not really. theres still massive compromise with any consumer headset. psvr is oled and has basically no sde, just low res, but came out in 2016. really incredible what sony did back then. i bought a g2. but im really waiting for a high res OLED with psvr like optics and base station tracking.
@@astroreflux yeah and surprise actual hand tracking, which is still in it's infancy but it's impressive anywyay.... some sets are tracking your facial expressions too! Screendoor is basically gone in the newer headsets and the new frontier is eye focus
I wish I could like the Quest 2, but the ball and chain that is Facebook, and their mind numbing requirements to even use the headset, like tying it your real name, and real facebook account, I just can't recommend it to anyone.
@@mikfhan I hope that facebook isn't too interested in stopping modded quests from existing. They are one of the few companies that could really make it stupidly hard.
You probably use lots of other sites that need your real name and you're probably fine with it... And to be honest everything on the internet tries to collect as much data about you as possible, so facebook isn't really that severe, take a look at tiktok, which is a data harvesting app in a coating of social media. Facebook isn't that bad and I'm more than willing to write my real name in yet another site so I could use a quest 2.
GREAT informative video ! Thank you! Without this video I wouldn't be able to buy a VR headset! I feel more happy now. Everyone should see this. I'm going to share this video right now
Philip does such an amazing work covering VR. Most of his videos on 3klik and 2klik for the past 4-5 years, but the VR ones are the ones most interesting. It's a new world and he does such a great work covering details that might get overlooked or aren't talked about enough. Thanks for making my weeks more interesting and full of new knowledge :)
Bought a Samsung Odyssey Plus last year for $450 new and have been thoroughly satisfied. OLED screens, sliding IPD adjustment, and Samsung won't brick it if you're found guilty of wrongthink! I think it's an excellent budget option, especially if you're mainly interested in games that won't make use of the controllers, like racing or flight sims, or Elite Dangerous (which the OLED screens are great for, perfect blacks for the blackness of space).
It's such a shame that the Quest 2 needs Facebook. I'd definitely upgrade to one from my CV1 if it didn't need a Facebook login. Maybe if a Jailbreak gets released I'll look into it :p
I've owned an Index, Rift S, and Vive Cosmos Elite. I expect the Reverb G2 to fill the rift (ha) left by the discontinuation of the Rift S. The Rift S was the most comfortable and lightest-weight of the three headsets I've had and had decent build quality, though its display and tracking tech was the least advanced. It worked well even in the smallest room in my home. The Vive Cosmos Elite has the best build quality of the three and middle of the road display tech and comfortability on my small head. My main complaint with the Cosmos Elite is the lenses - the sweet spot is very small and is not in the the same place on both lenses, so I have to fit the headset at a slight angle. The Index comes in at the same price as the Cosmos Elite and has the best display and lens tech of the three, but suffers from serious build quality issues. In less than a year I've had to RMA two controllers, one trident cable, and the headset itself. The upside is that Valve knows there are issues with the design and makes the RMA process quick and easy.
0:35 lighthouses are not tracking devices. They just shoot lasers into your play space. 3:30 The Index uses inside out tracking, but requires base stations. 5:15 Base stations are not a hassle to set up. You can literally just set them on like a shelf and it will work fine.
I will get the oculus quest 2 at Christmas and I am really hyped. I know the hate because fb policies, but actually I am taking this to get this good price. I get a cable to so I can play Steamvr games ^^
Ordered a g2 couple of weeks ago, hopefully it'll be here by December. If I enjoy it, I might consider getting base stations and knuckles to pair with it.
I would give another honorable mention to the vive cosmos and the vive cosmos elite. These are the newest vive headsets at a medium and a high price tag respectively.
Thanks for the video Philip, I am planning to buy some VR kit (Either the valve index or G2) + a whole new computer in about half a year from now and this got me to understand more about the VR thingy
The thing with the HP Reverb G2 is that the tracking for the hands is not all that great. The Quest 2 requires the Facebook account and the valve index needs a pc and it is pretty expensive so it is completely up to the buyer.
i was thinking of waiting for the next gen step-up to the valve index. is there going to be one any time soon? or is the valve index the flagship for a long time to come?
Index isn't sold in Australia. After the import tax, shipping, no warranty or customer support, its not really an option. So I preordered a G2. If I hadn't preordered, and if I was watching the right online shops, I would have got mine by now.
I think you enjoyed the parts of cyberpunk that were intended to be enjoyed. Mostly the world. Thats what games like cyberpunk, the elder scrolls and fallout are all about. The world and the npc's.
If, like me, your specific requirement is to be able to wear glasses whilst playing, I know the rift-S is significantly better than index, unless you have a narrow head. Never used a quest.
@@2kliksphilip But the only display component technically worse than the index that I can find is a lower refresh rate. Both the 5k and the 8k have full rgb lcd monitors just like the index. Is it just poorly made monitors? Are the lenses worse? Is there significant edge distortion?
@@ZadakLeader Its like Microtransactions, dont even get them started. I dont want to be at a point where i cant buy freaking hardware without a bs account.
@@m4d_al3x Um ok? I think this is just overreaction, really. Why is it OK to have accounts for Steam, EA etc where you can lose access to all your games if you do something wrong but not a Facebook account which literally does the same? Please elaborate what do you think it's the difference? Concretely.
@@ZadakLeader I avoid using steam as much as possible for the exact same reason. Also there is a major difference between hardware and software. If i "lose acces" to software it is usually either piratable or cheap to rebuy, with hardware over 300$ thats a whole different story. And you know jow random some of these companies are at banning mfs.
I was gonna order the Quest 2 as soon as it came out, but the Facebook mandatory login was a dealbreaker for me. A shame really, it's such a nice value, but for a reason, the 100$
Unfortunately, back in 2018, the budget pre built pc was i5-7400, gtx 1050ti. While both are still fine in normal games, upgrading is kinda weird. If I choose to upgrade my gpu to rtx2060, my i5 would bottleneck it like crazy and wouldn't feel like a good upgrade. Upgrading my i5 also require a mobo change. VR feels like it's gonna be a really long while before I can dip in.
If only they still sold the original vive. Its the best budget headset for base station tracking. I got mine in 2016 and still use it. I replaced the controllers with the valve index ones and had to replace a base station so far. Other than that its great
I am personally looking forward to HTCs next instalment. I use the vive pro only because of its oled screen, but the build quality and constant audio issues really ruin the purchase. Had the headset since launch and it has barely improved so I’m hoping that the next HTC headset learns from this so it’s worth upgrading.
I think I'm just going to save up for the G2, as the required Facebook account is too much for me. I guess it is what allows for the price to be so low. My room is too small to set up room-scale, so I don't see any point in getting the Index.
DON’T GET THE ELITE STRAP IF YOU HAVE THE QUEST 2! Go ahead and spend your money for a new strap on the HTC Vive Deluxe Audio Strap. It’s around $100+ and it feels way better. Make sure you buy the adapters on Etsy as well though. It makes your Quest 2 look and feel much better. Commenting from experience
I was this close to getting an Oculus, thank fuck they announced about that bullshit before I pulled the trigger. I would be so fucking done if I had already bought one
I didn't know about the HP headset. weird seeing the Index's sound solution on another unit! and the used GPU market is not geat right now. a used Vega 56 is similar in price as a new one was a year after launch :(
I've owned the Lenovo Explorer WMR for about 1.5 years now. Barely use it, because its built-in headphone jack doesn't work properly; mobile earphones just hiss loudly, and my Sennheiser HD6xx cuts out after a few minutes. Tried a bunch of things, nothing worked. As a result, I've resorted to it with the HD6xx plugged into my computer, but with their 1.5m cable it is a shite experience, I've ruined the motherboard's headphone jack by repeatedly tugging on the wire too much, now the signal occasionally cuts out when just sitting still. As a VR headset it is fine though, but the sound situation is fucked up. Edit: for those with the same problem - Lenovo Explorer has a problem with USB not providing enough power for the audio (despite using the USB3 VR-Ready ports), hence the sound issues. Using a powered USB hub or a 2-to-1 USB cable join helps, if you have them.
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I would really like to get myself a Valve Index... but since they are not sold in Norway, people buy them from outside the country and sell them here for double the price. So annoying.
I'll repost the comment I did on the last one. Valve Index is worth waiting months to get, but I'll warn you that I ordered mine in April and only got it in October. The base stations aren't really that much of a pain in the ass though. TL;DR the Index is worth the extra set-up and money, even coming from a poor person like me.
I really want to correct the idea that the Index(/HP Reverb) headphones are "the best audio for VR". They're not good compared to any headphones. If you're not comfortable with IEMs, the wide Index-style headband is an essentially impassable obstacle for anyone looking for good audio in VR. Also the 'hassle' of lighthouses is just plugging them into the wall, and setting them on something like a bookcase or a table or whatever. The images and videos showing the lighthouses high above the user's head and usually drilled into the walls is very misleading. They don't need to see each other anymore, and don't need to be plugged into the PC like the Rift's did. Also they *don't* need to be hard mounted.
Wtf what if I don't have a Facebook account, don't want to use one, and make one for the quest 2? They gonna disable my headset for not using Facebook?
@@ca09z that's retarded. I got an account and follow relatives/friends but I basically never use it, only messenger. I don't know if I can even use the quest if I buy it now, or if the TOS isn't gonna be enforced too hard
Is the Facebook account needed for the games themselves or does it practically brick your device too ? Because i couldn't care less about the oculus store. Not gonna buy vr for a couple of years at least, had my good experience already, and not gonna buy Oculus for sure, just wanna know how it really is now
is getting a psvr headset for pc vr doable? i just so badly wanna play alyx but god damn these headsets are expensive but psvr i can justify cause if it can work on pc then i have a headset that works with both my pc and ps4.
@@littlenickjr thats not a bad idea just thought i could get the best of both ps4 vr and pc vr but that doesnt matter what im really interested in is half life alyx after all.
I spent £920 on a Valve Index. My opinions: I've enjoyed every experience with it but the image quality is still a little blurry, I have it running on lower graphics settings because I still need to update my PCs graphics card, so I wonder if that's it? As I'm short sighted, so I wouldn't have thought needing glasses to see things far away would be an issue here. Overall I'm happy with the headset, I'm sure there are better ways I could have spent the money but I couldn't justify getting a WMR headset for the price they cost in the UK and didn't want to go 2nd hand with the fact I work in a care home and am a little germophobic atm I wanted the best possible experience. But was shocked to find the novelty didn't wow me anywhere near as much as the hype made me think they would. That said, I was also surprised to find out that the base stations were no where near as much of a hassle as I thought they would be, and the controllers were really nice (if a little hard to get used to from a typical controller like xbox or playstation) My room is only slightly not large enough to support room scale which is disappointing, as I thought it would just allow me to have a smaller room scaled option as my room is so close to the minimum. I haven't used it as much as I thought I would, but I know that I will in the future. The previous guide helped inform my decision, and the free HLAlyx you get certainly didn't hurt either. 7/10 For now....
About short-sighted-ness, I think that IS an important factor. The lenses within the headset bend the light to have the same input as something being genuinely far away, so maybe worth trying with glasses on, though I know that can be tough in index.
Honestly I thought vr was going to be just a fad that was cool for a while then just a bit naff. I got a skin from the csgo operation and sold it on the steam market so I was like why not I'll get it if it's a fad I'll just resell it. Man I was wrong I've only been playing h3vr because I'm yet to upgrade my rx 480 but it's honestly amazing it's sad putting my Christmas stuff up because I've put my index away.
Quest 2 would be totally the one and only option for people on budget. However, the fact that you have to have a Facebook makes me instantly not wanna get it. I'll much rather save my money and get Valve Index, even if takes me a year.
@@dtre417 That's the vive, not the index: valve did work with HTC on the vive, but it's still from HTC, and that was from 2016. Then, they separated on their ways, and valve released the index one year ago.
Unless you're really into simracing, I'd wait. VR games are only going to get better and even the Index is hardly perfect. It's not like there don't exist a hundred interesting pancake games that you haven't even played yet.
Currently I cannot even consider getting into vr. Firstly the good products are extremely expensive and the the cheap oculus is owned by facebook... I would never in a million years consider buying a product from a company owned by facebook.
As someone who used to own a Rift CV1 and moved to the Quest 1, the original Rift is better than nothing, but lacking in many areas. You'll still get that full VR experience, but with much more hassle in the setup, and lower resolution than the headsets out nowadays. If you don't think you'll be able to afford the Quest 2 in the next year or so, I'd say go for it, as long as you don't let it put a bad taste of VR in your mouth as you keep in mind purchasing gen1 4+ year old tech in a quickly advancing industry. For example the pixel resolution is usable, but blurry, and to contrast current headsets have practically removed screen door effect. I bet if you buy it, you'll enjoy it, and then be wanting to upgrade when you can. Or maybe you won't enjoy VR, and then you will of only spent what you did :)
@@littlenickjr well, it's not that I can't afford better, it's that beside Alyx, I don't see many worthwhile games, so it's a luxury already. The quest 2 isn't available a lot and is 350€ for the base model. Here second hand the first rift is 150€ and the rift s is around 280€. The hassle to setup isn't a problem with me, résolution, yeah, that could be a setback but 90hz is a plus compared to the quest or rift S. Do you believe the screen door effect is worth that 200€ premium?
@@freepok That makes sense. If you already have a PC capable, and genuinely only want to play Alyx to check off that experience, I'd say it would be worth it. The resolution is not low enough to detract from the overall experience. And if you don't find any other VR games you enjoy, you could resell it yourself and make back most of your money.
I use a quest 2 myself, but I just can't recommended. facebook should not be a requirement to use it. (infact this thing shouldn't be even allowed for companies to do) I don't need psn for my playstation I don't need xbox/ms account for my windows machine or xbox etc.
It’s insane how much vr has evolved in the past few years
And it’s only now REALLY starting
its only been a thing for the past few years
(at least modern consumer vr)
not really. theres still massive compromise with any consumer headset. psvr is oled and has basically no sde, just low res, but came out in 2016. really incredible what sony did back then. i bought a g2. but im really waiting for a high res OLED with psvr like optics and base station tracking.
@@astroreflux yeah and surprise actual hand tracking, which is still in it's infancy but it's impressive anywyay.... some sets are tracking your facial expressions too!
Screendoor is basically gone in the newer headsets and the new frontier is eye focus
Quest needs external tracking devices. It is named Facebook
deep
Henrix98 yes
Took me some seconds.
They already can track you just by how you move in vr lol
@@kyestar88 you will soon enough lol
If only there was a option to correct small mistakes, for example attaching notes on videos after uploading
Like annotations?
but muh mobile
"Sorry, but it's too useful" - TH-cam
@@TKsh1 and didn’t make them money
There's a youtube video editor where you can edit after upload, but it doesn't offer that many options.
Go on facebook
Say a bad word
Device doesn't work anymore
Lmao yeah no the quest2 isn't even an option
I wish I could like the Quest 2, but the ball and chain that is Facebook, and their mind numbing requirements to even use the headset, like tying it your real name, and real facebook account, I just can't recommend it to anyone.
Such practices invite the internet to find solutions - like the modded Playstations of the past.
@@mikfhan I hope that facebook isn't too interested in stopping modded quests from existing. They are one of the few companies that could really make it stupidly hard.
You probably use lots of other sites that need your real name and you're probably fine with it... And to be honest everything on the internet tries to collect as much data about you as possible, so facebook isn't really that severe, take a look at tiktok, which is a data harvesting app in a coating of social media. Facebook isn't that bad and I'm more than willing to write my real name in yet another site so I could use a quest 2.
@Deadpoppin If they ever find out, your account will be banned. I hope they don't find out, but you have been warned.
@Gatorade yo are you banned yet? i'd make some effort to make it look like a real account if i were you
This is my favourite series to re-watch. I have a Q2 already but the way Philip makes an informative video so entertaining. Great work Philip!
GREAT informative video ! Thank you! Without this video I wouldn't be able to buy a VR headset!
I feel more happy now.
Everyone should see this.
I'm going to share this video right now
Philip does such an amazing work covering VR. Most of his videos on 3klik and 2klik for the past 4-5 years, but the VR ones are the ones most interesting.
It's a new world and he does such a great work covering details that might get overlooked or aren't talked about enough.
Thanks for making my weeks more interesting and full of new knowledge :)
Bought a Samsung Odyssey Plus last year for $450 new and have been thoroughly satisfied. OLED screens, sliding IPD adjustment, and Samsung won't brick it if you're found guilty of wrongthink!
I think it's an excellent budget option, especially if you're mainly interested in games that won't make use of the controllers, like racing or flight sims, or Elite Dangerous (which the OLED screens are great for, perfect blacks for the blackness of space).
It's such a shame that the Quest 2 needs Facebook. I'd definitely upgrade to one from my CV1 if it didn't need a Facebook login. Maybe if a Jailbreak gets released I'll look into it :p
was deciding on either the G2 or Quest 2. I didn't know that the G2's cameras didn't use a bottom camera. Thanks!
Don't forget that you can use base stations and knuckles with the HP Reverb G2.
I've owned an Index, Rift S, and Vive Cosmos Elite. I expect the Reverb G2 to fill the rift (ha) left by the discontinuation of the Rift S. The Rift S was the most comfortable and lightest-weight of the three headsets I've had and had decent build quality, though its display and tracking tech was the least advanced. It worked well even in the smallest room in my home. The Vive Cosmos Elite has the best build quality of the three and middle of the road display tech and comfortability on my small head. My main complaint with the Cosmos Elite is the lenses - the sweet spot is very small and is not in the the same place on both lenses, so I have to fit the headset at a slight angle. The Index comes in at the same price as the Cosmos Elite and has the best display and lens tech of the three, but suffers from serious build quality issues. In less than a year I've had to RMA two controllers, one trident cable, and the headset itself. The upside is that Valve knows there are issues with the design and makes the RMA process quick and easy.
Got my quest 2 today, I love it
I gave Facebook my soul for a Quest 2, it was a hard choice but it feels so god damn good!
0:35 lighthouses are not tracking devices. They just shoot lasers into your play space.
3:30 The Index uses inside out tracking, but requires base stations.
5:15 Base stations are not a hassle to set up. You can literally just set them on like a shelf and it will work fine.
Assuming you don't bump the shelf, yes
@@bunnypeople It's fine to bump the shelf. You just don't want to knock it off. It's okay to move the lighthouses when they are on.
@@bunnypeople usually comes back online in a few seconds, but it is annoying when tracking breaks
Perfect timing! Was just about to buy a VR headset this week, thank you Phillip :)
I will get the oculus quest 2 at Christmas and I am really hyped. I know the hate because fb policies, but actually I am taking this to get this good price. I get a cable to so I can play Steamvr games ^^
Ordered a g2 couple of weeks ago, hopefully it'll be here by December. If I enjoy it, I might consider getting base stations and knuckles to pair with it.
Just thinking about getting VR perfect timing Philip!
Get a valve index no question! If you don’t have the money or cant save quest 2 is the only next option. Dont buy anything else!
Since Quest has enabled 120hz, it is now the best headset for price to refresh rate, high resolution, and standalone as well.
am I seeing double?
not anymore
I would give another honorable mention to the vive cosmos and the vive cosmos elite. These are the newest vive headsets at a medium and a high price tag respectively.
I might get an htc vive, i've got a pc myself so it's probably better than everything built in
Thanks for the video Philip, I am planning to buy some VR kit (Either the valve index or G2) + a whole new computer in about half a year from now and this got me to understand more about the VR thingy
The thing with the HP Reverb G2 is that the tracking for the hands is not all that great. The Quest 2 requires the Facebook account and the valve index needs a pc and it is pretty expensive so it is completely up to the buyer.
i was thinking of waiting for the next gen step-up to the valve index. is there going to be one any time soon? or is the valve index the flagship for a long time to come?
Thank you for this comprehensive guide
Index isn't sold in Australia. After the import tax, shipping, no warranty or customer support, its not really an option.
So I preordered a G2. If I hadn't preordered, and if I was watching the right online shops, I would have got mine by now.
I think you enjoyed the parts of cyberpunk that were intended to be enjoyed. Mostly the world. Thats what games like cyberpunk, the elder scrolls and fallout are all about. The world and the npc's.
Goddamnit, I was about to fall asleep Phillip.
I bought the Index a few months ago and barely use it. Thinking about selling it and buying the Quest 2 to replace it.
If, like me, your specific requirement is to be able to wear glasses whilst playing, I know the rift-S is significantly better than index, unless you have a narrow head. Never used a quest.
How does the oculus quest 2 compare to the original HTC Vive immersion and quality-wise?
The G2 recommends a 2070 and up btw.
If you don't have atleast a 2070 super imo i'd get something else as it will be choppy which is VR is awful
Wow. So much has changed since you last did a video on this...
A couple of hours ago.
Id like more info on the pimax. I see it uses the same knuckles and trackers as the index. Why is the pimax visually worse? evidently it comes in 8k.
@@2kliksphilip But the only display component technically worse than the index that I can find is a lower refresh rate. Both the 5k and the 8k have full rgb lcd monitors just like the index. Is it just poorly made monitors? Are the lenses worse? Is there significant edge distortion?
Facebook Ecosystem on the Quest is an absolute Dealbreaker.
Its like Ea but with Facebook and hardware
Why?
@@ZadakLeader
Its like Microtransactions, dont even get them started. I dont want to be at a point where i cant buy freaking hardware without a bs account.
@@m4d_al3x Um ok? I think this is just overreaction, really. Why is it OK to have accounts for Steam, EA etc where you can lose access to all your games if you do something wrong but not a Facebook account which literally does the same?
Please elaborate what do you think it's the difference? Concretely.
@@ZadakLeader
I avoid using steam as much as possible for the exact same reason.
Also there is a major difference between hardware and software. If i "lose acces" to software it is usually either piratable or cheap to rebuy, with hardware over 300$ thats a whole different story. And you know jow random some of these companies are at banning mfs.
@@m4d_al3x Those issues were fixed and aren't happening anymore...
I was gonna order the Quest 2 as soon as it came out, but the Facebook mandatory login was a dealbreaker for me. A shame really, it's such a nice value, but for a reason, the 100$
Unfortunately, back in 2018, the budget pre built pc was i5-7400, gtx 1050ti. While both are still fine in normal games, upgrading is kinda weird. If I choose to upgrade my gpu to rtx2060, my i5 would bottleneck it like crazy and wouldn't feel like a good upgrade. Upgrading my i5 also require a mobo change. VR feels like it's gonna be a really long while before I can dip in.
If only they still sold the original vive. Its the best budget headset for base station tracking. I got mine in 2016 and still use it. I replaced the controllers with the valve index ones and had to replace a base station so far. Other than that its great
Just what I was looking for excellent
The rift S hardly works anymore, which sucks because I paid 350 for the bloody thing.
I am personally looking forward to HTCs next instalment. I use the vive pro only because of its oled screen, but the build quality and constant audio issues really ruin the purchase. Had the headset since launch and it has barely improved so I’m hoping that the next HTC headset learns from this so it’s worth upgrading.
I think I'm just going to save up for the G2, as the required Facebook account is too much for me. I guess it is what allows for the price to be so low. My room is too small to set up room-scale, so I don't see any point in getting the Index.
DON’T GET THE ELITE STRAP IF YOU HAVE THE QUEST 2! Go ahead and spend your money for a new strap on the HTC Vive Deluxe Audio Strap. It’s around $100+ and it feels way better. Make sure you buy the adapters on Etsy as well though. It makes your Quest 2 look and feel much better. Commenting from experience
Bought a WMR for 90 bucks,i don't see why i need more than that.
Great deal that you've made!
@@dominicstocker5144 yup was really lucky, i bought it from some lady that actually never even opened the box
I was this close to getting an Oculus, thank fuck they announced about that bullshit before I pulled the trigger. I would be so fucking done if I had already bought one
Good stuff! I am happy with my Index, and wont be changing it unless they come out with a wireless Index.
I'm not sure if there are any good jailbreak options for the Oculus devices, but if there are, a video on that would be interesting!
I didn't know about the HP headset. weird seeing the Index's sound solution on another unit!
and the used GPU market is not geat right now. a used Vega 56 is similar in price as a new one was a year after launch :(
I've owned the Lenovo Explorer WMR for about 1.5 years now. Barely use it, because its built-in headphone jack doesn't work properly; mobile earphones just hiss loudly, and my Sennheiser HD6xx cuts out after a few minutes. Tried a bunch of things, nothing worked. As a result, I've resorted to it with the HD6xx plugged into my computer, but with their 1.5m cable it is a shite experience, I've ruined the motherboard's headphone jack by repeatedly tugging on the wire too much, now the signal occasionally cuts out when just sitting still.
As a VR headset it is fine though, but the sound situation is fucked up.
Edit: for those with the same problem - Lenovo Explorer has a problem with USB not providing enough power for the audio (despite using the USB3 VR-Ready ports), hence the sound issues. Using a powered USB hub or a 2-to-1 USB cable join helps, if you have them.
Love my Samsung Odyssey+ got it for $200 from a friend that bought an Index.
My experience with WMR's software has been rather pleasant. It's very "pick-up-and-play", and you can put your Steam games directly into your "home".
Also, it's a REALLY good idea to *WAIT* to buy a budget card. RTX 3050 is coming, as well as the lower end 6000 cards.
can the quest 2 run half-life alyx without being connected to a pc?
You technically can via cloud streaming, but thats only for specific locations and you have to have good internet
I've been really happy with my used Odyssey+
What if you have bad eyesight? Because I can’t imagine it’s possible to wear glasses underneath that...
Usually there are covers for glasses. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to use Oculus :D
you can buy 3rd party lenses, but you can also have glasses under on most headsets
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the valve index is the only option for me since i use linux
I would really like to get myself a Valve Index... but since they are not sold in Norway, people buy them from outside the country and sell them here for double the price. So annoying.
okay, i have an index, but what do i play....
Needed this, really wanna play half life alyx but I don't have a headset or a powerful pc
Me before I found out oculus was owned by facebook: Quest 2 looks good!
Me now: Ight Imma head out
What the video is missing is the future releases of VR headset. I don't want to buy an index now if the index 2 is being released in a few months
I'll repost the comment I did on the last one.
Valve Index is worth waiting months to get, but I'll warn you that I ordered mine in April and only got it in October.
The base stations aren't really that much of a pain in the ass though.
TL;DR the Index is worth the extra set-up and money, even coming from a poor person like me.
Thank you for your work Philip
Valve Index still isn't available in Australia :(
pretty sure you can buy one on ebay for europe though steam might say it isnt compatible in your region
Excellent video
Rift S can be used with facebook until 2023
This is a comment to appease the TH-cam algorithms for the reupload
Oculus quest has better resolution and has plugins to work with wireless connection with PC
Waiting for that Index 2.0!
Cool video, thanks!
I really want to correct the idea that the Index(/HP Reverb) headphones are "the best audio for VR". They're not good compared to any headphones. If you're not comfortable with IEMs, the wide Index-style headband is an essentially impassable obstacle for anyone looking for good audio in VR.
Also the 'hassle' of lighthouses is just plugging them into the wall, and setting them on something like a bookcase or a table or whatever. The images and videos showing the lighthouses high above the user's head and usually drilled into the walls is very misleading. They don't need to see each other anymore, and don't need to be plugged into the PC like the Rift's did. Also they *don't* need to be hard mounted.
Wtf what if I don't have a Facebook account, don't want to use one, and make one for the quest 2? They gonna disable my headset for not using Facebook?
@@ca09z that's retarded. I got an account and follow relatives/friends but I basically never use it, only messenger. I don't know if I can even use the quest if I buy it now, or if the TOS isn't gonna be enforced too hard
Is the Facebook account needed for the games themselves or does it practically brick your device too ? Because i couldn't care less about the oculus store. Not gonna buy vr for a couple of years at least, had my good experience already, and not gonna buy Oculus for sure, just wanna know how it really is now
4:28 What do you mean "Public release in December"? Isn't the G2 available right now already for consumers?
I have here the Updated VR Report....
If I don't care about stand alone VR and just want to play with my PC, which would be better, Rift S or Quest 2?
Quest 2, especially with the latest oculus link update
Nice video!
thanks dad
correction: oculus quest 2 isn't 90hz, you need to sideload it using sidequest.
No, it is now 90hz with the newest update
What about the Rift s?
is getting a psvr headset for pc vr doable? i just so badly wanna play alyx but god damn these headsets are expensive but psvr i can justify cause if it can work on pc then i have a headset that works with both my pc and ps4.
No, dont even try
@@janchan2258 have you tried it?
PSVR doesn't work with PC. Though why not look into getting a Quest1, Rift, or Vive second hand?
@@littlenickjr thats not a bad idea just thought i could get the best of both ps4 vr and pc vr but that doesnt matter what im really interested in is half life alyx after all.
Feeling like i've already seen this one...
Got a G2. Fuckin excited
what about og vive?
I spent £920 on a Valve Index.
My opinions:
I've enjoyed every experience with it but the image quality is still a little blurry, I have it running on lower graphics settings because I still need to update my PCs graphics card, so I wonder if that's it? As I'm short sighted, so I wouldn't have thought needing glasses to see things far away would be an issue here.
Overall I'm happy with the headset, I'm sure there are better ways I could have spent the money but I couldn't justify getting a WMR headset for the price they cost in the UK and didn't want to go 2nd hand with the fact I work in a care home and am a little germophobic atm
I wanted the best possible experience. But was shocked to find the novelty didn't wow me anywhere near as much as the hype made me think they would.
That said, I was also surprised to find out that the base stations were no where near as much of a hassle as I thought they would be, and the controllers were really nice (if a little hard to get used to from a typical controller like xbox or playstation)
My room is only slightly not large enough to support room scale which is disappointing, as I thought it would just allow me to have a smaller room scaled option as my room is so close to the minimum.
I haven't used it as much as I thought I would, but I know that I will in the future. The previous guide helped inform my decision, and the free HLAlyx you get certainly didn't hurt either.
7/10
For now....
About short-sighted-ness, I think that IS an important factor. The lenses within the headset bend the light to have the same input as something being genuinely far away, so maybe worth trying with glasses on, though I know that can be tough in index.
@@MintRobin Really? That's very useful to know, thank you!
@@gregorywhatley9659 I think so it's worth trying to see if it helps I might be wrong.
The Index is definitely not supposed to be blurry. Pixelated, but not blurry.
wait for the index 2
Honestly I thought vr was going to be just a fad that was cool for a while then just a bit naff. I got a skin from the csgo operation and sold it on the steam market so I was like why not I'll get it if it's a fad I'll just resell it. Man I was wrong I've only been playing h3vr because I'm yet to upgrade my rx 480 but it's honestly amazing it's sad putting my Christmas stuff up because I've put my index away.
Quest 2 would be totally the one and only option for people on budget. However, the fact that you have to have a Facebook makes me instantly not wanna get it.
I'll much rather save my money and get Valve Index, even if takes me a year.
I was looking at getting a VR, but isn't the Valve Index quite 'old' by today standards? Is it worth it to buy it?
It's one year old, but it's still the best option overall: that just shows how much valve futureproofed this HMD IMO.
@@MatchTerm Oh wow I didn't actually realise It was only one year old, no idea why but I thought it was from 2016 or something.. Thanks for the reply!
@@dtre417 That's the vive, not the index: valve did work with HTC on the vive, but it's still from HTC, and that was from 2016.
Then, they separated on their ways, and valve released the index one year ago.
Unless you're really into simracing, I'd wait. VR games are only going to get better and even the Index is hardly perfect.
It's not like there don't exist a hundred interesting pancake games that you haven't even played yet.
Currently I cannot even consider getting into vr. Firstly the good products are extremely expensive and the the cheap oculus is owned by facebook... I would never in a million years consider buying a product from a company owned by facebook.
at least we get to see some of those post-upload fixes. ;)
where are the games?
I feel like I already watched this video
I didn't see the First oculus rift on the docs linked, I have an opportunity to get one for 140€, is it a good way to start VR or is it too old now?
As someone who used to own a Rift CV1 and moved to the Quest 1, the original Rift is better than nothing, but lacking in many areas. You'll still get that full VR experience, but with much more hassle in the setup, and lower resolution than the headsets out nowadays. If you don't think you'll be able to afford the Quest 2 in the next year or so, I'd say go for it, as long as you don't let it put a bad taste of VR in your mouth as you keep in mind purchasing gen1 4+ year old tech in a quickly advancing industry. For example the pixel resolution is usable, but blurry, and to contrast current headsets have practically removed screen door effect. I bet if you buy it, you'll enjoy it, and then be wanting to upgrade when you can. Or maybe you won't enjoy VR, and then you will of only spent what you did :)
@@littlenickjr well, it's not that I can't afford better, it's that beside Alyx, I don't see many worthwhile games, so it's a luxury already. The quest 2 isn't available a lot and is 350€ for the base model. Here second hand the first rift is 150€ and the rift s is around 280€.
The hassle to setup isn't a problem with me, résolution, yeah, that could be a setback but 90hz is a plus compared to the quest or rift S.
Do you believe the screen door effect is worth that 200€ premium?
@@freepok That makes sense. If you already have a PC capable, and genuinely only want to play Alyx to check off that experience, I'd say it would be worth it. The resolution is not low enough to detract from the overall experience. And if you don't find any other VR games you enjoy, you could resell it yourself and make back most of your money.
I use a quest 2 myself, but I just can't recommended.
facebook should not be a requirement to use it. (infact this thing shouldn't be even allowed for companies to do)
I don't need psn for my playstation
I don't need xbox/ms account for my windows machine or xbox
etc.
TH-cam algorithms be pleased.
Well I can't buy the oculus quest 2 in Germany 😢