Forget a background check, or even DNA testing. Just pull their freaking chart!! Would love to see brain scan, psyche profile and natal chart all synchronized somehow!! Wow!! What a fantastic tool we could be using in medicine and really ALL aspects of the psyche. I'm hooked now!!!
Yes, it is. - I had a hard time leaving, because I look into her Heart, and see That. - But she (Pluto through her) keeps manipulating / is unable to quit it, (the investment in it [ego] is too deep ] ) And Pluto will never x admit x her behaviors ( altough she Knows it clearly [maybe just not the extend/scope of hurt that was caused, but they know.) - Admitting all of their attempts of games/manipulations of mind-control (trying to own another being), would mean that they have to step off from the throne of their ego, expose themselve thru radical honesty, and thus be Kind, Human, Loving, but they canNot, because Pluto needs to suck the light from the Sun (inner planet person) because they live with a closed /hurt heart & they feel/believe therefore that they are a bottomless abbys ( and as long as these immature anxiously-attaching pluto-persons keep playing that game, instead of Growing Within, finding their own truth, awareness, love, As Long as they Ignore their True nature withIN themselves, They will opt for the easy [weak attempts to trick [ trying to forcefully steal energy from the other’s being, because that's the easy (but false, and weak) way/ a self-defeating (sabotaging) mechanical behavior, that will only deprive themselves long-term. But they’re high on it, it’s like a drug to them. It energizes / excites them if their ego’s feel a sense of power. Even erotically they have a perverse dominative pleasure from playing games. This way they can cling to their anxious ego-games, and hence do Not have to grow [ this denial is Destructive for all involved, and thus, for the Universe/earth itself.) If there are too many Squares, oppositions, contra-parallels, IT is indeed, Meant to End. Leaving is Hard, but only then One comes back to, truth, love, intrinsic-worthiness, peace. heart, life. Walking away is the only option here. ( If/ When there are pre-dominantly abbrasive-plutonic-Links prevalant. ) Leaving is tough ( because you see their drowned heart ). But they don't learn, can not learn ( they don't want to drop their investment/ego in their hunger after control / power [ their pride is intertwined there ] ), it's destined to end. Leaving them re-connects one deeper to the heart. And to all that truly matters. ~
@@jhbrian. After 1 year of the previous message I'm in a very different place. I feel Happy. I'm still single but I'm happy. The love i feel inside is for everyone I meet. Life is wonderful and God is the love I used to miss.
I am in a twin flame realtionship . Unbelievable that you hit this so exact . I do not wish this on any human being. It can really be dangerous. The dark place is so extreme. Control selfish cunning baffling . Sex is really strong Attraction becomes intense. I am now aware of this just by reading and experience. He can't seem to let go but I know how this works. Lessons lessons lessons. The take everything energy the blocked other lovers etc. Thank you so much. Whoever is here for twin flame I wish you growth and peace...good luck to you.
His Pluto is on my Venus 0 degree orb. It’s been the most draining and exhausting experience of my life. Never again, still haven’t recovered yet 😢 I just want my autonomy and freedom back, I fell for things like a fool. I’m hip on the mind games now and after doing cutting cords and instilling boundaries I’ve become stronger. Financial power over me so I’m rebuilding up my self esteem and resources. I wasn’t aware of psychic connection before this relationship, I was oblivious and naive. Not anymore!! Thank you tremendously 🙏🏾
My goodness MJ! This was very very helpful!! Please keep making these type of videos. I have learned A LOT from you. I'm so thankful for you! I swear my last husban squared everything in my chart. He put me through hell he did everything you said they can do to me an I was so trapped emotionally,physically, all of it omg all kinds of traps...He tried taking my life an he caused me to try to mine. I know this is wayy wayy to much information but who ever is reading this and understand what I went through bc they are or did go through it there is away out of it and the key is to listen to the words an what MJ saying on here on all her videos. She saved me!! Im out of depression of 25 yrs. And I'm 32 yrs old. Thank you MJ SOOO MUCH. I'm starting to see more my purpose I'm seeing the end of all my battles BC of your magic your light. Thank you.. much love to you my awsome friend and to our wonderful tribe. Don't worry be happy no matter the situation is bc there is magic behind that happiness you do ✨️ 🌈🙏💜💜✌️
Same experience here with my current marriage. I have to build myself up in order to leave I refuse to leave my children with him although he’d love to defame my name, I am building my business strong enough to protect myself and my children. I don’t want his alimony despite me helping him tremendously in his education and career. That’s me cutting the cord, socioeconomic, emotional and mental freedom from possessive and controlling Leo and Capricorn placements. People with these placements heavy have it out for me. My 7th and 12th houses. His Pluto is on my Venus exact conjunction but his Capricorn stellium in my 12th house has been equally damaging.
I'm a person with a lot of Scorpio energy and I seem to attract people into my life who NEED me in one way or another. They speak of needing me or longing for me. I also seem to always be the recipient of these toxic behaviours you describe of the Pluto person. I wonder why that is 🤔 I absolutely loved this video.
I did the synastry as far as compatibility (not romantic) for family members and myself. Im the Pluto person for them. Like for my dad- my Pluto squares his ascendant and I went no contact last year because I called him out on being FAKE! Pluto is here to transform so it makes sense that it would put a spot light on things that are inauthentic.
Omg I get it. Spent 28 years with a plutonic, and he has dominated me and I have lost so much fire 🔥 I feel I have Healed what brought me here Mary Jo. I want the Universe to blow it up, dropping the Tower on it lol. It was a very sexual relationship, I mistook it for Love.
I love the feeling looking back and understanding why and enjoying those hard lesson. Well, back then, I didn’t want to listen to my inuition or the universe. Great one, MJ! 🌟🫶🏻
I'm Plutonian (29 degrees) and have harsh Mars, Saturn, and Scorpian energies dominating my soul blueprint. Transformation is the theme of my synastry charts. My life has been brutal. But I'm a survivor. I find these descriptions of these aspects and Plutonians rather harsh. Anyone who knows me knows I'm kind and gentle, a beautiful soul. But Im also a sh@!t revealer. Meaning all I hav to do is walk into a room and people's wounds come gaping open by means of their own judgements. They hate what they see in me, but what they're seeing is themselves. Unawoke, they blame me. I have to wear my Pluto like a badge of honor. God assigned it to me, to help heal others through discomfort. To expose their wounds so they can heal themselves. God gave some people the gift of light. But he gave me the gift of dark. Not something I'd choose, but have to accept. And I wish not to be demonized for it. Plutonians need to heal too, and need love just as much as anyone else.
OMG 10 years of shrink-care and you nsiled it MJ. Vive la diffèrence! 1000 mercis! If there were a few crumbs remsining of attachment, the pids have eaten them all. Thank you dearheat! 66 and forever learning to be free of a good part of my shadow side! 🙏🏻💪😂❤
This is exactly my situation. Right on point. Most difficult situation I have ever been in. Trying to recover , separate and heal from this. I've lost myself....am staying strong as I can,Walk away and learn.
I was about to move in after a year. There was no one I'd ever felt more at home with. I left after the final dumb fight that stupidly escalated. We both have venus opposite pluto in our charts and an 8th house composite sun. When it ended it felt like a true death. Lost my family of origin at 14 (28 years ago) this loss felt greater. It ripped open all of the childhood wounds that needed to be healed in a new way. I had to truly die and be reborn into someone else to navigate life after. It's been a year since the ending, darkest hardest loss. Was essentially the loss of myself, the old me. Plutonic relationships are something else. Most of my intimate relationships have been like this given my natal aspect, now that I am aware - I am doing the work. Trauma therapy, learning about my blindspots through astrology - lots of things going on in my life to aid healing. It helps to also have a fulfilling career in service of others.
So glad am still single focusing on me. My personal experiences have revealed and taught me alot of things. My awareness, when my true person comes, will be ON more than ever. Am an Air sign and YES the balance is crucial for my personal well being. Always grateful 🙏MJ for these chats. Thank you Lovely💝🌟✨
This has been a revelation of a 15 year relationship... exactly how u described... thank you so much for your insights and teachings you are undoubtedly my favourite reader / teacher on TH-cam... Currently can't get away and no idea how to heal my life but learning thru you... thank you so much xoxo
Thanks MJ …the best explanation of my situation I’ve ever heard. I’m out now but it was the longest dark night of the soul anyone could imagine. However, I am free and successful ….it caused me to grow in ways I don’t think I could have done any other way. It still helps to finally hear an explanation.
Oh my goodness, I feel like this has answered my questions on today’s new moon! I’m currently in a emotionally abusive relationship and he is gaslighting me. We’ve been together 13 years and I’m now seeing the truth and seeking my way out. This has just confirmed everything even more. Our relationship is plutonic! Most of the negatives you spoke of with the different planets is what I am experiencing. I can’t be with this person anymore. Nearly all of your readings this week have resonated with me so much! Thank you so much 🙂💜
OMG! MJ this information is vital to our Mental Health. You have identified the lessons that we came here to learn but this is Ph.D. level. You have enlightened me in a real and powerful way this past year. You explained in a few minutes the most destructive relationship I have been in the past two years he is my kryptonite. I thought I was dealing with a energy vampire but I see now it is a Scorpio who is ruled by Pluto and I knew we were in a soul contract I now see what I am to learn from this and now I know what I am involved with. You hit the nail on the head about the obsession and manipulation. Thank You! You saved me years of therapy! I love you!
OMG, this explains so much to me now about the relationship I stepped away from ! It has been the hardest past 2 yrs to stay present with how many layers in me that needed to be healed ! I’m starting to stand in my own power again ! Thank you
Πολλά συγχαρητήρια από την μικρή Ελλάδα !!! ✨💜 Τα αγγλικά μου , δεν είναι πολύ καλά και αυτός είναι ο λόγος που γράφω στα Ελληνικά . Υπέροχο θέμα και ο τρόπος που το αναλύεται ! ... βάζω μετάφραση για το κατανοήσω όσο καλύτερα γίνεται 🙂 Επιτέλους μια πολύ ωραία ανάλυση , για τα Πλουτώνια ωροσκόπια και σχέσεις .. και από προσωπικές εμπειρίες ... Ευχαριστούμε πολύ , να είστε πάντα καλά ! ✨🌹
😳 WOW! I don't want to believe this, but the pieces of the puzzle just fell into place about my 10 year relationship (7 years of it married).... The stress, anxiety, emotional, verbal etc... has affected me physically.... Completely destroyed, but he will not leave. Why won't he leave? ... Your advice is greatly appreciated!
This is exactly what I need to hear. Please keep making this type of video. For me it's always about the energy that the planets bring us. Plus the people who come into our lives to teach us lessons. Thank you so much MJ!
Wow this was the best ever . As I am 60 now learned a lot especially all the descriptions you reminded me of in my past relationships . That was incredible thanks for sharing.
I gasped when you were talking about Pluto squaring the ascendant it is so true this is such an excellent video thank you so much for sharing this info ❤
I appreciate your videos and insight .. that being said, as the Pluto person in a Pluto square Venus situation... I am not now nor have ever been controlling. I think it's because high trust and keeping my respect and my partners respect is so important to me. I would love and maybe feel obsessed with her (which i enjoy!).. but control? Nope.
Everything is SO intensely profound lately (nearly at EVERY turn) that I 'almost' can't handle the fast & furious flood! What does it mean to me now to NOT have to handle it alone or without your direction?? WHEW! God bless you, Mary Jo
He’s my neighbor we have exact squares. His Pluto squares my moon and mars. I knew something was up when I first saw him. Married. I’m so happy I’m aware or boy would I be hurt right now. Thank you for Thai video. 🙏🏼
I broke up with a leo a few weeks ago ... its the third time we got back together, 6 months 3 months, 3 months with a year seperated.. I thought maybe i self sabotaged and was bringing insecurities to the relationship so met up again.... i could tell pretty quickly that nothing had changed and i felt no love from him what so ever, only rejection and sense of feeling unworthy and so drained demanding my time all day every day... no respect for my bounderies ... i am healing ongoing and always look at my lessons. Great video, thank you 💙
O my gosh MJ you really nailed it with this video. 100% on the money. Thank you for the guidance. You've help me for a few years now and I'm so grateful for all you do. 🙏♥️👁️
Remember it is ALSO possible that BOTH parties are the Plutonian energy. A Double Whammy so then the subconscious interplay then goes both ways between the two parties; which is even more complex but “balanced” at the same time. Also, when one or both parties are already Plutonic in their own Natal “DNA” the interplay is less traumatic and bearable because it’s naturally felt already for this person. Lastly, the parties Personal level of self-awareness plays a big part too in how well they’ll handle the interplay. As difficult as these aspects can be they do have a higher divine Spiritual purpose. EVERYTHING happens for a reason and are not to always be demonized. All things work together in this Universe for our Ultimate good. Having a spiritual practice in place is extremely important in these connections, and in general, aside from a Plutonian connection🙏🏾
Literally experiencing this right now. Finally ended it no resentment just love and light. Had to go do a synestry reading to make sure I was right and just as you said. The chart shows why I'm feeling what I'm feeling. Love him to pieces but I can't stay.
OMG MJ... I just got out of a 10 years in and out of THAT. I have been healing and understanding and integrating the lessons for the past year and a half and recently, finally released him with love , light and gratitude for the hard lessons learned. At last... moving on.😊 Thank you so much. Onwards and upwards! 💫🌅🌟
I know this story too well 😪 He always wanted to change my mind & beliefs, always said I was Crazy when I spoke my mind or feelings. After 7 years of off & on I have been staying away from him for two years But I saw him today sneaking around where I live . This Gemini has Mars in Leo. Mr. Aquarius needs to give it up & go away , Back to his drugs , lying & non commital ways . Luv you MJ 💓
I'm so thankful I felt the need to look at your channel. Some divine intervention saw to it so I could survive myself. I just filed for divorce and letting go of this man has been a very hard thing to do. I have completely lost myself in our 30 some year marriage. And finally I found the reasons. I always knew we were destine but I couldn't find the answers to why it went the way it did. Also I couldn't understand why he was the way he was with me. Your 100% correct ours was a very dangerous, dark, and toxic bond. I thank you for setting me free with the answers I'll never get from him. You literally saved my life. Thank you again.
Loved this video MJ!! I wished I had this information 13 years ago. It would have saved me a lot of heartbreak but I'm glad I broke free of thinking this was my twin flame. I have been much happier since I come to realize that it was a karmic relationship.
Appreciate the in depth information provided in this video and looking forward to future videos explaining the other aspects, particularly positive ones. Currently experiencing transformative change and growth with someone who has Sun Trine my Pluto within 1 degree. So far, the changes have been welcomed but wonder if that might flip.
She is my mother, she is an Aries, she has NPD, and borderline personality disorder and I am temporary living with her until I get back on my feet. I am an empath trying to heal codependency, I am a Cancer we are completely opposite people. I can do this, I can get through this. Thank you
Thank you so, so much for this incredibly informative video. You're such a gift to us all, especially for shining the light on plutonic vs TF, so we can all save ourselves time, energy & sanity! I can't wait for the opposition explanations 🙏. Ironically enough I had a pluto ⬛️ moon relationship & its also in my chart 🤯, both tight orbs, but without this video I would never have been able to pick up on why this person taught me these lessons & what I'm doing to myself too! You're an incredibly natural & inspirational teacher, Thank you x
alll…of the things…holy !!!! right ON holy shit thank god it’s over now….totally toxic lost everything important to me chaos harmful codependent and absolutely no boundaries …..devastating …great overview MJ ..,thank you 💖
My Scorpio Pluto conjuncts his Scorpio Sun… as challenging as this is, and yes often toxic…there is a lot of unconditional love between us. We likely will not end up together if I can stick to my own boundaries and resist him charming me back with his Sun warmth, I am ready to be done with this. I have had to learn how codependent I am, how to stop seeking external validation from my unavailable lovers to prove my worth when my worth is innate… I NEVER feel chosen and it’s all I want. So by leaving this behind for GOOD, I am finally choosing myself. At times, I feel like HE fits the Pluto person’s description better than me! I’ve matured a lot as a result of this Plutonic connection, but I’ve never been more depressed, lost, lacked self-respect and self-esteem as much as I do when I’m with him. It is soul-wrenching. Grateful for the experience but will be even more grateful to be able to let it go
This was one of the times when I was spellbound. Thank you My darling it was way better than I expected. You are of course as beautiful as ever which just adds to the attraction. Thanks again All my love MG.......... MG
I just want to say thankyou God fr saving my life...right inbetwwen your video chat This is a lot later arrived knowledge Yet enlightening😇...quit it looooooong ago... Noone but God has saved me
MJ you are so helpful and informative. I just have to tell you thank you so much. I admire your knowledge and strength to share these messages with all of us. I have sun and moon Pluto square with my partner and this makes a lot of sense. It’s an intense relationship and it’s making more sense with you explaining and sharing this information. I appreciate you learning so much and taking your time to do so. Thank you beautiful ✨
There’s a lot of good information here but that it feels like you’re villainizing the Pluto person when the soul contract and destiny is what cause the two to come together. The souls made that agreement.
I'm only half way through this but jeez this is absolutely blowing my mind. I've been diving into these older videos as I'm trying to figure out my partnership of 8 years now. All of this makes so much sense. When I first laid eyes on my partner in a coffee shop we both frequented, his energy was so off-putting to me that I said I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole lol. Then one day at the coffee shop we struck up a conversation. I had seen a medium 6 months prior about a relationship I was in that was bad and she told me I would be meeting my current partner at the end of that year (2016). What a ride. We must have had a rough ride in our past life that this one is healing. And it's crazy b/c our relationship never made sense to me nor the pull I have. I've been wondering what the heck is going on all these years. When we have conflict we literally become 2 volatile people that I'm shocked. It's so weird to witness. But they must be the versions of us from the other life we are healing in this one. We are both making that effort but it is definitely Pluto at work. I checked our charts. Also, when the dark night started for me, we stopped having sexual intimacy. That was 2018. Thank you for making these videos MJ. I wish I found them earlier. But I guess this is the right timing. xx
Wow! Thank you so much for these videos!!! Definitely checking Pluto out in my chart. This would definitely help me to understand what I recently went through and to be aware!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you 🙏 😊
You said in a recent video that we needed a spiritual teacher or guide....this video is the hard lesson I needed to hear, you are my guide! Thank you!!! Two relationships both their Pluto squared my mercury and one I'm still in contemplating ending it. Let me couple that with he also is Pluto squared my venus. You explained in words exactly how I feel....in both mercury and venus. So much so it brought tears to my eyes. Wow...it all resonated and is very hard to hear. Thank you again MJ 💓
Thank you for these videos that you break down ooohhhh so well!!! They are very helpful to me, my growth and understanding. Thank you so much bless you to infinity and beyond!😇🥰😍
What's confusing and wrong, is that I could be with one person and my fortunes double. On another day, with that same person, everything gets drained. Odds are stacked.
These are so helpful MJ! Can't wait for more! Both our Pluto's square and trine each other's Venus' 🙄 and my Ascendant squares both their sun and moon at 0 & 1 degrees. Crazy to see these things on paper after decades of feeling them! Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🙏🤍
Sure enough your right! Love to have my chat read back in 2005. These people can have a entity of murder connected to them! I got out alive! Devil was trying to take me out! God guided me out safely! 🎉
Thanks for this teaching. I have some of these difficult aspects with my mother, who I finally went no contact with 2 years ago, in my mid forties. Her Pluto is conjunct my Venus retrograde in Leo ( 7th house) which makes it square my Moon conjunct NN in Scorpio (10th) and square my SN in Taurus in the 4th. We do have some other hard aspects as well.
I was in your class on Tuesday for the birth charts which I loved , than you! I did a chart for me and my husband right after the class and was trying to decipher it , feeling I am not understanding what these differences and thought I wish M.J. would have a class to teach this, and here you are so beautifully answering that thought with this very wonderful very helpful insightful video. Thank you for opening the door for me in so many way ushering me onto the train ! Your light and wisdom is very much needed and appreciated in this world by so many. Thank you . Ease, joy and love always, in all ways possible. Be well. ☀️🌈
I missed it again. I have new member in our house. She is such a joy. Her name is Luna. She is kinda rescue dog. She is a Tea cup Poodle. Spent half a day at a veteran. Will try again to join Q and A.
22:00 Pluto square Sun
26:44 Pluto squre Moon
30:15 Pluto square Ascendant
36:00 Pluto square Mars
45:12 Pluto square Venus
49:00 Pluto square Saturn
53:36 Pluto square Jupiter
41:47 Pluto square Mercury
@@slsimms1177 Yeah, thank you! I noticed afterwards that I had missed that one. 🙏
Thank you
My pluto is square his Neptune at 0 degrees yo
Excellent, very informative. Please make more
Forget a background check, or even DNA testing. Just pull their freaking chart!! Would love to see brain scan, psyche profile and natal chart all synchronized somehow!! Wow!! What a fantastic tool we could be using in medicine and really ALL aspects of the psyche. I'm hooked now!!!
My thoughts exactly
I still think it's a real pity to have all this love for someone who is here only to wake parts of you but not to stay in your life.
Yes, I have been with somebody for three years and now it brraks my heart to have to let him go. I am going through a very hard time
Yes, it is. - I had a hard time leaving, because I look into her Heart, and see That. - But she (Pluto through her) keeps manipulating / is unable to quit it, (the investment in it [ego] is too deep ] ) And Pluto will never x admit x her behaviors ( altough she Knows it clearly [maybe just not the extend/scope of hurt that was caused, but they know.) - Admitting all of their attempts of games/manipulations of mind-control (trying to own another being), would mean that they have to step off from the throne of their ego, expose themselve thru radical honesty, and thus be Kind, Human, Loving, but they canNot, because Pluto needs to suck the light from the Sun (inner planet person) because they live with a closed /hurt heart & they feel/believe therefore that they are a bottomless abbys ( and as long as these immature anxiously-attaching pluto-persons keep playing that game, instead of Growing Within, finding their own truth, awareness, love, As Long as they Ignore their True nature withIN themselves, They will opt for the easy [weak attempts to trick [ trying to forcefully steal energy from the other’s being, because that's the easy (but false, and weak) way/ a self-defeating (sabotaging) mechanical behavior, that will only deprive themselves long-term.
But they’re high on it, it’s like a drug to them. It energizes / excites them if their ego’s feel a sense of power. Even erotically they have a perverse dominative pleasure from playing games.
This way they can cling to their anxious ego-games, and hence do Not have to grow [ this denial is Destructive for all involved, and thus, for the Universe/earth itself.)
If there are too many Squares, oppositions, contra-parallels, IT is indeed, Meant to End.
Leaving is Hard, but only then One comes back to,
truth,
love,
intrinsic-worthiness,
peace.
heart,
life.
Walking away is the only option here.
( If/ When there are pre-dominantly abbrasive-plutonic-Links prevalant. )
Leaving is tough ( because you see their drowned heart ).
But they don't learn, can not learn ( they don't want to drop their investment/ego in their hunger after control / power [ their pride is intertwined there ] ),
it's destined to end.
Leaving them re-connects one deeper to the heart.
And to all that truly matters.
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@@jhbrian. After 1 year of the previous message I'm in a very different place. I feel Happy. I'm still single but I'm happy. The love i feel inside is for everyone I meet. Life is wonderful and God is the love I used to miss.
@@MsCLAUDIANL 🍀✨
@@MsCLAUDIANLthank you for sharing this. I resolve to come back to this one year from now and report a similar experience
I am in a twin flame realtionship . Unbelievable that you hit this so exact . I do not wish this on any human being. It can really be dangerous. The dark place is so extreme. Control selfish cunning baffling . Sex is really strong Attraction becomes intense. I am now aware of this just by reading and experience. He can't seem to let go but I know how this works. Lessons lessons lessons. The take everything energy the blocked other lovers etc. Thank you so much. Whoever is here for twin flame I wish you growth and peace...good luck to you.
His Pluto is on my Venus 0 degree orb. It’s been the most draining and exhausting experience of my life. Never again, still haven’t recovered yet 😢 I just want my autonomy and freedom back, I fell for things like a fool. I’m hip on the mind games now and after doing cutting cords and instilling boundaries I’ve become stronger. Financial power over me so I’m rebuilding up my self esteem and resources. I wasn’t aware of psychic connection before this relationship, I was oblivious and naive. Not anymore!! Thank you tremendously 🙏🏾
43 years of his bs I allowed… No More! Have been healing myself/my past of unlearning their version of “love” these past 3 years. “I see you!”🔥
My goodness MJ! This was very very helpful!! Please keep making these type of videos. I have learned A LOT from you. I'm so thankful for you! I swear my last husban squared everything in my chart. He put me through hell he did everything you said they can do to me an I was so trapped emotionally,physically, all of it omg all kinds of traps...He tried taking my life an he caused me to try to mine. I know this is wayy wayy to much information but who ever is reading this and understand what I went through bc they are or did go through it there is away out of it and the key is to listen to the words an what MJ saying on here on all her videos. She saved me!! Im out of depression of 25 yrs. And I'm 32 yrs old. Thank you MJ SOOO MUCH. I'm starting to see more my purpose I'm seeing the end of all my battles BC of your magic your light. Thank you.. much love to you my awsome friend and to our wonderful tribe. Don't worry be happy no matter the situation is bc there is magic behind that happiness you do ✨️ 🌈🙏💜💜✌️
OMG! This sounds all to familiar, Thank you for sharing.
Same experience here with my current marriage. I have to build myself up in order to leave I refuse to leave my children with him although he’d love to defame my name, I am building my business strong enough to protect myself and my children. I don’t want his alimony despite me helping him tremendously in his education and career. That’s me cutting the cord, socioeconomic, emotional and mental freedom from possessive and controlling Leo and Capricorn placements. People with these placements heavy have it out for me. My 7th and 12th houses. His Pluto is on my Venus exact conjunction but his Capricorn stellium in my 12th house has been equally damaging.
I'm a person with a lot of Scorpio energy and I seem to attract people into my life who NEED me in one way or another. They speak of needing me or longing for me. I also seem to always be the recipient of these toxic behaviours you describe of the Pluto person. I wonder why that is 🤔
I absolutely loved this video.
Whoa! Must be a reason I'm seeing this right now. Reflecting and creating awareness so that I can recognize this again.
I did the synastry as far as compatibility (not romantic) for family members and myself. Im the Pluto person for them. Like for my dad- my Pluto squares his ascendant and I went no contact last year because I called him out on being FAKE! Pluto is here to transform so it makes sense that it would put a spot light on things that are inauthentic.
Omg I get it. Spent 28 years with a plutonic, and he has dominated me and I have lost so much fire 🔥 I feel I have Healed what brought me here Mary Jo. I want the Universe to blow it up, dropping the Tower on it lol. It was a very sexual relationship, I mistook it for Love.
I love the feeling looking back and understanding why and enjoying those hard lesson. Well, back then, I didn’t want to listen to my inuition or the universe.
Great one, MJ! 🌟🫶🏻
with a square of Pluto, Mercury myself, together with a twin flame 46 years. I get it!
I'm Plutonian (29 degrees) and have harsh Mars, Saturn, and Scorpian energies dominating my soul blueprint. Transformation is the theme of my synastry charts. My life has been brutal. But I'm a survivor. I find these descriptions of these aspects and Plutonians rather harsh. Anyone who knows me knows I'm kind and gentle, a beautiful soul. But Im also a sh@!t revealer. Meaning all I hav to do is walk into a room and people's wounds come gaping open by means of their own judgements. They hate what they see in me, but what they're seeing is themselves. Unawoke, they blame me. I have to wear my Pluto like a badge of honor. God assigned it to me, to help heal others through discomfort. To expose their wounds so they can heal themselves. God gave some people the gift of light. But he gave me the gift of dark. Not something I'd choose, but have to accept. And I wish not to be demonized for it. Plutonians need to heal too, and need love just as much as anyone else.
OMG 10 years of shrink-care and you nsiled it MJ. Vive la diffèrence! 1000 mercis! If there were a few crumbs remsining of attachment, the pids have eaten them all. Thank you dearheat! 66 and forever learning to be free of a good part of my shadow side! 🙏🏻💪😂❤
This is exactly my situation. Right on point. Most difficult situation I have ever been in. Trying to recover , separate and heal from this. I've lost myself....am staying strong as I can,Walk away and learn.
I was about to move in after a year. There was no one I'd ever felt more at home with. I left after the final dumb fight that stupidly escalated. We both have venus opposite pluto in our charts and an 8th house composite sun. When it ended it felt like a true death. Lost my family of origin at 14 (28 years ago) this loss felt greater. It ripped open all of the childhood wounds that needed to be healed in a new way. I had to truly die and be reborn into someone else to navigate life after. It's been a year since the ending, darkest hardest loss. Was essentially the loss of myself, the old me. Plutonic relationships are something else. Most of my intimate relationships have been like this given my natal aspect, now that I am aware - I am doing the work. Trauma therapy, learning about my blindspots through astrology - lots of things going on in my life to aid healing. It helps to also have a fulfilling career in service of others.
So glad am still single focusing on me. My personal experiences have revealed and taught me alot of things. My awareness, when my true person comes, will be ON more than ever. Am an Air sign and YES the balance is crucial for my personal well being. Always grateful 🙏MJ for these chats. Thank you Lovely💝🌟✨
This has been a revelation of a 15 year relationship... exactly how u described... thank you so much for your insights and teachings you are undoubtedly my favourite reader / teacher on TH-cam... Currently can't get away and no idea how to heal my life but learning thru you... thank you so much xoxo
Thanks MJ …the best explanation of my situation I’ve ever heard. I’m out now but it was the longest dark night of the soul anyone could imagine. However, I am free and successful ….it caused me to grow in ways I don’t think I could have done any other way. It still helps to finally hear an explanation.
Oh my goodness, I feel like this has answered my questions on today’s new moon! I’m currently in a emotionally abusive relationship and he is gaslighting me. We’ve been together 13 years and I’m now seeing the truth and seeking my way out. This has just confirmed everything even more. Our relationship is plutonic! Most of the negatives you spoke of with the different planets is what I am experiencing. I can’t be with this person anymore. Nearly all of your readings this week have resonated with me so much! Thank you so much 🙂💜
OMG! MJ this information is vital to our Mental Health. You have identified the lessons that we came here to learn but this is Ph.D. level. You have enlightened me in a real and powerful way this past year. You explained in a few minutes the most destructive relationship I have been in the past two years he is my kryptonite. I thought I was dealing with a energy vampire but I see now it is a Scorpio who is ruled by Pluto and I knew we were in a soul contract I now see what I am to learn from this and now I know what I am involved with. You hit the nail on the head about the obsession and manipulation. Thank You! You saved me years of therapy! I love you!
OMG, this explains so much to me now about the relationship I stepped away from ! It has been the hardest past 2 yrs to stay present with how many layers in me that needed to be healed ! I’m starting to stand in my own power again ! Thank you
👏 👏 Great!
same here 🥳
As someone who knows astrology, that was an excellent video; very clearly explained and helpful. Thank you. Blessings.
Πολλά συγχαρητήρια από την μικρή Ελλάδα !!! ✨💜 Τα αγγλικά μου , δεν είναι πολύ καλά και αυτός είναι ο λόγος που γράφω στα Ελληνικά . Υπέροχο θέμα και ο τρόπος που το αναλύεται ! ... βάζω μετάφραση για το κατανοήσω όσο καλύτερα γίνεται 🙂 Επιτέλους μια πολύ ωραία ανάλυση , για τα Πλουτώνια ωροσκόπια και σχέσεις .. και από προσωπικές εμπειρίες ... Ευχαριστούμε πολύ , να είστε πάντα καλά ! ✨🌹
😳 WOW! I don't want to believe this, but the pieces of the puzzle just fell into place about my 10 year relationship (7 years of it married).... The stress, anxiety, emotional, verbal etc... has affected me physically.... Completely destroyed, but he will not leave. Why won't he leave? ... Your advice is greatly appreciated!
This is exactly what I need to hear. Please keep making this type of video. For me it's always about the energy that the planets bring us. Plus the people who come into our lives to teach us lessons. Thank you so much MJ!
Wow this was the best ever . As I am 60 now learned a lot especially all the descriptions you reminded me of in my past relationships . That was incredible thanks for sharing.
I gasped when you were talking about Pluto squaring the ascendant it is so true this is such an excellent video thank you so much for sharing this info ❤
I appreciate your videos and insight .. that being said, as the Pluto person in a Pluto square Venus situation... I am not now nor have ever been controlling. I think it's because high trust and keeping my respect and my partners respect is so important to me. I would love and maybe feel obsessed with her (which i enjoy!).. but control? Nope.
👏 integrity.
Again, M.J., this was super helpful! Can't wait for the next ones, especially about conjunctions and oppositions. 💖♎♉♓
Me too!!! Can’t wait :)
This was so helpful for me to understand what’s just happened to me and why. Thank you
Everything is SO intensely profound lately (nearly at EVERY turn) that I 'almost' can't handle the fast & furious flood! What does it mean to me now to NOT have to handle it alone or without your direction?? WHEW!
God bless you, Mary Jo
He’s my neighbor we have exact squares. His Pluto squares my moon and mars. I knew something was up when I first saw him. Married. I’m so happy I’m aware or boy would I be hurt right now. Thank you for Thai video. 🙏🏼
I broke up with a leo a few weeks ago ... its the third time we got back together, 6 months 3 months, 3 months with a year seperated.. I thought maybe i self sabotaged and was bringing insecurities to the relationship so met up again.... i could tell pretty quickly that nothing had changed and i felt no love from him what so ever, only rejection and sense of feeling unworthy and so drained demanding my time all day every day... no respect for my bounderies ... i am healing ongoing and always look at my lessons. Great video, thank you 💙
O my gosh MJ you really nailed it with this video. 100% on the money. Thank you for the guidance. You've help me for a few years now and I'm so grateful for all you do. 🙏♥️👁️
I love how absolutely accurate you are with defining and interpreting energies! Your wisdom is so empowering, thank you very kindly for the guidance 💞
Remember it is ALSO possible that BOTH parties are the Plutonian energy. A Double Whammy so then the subconscious interplay then goes both ways between the two parties; which is even more complex but “balanced” at the same time. Also, when one or both parties are already Plutonic in their own Natal “DNA” the interplay is less traumatic and bearable because it’s naturally felt already for this person. Lastly, the parties Personal level of self-awareness plays a big part too in how well they’ll handle the interplay. As difficult as these aspects can be they do have a higher divine Spiritual purpose. EVERYTHING happens for a reason and are not to always be demonized. All things work together in this Universe for our Ultimate good. Having a spiritual practice in place is extremely important in these connections, and in general, aside from a Plutonian connection🙏🏾
That was really enlightening Mary Jo! I am learning so much from u! God bless you! Prayers for the puppies too as well as you! ❤❤❤
Literally experiencing this right now. Finally ended it no resentment just love and light. Had to go do a synestry reading to make sure I was right and just as you said. The chart shows why I'm feeling what I'm feeling. Love him to pieces but I can't stay.
Spot on! Me aries, plutonic person Scorpio... Saw the manipulation after research and got out..
Those Scorpio placements....masters of transformation
OMG MJ... I just got out of a 10 years in and out of THAT. I have been healing and understanding and integrating the lessons for the past year and a half and recently, finally released him with love , light and gratitude for the hard lessons learned. At last... moving on.😊 Thank you so much. Onwards and upwards! 💫🌅🌟
Wow! Very informative. Ty! Thanks for breaking this topic down for us. It’s so layered!! 🙏🏻
I've been looking at that chart for days .... love its information
I know this story too well 😪 He always wanted to change my mind & beliefs, always said I was Crazy when I spoke my mind or feelings. After 7 years of off & on I have been staying away from him for two years But I saw him today sneaking around where I live . This Gemini has Mars in Leo. Mr. Aquarius needs to give it up & go away , Back to his drugs , lying & non commital ways . Luv you MJ 💓
Much Gratitude 💛 💫 💛
I'm so thankful I felt the need to look at your channel. Some divine intervention saw to it so I could survive myself. I just filed for divorce and letting go of this man has been a very hard thing to do. I have completely lost myself in our 30 some year marriage. And finally I found the reasons. I always knew we were destine but I couldn't find the answers to why it went the way it did. Also I couldn't understand why he was the way he was with me. Your 100% correct ours was a very dangerous, dark, and toxic bond. I thank you for setting me free with the answers I'll never get from him. You literally saved my life. Thank you again.
Loved this video MJ!! I wished I had this information 13 years ago. It would have saved me a lot of heartbreak but I'm glad I broke free of thinking this was my twin flame. I have been much happier since I come to realize that it was a karmic relationship.
OMG! All this time I was thinking we were Soulmates! You described everything I am going through in a Plutonic relationship!
Appreciate the in depth information provided in this video and looking forward to future videos explaining the other aspects, particularly positive ones. Currently experiencing transformative change and growth with someone who has Sun Trine my Pluto within 1 degree. So far, the changes have been welcomed but wonder if that might flip.
At least you know the difference and aren’t discrediting one or the other. I hate when people do that lol. Thanks.
Thank you so much 🙏🙏🙏💗💗💗
This was so awesome! Great info! And oh crap my Pluto squares my Saturn. Explains so much! Thank you!
Just oozing with information that piques my curiosity. Truly thank you 💫
Excellent!!! Imho this is The best video of yours I've seen yet, out of 100s, and The best on this topic in all of TH-cam. Thanks so much!
Trauma bonding in a narcissistic relationship
That's exactly the umbrella-term that nails it, boils it all down.
Thank you Mary Jo. This message has given me much to think about.
You are literally talking to me.. This is insane to hear you speak these words after what I just went through tonight..
She is my mother, she is an Aries, she has NPD, and borderline personality disorder and I am temporary living with her until I get back on my feet. I am an empath trying to heal codependency, I am a Cancer we are completely opposite people. I can do this, I can get through this. Thank you
Thank you so, so much for this incredibly informative video. You're such a gift to us all, especially for shining the light on plutonic vs TF, so we can all save ourselves time, energy & sanity!
I can't wait for the opposition explanations 🙏. Ironically enough I had a pluto ⬛️ moon relationship & its also in my chart 🤯, both tight orbs, but without this video I would never have been able to pick up on why this person taught me these lessons & what I'm doing to myself too! You're an incredibly natural & inspirational teacher, Thank you x
Hi Mary Jo. You are on fire 🔥 & so kind of you to share this. Thank you so much for all your wisdom & kindness xxxx❤️
Thank you very much for this. Understanding this is invaluable to me.
alll…of the things…holy !!!! right ON holy shit thank god it’s over now….totally toxic lost everything important to me chaos harmful codependent and absolutely no boundaries …..devastating …great overview MJ ..,thank you 💖
Wow this was amazing and opened up so much insight and revelations. Love videos like this!
My Scorpio Pluto conjuncts his Scorpio Sun… as challenging as this is, and yes often toxic…there is a lot of unconditional love between us. We likely will not end up together if I can stick to my own boundaries and resist him charming me back with his Sun warmth, I am ready to be done with this. I have had to learn how codependent I am, how to stop seeking external validation from my unavailable lovers to prove my worth when my worth is innate… I NEVER feel chosen and it’s all I want. So by leaving this behind for GOOD, I am finally choosing myself. At times, I feel like HE fits the Pluto person’s description better than me! I’ve matured a lot as a result of this Plutonic connection, but I’ve never been more depressed, lost, lacked self-respect and self-esteem as much as I do when I’m with him. It is soul-wrenching. Grateful for the experience but will be even more grateful to be able to let it go
Fascinating!! Thank you so much, MJ!! Loving these types of sessions!! I am learning so much 🙏🏽❤️🌺
This was one of the times when I was spellbound. Thank you My darling it was way better than I expected. You are of course as beautiful as ever which just adds to the attraction. Thanks again
All my love MG..........
MG
So so helpful! Thank you for everything you do 🙏🏼 ✨
This popped up random and I’m so glad I saw it
This makes me want to join the birth chart class because omg was this like a 💡
I just want to say thankyou God fr saving my life...right inbetwwen your video chat
This is a lot later arrived knowledge
Yet enlightening😇...quit it looooooong ago...
Noone but God has saved me
Thank you, mj. Yes, please do so many more of these educational videos.. this just explained about 33 years of crazy 🤣
MJ you are so helpful and informative. I just have to tell you thank you so much. I admire your knowledge and strength to share these messages with all of us. I have sun and moon Pluto square with my partner and this makes a lot of sense. It’s an intense relationship and it’s making more sense with you explaining and sharing this information. I appreciate you learning so much and taking your time to do so. Thank you beautiful ✨
Can not wait to hear what you learned
Thank you! So insightful 🙏🏼❤️Namaste🤗
Love the longer session, thank you!
There’s a lot of good information here but that it feels like you’re villainizing the Pluto person when the soul contract and destiny is what cause the two to come together. The souls made that agreement.
Incredibly helpful!! Mind blown. Thank you!! 💜🙏🤍
I'm only half way through this but jeez this is absolutely blowing my mind. I've been diving into these older videos as I'm trying to figure out my partnership of 8 years now. All of this makes so much sense. When I first laid eyes on my partner in a coffee shop we both frequented, his energy was so off-putting to me that I said I wouldn't touch him with a 10 foot pole lol. Then one day at the coffee shop we struck up a conversation. I had seen a medium 6 months prior about a relationship I was in that was bad and she told me I would be meeting my current partner at the end of that year (2016). What a ride. We must have had a rough ride in our past life that this one is healing. And it's crazy b/c our relationship never made sense to me nor the pull I have. I've been wondering what the heck is going on all these years. When we have conflict we literally become 2 volatile people that I'm shocked. It's so weird to witness. But they must be the versions of us from the other life we are healing in this one. We are both making that effort but it is definitely Pluto at work. I checked our charts. Also, when the dark night started for me, we stopped having sexual intimacy. That was 2018. Thank you for making these videos MJ. I wish I found them earlier. But I guess this is the right timing. xx
Both have Pluto in libra but also it’s his rising . It’s been a very enlightening bond (on a painfully awakening level)
Such a great message. I learned so much♥️ Thank you
This is going to take a lot for me to figure out and I may need help
Wow! Thank you so much for these videos!!! Definitely checking Pluto out in my chart. This would definitely help me to understand what I recently went through and to be aware!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you 🙏 😊
Starting to learn this. I have Pluto in my 4th house.
Love listening to you Thankyou so much.
You said in a recent video that we needed a spiritual teacher or guide....this video is the hard lesson I needed to hear, you are my guide! Thank you!!!
Two relationships both their Pluto squared my mercury and one I'm still in contemplating ending it. Let me couple that with he also is Pluto squared my venus.
You explained in words exactly how I feel....in both mercury and venus. So much so it brought tears to my eyes. Wow...it all resonated and is very hard to hear. Thank you again MJ 💓
Thank you for these videos that you break down ooohhhh so well!!! They are very helpful to me, my growth and understanding. Thank you so much bless you to infinity and beyond!😇🥰😍
What's confusing and wrong, is that I could be with one person and my fortunes double. On another day, with that same person, everything gets drained. Odds are stacked.
These are so helpful MJ! Can't wait for more!
Both our Pluto's square and trine each other's Venus' 🙄 and my Ascendant squares both their sun and moon at 0 & 1 degrees. Crazy to see these things on paper after decades of feeling them! Thank you, thank you, thank you! 🙏🤍
Omg MJ exactly what I am going through now
Sure enough your right! Love to have my chat read back in 2005. These people can have a entity of murder connected to them! I got out alive! Devil was trying to take me out! God guided me out safely! 🎉
🙌🙏😇 Thank you MJ!❤️
Wonderful class, loved it thank you 😊
Thanks for this teaching. I have some of these difficult aspects with my mother, who I finally went no contact with 2 years ago, in my mid forties. Her Pluto is conjunct my Venus retrograde in Leo ( 7th house) which makes it square my Moon conjunct NN in Scorpio (10th) and square my SN in Taurus in the 4th. We do have some other hard aspects as well.
wow thank you
My Pluto is 0.14 degrees in Libra and this blew my mind. He is unconscious and unaware.
I was in your class on Tuesday for the birth charts which I loved , than you! I did a chart for me and my husband right after the class and was trying to decipher it , feeling I am not understanding what these differences and thought I wish M.J. would have a class to teach this, and here you are so beautifully answering that thought with this very wonderful very helpful insightful video.
Thank you for opening the door for me in so many way ushering me onto the train ! Your light and wisdom is very much needed and appreciated in this world by so many. Thank you .
Ease, joy and love always, in all ways possible.
Be well. ☀️🌈
I also got Pygmalion as well as Barbie & the Stepford Wives!
Wowww I just hopped on and it’s resonating
I missed it again. I have new member in our house. She is such a joy. Her name is Luna. She is kinda rescue dog. She is a Tea cup Poodle. Spent half a day at a veteran. Will try again to join Q and A.
When are you doing the reading about destructive Twin flames?
It’s hard to find ANYTHING , but it’s a real issue.