yes yes yes this is the type of content the wow space is missing 95% of m+ commentary is people that timed one +13 key reading the wowhead guides without any real input other than the most obvious things. i play alot of alts this season and i rly want more of these deep dives to get the last % out of them im still missing
@@AutomaticJakcould you make a guide on how to do high keys as HPriest? We all know HPriest is terrible right now but i really wanna try and get out of the 13 range and dont wanna go disc.
@@AutomaticJakas someone returning from Shadowlands Season 1, healing feels very…. obtuse? On Disc It doesn’t really feel like I am healing, just that I’m there. It also seems to be that healing is just trial and error on disc, as it’s so dependent on its CD’s instead of traditional throughput or burst. These dungeon guides are fantastic for me, but would you be able to maybe go in depth on how you approach each/some pulls in a pug environment? My biggest struggle is pulling, the tank drops to nothing, and it seems to take forever to ramp up heals, especially on longer pulls
I struggle a bit as disc here in 12+ keys in certain areas and this was super helpful. I feel confident I’ll handle the corruptors and last boss a bit better now
Impressive. Ive come back to the game after 12 years, playing holy pally so this is my first sesson. Its crazy to see the difference from the 6-8keys ive been playing compared to this. I see what seems like substantially more damage in my pug groups. Lots of good tips here though. Id roll a priest if i had time for an alt since hpal seems somewhat weak in comparison.
Hello! thanks for nice video, very detailed! Could yo plase name the addon or WA with detailed time tracker for M+ in the right top corner of your screen. I did check your UI post on the website, but probably missed this one. WOuld be sooo much grateful. Good luck in higher keys!
I have start watching your videos after i had to reroll from Holy to Disc. My main problem is the timing and outputs are not nearly as high as in Holy, but now i atleast have some meaningful AOE heals. I hope Blizzard does some Holy rework soon as it matches my playstyle alot better.
I just healed a +3 Grim Batol with a bear tank with 25% ironfur uptime and 2 uses of Barkskin through the first 2 bosses. He died 9 times and we never finished it and blamed me for not healing him when he gets 3 shot in every trash pack.
I healed a pug like this, +4 person had obviously never played guardian before. I /w him and politely asked him to use frenzied regen, my friend and I ended up coaching him through the key and he was very grateful, but my god people, please do some hcs or follower dungeons before keys 😅
I switched over to totemic resto shammy I’m having a lot of fun. Is there a ceiling of M+ I’ll probably find that I can’t heal through? Or is it mainly team comp and (my) skill level? Love the videos man.
I got to 2k with totemic resto and i can asure you you can heal everything. You can switch totems and talents between dungeons to have tools for everything, I repeat, everything
I'm just over 2,500 totemic shaman, and I haven't hit a ceiling yet. I would say the ceiling is primarily the skill level of the whole group. People can easily get one shot by standing in bad, so you can't out heal that. Players also need to use defensive abilities at the right time etc.
3200 resto shaman checking in, you're pretty set up until 16s for the most part but 17+ become largely a dps and party survival issue without pi/pain sup unless you're running a very self sufficient and synergistic comp
Great video, I actually switched from disc to holy because I enjoy the playstyle more. I'd accept any tips for healing those higher keys, I'm 2500 io right now and I'm struggling with those high +11 +12 keys. I'd imagine voice communication is really important for mitigations.
People just dont know when to use personals, the difference healing a grp of people that use their personals on heavy incoming damage or any kind of DoTs.
That's what I want to do in M+ thinking of Dungeons, like I would a boss encounter. Planing out CDs, trash pulls, getting my teeth into oerfect execution of a plan... But nooooooo I sit on 8 ++11s and I can't get a group together that manages to do a 12...
Hey Jack, whats the name of the PI / Ascendance weak aura? Was searching for something like that but couldn’t find anything. Thank you for the great videos, keep it up 😎
I think it's a pretty simple concept, for any sport/hobby/competitive activity, there will always be people who get the most enjoyment out of pushing the limits of their skill as far as possible. That's kind of the point of infinitely scaling content.
I’m having a blast rn as a healer. Find 4 friends to play with bro it’s sooooo much better than pugging. I’m seeing everyone online dooming about how mythic plus is dying and I’m out here playing it more than ever with my guild lol
@@Huntamin77 beautiful dude, i loved pugging and they destroyed it, fck em for not being able to read their own data. Glad this dumb asses develop only games, imagine they would develop vehicle software...
@@Huntamin77 Agree with you, my grp broke up few weeks ago and im back to pugging :( But we had so much fun, enough 1 of them takes a break and the group goes on a break till s2. Sad af.
I have not watched a video, but let me guess, the healer was disc priest? Nope, not interested. I'd be much more interested to see how a holy priest does +15 or even +14 than this meta slavery fest.
Congrats man, great video!
Thanks big dawg!
yes yes yes this is the type of content the wow space is missing
95% of m+ commentary is people that timed one +13 key reading the wowhead guides without any real input other than the most obvious things.
i play alot of alts this season and i rly want more of these deep dives to get the last % out of them im still missing
You bet! My biggest focus is talking about the overall healing perspective so if there’s anything I can add that helps ALL healers lemme know!
@@AutomaticJakcould you make a guide on how to do high keys as HPriest? We all know HPriest is terrible right now but i really wanna try and get out of the 13 range and dont wanna go disc.
@@radicuris Bro I want to break in to 12s as holy and even that feels impossible, let alone 13s!
It would be awesome if you'd do a commentary like this for every dungeon. It really helps a lot. ❤
more planned!
yes, please 😃
@@AutomaticJakas someone returning from Shadowlands Season 1, healing feels very…. obtuse? On Disc It doesn’t really feel like I am healing, just that I’m there.
It also seems to be that healing is just trial and error on disc, as it’s so dependent on its CD’s instead of traditional throughput or burst.
These dungeon guides are fantastic for me, but would you be able to maybe go in depth on how you approach each/some pulls in a pug environment?
My biggest struggle is pulling, the tank drops to nothing, and it seems to take forever to ramp up heals, especially on longer pulls
@@AutomaticJakcan’t wait for the disc priest commentary videos like this!
my biggest takeaway is that Enhance shaman is so broken is mindboggling.
I struggle a bit as disc here in 12+ keys in certain areas and this was super helpful. I feel confident I’ll handle the corruptors and last boss a bit better now
That’s awesome, glad it helped
Impressive. Ive come back to the game after 12 years, playing holy pally so this is my first sesson. Its crazy to see the difference from the 6-8keys ive been playing compared to this. I see what seems like substantially more damage in my pug groups. Lots of good tips here though. Id roll a priest if i had time for an alt since hpal seems somewhat weak in comparison.
Can you share the cancelaura? I can't find it in the description
YA! Good call
/cancelaura Entropic Rift
ggs on the +17!
Thanks!
Hello! thanks for nice video, very detailed!
Could yo plase name the addon or WA with detailed time tracker for M+ in the right top corner of your screen. I did check your UI post on the website, but probably missed this one. WOuld be sooo much grateful.
Good luck in higher keys!
Hey man is that weakaura that shows you to pi someone when they pop ascendance,feral spirits if yes could u give us the WA?
I have start watching your videos after i had to reroll from Holy to Disc.
My main problem is the timing and outputs are not nearly as high as in Holy, but now i atleast have some meaningful AOE heals. I hope Blizzard does some Holy rework soon as it matches my playstyle alot better.
I just healed a +3 Grim Batol with a bear tank with 25% ironfur uptime and 2 uses of Barkskin through the first 2 bosses. He died 9 times and we never finished it and blamed me for not healing him when he gets 3 shot in every trash pack.
your pfp would be my face if that happened to me
Sounds like average sub 10 key shenanigans
8s and below are harder than 12s
I healed a pug like this, +4 person had obviously never played guardian before. I /w him and politely asked him to use frenzied regen, my friend and I ended up coaching him through the key and he was very grateful, but my god people, please do some hcs or follower dungeons before keys 😅
As a Holy Paladin, I'm jealous of your mass dispell and decurse in Grim Batol
Mass dispell for what? Priests dont have decurse
Normally Priests don't spec into mass dispel in higher keys, and they don't have a decurse
I switched over to totemic resto shammy I’m having a lot of fun. Is there a ceiling of M+ I’ll probably find that I can’t heal through? Or is it mainly team comp and (my) skill level? Love the videos man.
I got to 2k with totemic resto and i can asure you you can heal everything. You can switch totems and talents between dungeons to have tools for everything, I repeat, everything
I'm just over 2,500 totemic shaman, and I haven't hit a ceiling yet. I would say the ceiling is primarily the skill level of the whole group. People can easily get one shot by standing in bad, so you can't out heal that. Players also need to use defensive abilities at the right time etc.
@@HamsterLiterariolmfao 2k isn’t even timed 10s how would you know if they can heal 12+
3200 resto shaman checking in, you're pretty set up until 16s for the most part but 17+ become largely a dps and party survival issue without pi/pain sup unless you're running a very self sufficient and synergistic comp
@@brucewayne4172 above guy's comment probed me right :)
oh hey i saw you outside GB, guess this is what you were doing xD
Great video, I actually switched from disc to holy because I enjoy the playstyle more. I'd accept any tips for healing those higher keys, I'm 2500 io right now and I'm struggling with those high +11 +12 keys. I'd imagine voice communication is really important for mitigations.
You don't need any voice comms until 15s I'd say as a pug healer myself
@caroqt you don't but it makes it easier
People just dont know when to use personals, the difference healing a grp of people that use their personals on heavy incoming damage or any kind of DoTs.
That's what I want to do in M+ thinking of Dungeons, like I would a boss encounter. Planing out CDs, trash pulls, getting my teeth into oerfect execution of a plan...
But nooooooo I sit on 8 ++11s and I can't get a group together that manages to do a 12...
Hey Jack, whats the name of the PI / Ascendance weak aura? Was searching for something like that but couldn’t find anything. Thank you for the great videos, keep it up 😎
its a weakaura from the looks of it
@ its what I said, no? 🙃
wago.io/f5SA1p-ye
gg on the 17!
thanks!
now do it on holy
"had competent teammates"
All this to get the same rewards as a +10 👌 great design blizzard
Now do Stonevault please :)
Will do 👀
I look at WCL and think enh is strong--- watch key with Greg and realize they need to apply at least a 15% aura nerf to strictly HIS shaman lol.
so true lol
Y’all got some
Horrendous RNG on the first boss. I don’t think I saw a middle safe space the whole fight. 🙃
Yeah that first boss was just disgusting
disc gang
enhance nerfs when?
I never understand the concept of pushing keys.. this does not look fun nor rewarding at all
Yea true
To each their own. For me it's a sense of accomplishment and pushing limits.
I think it's a pretty simple concept, for any sport/hobby/competitive activity, there will always be people who get the most enjoyment out of pushing the limits of their skill as far as possible. That's kind of the point of infinitely scaling content.
fck m+, they screwed it.
I’m having a blast rn as a healer. Find 4 friends to play with bro it’s sooooo much better than pugging. I’m seeing everyone online dooming about how mythic plus is dying and I’m out here playing it more than ever with my guild lol
@@Huntamin77 beautiful dude, i loved pugging and they destroyed it, fck em for not being able to read their own data. Glad this dumb asses develop only games, imagine they would develop vehicle software...
@@Huntamin77 Agree with you, my grp broke up few weeks ago and im back to pugging :( But we had so much fun, enough 1 of them takes a break and the group goes on a break till s2. Sad af.
I'm enjoying a ton tbh, I do agree that the -15 on death is too much but with mainly just pugging its been fun
I have not watched a video, but let me guess, the healer was disc priest? Nope, not interested. I'd be much more interested to see how a holy priest does +15 or even +14 than this meta slavery fest.
Smells like unemployment
Well these guys get money from streaming and youtube, so they are fully unemployed.
Is streaming not considered employment?
What is this comment, how grumpy can someone get? This comment sounds like unemployment if anything.
He 100% makes more money than you😂
Lmfao