll to him not way
Messmer has 40% holy resist in phase 1, he has 0% in phase 2. The wiki doesn’t correct list it, or at least didn’t, it might be fixed now.
it is fixed now, it was definitely wrong before. my only solace is that even though i was wrong, the elemental bolts are only marginally better even with negative resists. 0 would be almost break even i think lol
I love your elden ring challenge runs, but please don’t burn yourself out like last time!
As someone who has done challenge stuff and struggled to keep the integrity of the run, things like the Leda ganksquad fight in the DLC or even Rykard's mandatory gimmick weapon fight are so stilted against the player for not utilizing their "soft rules" i.e. using the Storm Ruler Clone or summoning NPCs/Spirit Ashes to balance the 1vMany. It hurts the pride but I get needing to just get through it, especially since you're making videos that need to come out within a "reasonable" timeframe.
Yo wtf has TH-cam done to this man. This is unacceptable.
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That fight can't get harder? You could try it with one crossbow.
14:00 what did u mean by this? putrescent moving around a lot would surely make projectile builds worse against him right
weird question since i literally explain it in that same minute
@@ingeniousclownsure, but what i meant was that i’m confused how u thought that ur crossbow would match the speed of that shield throw ash of war from last vid
@@esaammirza4361 people make mistakes and weird assumptions sometimes. It's just kind of normal to be wrong occasionally
@@ingeniousclown valid
Imagine doing a no-hit run of all 200+ bosses, leaving Bayle for last and then getting a 19:28.
that's a computer in the trash moment. bonus points if bayle opens with flame breath when you enter the arena
WHY DIDNT I GET THIS IN MY RECOMMENDED WTF?? TWhatd you do to the algorithm?
i think i looked at it wrong and now its holding a grudge
Messmer is weak to holy in phase 2
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What the fuck are you talking about
@ lol. Nevermind broseph.
cmon ingenious…you can’t delay the roll run much longer…
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The Leda invasion is truly, resoundingly the worst encounter in Elden Ring's DLC. I have not seen a single person, from casual player to challenge runner, say anything good about it. A lot of them aren't even including them in their videos anymore lmao! Far and away it's just the god damn worst...
I liked it on my first run, because it was an all-out 4v4 brawl with Me, my mimic, Thiollier and Ansbach on one side and Leda, Moore, Dale and Freyja on the other. Very chaotic and very fun, and it felt like the choices I made (opposing Leda at every turn while helping my two summons) had an impact on the plot
Then I did my second playthrough, helped Leda every step of the way, and in the end she still turns on me and the game gives me a random Sanguine Noble NPC as a summon since I didn't help the other two. Absolute garbage.
FromSoft had the opportunity to craft a story about dwindling loyalties where your choice of who to help matters and has an impact on the outcome (like an RPG would) yet they squandered it completely by making your choices not matter at all. What a waste.
@@VivianAckersHow does Fallout 4 have more consequences for your actions? That was on the floor From and you tripped!
38:31 nope, you're not the only one. This fight is total garbage no matter how good the arena or the music or the lore implication are. I guess the gank squad from DS2 finally has a rival, but that was optional at the very least
Yeah that cross slash isnt nearly as bad as you or many other ppl make it out to be. Like it is a normal attack, idk what to say. I never even knew ppl hated it untill i was already done with the fight. And to be clear I am not saying im good- I was at mid load and didnt have a prob. He can bring it out quick but its as simple as rolling in when he locks in for a new combo. Idk- no hate
Great job doing this challange tho
(i dont think you cheated by changing the rules at Inner Ehlim or however its spelled)
If you can put out a video showcasing your method, I think the internet would thank you. But many others have already documented their attempts to do so with... let's say conflicting results to yours.
It's not just a "normal attack" though. No dodge can get through it except for a crucible backstep (with a very tight reaction time) or an extremely precise roll (with an extremely tight frame window). His single "back away cross slash" is easy, if that's what you're talking about. But the infamous "cross slash combo" is the one-two swing with each hand inwards, followed by the double swing with shockwave. Its the one-two that's a problem, the second swipe will hit you at least 90% of the time without hyper-specific positioning or loadouts.
@@ingeniousclown you are wrong i literally mid roll that thing constantly. Skill issue keep crying
@@Glamador Im not gonna download OBS for this shit just get better