The REAL Reason Pixel Gun 3D Weapons Are Unbalanced!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
- Let's dive into the core problem with Pixel Gun 3D balance changes and why they do not work!
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In this video, I share with you the biggest issue surrounding Pixel Gun 3D weapons - balance changes. Why they don't work, why it won't change and how they can fix it! - เกม
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Well said Ecko but I think the devs may not perceive your tone in the right way. Everything you say is right but the pg3d devs in particular wont listen if they think they are being told off, when we have every right 2
Just give up bro the devs aint fixing shi, 😹, community's been saying all this for the past years and aint nothing happen.
Hey ecko since the intergalactic treasurer was nerfed, use Purifying Shotgun. It doesn’t bonus points and bleeding!
The developers don’t need permission to use a grass landscape or a colorless stretched window logo. They are basically changing the bare minimum so that it doesn’t apply to microsoft’s copyright conditions.
Well they are kind of avoid it because they aren’t using their name
They should get so damn many dmcas for stuff they took from others
It’s the same stuff: a new op weapon, usually paid, after a few months it gets nerfed giving me no sense of achievement I feel nothing I don’t get exited and memories from the grind I did for a specific weapon
While I do agree the bloody terror axes damage is very op damage wise, but it’s pretty satisfying being able to watch that swing really fast
That's what I'm trying to dispute, the non stop boring cycle we have had for a very long time.
I agree with you on the Axe, it is sooo much fun to use. I think they just needed to slow the attack down.
@@PIXELECKOI would give 1 op weapon every 2 seasons and give epic and rare weapon like they were like “oh yeah they want an epic weapon let’s give them that but we won’t give it passion.” During the AI reign season
@PIXELECKO the game fell off some years ago but we still play it for the nostalgia or for the grind on new weapons.
The only thing I wanted is the game balanced While I'm a f2p who doesn't complain about pay2win.
I also wanted the pets to be buffed to get more value out of them, I have the chicken level exactly 65.
Thank you so much for talking about this
Now it's up to us to act and communicate *without getting angry* with the devs
Also the Ricochet on Intergalactic Treasurer's bullet seems to survive longer bouncing off walls compared to cash Easiest fix for this is ban certain weapons on specific maps for sure.
def ban it on silent school
Secret forces rifle needs a buff
And it needs the old sound back
Devs: ammo decreased 50->30
The dragoneer was a ridiculous nerf 💀I mean what was the problem with the shotgun it was a balanced
I guess people cat spamming it
@@Stuffandstuff11Give it either a manual reload or fixed delay (or both).
It was nerfed? I didn't even know that
@@bensonbank9258me too didn't know they nerfed my favorite shotgun😭😭😭
They baited us because they knew we would try to get this shotgun
I honestly dont think they will ever stop making unbalanced weapons they already did so many unbalanced wepaons that i think they wont stop too soon
True they don’t know keeping the game balanced will keep it alive and money
There's no way the Devs are gonna listen.
Recently, they decided to get to work instead
@@Steven_ngandzami they just fixed the reporting system that's all
@@Alexander_plays.so they are still lazy for the game
The problem isn’t the modules themselves, it’s how they are obtained. It creates a gap between the older and newer players, and if they made modules easier to obtain, it wouldn’t be an issue at all
Very valid point
Im so glad they nerfed these weapons because in ranked mode, the only 4 weapons you would see were deadly icicle, rusted revolver, cash gun, and arctic soul devourer.
How do you unlock that move button I play I’m playing on my Nintendo switch controller and it’s not moving. How tell me your way please
Cancer weapon strategy (even if developers buff or nerf): intergalactic treasurer (the new cash gun).
1. Full set effect (bonus points: mafia set / any others similar but not the same but with slight differences, you must leave melee and special weapon category seperate, like not part of the weapon set, all of the load out weapons must be level 65 and mythical grade, for full power and potential in terms of usage).
2. Damage boost (gadget/tool: turtle shell + max upgrade).
3. Damage boost (pet effect: gingerbread + nearly max upgrade but preferably max upgrade for best performance).
4. Gear equipment upgrades 3 star max for best performance (pumpkin set: hat and mask only, wait till I unlock the full veteran new gear)
5. Gear equipment cape (cape: gifts cape bonus points)
6. Gear equipment boots (boots: magic only the best).
7. Perfect high-level module combo effect (special weapon: land mines only 7-10 levels but I only have 7-8 I think for now)
8. Map choice (layout design is plenty of long corridors and size is short or maybe medium: silent school)
9. Melee (must be easy to use with best effects: preferably no delay and charge time reasonably low but high damage and perfect module combinations and level 65 and mythical grade for peak performance).
10. Any other reasonable and adequate advice let me know, (other than developers and discord and other social media discussions).
Hey Pixel Echo, why can't I buy the pixel pass for pixel pass tickets? I saved up my pixel pass tickets for this new season
Even the paperclip pet. Brings me back to old school days and windows. No technology, just played outside until dusk
Another problem with some of these OP guns is that they allow for either lazy play or unfun situations. The galactic treasurer and cash gun’s ricochet allows them to easily hit players without much effort in tight spaces, and as Ecko rightly said, needs little thought to do. Weakening and barriers, at high percents, mean that the users don’t have to worry too much about taking damage while everyone one else needs to leverage a huge advantage and damage combo to even the odds against something that can be easily applied. Sly wolf in duels (and sometimes team strike) can be awful to play against as it’s completely kills the games pacing as their opponent either has to use a super specific counter or play entirely to how the sly wolf user plays. There’s also pulling towards target weapons, which for some time, have enabled many terrifying close range weapons by allowing their users to get into close ranges in less then a second, completely ruining the whole idea of ‘stay far away to avoid spooky close range weapons’.
Even mechanically within the game, players in team fight are incentivised to self destruct over being killed just deny the enemy team a point, which feels really bad when you’re about to off someone only to be given nothing because the guy you’re aiming at off them selves and now have full health, ammo and a few seconds of invulnerbility
Pixel gun constantly fail to recognise why thing are strong or weak, fail to act upon it and fail to justify why any changes they’ve made were done.
Meanwhile things like Warhammer 40,000k, a ridiculously expensive and complex game will readily rework and rewrite rules, most of the time targeting un fun situation and also leave a designer commentary. On the other hand is Ninja kiwi with the bloons tower defence game where they’ll also leave commentary and reasoning behind every balance change and will also do genuinely creative changes from time to time.
12:58 you have a big mustache
Also agree with all of his points in the video. Modules being removed would make this game so much more enjoyable
*Yo has anyone else noticed that like the aim assist with Deadly icicle just completely falls off unlike when I use ultimatum? Like I just got these guns (don't worry about how I just got deadly ice) but yeah it's weird so I just stay to ultimatum*
I’ve been stuck with level 7 and one 😊level 8 mod for a couple years it’s kinda hard to get mod they can cost thousands of gems from clans
Can someone tell Microsoft to sue pg3d if they are gonna do something about it?
I mean they aren’t using the name so it kinda counts as a parody or a reference
@@Stuffandstuff11well heres the thing Pixel gun has been sued before in 2013 when Mojang sued piel gun 3d for using their assets and some of those assets still exist in modern pg3d maps too so looks like they barely learned their lesson
@@Just_SmallWolf yeah you know pixel gun never learning their lesson
Broo this was my childhood game , actually sad to see the game just getting ruined by p2w😮💨
I don't think p2w is a major problem
4:51 I swear some of these guns aren’t even pixelated, it’s called “Pixel Gun 3D,” there is not a pixel in sight on this weapon
This game might now be called polygon gun 3d
Long gone are those days
My game is stuck loading at 78% why cant i play?
assuming that the ricochet depends on how far the bullet travells not how much it bounces. it would be better if a bullet can only ricochet 3 times off a wall before the bullet disappears. They could also add a damage decrease upon bouncing off a wall (like wall break) by like 5% and a decrease on how far the bullet can travel. for the rusted revolver, the barrier definetly needs a nerf. i feel like it should be able to soak up only one head shot and one body shot from a legendary graded sniper. in terms of damage it should be a four shot kill because 2 body shot plus head shot should be a 3 shot kill (head enlargement)
I agree on this also some ricochet weapons have a increase when bouncing but no complains on those because it disappears very fast
And this is the ultimate reason why i haven't been playing/enjoying pg3d
Jo man I had a question I have 3 great legendary snipers 1 superstore rifle 2 antivirus 3 laser ray rifle I just don’t know Wich is best and wich gun I should upgrade btw great video keep it up
At this point the devs removed every bit of nostalgia there was. people say old pixelgun is better because we didnt have this mess. its honestly sad to see
I love how the money hungry devs are just making cheatlng a cheaper, more reliant and simply better experience/option than actually playing this game f2p or paying for everything. Both sucks in comparison😂
This is what I mean...Instead of pushing the players away from cheating currency they're doing the exact opposite.
Btw I do not care if you're modding the game for currency. I think it's justified.
They want to promote the ultimatum in the next lottery so people buy keys, so the devs make more money. I only have the dragoneer for my shotgun weapon, what a way to ruin the experience.
Hey Ecko.
I have a question
Why isn't there a lucky board on pc and is there a way to get one bc i'm horrible at mobile but I think getting more rewards would be nice.
Because you have to watch ads, it’s against steans TOS to watch in game ads on their platform
@@PIXELECKO Alright
Thankyou for the clarification
I think it should remove the bonus point if remove the ricochet will basiclly burried the weapons
Arctic Soul Devourer actually can't one shot anymore which is very neat, but it's still so utterly unbalanced because of how it's just a Supernova Generator with weakening and it's on the heavy section
The developers really need to work on balancing the weapon’s attributes and do something about the modules so the weapons are more balanced. Keep up the amazing content! Hope you are having a great day! Take care.
they need to
:stop adding new weapons,
:remove weapons and
:remove modes
sad to see this game like this
yeah, wave pulser is so annoying, I can't even win if I'm not using it to combo onto Plastic Carabin and Pixel Cola Refresher, please Pixel Gun let me swap back to Vertical Grip, I loved it
about modules : they made my backup useless because I'm unlucky and only have 2 low level modules
Melee killing those players is awesome
Why cant I buy pixel pass with pixel pass tickets?
Funny how everyone uses the icicle rusted and artic and champion set and they all got nerfed but I think everyone is still gonna be using them I 3 cat it’s boring with same loadout or find a new meta 🤔
Hey ecko what is that one gun on the right side of virus spreader called
Virus spreader is the op boomerang heavy right? If so then kitty cuttie
Update the app. Check if u have enough memory
I honestly think at 9:50 it's more of Ricochet mixed with the area damage that's annoying to people rather than bonus kill points
I feel like the devs nerf stuff just to have a big balance changes list, not really to make the game better but to look like their doing something cause they CLEARLY dont know whats going on.
Yeah but unless they halt their production of the new content it won’t ever work
@@PIXELECKO4 mins ago
I think the easiest nerf on intergalactic treasurer would be to deacrease the amount of time the bullets can bounce
This game came to a point where it's so chaotic because of this reason, like he said before, there's over 1000 weapons and we only use 50-100 of them because they are meta. They should introduced rare and epic weapons. I can tell you that there's more mythical weapons in the game than all of the other rarities.
im about 75% sure the cash gun got a small shadow buff. i swear it wasnt a 2-3 shot kill before this update. and no i didnt upgrade my modules. it was 3-4 shot with lvl 8 then after this update it was 2-3. now i have lvl 9 but still. i swear it was buffed
I think the problem with ricochet is on fast fire weapons with moderate to good dps. Like look guns like cash gun and intergalactic Treasurer they have good fire rate like other gun that were nerfed like sock bomber before it was nerfed it was the most annoying thing on silent school and toy and adamant bomber will still pop of on small maps. But look at low fire rate ricochet weapons like project marlin and 10th anniversary alien blaster they are fine cause the time you fire the next shot the previous one would have already subsided. In my mind the extra points is like a cherry on top. That being said a very liberal cherry but it doesn’t matter as we have items that buff points on kill the Christmas cape basically doubling points on kill.
They nerfed the dragoneer but not the ultimatum, at least give the dragoneer input and output delay and give it the same damage as ultimatum...
just put the fries in the bag lil bro 😂😂
GARGAMEL REAL
The problem is not ricochet and bonus kill points it is the firerate ricochet and the damage plus the projectiles (thats why ricochet is mostly on laser and not projectile weapons), and the projectiles bounce very far. Imagen a laser bouncer with high firerate and it bounces of walls more it would also be op the only thing that would make the laser bouncer less op is (if it had the same stats as cash gun or intergalactic treasurer) is the laser effect
Day 3 of asking ecko to play with old removed guns
Dang, it’s like they’re fighting Pixonic over who can be worse game devs. But my problem with the funny treasure gun is the headshot ability. Too broken, but it’s still fun to use.
Pixonic at least makes the game more f2p by give free rewards and not nerfing the ads
Nobble porcelain is still open
Ecko, you are so right about the modules. It makes the gameplay so unreliable, because of the way they work. If you have no protection you are screwed, but if you do, you can just overpower players and not care about moving through a sea of bullets.
I think if they really wanna fix this they need to make them more reliable, maybe have all module defenses provide a percentage of "general defence" and a increase in defence when the module types match (between defender and attacker)
No matter what you nerf on the weapon , if you put high level modules is gonna be good lmao
Hey Echo I think they should make fire rate 65 in Intergalactic Treasurer & Cash Gun it could be much better by my opinion
Devs will never learn its like a Bully from school
Damage Modules need to be nerfed!
That would be a good start for sure.
49% > 30%
I still loves your vids. But Since I’m in the ranked tournament for playing so hard and did me to finished matches for goods.😎😅❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
nice minecraft gaming chair!
if they gonna remove the ricochet they better give me gems because i grind the event every day and its painful and i was excited because the elite task is gonna be easy. i use the intergalactic treasurer right
I just got an add of you playing pixel gun wow🤣
Ecko please do something about the cash gun that it doesnt get nerved but is still overpowered
He can't, the devs just don't listen
Of course the devs nerf Dragoneer and Deadly Icing but not the god dam purple shotgun called ultimatum
How about devs start small and nerf the disable jumps from the wave pulser. It's so annoying.
Why does it sound like minecraft story mode music 😂
Bruh i just came back from a break off 4 monts and i SEE this like pg3d like You are ganna kill this Game in months if You don't do nothing to stop like yeah your ganna lose Money but from losing a Lot in 6 months bc ngl im giving this Game like till the end of the year to be dead just balance good for one god damm time like pls
What I find funny about these is how the community ignores attributes as a problem and instead beg for the typical damage nerfs. Maps like Silent School is not gonna help out lol, that map makes a lot of bad weapons good mainly as a result of a close corridor and how good ricochet is in the close corridor. Intergalatic was a real good example showing how easy it is for the general community to overlook other factors that isnt just damage which is a shame
No one begs for damage nerfs, if you read the community feedback on discord they explain how to fix it. But the developers solution is to fix “damage”
the funny thing is that they nerfed the pistol's capacity but theres a literal module that increases it, SMH
Theirs also a glitch in pg3d to dash 200% faster. Seen a video of it, they charge the weapon once, dash, then spam the quit, or resume menu tab in and out. You keep dashing on and on, and on.
Oh dear
maybe an idea could be rather than to disable entire weapons on certain maps and modes, maybe just disable certain attributes.
you can still use the weapon on said map or mode, but the specific attribute will be disabled and will not work
richochet should be disabled on small maps.
gravitation force and sticky mines should be disabled on flag capture. those attributes make flag capture unplayable. the amount of times someone has spammed arctic soul devourer or supernova generator on flag capture and i have been able to do absolutely nothing is ridiculous.
i'm just disturbed that the Automatic Peacemaker went from 500 shots at max all the way down to 200 shots >:O
yeah devs just be ruining all the childhood weapons😔😔
Ecko theres new sets ! Pls tell dev that the gem praices go back to 100 gems pls
i'm so glad someone FINALLY realized that modules are a problem.
I swear, whenever i see a wp/arctic soul devourer user, i always get 1 shotted even i have inflatable armor on, but still nothing, it's so stupid tho😵💫
I don’t necessarily agree barrier and Weakening are inheritantly broken by themselves, but it becomes a problem in high amounts or combinations. Nobody complains about Eco Rifle’s barrier. TACTICAL SCORCHER has weakening and is considered underpowered. Rusted Revolver is dangerous because of the FIFTY percent barrier. I don’t think weakening by itself is the problem. I want to go back to the Deadly Icicle.
High damage, high fire rate, and weakening.
I wholeheartedly agree with you things combined together are deadly. Deadly Icicle was one example.
All barrier weapons should have under 25% exception is reload barrier you are sacrificing good barrier for not shooting and leaving yourself vulnerable
@@Stuffandstuff11 I wholeheartedly agree.
this game has gone crazy.. only 20-ish of the same op weapons are used and even if the devs fix the economy and balance all the guns.. the game has nothing new going on with it. Its just the same classic modes from years ago. They gotta start implementing new modes
ok why tf was bloody terror axe nerfed it literally wasnt the most op weapon
Idk prob some intern was spamming it and he got fired for using it
It’s sad to see my favourite game like this it has such good ideas, maps, and gun designs Ecko keep strong please
Modules are not the problem and if pixel gun didn't have modules it would just be a fp block shooter. X mods are hard to get because you need to play alot and a long time to get them
should I buy blood mercenary or devil's lament
I only have 970 gems....
@@user-ub2pw8gx9g devils lament in lottery it very cool and good
Mercenary, lament isn’t available rn tomorrow is when it’s released and it’s only available with keys unless a gem fair comes again
Dragoneer, despite its no delay, was extremely well balanced for a first introduced weapon. If they really want to balance these shotguns they should just revert the shotgun change.
(Which made no sense in my opinion)
A fix for modules is make it so that they are only used for raids...
GGs to ecko he keeps finding the devs cheat code for money💀
The first weapon must not penetrate walls or be weakened
And yet, event horizon hasn't been nerfed
13:45 exactly they should do that remove from specific maps. This why i don't play flag capture and point capture because some players using pulling towards weapons on this two game mode. I think devs should remove some gadgets from some gamemodes for example: Astral wand and time machine from flag capture. This is just sad😢
If tresurer wouldn't have bouncy bullets then jsust remove it and give 500 gems in return as it would be boring gun with no real point of existing. Just remove the bonus points. Also why there is no balance changes on discord?
I feel that the current issues of PG3D all stem from the fact the game refuses to move on from the 2018 mindset of multiple games of the time, loot boxes, paid and free currency, the way you obtain weapons, the fact guns get weaker as you progress, and the overall flow of the game is very dated and is very discouraging for newer players, not to mention it makes PG3D a breeding ground a perfect game for people to become competitive and to find ways to always win, the game needs to change how you obtain guns and how to make your guns stronger
Modules, especially the damage modules, need either a whole rework so that weapons don’t rely on them so much, or completely remove them from the game and to buff the overall stats of movement and damage of every weapon
By removing modules, it becomes way easier to balance out guns and it would be a benefit for newer players who don’t have very good modules, as well as solo players who don’t want to be in a clan, as there’s not a lot of ways for solo players to obtain modules (module chests should had never been removed)
I also feel the way you obtain guns needs to be changed, instead of leveling up, grinding for currency and having to constantly upgrade guns, instead you should just be able to unlock guns as soon as you level up, a removal of the Roulette and Lottery system and the parts system should also be considered, as I feel it’s why the armory feels so empty as the developers keep removing guns from the armory and turning them into part guns
If the devs decide to switch over to where you can unlock every gun for free via paying coins or unlocking them by leveling up, I think it would also be a good idea to add a Prestige system, something similar to what Call of Duty Black Ops 2 did where you can start from the beginning but get rewards for doing so, rewards such as skins, being able to keep 6 weapons, and maybe even making some guns exclusive to this prestige system would encourage people to want to try more guns and to experiment with them
Also players who do well on the losing team should be rewarded more, the points and kills you get should determine how much currency you get, no matter if you’re on the winning or losing team
I wanted to give my thoughts on the changes the game needs, it’s been like this since 2018 as rewards get worse and worse and the grind becomes harder and harder, it seriously needs to change and to adapt to how most mobile fps games work now, where they make most of their money from cosmetics and people who don’t want to grind the game
Bro i still think deadly icicle is the best shotgun just because of the fire rate and weak and the dmg is very good too
I hate how they do all these balance changes and don't show us till like a week or more. All these weapon nerfs pretty much did nothing. The only one I disagree with is the dragoneer nerf. It's one of the competitors to the ulti but they nerf that but not nerf ulti along with it then I would agree
Modules should just be to level 5. Making them go up to 10 is way too much or just get rid of them completely and give us a huge amount of currencies back
What they need to do is not keep releasing "weakening" "disable jumps" "slow down" effects, theres tons of other effects they can use . You legit cannot hop on a map without being jump disabled, slowed down, or weakened. They dont know how to maintain such broken effects. "Rage" and "sniper mode in scope" is what they should focus on, its Impossible to play without getting weakened man its just insane.
Yeah where are my favourites attributes like armor bonus which doesn’t work and inframed imager
I feel like pixel gun just makes these weapons so op on purpose and it ruins the game
They made armor like a joke. What's the point of armor when almost every weapon one tapped you? Especially the shotgun starting with the letter 'U'.
Wait how is he getting 38 points for for each kill and I only get 19 when using intergalactic treasurer.
@@REL10000 because he was using the cape of gifts, which it grants you 30 extra points in your kills and is really useful in deathmatch to complete the deathmatch points missions and makes you win in deathmatch mode way easier.
@@REL10000 it was only available during the 2023 Christmas season
Myth alien sniper rifle < legendary party rifle
Well i can't laugh anymore....
Hey ecko the deadly icicle is somehow still better than ultimatum I don't know how and also the ultimatum will never get nerded its for the money they want too much money they don't know that if they want more money they need to become like brawl stars instead there free to play and they getting more money than pixel gun and more than the two other p2w supercell games
What, dragoneer was nerfed? WTF
In my opinion the devs shouldn't nerf that much most op weapons, but make a rework and buff other loved weapons or weapons that are very accesible, because if there are like 20 of the 1000 weapons in pg3d that are used, why not make automatics strong or make certain snipers that have fixed delay better
That's what I think honestly
I dont like damage increasing modules. I think they should be replaced with other special modules. I have suggested this before and I sitll think the same way
Also I tested treasurer for almost a whole match in silent school. Didnt get a single kill, even with lvl 7 modules. The fire rate nerf was kind of massive, but necessary
Devs make new and op weapon that costs money.
People buy it to win more.
Community complains about how op it is.
Devs finally nerf it.
Still op
Devs nerf it into the ground so it doesn’t get used anymore
Devs introduce a new an op weapon that costs money
It’s like Cubic is in a constant state of debt so they need that kid money over and over again
Weakening shouldn't exist as an attribute, period.
You said that you would attempt to fix the game by just NOT making videos about it since your like.. the BIGGEST alive Pg3D channel at the moment, just make this the last video since it’s about the guns being broken and just wait for them to actually fix it until you feel like it’s safe to come back 👁️
Don’t put words into my mouth to fit your agenda, I said I would make videos exposing the issues and how to fix them before I move on.
That’s exactly what I’ve been doing 👍
Is party sniper rifle till op