FM25 DELAYED AGAIN! What This Means for Football Manager Fans!
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FM25 has been delayed AGAIN! In this video, I break down everything you need to know about the latest setback for Football Manager 2025. With the release now pushed back to March 2025, what does this mean for the game, the community, and content creators like myself? I'll share my honest reaction to the delay, why it's happening, and what we can expect moving forward. Let me know your thoughts in the comments - are you disappointed by this delay, or could it actually be a good thing for the game?
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FM25 DELAYED AGAIN! What This Means for Football Manager Fans!
FM25 DELAYED AGAIN! What This Means for Football Manager Fans!
FM25 DELAYED AGAIN! What This Means for Football Manager Fans!
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At this point, just release a 2024/25 style patch for FM24, then focus all resources on turning FM25 into FM26, with the bits they planned to take out updated/fixed & still in the game.
Even fewer people are now going to buy FM25 if FM26 is scheduled to come out in November 2025, unless you're going to change the whole release cycle up.
Completely agree 👍
Excatly my thoughts, no point coming out in March and then fm26 out in November?
Beat me to it! It can't be that difficult, can it?
I highly doubt FM26 will be out next November now, this delay will have a knock on effect.
Exactly..
Concerning to go from 'the game is out in 2 months' to actually it's not even close and we need another 4 months in the space of just over a week.
You know why that is?
Because the developers are under pressure to release from financial hackers and publishers.
Sega will have been pushing for it to be out in November as they don't need to face the backlash if it was poorly received.
That's why we keep seeing games chucked out half finished.
I've just this very minute been playing cyberpunk actually 😂
@@seanyboy3 hackers? backers maybe?
The Devs have probably been working overtime and crunch to try and deliver the game in time for November. It's not realistic to continue that over Christmas. What's best for the team and the quality of their product is probably a rest and reset which will extend the process.
Keep doing what you're doing, Kev. A new game is great but you're the main selling point of this channel.
What this guy says ☝️
Couldn’t agree more
Just do Non League to Legend as normal - I associate NLTL as this time of year - hopefully a transfers patch at the very least for FM24 should help. I think it would work better now than in March when the weather is improving, the football season is pretty much done.
I don't watch NLTL because it is FM22, FM23 or FM24 - let's face it, they all look the bleeding same anyway, I watch it because it is early in the season so the excitement is there, I am spending more time indoors so need something to watch and it is my favourite FM series.
Another NLTL on FM24 would be my vote too.
Perhaps with one custom rule to make it harder for Kev after a year of familiarity with the game: no clubs or players that he's already worked with.
But FM works well no matter the edition. He could go for an older FM, no older than the 3D match engine though. A vintage NLTL with text or 2D would start well, but his views would soon drop off as only the old CM-heads remained.
Or a modded one - are there overhaul mods for FM? I mean the kind of mods that make it feel effectively like a new game. One of the things that always slightly deflates me about Kev's NLTL is that he's never really in trouble (the Schalke sacking a few FMs ago was a true anomaly). A custom NLTL in which he was in trouble more often than not - that would garner interest and views. And he wouldn't have to resort to those vaguely clickbaity 'ABOUT TO BE SACKED?' thumbnails that he sometimes does!
+2 from me another round of NLTL
That sounds like a good idea, but maybe with a twist of having to be the club furthest away from Kev, not the nearest to him? Might mean somewhere like Truro instead.
NTL +3
So sorry for you Kev. Having been involved in a franchise business myself that went under, I feel your pain. It's an awful feeling when it is beyond your control and nothing that you have done wrong. You feel let down, and rightly so. For the casual FM player, it doesn't really affect us, but for those that depend on it for an income, it really isn't good. You look like you are putting in contingencies for other content away from FM. I hope it is enough for you that you can continue making a living this way.
Huge news for followers of the East Fife save
I doubt it, as much as I would love to see its conclusion, the reason he stopped doing that wasn’t related to the FM25 delay it was loss of twitch sponsor. My guess is they will carry on the network game instead as that has more interest.
true all 5 of them gonna be so excited
Must be 1 of those 5 first time i have been in an elite group
@@Babbitty81 He literally said he would go to it in the video 🤷🏼♂️
Honestly, at this point, just release a database for FM24 that contains the FM25 database, even if it costs us a little money. Change nothing else. Just work on the game for FM26 and use the year to get it right.
there is a 24/25 database available for example at steam workshop, including all done transfers for the new season. That is what I am playing now, since I just can’t wait until march… damn 😮
It really wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. What has been forgotten in this fiasco is that FM24 is a really excellent installment of the game, probably the best in a good few years. A database update will already be in the works for the original FM25 launch date, and (albeit I'm not a game dev expert) it surely can't be too hard to port that to the existing game
The problem is, I suspect they haven't got a licence to make and release the air from 25 database for FM 24.
you can download the database now? what you mean?
@@JP_LDN582 As in this is what they *should* do. But yes, licensing is probably an issue, but it's not hard to see this being a problem when they're making a new game on a brand new engine rather than bolting stuff onto what they had and packaging it as new (and selling at full price). They could've thought about this. But money, I guess.
I fully agree with everyone saying just wait until FM26. Put out a patch for FM24 for everyone else.
That will be a live conversation at SI right now. In recent weeks and months there would have been advocates of all options, from 'release in November and be damned' to 'March 2025' to 'scrap it and go for FM26', and the March crew have (currently) won out. I'd not be flabbergasted by an announcement in January that FM25 is no more.
Having made a couple of simple mobile games, I can appreciate the scale of what they're doing. 5 years is probably as long as it takes.
@@GregDownsI’d say release 25 in March ( providing is ready) and then anyone purchasing gets 26 (which will just be a minor update) for a lot cheaper. Or you choose to wait for 26
they spent millions developing women's football, they need to release this whether it's trash or not just to recoup some of the money they've lost due to a bad business decision.
No one really wants to buy in March when season resets in May and then supposedly the hat then another in Autumn for 26? Could be the end of FM they really messed this up
Imagine being one of the poor devs being set impossible deadlines by management at SI, promising everyone that the game will be ready in 4 weeks even though the match engine is so non-functional they can't even release static screenshots of it. It must have felt like waiting for the gallows. SI's suits tried until the very last minute to throw their devs to the wolves (no doubt crunching them 24/7) while taking pre-orders for a game that would never be ready. Heads should roll at the top of SI, this project has been mismanaged on a colossal scale, they have abused their staff, their community and their investors all rather than admit that they bit off more than they could chew with the new features. But this is the games industry, where failure is rewarded and the people at the coalface carry the can. Disgraceful.
Kev - Just picked up FM in the past year, and your channel has become a huge part of my new favorite game. Bad deal for now, but fingers crossed for the long term. Figured I'd send something extra as thanks for all the great content. Keep calm and FM on.
👏
what a guy
That’s very kind of you, thanks very much!
W mans
Fitzmagic!
You referred to it as being like CM4 (and I'd made the same comparison!) before, and you were spot on.
The lack of any footage or real screenshots has been the real red flag - if they were happy with how it looked, and that it was working, we'd have had screenshots every day, they'd have been on every announcement and they'd have been shouting about it everywhere.
Are we going to get patches branded as "Enchantment Packs" again?
When you look back on this, your expansion to Lego this year will look like a genius move. Glad you diversified, even if it's smaller than FM right now.
Yeah, very glad that I don’t have all my eggs in one basket!
May as well just wait till fm26 at this point
Thats over a year away. i prefer march 2025 than november 2025
@@laoch5658 But most people are not gonna buy a game in March 2025 and then another game in November 2025.
@@laoch5658 Well if you get FM every year and if FM26 gets released in the Autumn you are not getting much bang for your buck with 25. About half the playing time you would normally get out of an FM.
I agree I honestly think they won't bring out a game now until FM26
@@aduboo29no they aren't because there won't be another in November.
Do you honestly think they'll be able to finish the 2026 version in 8 months with most of the team still working on the 2025 version? No chance
You deserve complete support person I refuse to get a refund on your link even tho I am gutted about this you’re a great content creator and hope this doesn’t effect you too much, stay strong and ride the wave through this
Just a suggestion for content to keep the channel ticking over until March, how about playing some new games altogether? here are plenty of other simulation games out there from Train Sim World to even Recycle Centre Simulator. I reckon it would be good fun watching you hav a crack at some of those. I watch Loki as well and a few years ago he did a series on To Point Hospital which was great fun.
Do FM one and play fifa career mode 😂
Christ, they might as well release a 24/25 gamestart for FM24 as a DLC
Exactly this. And then release FM26 at the beginning of the season rather than October
Seems like the logical thing to do.
There's mods that do this already though? And databases with everything up to date.
@@acidtwin it's always nice to get an official one though. Plus they might need the financial support cash flow will be tight
all i can say is that some people at SI wanted to release the game in november and had ads and marketing already going, and now they delay. Shame on the people that thought they could get away with releasing a terrible standard game, and i praise the people that were real and said 'this is shit lets not'
Being old enough to remember the Championship Manager 3 launch, this is following the same trajectory that was so this is not surprising...
It was Champman 4, not 3, with the march delay.
@@iekue Feel free to go check the release date for CM3, I'll wait...
@@Djungelurban Ah yea thought CM4 was the first one.... Guess with "big" changes it always releases in march? lol.
@@iekue Yup, that's definitely the trend.
Would absolutely love to see you do a NLTL on a retro data base from say the late 90s early 2000's. Would be great to see players come through youth systems etc and maybe u could do hybrid name in the game.
Not really surprised, given that the store page for the game featured no screenshots of the match engine.
Kev see for an idea to keep us going til March, you've already proven yourself king of the pentagon - but the thing was it was very summarised - 5 months is enough time i hope to maybe start a pentagon series and do that daily and show us in a lot more detail how you tackle it? just a thought make a whole series (akin to non league to legend) but do the pentagon?
Wow, five months! That meeting must have been a peach... "Ok, so how's that bug fixing going?" "Well, you know Starship Troopers? It's a massacre out there...".
If you need ideas can I suggest the decagon challenge… it’s basically the pentagon challenge but you also need to win the 4 major regional international tournaments and the World Cup… only then can you truly say… “I’ve completed it mate”
More chance of one of us actually becoming a football manager than the game being released.
Loving that avatar. KTF!
I’ll be watching and 👍 your content (and other creators) everyday from now until March. Donating when I can. Hang in there! Don’t get a “real job!”
The further delay is actually killing my interest in the game. I carried on my fm23 in fm24.. now getting bored of it. Ive been an avid fan since the championship manager days but now im actually bored of it for the first time.... ever!
Ill come back for fm26
Glad they are delaying though and not releasing garbage.
Have you considered doing a Discord/Patreon group and setting up a network game with some people that are paying a certain tier. Lower tiers vote on transfers etc.. Keep the community engaged and something that I would happily pay a few quid to bridge the gap between now and your next pay day!
Least Wembley to Wembley can continue 👀
Getting ridiculous at this point. The season is basically over by march they might as well just have a big fm24 update
Aberdeen will have had a guard of honour by then 🔴⚪️
March 2025.. the state of the game has to be disastrous
As soon as I saw the post on instagram I was waiting for a kev upload 😂
Lots of ideas would gain at least some short term traction to keep you in the algorithm. Retro database rebuilds, some short term rebuilds. Maybe a Saving Man United rebuild in your current save where they’re a championship team?
Obviously none of them will provide the same boost as a new game, but I do think you’ll have opportunities to keep moving forward.
Hoping you don’t have to resort to an OnlyKevs account!
Called it in the comments the other day.
Remember, for the next few months you DONT HAVE to be an fm player, bring new games to the channel short term, have some laughs, play some different stuff.
I think they might as well wait until next summer now. With the season being almost over in March, starting at the start of next season would be better.
Give us free squad updates this season until then
Additional comment - other game franchises with die hard fans have hit hiatuses - NCAA Football died with NCAA14 and only returned this year - yet PLENTY of creators kept going with NCAA14 for close to a decade and were plenty succesful. Not ideal, but if the worst happens there is hope - us lot will still want our daily FM fix :)
For those saying “why don’t they just skip 25 and release a data update… they probably won’t be able to legally.
They have licenses with FIFA/UEFA/FIFPRO/Premier League/La Liga etc. which will have an agreement to have an annual release and then paying them X amount.
Then from SEGA there are shareholders as it’s a Public company and not a Private one, and they’ll be under pressure to release the game by the end of the Fiscal Year, which is end of March.
So they’ve had to push it back as far as they possibly could and not break contracts, piss off investors/shareholders.
Personally speaking, I REALLY hope that everyone who pre-ordered demands a refund and waits until we get a gameplay reveal in January, if anything just to prove a point.
I was never going to pre-order given the removal of features announced back in June/July, and I was 50/50 about buying it at all when they announced the delay last week as I had a bad feeling it was going to be completely bugged… now with it pushed back to likely the end of March, I’m 90% certain I won’t buy it as FM26 should release in November, so what’s the point? 🤷🏻♂️
Perfect opportunity to learn some MLS, league or league as they just start their season around then
Kev is gonna have to start non league to legend round 2. Should have plenty of time to finish before fm25.
Honestly Kev, you got me back into FM after a few years away. Genuinely would love to see East Fife back and the streams as well. Hopefully FM keep the real life DB up to date to help tide us over
I think you should play a retro version of the game! how cool would that be and different!
Can’t say I’m really surprised 🙄
I’m old enough to remember Championship Manager 2 btw. I’ve been away for a while, but I came back for Football Manager 2022. I’m unfortunately hooked again now. 😂
Well, at least we're gonna have a lot more of the Network Game.
Win the champions league using only academy players "alex ferguson style". Or try and get every member of your 1st team into the england squad - just a couple of ideas
Please continue that EAFC save. Was super fun
I remember Champ Man 4 and how buggy it was. It actually led to a personal exodus of about 15 years from playing the game. A shame, but I’m enjoying FM24 and don’t think I’ll stop playing that in the interim.
The lack of any mention of the beta and then no women’s football update on Monday started to make me think a CM4 type delay was on the cards but was hoping to be proved wrong. A game shorn of features with only a 6 month lifespan is going to test fan loyalty and has to cast doubt on those features returning as promised either during the lifecycle of FM25 (draft mode) or in FM26 (international management). The prospect has to be that it won't be until FM27 that we get a proper complete version of 'Unity FM'.
The least they could have done to try and placate the community is offer a few teaser screenshots of the game unless it’s in such a state that even that isn’t possible.
If the match engine was in a state they were willing to show, they would have never released the Steam page without any screenshots of it. I knew something was seriously wrong when the Steam page had NOTHING showcasing the look of the new Match Engine, which was like 80% of the point of moving to Unity.
Have you thought about doing some classic content from FM games in the past? I follow an F1 gamer who will do play alongs with older versions.
i bet they are too busy adding INCREDIBLE and super relevant features like wamens football
Ah so blaming women for a game not being out.. stay classy sexist
@@niamh9500Blaming the devs for putting time on features noone wants
Doing the planned NLTL on both 24 and 25 could be interesting treating 25 as a sort of alternate universe. Would be a way to compare the two games and what has changed when looking at how results varied between the two first seasons. Failing that, there's always Holme...
no immediate reaction because I was going to skip this year's version anyway. all the signs were there for me to do so and this just validates my insights even more.
Impacts content creators more than us average FM gamers to be fair. November or March makes little difference for me for example.
Heard the news, and decided to restart my FM24 game.........with Spartens !!!
I can see the worry on your face Kev, hopfully the "New" game will be well worth waiting for !!!
Hope you’re okay mate, enjoy your holiday while you can!
Great video Kev. I’m around your age I think, I remember the original Championship Manager 92 😂.
I enjoy the Wembley series massively and I have a 4pm alarm daily ‘Kev o’clock😂’ keep doing what your doing mate 😀
I feel for you Kev and the team working hard to produce the game we all love.
It's shocking that they have given a release date and then 10 days later they have delayed it, that's what's annoying me.
I only pre ordered (using your code) this morning 😅
In a different universe, many years ago....Championship Manager 01/02 was followed by Championship Manager 03/04. Nobody asked what happened to Championship Manager 02/03 because they sneaked it out as an update with the sexy patch name 3.9.68. Massively more complex game these days obviously and licencing issues to take into account, plus the terrible optics if they just bin FM25 and add a database update but it has happened before....
Based on release date I would be surprised if it was renamed fm 25/26 and they go straight onto fm 27 development in an attempt to get a finalized product ready for launch October 2026. I doubt they will launch 2 products in the same year.
I always like to do a 'UK domination' save. Just like a Glory Hunter, but you start unemployed with no badges and Northern Ireland, Wales, Republic of Ireland, Scotland and England leagues. You have to win the league in every country (you can also add cup) and then the European trophies. Thats interesting and should keep you busy.
He's done that already on Twitch.
Kev get yourself an updated database and do your normal FM25 saves on FM24 with an updated database
Hopefully they release an updated database. Maybe NLTL on said updated database?
I agree! You could argue that NLTL doesn't even need an updated database when starting that low and by the time 30 free transfers have come in to overhaul the squad, its irrelevant anyway.
Pentagon challenge in full? That was the best series you've done in years and I'd love to see that be a daily save
I've seen this one before, Eidos and CM5 moving to March 2005. It went really well for them.
Yeh CM4 was also March 2003; CM5 was the first one after SI
Hmm, CM3 also got a March date back in 1999
Hear me out, wigan to world, start off at wigan, working you way up to a top league manager, then become an international manager and win the world cup that would keep you busy for a while 😅
RIP Football Manager
The FM community will support you. Keep going
I commented on the last delay video you did about a possible database update if there was another delay. Sounds like a really good idea now 😅
An idea to haul you over financially: Go for the sleeping views. Repackage old content into longform 2-3-4 hour movies.
Wouldn't it make sense to release FM 25 in September. That would give them plenty of time to give us fans, a highly polished, feature heavy game that we all deserve.
Also! Do yourselves a favor and download one of Mr. Tini’s retro database. Did the 08’09 one and it’s the only thing getting me through the delay.
Long time viewer first time commenter Kev, the main thing that gets this is how much of a kick in the teeth it is to yourself and other FM content creators. I hope you can ride it out no problem and maybe come up with some different and other content on the other channel to bring some views in when the ad revenue is up next few months
Were here for you Kev, it'll be alright
Your other content is fun, I know it doesn't drive nearly the views, but it is fun to me!
They should just release fm 26 in august next year and call it a day. Just rebrand fm25 to 26 and do a squad update in october for all transfers.
They should make the Beta period from when they announced the game would come out in November and work with the fans to make it the best they can, it will be glitchy but it means that the game can be properly tested
Would you consider doing a Retro FM or CM save? A few one offs of old games where you try to win the treble with United, win the league with Leicester etc. Could be something as filler over the next couple of months.
I’m considering lots of options at the moment! Nothing is off the table!
Try FC 25 it's not the full experience but it's up to date and it's got loads of content, Even ultimate team has taken a turn for the better and is quiet enjoyable this year
I can see them skipping 25 and going straight to FM 26 makes sense now, a lot were waiting until 26 anyway because of the drama with 25.
I’m old enough to remember when CM3 and CM4 (which were new iterations of the game) from November to March. Seems to be an ongoing issue when overhauling the game.
Social media wasn’t big back then and I remember finding out about CM3 delay on ceefax! 😂
Then CM4 delay I read in a games magazine (that game even had it’s owns magazine.)
Thing that gets me about this is that SI would absolutely have known they couldn’t have got the game out in November (you don’t have a four month delay without knowing it wouldn’t be ready) and they had people preordering for nothing.
Sorry for you mate.
Gutted the game isn’t coming out but just as gutted about how it affects Kev and all the other content creators!
How about a none league to legend on an updated database?
Good news as far as I'm concerned. I thought they'd rush out a game clearly not ready for release just so they could do so before christmas.
Random comment from a long lurker - i consider the pre-order an investment in all things lollujo, i long ago came for the FM but stayed for the Kev 👍
as in any business that has a drop, only the strong will prevail. some of your competition will close, and if you can stay above the water, the time will come that you will collect their sales (in this case views, subscribers and comments). just need to redefine your day-to-day living and hold on until Nov 25 . the ones that survive these types of mess, after, usually can run as kings..... best of luck and wisdom
Agreed. I’ll be fine. It’s not ideal, but it’s survivable. I’m lucky that I have my other channels to keep me afloat.
Normally I'm totally fine with games being delayed. Better a polished game that's delayed than a broken one that hits its deadline. Annualised sports games are a little different though. I'd really like to see some kind of roster update for FM24. I know there are custom DBs, but it would be great to get an official patch or very reasonably-priced DLC with updated squads.
It is what it is! As some one that's bought it year on year, from day one it's going to feel weird not buying it or playing fm25 this year. One thing though, they've left us with big expectations now for March if it doesn't wow, then big questions need to be asked going forward with the game.
Polish up the updated database from the network game and start a new save is my shout. Obviously bitterly disappointing news about the delay (especially for content creators.) However, I'm sure it will be a good thing in the long run to release a better, more complete game in March. I'm fully expecting a complete game with internationals etc. included, they NEED to deliver this in a big way come March.
Up the fiffin fife
Sorry for the insane scheduling kev
Basically just wait till fm26
glad its being delayed, although i don't know why they don't just delay it till the start of the 2025 season instead
We look forward to your new save, Kev.
I do wonder if it's worth just releasing FM 26 next year and doing a data pack this month. I really can't remember so many games being delayed as have through the last few years.
I would assume early march considering that’s the end of financial year and Sega would want to make as much sales as possible by end of march.
I'll just wait to November next year for 26
How have I only just realised you’re Block Party on TikTok only because saw you were at Legoland.
Super disappointed the game is delayed. I can see them skipping a year if it’s this bad. Though end of financial year end of march makes sense.
Kev let's have a journey man everyone loves a journey man
They should just bring out a transfer update for 24, and then wait for 26 to come out October. The game coming out in March and flopping or not being at a perfect standard could do more damage than just waiting.
they probably need the money
@@infiniteVidz Quite SI can't go an entire financial year without releasing a new game.
Hope you'll be okay Kev.
The biggest thing they're changing is the match engine, and they've had years of using the Unity engine to develop this
Everyone moaning about this. Yes its annoying that its delayed but I'd rather that than release a shitty, unfinished game on its supposed release date like EA do with Fifa. It's obviously a big development project and I'm sure when it does come out it will be an amazing game