Short info: AFTER the CRT screen I made a cut because of long loading times and after 7:00 where the red screen comes the 1541 MK II got loading problems because of timings, but I think better so nothing.
Note: the red border in the end indicates that the drive does not load fast enough which happens with some 1541-IIs for example. "The red" is a debug feature that alerts when new load is triggered before the previous one has finished. Did you run the capture with full 40 tracks? It's missing like 1 minute of stuff while the demo also loops inverted after that. Sorry for the trouble :)
@@muletito Thank you very much for this feedback. Yes, I did some more research and found that side 2 of the floppy is used with more tracks than the regular one. When copying the file via Pi1541 using Supercopy 64 to my real 1541 MK II, the last 5 tracks were not copied. I only realised this after the capture and upload days later. BUT in the future I will create a new capture directly from the CRT and film it with my SLR camera, then I can use the correctly copied floppy. :)
@Papierzeit One basic challenge with the demo was that how we could stuff few minutes of material on one diskside, in ca. 200kb. Using full 40 tracks was quite essential and we really squeezed out almost every byte. Other challenge was to load fast enough to keep the flow & 50fps. The demo basicly loads as fast as possible all the time, within the given rastertime that is slightly limited (read: the effecting takes most of the processing time).
I am not used to see such full screen animations on a C64; plus, these are beautifully synchronized with hypnotic music. Congratulations to the authors.
@Papierzeitfor us who have no CRT can you at least upload this Demo captured from emulator with a good CRT shader? That’s the closest then to the real deal we can get ❤
@@litjellyfish I looked at it on an emulator like Vice afterwards for comparison, it doesn't even come close to what it looks like on my CRT, which I can do when I have more time to film the demo from my CRT with my SLR camera. But that will take some time.
@ no stress. And no it’s so different. Still the CRT emulation in VICE is so so compared to some shaders out there. Not sure if it’s possible to use those on VICE. I don’t emulate a lot so I just saw those shaders here on YT and they looked very good
@@litjellyfish I've been waiting a long time for a demo to film directly from the CRT and that's exactly what this demo will be. At first I wanted to do the capture already with the SLR camera but I thought if then afterwards, as a bonus. There are some very good shaders that are really close to a real CRT, but real hardware is still a bit better for some reasons...
Short info: AFTER the CRT screen I made a cut because of long loading times and after 7:00 where the red screen comes the 1541 MK II got loading problems because of timings, but I think better so nothing.
Note: the red border in the end indicates that the drive does not load fast enough which happens with some 1541-IIs for example. "The red" is a debug feature that alerts when new load is triggered before the previous one has finished. Did you run the capture with full 40 tracks? It's missing like 1 minute of stuff while the demo also loops inverted after that. Sorry for the trouble :)
@@muletito Thank you very much for this feedback. Yes, I did some more research and found that side 2 of the floppy is used with more tracks than the regular one. When copying the file via Pi1541 using Supercopy 64 to my real 1541 MK II, the last 5 tracks were not copied. I only realised this after the capture and upload days later. BUT in the future I will create a new capture directly from the CRT and film it with my SLR camera, then I can use the correctly copied floppy. :)
@Papierzeit One basic challenge with the demo was that how we could stuff few minutes of material on one diskside, in ca. 200kb. Using full 40 tracks was quite essential and we really squeezed out almost every byte. Other challenge was to load fast enough to keep the flow & 50fps. The demo basicly loads as fast as possible all the time, within the given rastertime that is slightly limited (read: the effecting takes most of the processing time).
@@muletito and you know what, I think they're incredibly cool, especially on my good old CRT :)
I am not used to see such full screen animations on a C64; plus, these are beautifully synchronized with hypnotic music. Congratulations to the authors.
Party Mode is ON \o/
So cool to see modern demo scene takes on the c64, just makes such an interesting combo, there are a few doing this.
I think this one is special because no other demo in this particular style has ever reached 50fps on the C64.
I need a CRT to watch this...
and you know what, it's worth it. I played it on my Sony CRT in a dark room and it looks incredible...
@Papierzeitfor us who have no CRT can you at least upload this Demo captured from emulator with a good CRT shader? That’s the closest then to the real deal we can get ❤
@@litjellyfish I looked at it on an emulator like Vice afterwards for comparison, it doesn't even come close to what it looks like on my CRT, which I can do when I have more time to film the demo from my CRT with my SLR camera. But that will take some time.
@ no stress. And no it’s so different. Still the CRT emulation in VICE is so so compared to some shaders out there. Not sure if it’s possible to use those on VICE. I don’t emulate a lot so I just saw those shaders here on YT and they looked very good
@@litjellyfish I've been waiting a long time for a demo to film directly from the CRT and that's exactly what this demo will be. At first I wanted to do the capture already with the SLR camera but I thought if then afterwards, as a bonus. There are some very good shaders that are really close to a real CRT, but real hardware is still a bit better for some reasons...