Which is Better Value?! LEGO PAB Cups Jugs vs Cardboard Boxes Pick a Brick Build
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video we are going to compare the old Pab Jugs / cups to the new LEGO cardboard boxes from the Pick and Build walls (aka Pick a brick) - which is better value. Is this a case of shrinkflation by LEGO where they are reducing the size of what it is but still keeping it at the same price.
In the UK, these are £14.99 each. One was recently filled up at Lester Square city store in London. The other was done at the Bluewater LEGO store which is east of London (which seems to be one of the trialing places for these boxes, along with a store in Berlin).
We will be doing this with a 4x4 plate element as this would help getting us better sizes in the box and seeing which is better value. Is this a good move by LEGO or a step backwards?
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Good job.. as a Bricklinker it hurts my eyes to see parts stuck together but for personal use it makes sense to stack the items from PAB.
Appreciate it. For me the fact i can finally get these items in bulk at a good price has thrilled me and will be put to good use in MILs plates. Taking the stacks apart won't be my favourite part.
Nicely done video. I learned something new today. Thanks
Great to hear! Always great to learn something new.
The new BOXES look great! Hopefully it will have a positive effect on wider pricing, as plenty of Brinklink stores top up stock from the PAB wall when good parts come in. so we may see a slight drop on BL prices for some stuff. thinking 2x4 bricks etc maybe I'm just being overly optimistic there?!
Yeah I think they are much better. I think if they are easier to stack and you aren't dealing with a tapering cylinder, it can only be a good thing. Here's hoping there are more opportunities for BL sellers. Certainly the 25% increase in PaB cups a couple of years ago hurt.
That he for this video. I was thinking the box wasn’t going to get you anywhere near what the cup got us. Appreciate the subscription back. Boxes
Yeah its not often a change is made and you get significantly more
hi them to in the video clip are no more this to do with the green side of lego it silly when i was buying parts in would put the lego into
bag and reused the cup in the shop same day
this is the first time i have seen this i can see why do think the price has gone far to high now you are very right the new box is better for bricks
but the price has gone up with it i was told they are making change over
In the UK, on 1/1/2022 the Pab cuips increased price overnight by 25%, along with other prices. UK also had further price increases september 2022, like most of the rest of the world (so the hit on some sets got hit twice ie Assembly Square).
Thanks for the review and thoughts on the new BOXES. I may pop down to Bluewater and give them a try
Honestly I'm eager for the shift to the boxes. I was like you, very hesitant and worried. I'm curious if they'll still allow the use of the plastic cups once the boxes are fully transitioned in. I see the cups being useful for bulk small (keyword small) pieces and the boxes being useful for big piece bulk.
Also I'm curious if there's a relatively easy way to collapse the boxes down so they can be stored flat instead of boxy.
At bluewater they still allow the use of plastic cups and where even talking if allowing you to exchange pab for the boxes. Collapsing the boxes is dead simple, along with poping them up. Store really well and carry nicely in a back pack / bag
@@mattelder Oh wow, that's awesone! Happy to hear, thank you. 😁
Matt interesting to hear your views on the differences - I feel largely it’s a good change, especially on the bigger picture scale such as the environment and nice to hear the LBB term ‘Pab Jugs’ rubbing off on you too
Yeah, credit to lego, I think all round this is a good change and "it is worth it". I got half way through filming and then had to think ... are they PaB cups or PaB Jugs?! Just wanted to get the video done but you are such a bad influence
BOXES! Great to see a comparison video!!! Super thanks!!! Can't wait to fill up one myself!!!! But no trail in the Netherlands unfortunately...
Yep, now waiting for the rest of London stores to get the boxes - only know if the 1 store so far. They are nicer than the cups for bigger pieces.
@@mattelder yes! Especially for de bigger plates and pannels etc! Wondering or small 1x1 thing will slip out of the boxes 🤔
@@MamasBricks don't think small tiles will slip out the bottom. They may slip out the top of the box is inverted and will naturally come down to how well taped shut it is.
Boxes, very useful video buddy. 🙏🏽
Thanks for watching all the way through and great to hear it was useful
I am very surprised they let you get away with those cups!!
BOXES look good. Will have to pop up soon to Bluewater to have a look.
Yeah I was thinking they might take issue. Approach checkout staff with a smile and ask them how their day is. When you work in retail, if a customer is nice to you, it stands out.
@@mattelder next video should be just putting them in loosely see how many you can fit in each 😀.
Then how many 2x4 bricks, 2x2 etc finishing with 1x1 studs! Keep you busy. ☺️
@@markdixon662 thanks for the suggestions. Certainly if I'm at the wall for those, I'll keep it in mind
you know i think they used sand or water to work the vol out if you did it this way they would be the same
Volumes might be the same but obviously the shape of the container determines massively how many larger elements you'll be able to get in easily.
Nice comparison of BOXES vs cups
Great to hear that you think so!
Interesting.
I have used his measures and counted it with 23x11 studs. So it is 253 studs per level.
With 1x2 bricks: 760 parts
With 1x2 tiles: a bit over 3.000 parts
In the old plastic cups you could fit in around 650 1x2 bricks (stacked like he stacked the plates in this video).
Then you cannot even compate the 1x2 tiles, because you cant stack them in the plastic cups. Even if you could it would be 2600 and because you cant i guess more in the 2200 range because there is a lot of air between the parts.
So you have around 20% more volume in the new cardoard boxes what is actually amazing.
Price calculation.
With the 1x2 bricks; when you choose for example the Light Bluish Gray Masonry bricks, they cost 4ct/piece in germany. 760x 4ct + 5 euro shipping would be 35€.
So the pab option saves you around 50% compared to bricklink.
With the 1x2 tiles it is even better.
When i want to buy 3.000 of them in trans light blue it is 2ct/piece. So it will be 60€+5€ shipping so 65€.
With the pab you save around 70% compared to bricklink.
So this is a very good solution for creatong water for example
Love the analysis! It all sounds great. The one thing you might not be accounting for is the time to stack 760 1x2 bricks. Not impossible but how long do you want to stand there 😋🤔 .
It will be interesting to see how it all goes.
@@mattelder well yeah that takes a while. But it is compensated by saving 50% or more. Im building a huge pirate Moc, that will have the size of around 30 48x48 baseplates. It will be with a few pirate ships, houses, troops, villagers, pirate island and a islanders village.
Right now, i have 5 ships (10040 barracuda, 2x creator ship, brick bounty, and the blue coat ship). Then im already building my port city with houses, docks, imperial fort, market, etc. Right at the moment im sorting out the parts for the medieval village and the ideas medieval blacksmith.
I have more than 120 blue and redcoats, a lot of pirates and some pirates of the caribbean figures.
And in total i spent 0 for that.
My lego story is this: when i was child i was plsying lego. Then at some point i stopped and a few months ago, i wanted to build a pirate ship. I found it used from a woman nearby and she is selling used lego for years.
So i started selling aswell, and i have a business now that refinances my hobby. I buy up used lego from pricate sellers, sort out figures and popular sets and expensive parts and sell them. I have over 100kg of lego from that and im at a net profit of 2.000€ after 4 months. In total i bought lego for around 2.500 and sold things for 4.500.
It is crazyyy.
Very good video! Thank you for your time and work here! Now we need a comparison of how the new boxes fit irregular, curved and large elements. On my 4-hour train ride yesterday, I spent over an hour re-packing my small PAB box (from the Hamburg LEGO Store) to see how compact I could get it. My buy included some wagon wheels and windshield pieces. I didn't have a small cup with me for comparison, so I'll try it later at home. The box needs a window and waterproofing, but it's ok. I'll miss the cups.
It gonna make buying bricks into 3d tetris 😊
Very true, a least a more pleasant version of the conical one that accompanied pab cups.
Exactly! I was just thinking how much like Tetris it is (but luckily, the bricks don't vanish when you complete a row😅🤓)! On my 4-hour train ride yesterday, I spent over an hour re-packing my small PAB box to see how compact I could get it. I didn't have a small cup with me for comparison. The box needs a window and waterproofing, but it's ok. I'll miss the cups.
Boxes. Nice job Matt.
Thanks for that Lester and great to hear!
Boxes 👍🏻😊
Thanks for the watch thru
@@mattelder My pleasure 😊
I thought those layers of green plate were Minecraft, haha
Now that you mention it, I can totally see it! 😁
Can someone just measure the actual volumes of the containers with water?
But wouldn't it get wet?! :P volume can be useful as a guide but for the current PaB cups, the volume hides the fact it is a tapering cylinder. How do you anticipate the volume will be helpful?
@@mattelder volume is an scientific measurement. Seems useful from an perspective of understanding what is happening to the size of the containers
BOX
Thanks for that!!
Great video but I still prefore the cups as they are reusable and have a fun lid... Meanwhile those boxs seem to be more disposable as they are very flisy looking and while they have a fun pattern they could have had a fun shape in even more lego friendly dimensions. Edit: boxes and yeah I want a clear not flimsy window to!
Yeah I think the cups stand up to water a lot better. So if you are chewing through boxes at a faster rate than cups, may not be a huge environmental save.
HI like the new box
they gone back to the cups i was in the white city shop on the way to some where it was in the day time after 15.00 new train fairs
there wads not alot in the shop week ends or new shop gets shoppers in
i have alot of the old color bricks they don't sell well on bricklink i been all over bricklink sellers having there old plate
s and bricks bob
Yeah the box trial didn't last long. When the boxes scan now, they scan at £16.99 as opposed to £14.99. Makes me think when the new boxes come out, there is going to be another price rise. There are certain colours that look like they sell well - grey for star wars mocs.
First BOXES! Enjoyed your video and appreciate the information. I’m new to Lego and am still surprised at this method of pricing. Why don’t they just price the parts by weight?
Welcome to the wonderful world of hunting for parts. Always refreshing to have what we take for granted questioned. There are a few lego stores around the world that do things by weight but from my understanding, it is way more expensive than by cups. It would make sense by weight but guessing the mould costs might differ significantly
Pricing the parts by weight would make the boxes more expensive
Hey Matt, was at the BlueWater store today and got to buy a new box, managed to get about 500 1x6 tiles in. Crossed them over into pot when I got home and sure enough about 70 extra pieces.
Great and they do seem like much better value! Handy to know about the extra 70 pieces. Did you pack them much or just tip them in
@FAMILY Bricks Nah, just chucked them in. Had the kids with me. They have zero patience!
@@kds3025 totally know that feeling "we don't want to go to the lego store if you are going to take forever on the pab wall". Thanks for stopping by the stream
BOXES
Thanks for watching all the way through
Boxes
Thank you for the watch thru!
I rather have the cup.. you can re-use it.. the box not so much.
Yeah the cups you could easily reuse and get a little bit of money off. In the UK recently, the price went up yet again. It's been a 40% increase in the last couple of years. Bricklink generally works out better value
hi to all lego fans this is the same space as 188 of 2x4 or 752 1x2
there is one very big plus when i get my bricks all i have to do is make a block and when
i am at home i can keep them as is
and in the shop if they are in side the card box o can tip it out in to any bag and use it again
once i payed for them
from 166 to 188 12 2x4 bricks this the space you gain with the new one boxes you are
getting a £1 in bricks they work out to be 8p each £15.04 i know they will do away
with the cups in the end
there is alot of good parts you just can't get in the cups
the cups are not very green i ony thing i have lot of old cups could i still get 75p of the new
ones
i have email the shop some time
Boxes. Where’s the small one?
Thanks for watching through. You mean small PaB Box or something else?
Lol yup small cups and small boxes.
@@brickapics but it was hard enough doing the 4x4 plates in a big round one ... do you want me to suffer?! :P
Boxes are so...boxy
Are you sure?! Next you'll be saying that water is wet 💦 :D
boxes
Thanks for watching all the way through 😄😄😄
hi will look in to this and going buy the old work out as well
iti make a block up with parts that i would buy the size 23 x 11 x 6 and see that space is left in a cup i use 1x2 1x4 bricks and 2x4 160x 2x4 i have to got better i looking at 10p a 2x4 brick
is my max the old cups is just under this £15.00 for 160 brick in vol
now many 2x4 bricks in vol can i get in the new box i use to go by the stud
a 2x4 would be 8p each 8p x 160 = £12.80
going by studs of bricks how many studs can i get i have to look in to it
my sister has 2 kids and they are all ways asking for parts all the time i have some
1x 2 bricks i can get it easy and make a 23 x 11 x 6 block and see if i can get them in a up i do
it later and see
when it take of i just know lego will say the lid is not down right
in the day time work hr's is the best time to fill old cups i am in the recording game
so i am up way alot after 11am very quiet in white city