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For his third language I would have given him Goblin, he understands them and pays attention to them enough that i think he understands their language.
I've been thinking about this myself, and I would've started with Rogue. Goblin Slayer is all about the Sneak Attack, and his Roguish Expertise could be put into Survival for tracking goblins and Insight so he is never ever fooled by them playing dead. The Scout archetype makes him even better at hunting goblins, and prevents him from getting pinned down in a melee with the skirmisher. High dexterity would fit with his light armor and short weapons. Also, he was trained by guy called "Burglar". Battle Master makes sense. It represents his skill in killing goblins in melee and also out-foxing them in tactics. The carpenter's tools also make sense. I hadn't thought of thought, and I should have. So, yes, Battle Master is more fitting than Champion.
It's also mentioned he's a scout/ranger/warrior somewhere. In the light novels he pulls out some thieves' tools at one point and mentions to Heavy Warrior and Spearman (who he was working with at the time) that it wasn't his best skill but he knew how to pick a lock. In fact, the reason he was put on that mission was to balance out the party's skills because while on the surface it's a weird "three warrior" party, it turns out that Heavy Warrior is all warrior, Spearman is a warrior/wizard, and Goblin Slayer is a warrior/ranger/scout which covers all bases to some extent.
It's not a reach tho, it's even kinda hinted in the novel. There was even a novel and anime based on an homebrew campaign made from a few light novel authors session
I'd go for Variant Human with the Tough feat (because I love feats, they make the game more interesting for me as both a player and an occasional DM) and put my ability scores more like this, Dex 15/20 (he prefers the short sword in combat and wears medium armour, that lends itself well to Dexterity), Int 14/20 (I'd have to agree that he is quite smart, he takes in different scientific processes and incorporates them into the tactics in the fight against goblins), Wis 13/18 (this needs to be at least 13 or higher for multiclassing purposes, if he can hear quite well through his helmet, that's high perception), Con 12/16 (goblins tip their weapons in poison, piss and shit, so he needs to be well prepared), Strength 10 (no doubt he's in good shape, we just need other things more. I was educated by Tulok the Barbarian in character creation so we're taking this build up to lvl 20) and Cha 8 (he speaks in one word sentences most of the time, has virtually no social skills and reeks of goblin blood). For skills, I would take Perception from his being a Variant Human and the Haunted One background for Survival and Investigation. Put your free points in depending on what stats you took, I'd recommend Dex and Wis for Standard Array. For character lvls, I'll comprise the 1st 13 lvls of Rogue, specifically a Thief Rogue. His teacher was called Burglar, after all, and in this world, your name is what you do. Sneak Attack isn't aptly named so you don't have to be prone on the ground and covered in bushes & mud to deal the extra 7d6 damage. Any time your scaly companion is within 5ft of a Goblin Champion, you flank said Champion or you just get straight up advantage on your attack against said Champion, that's your Sneak Attack once per turn. For the 4 Rogue skills, I'll take Athletics, Acrobatics, Stealth and Sleight of Hand for better dungeon diving, with expertise in Athletics and Investigation. Cunning Action will help to avoid the goblins by Dashing, Disengaging, or Hiding as a bonus action. You could also Aim to add an advantage to a ranged attack because your party archer isn't really alone on marksmanship skills (yes, I love Unearthed Arcana, so any RAW elitists can back the fuck off). Second Story Work essentially gives you a climbing speed (re-flavour this as a climbing rope) and the ability to add your Dex to the distance of a running long jump. Fast Hands allows you to use your Thieves' Tools, make a Sleight of Hand check as or Use an Object as part of Cunning Action to pick locks, grab that water scroll before that ugly troll roasts you alive or grab ball bearings and caltrops to control the position of groups of goblins. The 1st Ability Score Improvement will go to Dex if you used Standard Array, otherwise grab the Skilled feat for Intimidation, Medicine and Arcana. Uncanny Dodge allows you to halve the damage of an attack if you can see the damage source as a reaction. 6th lvl Expertise goes towards Survival and Perception to tend to your companions. Evasion allows you to take only half damage when you get hit with a failed Dex save or no damage when you succeed. 8th lvl ASI goes to either another Dex improvement or the Prodigy feat, choose Animal Handling for your pet budgie or your cousin's cows. 9th Thieves get Supreme Sneak to gain advantage on any Stealth check when you don't move more than half speed. Your 10th lvl ASI should start on Wis for something we're going to get later, otherwise Defensive Duellist gives you + prof bonus to your AC as a reaction whilst wielding a finesse weapon. Reliable Talent means that you can no longer roll below a 10 on any skill check you're proficient with. 12th lvl ASI can continue adding to Wis or grabbing the Dungeon Delver feat so you can scout for traps, spring them and sense secret doors with your dumb human eyes. Use Magic Device allows you to use any magic item regardless of race or class restriction for anything the Witch gives you. Here comes the multiclass with 1st lvl UA Class Features Ranger. From the Deft Explorer list of features, Canny will give a skill from the Ranger list, go for History and you get another from the multiclass, go for Nature. Favoured Foe casts a concentration free Hunter's Mark a number of times equal to your Wisdom per short/long rest (it's 5 with my ideal stats or 4 with Standard Array) so if there is a big bad goblin boss, you get extra d6 damage to hit them. Choose the Dueling Fighting Style for +2 to your one handed weapon damage, this works with that targe strapped to your arm. Longstrider increases your movement by 10ft and Jump triples your jumping height/distance, mitigating your low Str score. The Hunter Conclave specialises in taking out all types of foes. Choose a Tactical Manoeuvre from Hunter's Prey, goblins come in large packs and Horde Breaker allows you to attack another creature within 5ft of your first target with your shortsword. The Alarm spell can be placed on any door, window or area no larger than 20ft to give off a mental ping or an audible bell to alarm any allies of stray goblins wandering into your area. The final ASI allows you to get a capped Wis for 5 Favoured Foe uses or if you already have that, the Medium Armour Master mitigates any disadvantages that Half Plate has and doesn't impose disadvantage on any Stealth check you make. Extra Attack is standard among martial classes, so you can attack 2 times with the Attack action. Magic Weapon makes your weapon magical for overcoming resistances/immunities and gives it +1 to attack and damage rolls. Choose another Deft Explorer feature, in this case Tireless to give yourself d10 + Wis mod 5 times before recharging on a short/long rest. 7th lvl Hunters can Escape the Horde, so that attacks against you are made with disadvantage. Pass Without Trace will add +10 to your Stealth checks and that of any creature within 30ft so that even your clumsy Cleric, stocky Dwarven Druid and lumbering Lizardfolk priest don't attract too much attention to you. Pros: Tons of damage, with Sneak Attack, concentration free Hunter's Mark, Magic Weapon and Horde Breaker Hard to hit, you get a shield, exceptional AC, Uncanny Dodge, Evasion and Escape the Horde Mobility options to go wherever you want Lots of skills to pay the bills, so roleplay it up Cons: Low Str, so getting restrained is a bit of a pain Low Cha, banishment is no fun and you're socially awkward Low Con, you need to be able to dodge because Con saves are real Specialised a bit too much in dungeon delving so you’re not as useful in battlefield scenarios unless it’s against goblins
One: Great build. Love it. Two: While he is a silver rank, I agree that he should be level 20 especially because he’s known for being way overqualified to be that rank. The only reason he’s still silver is because he only takes goblin-related missions, & only missions with much greater importance are recognized officially that are enough to get higher up.
Just want to point out that Goblins fall under "Goblinoids" which falls under "humanoid". If your choose humanoid, as your favored enemy, you get to choose 2 sub-humanoids (such as goblinoids, which include all types of goblins, including Bugbears) you can just have the other type of humanoid be "human" or "Orc" or something else.
I got the impression with Burgler as his mentor he was more roguish bc of all the outside the box thinking he does with scrolls and spells. But this makes sense. Well done!
Fighter/Ranger is good, since that's canonically what it says on his registration sheet (assuming you can call that canon). Charisma for the dump stat makes the most sense, since he's nice but uh...Charismatic he ain't. And Honestly I'd put constitution as his highest stat, since he's a tough bastard who's survived a LOT. Then dexterity for fighting in close quarters and ranged attacks. Then either Strength or Wisdom. He's not that strong compared to some of the other adventurers at that guild and he's not that smart. He's learned through trial and error and people telling him things. And then of course Charisma get's dumped. And I only know this because I was trying to do this exact thing, but his armor is almost exactly described in the Player's Handbook as Splint. Metal affixed to leather, with chain-mail protecting the joints. This and half plate both give disadvantage on stealth so that doesn't make a difference. Splint is also significantly cheaper and if there's one thing Goblin Slayer doesn't do it's break the bank on his equipment.
Personally I'd drop charger to get a +1 to Dex and Con, because I can't stand the sight of an odd main ability score. Also he gets an extra language for favoured enemy which has to be Goblin.
Follow-Up Question: If you were to make this a build guide on "How to make Goblin Slayer in D&D 5e" what would you do with the last 4 levels? IME I would round out Fighter to 16 for the extra Ability Score Improvement and spend the last 3 levels getting Ranger to 4th so I could pick up Hordebreaker and another Ability Score Improvement. But that's just me.
A few things. 1) I believe he's also got a level of rogue thrown in there. It's by no means his best skills, but he can set/notice/and disarm traps and even pulls out some lockpicks at one point in the light novels. It's also mentioned he's a ranger/warrior/scout hybrid a couple places. 2) I'd argue he's got a higher Wisdom than intelligence, and that his intelligence is actually incredibly average. Intelligence has a lot more book-learning to it, and it's pretty clear the guy is seriously lacking in that department when he can't name or remember any monster that's not a goblin. His tactical knowledge and clever use of items is more a matter of "common sense" and experience than anything. Plus all the Wisdom stats feed into his ability to track goblins and take care of his teammates. His Wisdom is not INCREDIBLY high, though, given, as you said, that there are likely to be long-lasting consequences to flooding or collapsing tunnels. 3) Physical stats I believe would go Con, Dex, then Str in order of importance, given he spends a lot of time throwing things and seems to rely more on his ability to move than to withstand a hit given his preference for lighter armor, but that he's also something of a determinator. So using your array, I'd put his stats at Str: 13, Dex: 14, Con: 15, Int: 10, Wis: 12, Cha: 8, with the option to switch Str and Wis depending on which you think he'd need more to do what he does.
I like this one quite a bit, however, I don't think he is that high of a level. A level 20 character is supposed to be really rare, a level 15 character is around the level of the strongest knights and spell casters in a kingdom. Taking that into consideration, and that Goblin slayer only kills goblins, I think he is more around the level of 6 (5 fighter, 1 ranger) . I almost want to say that he is part barbarian because of his rage mode, but I think the rolling of the dice was his action surge and second wind at play. The big reason as to why I don't think Goblin slayer could be a level 16 is because of how quickly goblins can actually defeat him. A couple of hits and he is down for the count against a goblin champion, or an ogre (though the ogre was likely a dnd Oni, and the goblin champions on par with a troll, challenge rating 7 and 5, which would make sense that a character at 6th level would struggle against them).
Mind you, the goblins seen in his campaign are a good bit more hardcore then the average gobbo is, so a few bad dice-rolls may well put him on the back foot. Paired with the fact that he doesn't seem to use magic items, either.
@@Nehfarius I don't think they are. Normal DnD goblins can hit hard against normal people, which is why I would argue that they are the same. Goblins have an Intelligence of 10, so about the same as a human. I would say that you could argue that goblins in DnD are actually stronger than in goblin slayer, but overall are about the same. I think goblin slayer is a good example that the hero does not need to be extremely overpowered inorder to be strong and effective. Against normal goblins, an adventuring team of level 5 could get wrecked by a surprise round alone, while goblin slayer prevails because he out wits his enemy, because he is prepared. He can also stand his ground against larger enemies in which most people would be helpless against, such as the Oni he defeated, which to some extent could also be compared to the DnD Oni which is Cr 7. That was a hard encounter for him, but he prevailed.
If you read the light novels they describe platinum ranks as legendary heroes that only show up every few generations and adventurers that reach gold rank are appointed to carry out missions for the government, so silver is as high as you can go and still be an independent adventurer. So 16 really does fit for silver rank.
@@srdxxx I would still disagree. If we look at it through that same concept, platinum heroes would be level 17-20 with good gear (Heroes that can take on dragons liches and the like), gold would be level 13-16, and silver would likely be between 8-12. Goblin slayer likely being a low-mid ranked silver, which would make him level 10 at best. My point though was that you could do everything goblin slayer can do at level 6. Goblin slayer himself may be of a higher level, even though he has a low health pool and cannot do a lot of damage in a straight on fight. I would think that he is a battle master fighter as he has maneuvers against stronger enemies. The really epic scenes of goblin slayer getting up would be his second wind, and the times where does a lot of damage such as strangling with human hair could be his action surge going into affect. Most people seem to forget that even a level 1 player character has trained in their combat field for an entire year and should be equivalated to a solider or guard. They are strong people.
@@khajiitimanus7432 In the novel, the GM are the gods since they are the ones that creates the "adventures" and places the monsters and traps. Some of the gods, like the god of truth, is such a dick that he would sometimes add surprise monsters in an adventure just to tpk adventurers.
In goblin year one we find out he multi classed 3 ways ways scout fighter and ranger when he started I'd add say by the time the show starts he has got 1 in ranger 3 in scout rogue at least 2 in barbarian and I'd say since he uses a lot of none magical chemicals with effects make him a level 3 alchemist artificer that can't buys his stuff instead of making it then put the rest in battle master fighter we also know he is unique considering his rolls mot being done by the gods so I'd say that could count as a variant human.
Love the concept! Just a constructive critic, I feel like level 16 is high for a silver hero like Goblin Slayer. I would have went with fighter 8 or 9 ranger 1
I am tired as heck. I mixed up fighting style and martial archetype while watching this, and I feel so gosh darn dumb. Hooray for my nat 1 on awareness!
To be honest this can improve, Give a little bit more of ranger levels or at least think of making him a variant human. Goblin slayer is not the strongest but I think he could use a little bit of more strength and dexterity. For weapons I really considered give him more and give him the feat to make him to make improvise weapons.
@@thegreatandterrible4508 with that i don't mean that you just ignore all the rules, but some DMs allow you to multiclasd without needing to feed the stats requirements
@@alvarox951 I know, I'm saying in terms of the video. House rules are all well and good, but this is a video about the rules. Or, at least, that's the premise given.
Yeah I was just making this character on Fifth Edition Character Sheet and just realized this goblin slayer sheet he made wouldn’t work unless I had a 13 wisdom. Also I have never met a DM that didn’t enforce the multi class requirement rule. That’s a pretty big requirement in my opinion. Otherwise things could overpowered.
Didn't think you'd multiclass, otherwise I'd argue full ranger, probably hunter, oh and you could just flavor his spells to look like traps, gadgets, explosives, etc
I'm only to the class part, and I'm already think he has multiclassed a few times. Between fighter, rogue, ranger, and berserker. He is def true neutral.
I hate to be rude here but I feel like you got intelligence and wisdom completely swapped. Wisdom is completely based on using your surroundings while intelligence is recalling information in history. I would still use charisma as his dumb stat as he doesn't have a lot of presence nor is he very charismatic Personally I'd probably use point binds instead of standard array but if I had to use standard array I think would be better for his base stats would be: 15, wisdom 14, dex 13, con [ has most of his ability to be unstoppable comes from his armor. I'll just say he's not a tough BAMF, but he has a pretty high armor class is what I'm going off of] 12, str 10, int 8 cha And while I'm not super heavy on the alignment system cuz I think it's not used as heavily as people think it is, I would firmly place them in neutral good. As he sees what he does as an act of good for getting rid of goblins. One could even make an argument for chaotic good but I do believe he's a good character at heart He's just not going to go out of his way to help people, unless that problem involves goblins.
I feel like a lot of what Intelligence and Wisdom are about is up for interpretation. Like when to use Perception and when to use Investigation. I personally consider being able to come up with tricks and strategies on the fly like Goblin Slayer does to be indicative of higher Intelligence, while a lower Wisdom could be because of a less than stable mental state. Each score in 5e really seems to encompass many different things, usually related very loosely to each other. As for the alignment, I've actually dropped it completely from my videos, because I've decided that a rigid alignment is ultimately detrimental to roleplay.
@@tabletopnephilim4633 Perception is normally just to see. Investigation is more about finding clues to a crime or a 'scene' Like figuring out that goblins attacked, how many how many people may have been there. But it is up to the dm what they want someone to roll. In the end, the video is find, and your reasons are good, even if I disagree.
@@ThePrinceOfSpace413 Thank you, your ideas are good too. I'm honestly considering redoing my first three videos at some point, so I welcome as much input as I can get.
@@tabletopnephilim4633 As a content creator I assume you strive to produce the best content. I don't think you've truly made a mistake as you made valid arguments for the things you put forward. I hope you don't take my comments or something to be negative but as positive criticism. The only thing I hope to offer is a different idea on the subject, I love DND and anime and seeing the two put together is always enjoyable. I definitely knew from the beginning of the video that you were going to say that there's a level of ranger because of the favored enemy goblin. I agree that and he's mostly a warrior, and wanted to argue that he might be samurai subclass to give him more advantage on attacking, but I think you also made a valid reason for battle master. Like I don't care for battle master but you made it sound far more enjoyable to play just with this video
@@ThePrinceOfSpace413 You're right, I do try to make the best videos I can. My only regret is that I may have rushed into making this channel. I was still new to DnD, so I hadn't quite gotten the hang of how everything worked with the system.
How does Goblin Slayer use a 9th level Gate Scroll as a Fighter/Ranger? He has no UMD Skill Points (3e-3.5e) or 13 Rogue levels (5e). He also seems to have barbarian rage, boosting his CON, letting him stay alive in a certain fight until it runs out (no spoilers). If he is anything it is likely 13 Rogue (UMD and low HP pool - he gets downed quite quickly)/1 Barbarian (Rage)/1 Ranger (favored enemy etc.)/1 Fighter (armor/shield proficiency) or something to this effect.
Indeed, how DOES he use such a scroll? And I mean that with both the anime and the lite novel. The thing about Goblin Slayer is that it may have been BASED on DnD, 1st edition specifically from what I've been told because that's what the author originally played, but it's also...NOT DnD. Clearly liberties were taken. As for the build itself, I'll admit I didn't fully know what I was doing since I was still fairly new to DnD as a whole myself. I have considered adding in levels of Barbarian if I ever redid this build. Although I never considered Rogue, but then again I'm actually only just now learning that 5e even HAS rules for using scrolls. And Thief Rogue does work thematically since he was trained by the Goblin Slayer equivalent of Bilbo Baggins. You may be on to something here.
@@tabletopnephilim4633 That makes sense - the homebrew thing. The anime describes magic scrolls as being able to be used by anyone, even a small child. Unless... would he have been able to use a Create Water scroll, and the whole portal scroll thing and whatnot was just drama flavor? I am not very familiar with scrolls in DnD....
In the Goblin Slayer 'verse, Scrolls are a general item that can be used by any adventurer (I presume) who is literate, and has the relevant INT/WIS stat high enough to permit spell casting. So he can do it that way. Goblin Slayer is presented as a jack of all trades adventurer, so it wouldn't be surprising for him to have proficiencies and feats that weren't part of a specific build.
DamagedRoses Well, in the anime there are 10 ranks for adventurers ranking from Porcelain to Platinum. He’s a silver rank, which is rank 8 out of 10. So from a strictly objective standpoint, he should be around level 15-17.
Let's also remember he's walking around 1 shotting every Goblin that crosses his path. Outside of a handful of high damage builds, you aren't seeing that kind of damage consistently until much higher level.
@@JasmineCooper_ 10 ranks doesn't mean we should divide by 10 tough, plat is only 18 -20, but i think gold goes from 13-17, and silver 7-12, all other ranks are just a single level with the lesser one being lvl 1and a half. Climbing low ranks is easy, but climbing higer gets constantly harder, i depict GS around low silver, cause higher silvers at the end are literally OS champions, same goes for the rest of the party except for the cleric girl whose rank at the end of the series I don't remember.
@@MissLilianae Doing 7 damage isn't that much of a problem IHMO, even with a shortsword let's say he gets +2 from stats and a +1 from a +1 weapon, he oneshots goblins half the times he rolls dmg, give him 2 attacks and he kills a goblin each turn. It seems plausible to me.
Mauro Turati Yeah... But you do realize that the XP requirements to level up ALSO gets constantly higher and therefore harder? So that’s already incorporated? What makes you think that you need a variable number of levels per rank when the XP needed to gain a level increases? I don’t see why that needs to be a thing. Especially since he’s only killing goblins, meeting the XP requirements for such a level is no small feat by any stretch of the imagination.
I like this build but if you mad GS lvl 5 what what you prioritize? Most of my dm's don't run characters above lvl 5 and I've only run fighter once years ago.
I don't know man 16 seems a bit excessive, rising above 10th level you start to get into like... legendary heroes and emergent demi-god levels of power. Slayer is strong but he's not *that* strong. XD
Also he actually says so himself when asked by priestess. He just has practiced and gotten so good at being able to envision the goblins in the dark, where he can just throw his shortsword into the dark and get a goblin in the throat
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For his third language I would have given him Goblin, he understands them and pays attention to them enough that i think he understands their language.
In the movie he isn't able to understand their speech
He knows goblin is a language... but he isn't proficient
He can't speak goblin.
@@BennyFNV speaking and understanding are 2 different things. Also his "master" was a goblin.....
@@samimermer1982 his master was a Rhea
Tulok the barbarian wusses out on a poll when goblin slayer was chosen so I'm glad someone has the balls to do this.
Goblin Slayer isn't for everyone, especially that first episode. I was disappointed when he back out on it too, but I respect his decision.
Neither of them do one on how to be Hajime Nagumo yet, hope one of em does (yeah yeah he uses guns I know)
I've been thinking about this myself, and I would've started with Rogue. Goblin Slayer is all about the Sneak Attack, and his Roguish Expertise could be put into Survival for tracking goblins and Insight so he is never ever fooled by them playing dead. The Scout archetype makes him even better at hunting goblins, and prevents him from getting pinned down in a melee with the skirmisher. High dexterity would fit with his light armor and short weapons.
Also, he was trained by guy called "Burglar".
Battle Master makes sense. It represents his skill in killing goblins in melee and also out-foxing them in tactics. The carpenter's tools also make sense. I hadn't thought of thought, and I should have. So, yes, Battle Master is more fitting than Champion.
It's also mentioned he's a scout/ranger/warrior somewhere. In the light novels he pulls out some thieves' tools at one point and mentions to Heavy Warrior and Spearman (who he was working with at the time) that it wasn't his best skill but he knew how to pick a lock. In fact, the reason he was put on that mission was to balance out the party's skills because while on the surface it's a weird "three warrior" party, it turns out that Heavy Warrior is all warrior, Spearman is a warrior/wizard, and Goblin Slayer is a warrior/ranger/scout which covers all bases to some extent.
As someone who has always wanted to get into D&D and loves Goblin Slayer, this is super helpful
Guess what, GOBLIN SLAYER SEASON 2 JUST ANNOUNCED
Woah wait really? When?! I must know!
I think Goblin slayer is just a heavily homebrewed campaign.
Oh, absolutely.
It's not a reach tho, it's even kinda hinted in the novel. There was even a novel and anime based on an homebrew campaign made from a few light novel authors session
@@verycasul Yeah, as soon as the anime mentioned that the gods rolled dice, I thought "Oh, so this is literally just someone's grimdark DnD campaign."
@@tabletopnephilim4633 if you happened to read the manga or the novel (and it's 3 spin-off), it's even more obvious
This and Overlord are based on their author's D'nD sessions.
Don't mind me, just researching how to make Goblin Slayer in Baldurs Gate 3. Awesome vid mate keep them coming
I'd go for Variant Human with the Tough feat (because I love feats, they make the game more interesting for me as both a player and an occasional DM) and put my ability scores more like this, Dex 15/20 (he prefers the short sword in combat and wears medium armour, that lends itself well to Dexterity), Int 14/20 (I'd have to agree that he is quite smart, he takes in different scientific processes and incorporates them into the tactics in the fight against goblins), Wis 13/18 (this needs to be at least 13 or higher for multiclassing purposes, if he can hear quite well through his helmet, that's high perception), Con 12/16 (goblins tip their weapons in poison, piss and shit, so he needs to be well prepared), Strength 10 (no doubt he's in good shape, we just need other things more. I was educated by Tulok the Barbarian in character creation so we're taking this build up to lvl 20) and Cha 8 (he speaks in one word sentences most of the time, has virtually no social skills and reeks of goblin blood). For skills, I would take Perception from his being a Variant Human and the Haunted One background for Survival and Investigation. Put your free points in depending on what stats you took, I'd recommend Dex and Wis for Standard Array.
For character lvls, I'll comprise the 1st 13 lvls of Rogue, specifically a Thief Rogue. His teacher was called Burglar, after all, and in this world, your name is what you do. Sneak Attack isn't aptly named so you don't have to be prone on the ground and covered in bushes & mud to deal the extra 7d6 damage. Any time your scaly companion is within 5ft of a Goblin Champion, you flank said Champion or you just get straight up advantage on your attack against said Champion, that's your Sneak Attack once per turn. For the 4 Rogue skills, I'll take Athletics, Acrobatics, Stealth and Sleight of Hand for better dungeon diving, with expertise in Athletics and Investigation. Cunning Action will help to avoid the goblins by Dashing, Disengaging, or Hiding as a bonus action. You could also Aim to add an advantage to a ranged attack because your party archer isn't really alone on marksmanship skills (yes, I love Unearthed Arcana, so any RAW elitists can back the fuck off). Second Story Work essentially gives you a climbing speed (re-flavour this as a climbing rope) and the ability to add your Dex to the distance of a running long jump. Fast Hands allows you to use your Thieves' Tools, make a Sleight of Hand check as or Use an Object as part of Cunning Action to pick locks, grab that water scroll before that ugly troll roasts you alive or grab ball bearings and caltrops to control the position of groups of goblins. The 1st Ability Score Improvement will go to Dex if you used Standard Array, otherwise grab the Skilled feat for Intimidation, Medicine and Arcana. Uncanny Dodge allows you to halve the damage of an attack if you can see the damage source as a reaction. 6th lvl Expertise goes towards Survival and Perception to tend to your companions. Evasion allows you to take only half damage when you get hit with a failed Dex save or no damage when you succeed. 8th lvl ASI goes to either another Dex improvement or the Prodigy feat, choose Animal Handling for your pet budgie or your cousin's cows. 9th Thieves get Supreme Sneak to gain advantage on any Stealth check when you don't move more than half speed. Your 10th lvl ASI should start on Wis for something we're going to get later, otherwise Defensive Duellist gives you + prof bonus to your AC as a reaction whilst wielding a finesse weapon. Reliable Talent means that you can no longer roll below a 10 on any skill check you're proficient with. 12th lvl ASI can continue adding to Wis or grabbing the Dungeon Delver feat so you can scout for traps, spring them and sense secret doors with your dumb human eyes. Use Magic Device allows you to use any magic item regardless of race or class restriction for anything the Witch gives you.
Here comes the multiclass with 1st lvl UA Class Features Ranger. From the Deft Explorer list of features, Canny will give a skill from the Ranger list, go for History and you get another from the multiclass, go for Nature. Favoured Foe casts a concentration free Hunter's Mark a number of times equal to your Wisdom per short/long rest (it's 5 with my ideal stats or 4 with Standard Array) so if there is a big bad goblin boss, you get extra d6 damage to hit them. Choose the Dueling Fighting Style for +2 to your one handed weapon damage, this works with that targe strapped to your arm. Longstrider increases your movement by 10ft and Jump triples your jumping height/distance, mitigating your low Str score. The Hunter Conclave specialises in taking out all types of foes. Choose a Tactical Manoeuvre from Hunter's Prey, goblins come in large packs and Horde Breaker allows you to attack another creature within 5ft of your first target with your shortsword. The Alarm spell can be placed on any door, window or area no larger than 20ft to give off a mental ping or an audible bell to alarm any allies of stray goblins wandering into your area. The final ASI allows you to get a capped Wis for 5 Favoured Foe uses or if you already have that, the Medium Armour Master mitigates any disadvantages that Half Plate has and doesn't impose disadvantage on any Stealth check you make. Extra Attack is standard among martial classes, so you can attack 2 times with the Attack action. Magic Weapon makes your weapon magical for overcoming resistances/immunities and gives it +1 to attack and damage rolls. Choose another Deft Explorer feature, in this case Tireless to give yourself d10 + Wis mod 5 times before recharging on a short/long rest. 7th lvl Hunters can Escape the Horde, so that attacks against you are made with disadvantage. Pass Without Trace will add +10 to your Stealth checks and that of any creature within 30ft so that even your clumsy Cleric, stocky Dwarven Druid and lumbering Lizardfolk priest don't attract too much attention to you.
Pros:
Tons of damage, with Sneak Attack, concentration free Hunter's Mark, Magic Weapon and Horde Breaker
Hard to hit, you get a shield, exceptional AC, Uncanny Dodge, Evasion and Escape the Horde
Mobility options to go wherever you want
Lots of skills to pay the bills, so roleplay it up
Cons:
Low Str, so getting restrained is a bit of a pain
Low Cha, banishment is no fun and you're socially awkward
Low Con, you need to be able to dodge because Con saves are real
Specialised a bit too much in dungeon delving so you’re not as useful in battlefield scenarios unless it’s against goblins
One: Great build. Love it. Two: While he is a silver rank, I agree that he should be level 20 especially because he’s known for being way overqualified to be that rank. The only reason he’s still silver is because he only takes goblin-related missions, & only missions with much greater importance are recognized officially that are enough to get higher up.
Personally, I would've dipped into artificer since Goblin Slayer is so good at laying down traps.
Just want to point out that Goblins fall under "Goblinoids" which falls under "humanoid". If your choose humanoid, as your favored enemy, you get to choose 2 sub-humanoids (such as goblinoids, which include all types of goblins, including Bugbears) you can just have the other type of humanoid be "human" or "Orc" or something else.
I would choose ogres since he killed one of those
That's really interesting to know....
Goblin Aliens!?!
@@CreaturesGtS While Ogres are technically humanoid; they are classified as giants.
I got the impression with Burgler as his mentor he was more roguish bc of all the outside the box thinking he does with scrolls and spells. But this makes sense. Well done!
So funny thing, I actually did a remake of this build, and...
Fighter/Ranger is good, since that's canonically what it says on his registration sheet (assuming you can call that canon).
Charisma for the dump stat makes the most sense, since he's nice but uh...Charismatic he ain't.
And Honestly I'd put constitution as his highest stat, since he's a tough bastard who's survived a LOT. Then dexterity for fighting in close quarters and ranged attacks. Then either Strength or Wisdom. He's not that strong compared to some of the other adventurers at that guild and he's not that smart. He's learned through trial and error and people telling him things. And then of course Charisma get's dumped.
And I only know this because I was trying to do this exact thing, but his armor is almost exactly described in the Player's Handbook as Splint. Metal affixed to leather, with chain-mail protecting the joints. This and half plate both give disadvantage on stealth so that doesn't make a difference. Splint is also significantly cheaper and if there's one thing Goblin Slayer doesn't do it's break the bank on his equipment.
Personally I'd drop charger to get a +1 to Dex and Con, because I can't stand the sight of an odd main ability score. Also he gets an extra language for favoured enemy which has to be Goblin.
He doesn't actually know how to speak goblin though.
or if keeping charger is a must, drop the one point in con to dex, cuz it's not doing ANYTHING there, and it angers me.
Follow-Up Question:
If you were to make this a build guide on "How to make Goblin Slayer in D&D 5e" what would you do with the last 4 levels?
IME I would round out Fighter to 16 for the extra Ability Score Improvement and spend the last 3 levels getting Ranger to 4th so I could pick up Hordebreaker and another Ability Score Improvement. But that's just me.
Get barbarian, he does rage
A few things. 1) I believe he's also got a level of rogue thrown in there. It's by no means his best skills, but he can set/notice/and disarm traps and even pulls out some lockpicks at one point in the light novels. It's also mentioned he's a ranger/warrior/scout hybrid a couple places. 2) I'd argue he's got a higher Wisdom than intelligence, and that his intelligence is actually incredibly average. Intelligence has a lot more book-learning to it, and it's pretty clear the guy is seriously lacking in that department when he can't name or remember any monster that's not a goblin. His tactical knowledge and clever use of items is more a matter of "common sense" and experience than anything. Plus all the Wisdom stats feed into his ability to track goblins and take care of his teammates. His Wisdom is not INCREDIBLY high, though, given, as you said, that there are likely to be long-lasting consequences to flooding or collapsing tunnels. 3) Physical stats I believe would go Con, Dex, then Str in order of importance, given he spends a lot of time throwing things and seems to rely more on his ability to move than to withstand a hit given his preference for lighter armor, but that he's also something of a determinator.
So using your array, I'd put his stats at Str: 13, Dex: 14, Con: 15, Int: 10, Wis: 12, Cha: 8, with the option to switch Str and Wis depending on which you think he'd need more to do what he does.
I like this one quite a bit, however, I don't think he is that high of a level. A level 20 character is supposed to be really rare, a level 15 character is around the level of the strongest knights and spell casters in a kingdom. Taking that into consideration, and that Goblin slayer only kills goblins, I think he is more around the level of 6 (5 fighter, 1 ranger) . I almost want to say that he is part barbarian because of his rage mode, but I think the rolling of the dice was his action surge and second wind at play. The big reason as to why I don't think Goblin slayer could be a level 16 is because of how quickly goblins can actually defeat him. A couple of hits and he is down for the count against a goblin champion, or an ogre (though the ogre was likely a dnd Oni, and the goblin champions on par with a troll, challenge rating 7 and 5, which would make sense that a character at 6th level would struggle against them).
Mind you, the goblins seen in his campaign are a good bit more hardcore then the average gobbo is, so a few bad dice-rolls may well put him on the back foot. Paired with the fact that he doesn't seem to use magic items, either.
@@Nehfarius I don't think they are. Normal DnD goblins can hit hard against normal people, which is why I would argue that they are the same. Goblins have an Intelligence of 10, so about the same as a human. I would say that you could argue that goblins in DnD are actually stronger than in goblin slayer, but overall are about the same.
I think goblin slayer is a good example that the hero does not need to be extremely overpowered inorder to be strong and effective. Against normal goblins, an adventuring team of level 5 could get wrecked by a surprise round alone, while goblin slayer prevails because he out wits his enemy, because he is prepared. He can also stand his ground against larger enemies in which most people would be helpless against, such as the Oni he defeated, which to some extent could also be compared to the DnD Oni which is Cr 7. That was a hard encounter for him, but he prevailed.
If you read the light novels they describe platinum ranks as legendary heroes that only show up every few generations and adventurers that reach gold rank are appointed to carry out missions for the government, so silver is as high as you can go and still be an independent adventurer. So 16 really does fit for silver rank.
@@srdxxx I would still disagree. If we look at it through that same concept, platinum heroes would be level 17-20 with good gear (Heroes that can take on dragons liches and the like), gold would be level 13-16, and silver would likely be between 8-12. Goblin slayer likely being a low-mid ranked silver, which would make him level 10 at best. My point though was that you could do everything goblin slayer can do at level 6. Goblin slayer himself may be of a higher level, even though he has a low health pool and cannot do a lot of damage in a straight on fight. I would think that he is a battle master fighter as he has maneuvers against stronger enemies. The really epic scenes of goblin slayer getting up would be his second wind, and the times where does a lot of damage such as strangling with human hair could be his action surge going into affect.
Most people seem to forget that even a level 1 player character has trained in their combat field for an entire year and should be equivalated to a solider or guard. They are strong people.
I wished to have the Goblin Slayer's author as the GM, though.
Who's to say that the author isn't the GM?
I mean, I haven't read the manga or novel, so... is the author not the GM? :p
@@khajiitimanus7432 In the novel, the GM are the gods since they are the ones that creates the "adventures" and places the monsters and traps. Some of the gods, like the god of truth, is such a dick that he would sometimes add surprise monsters in an adventure just to tpk adventurers.
@@hittkid6312 Huh, that's quite interesting! Thanks for sharing that.
Also, sounds like God of Truth is an ironic hypocrite.
In goblin year one we find out he multi classed 3 ways ways scout fighter and ranger when he started I'd add say by the time the show starts he has got 1 in ranger 3 in scout rogue at least 2 in barbarian and I'd say since he uses a lot of none magical chemicals with effects make him a level 3 alchemist artificer that can't buys his stuff instead of making it then put the rest in battle master fighter we also know he is unique considering his rolls mot being done by the gods so I'd say that could count as a variant human.
Love the concept! Just a constructive critic, I feel like level 16 is high for a silver hero like Goblin Slayer. I would have went with fighter 8 or 9 ranger 1
I am tired as heck.
I mixed up fighting style and martial archetype while watching this, and I feel so gosh darn dumb.
Hooray for my nat 1 on awareness!
To be honest this can improve,
Give a little bit more of ranger levels or at least think of making him a variant human. Goblin slayer is not the strongest but I think he could use a little bit of more strength and dexterity. For weapons I really considered give him more and give him the feat to make him to make improvise weapons.
Would have to do a variant human, since he explicitly cannot use magic himself, and thus cannot be more than a level 1 Ranger. :p
I know this is a newbie question but don't you need both Dex & Wis 13 to multiclass ranger?
i think it depends a lot on the person or DM, some DMs allow you to multiclass into anything, while others prefer to follow the requirements
@@alvarox951 Still, if you're trying to make something as if the world ran on D&D rule you should, you know... use the rules.
@@thegreatandterrible4508 with that i don't mean that you just ignore all the rules, but some DMs allow you to multiclasd without needing to feed the stats requirements
@@alvarox951 I know, I'm saying in terms of the video. House rules are all well and good, but this is a video about the rules. Or, at least, that's the premise given.
Yeah I was just making this character on Fifth Edition Character Sheet and just realized this goblin slayer sheet he made wouldn’t work unless I had a 13 wisdom. Also I have never met a DM that didn’t enforce the multi class requirement rule. That’s a pretty big requirement in my opinion. Otherwise things could overpowered.
considering he learned how to fight from Burglar maybe start off with rouge?
Didn't think you'd multiclass, otherwise I'd argue full ranger, probably hunter, oh and you could just flavor his spells to look like traps, gadgets, explosives, etc
Swap Str and Int and your right
Also fix Wisdom because I forgot multiclass requirements, lol.
He could be barbarian i mean holy fuck goblin slayer doesn't die.
Funny you should mention that, I actually remade this build not too long ago.
I'm only to the class part, and I'm already think he has multiclassed a few times. Between fighter, rogue, ranger, and berserker. He is def true neutral.
I hate to be rude here but I feel like you got intelligence and wisdom completely swapped.
Wisdom is completely based on using your surroundings while intelligence is recalling information in history. I would still use charisma as his dumb stat as he doesn't have a lot of presence nor is he very charismatic
Personally I'd probably use point binds instead of standard array but if I had to use standard array I think would be better for his base stats would be:
15, wisdom
14, dex
13, con [ has most of his ability to be unstoppable comes from his armor. I'll just say he's not a tough BAMF, but he has a pretty high armor class is what I'm going off of]
12, str
10, int
8 cha
And while I'm not super heavy on the alignment system cuz I think it's not used as heavily as people think it is, I would firmly place them in neutral good. As he sees what he does as an act of good for getting rid of goblins. One could even make an argument for chaotic good but I do believe he's a good character at heart He's just not going to go out of his way to help people, unless that problem involves goblins.
I feel like a lot of what Intelligence and Wisdom are about is up for interpretation. Like when to use Perception and when to use Investigation. I personally consider being able to come up with tricks and strategies on the fly like Goblin Slayer does to be indicative of higher Intelligence, while a lower Wisdom could be because of a less than stable mental state. Each score in 5e really seems to encompass many different things, usually related very loosely to each other.
As for the alignment, I've actually dropped it completely from my videos, because I've decided that a rigid alignment is ultimately detrimental to roleplay.
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Perception is normally just to see.
Investigation is more about finding clues to a crime or a 'scene'
Like figuring out that goblins attacked, how many how many people may have been there.
But it is up to the dm what they want someone to roll.
In the end, the video is find, and your reasons are good, even if I disagree.
@@ThePrinceOfSpace413 Thank you, your ideas are good too. I'm honestly considering redoing my first three videos at some point, so I welcome as much input as I can get.
@@tabletopnephilim4633
As a content creator I assume you strive to produce the best content. I don't think you've truly made a mistake as you made valid arguments for the things you put forward. I hope you don't take my comments or something to be negative but as positive criticism.
The only thing I hope to offer is a different idea on the subject, I love DND and anime and seeing the two put together is always enjoyable.
I definitely knew from the beginning of the video that you were going to say that there's a level of ranger because of the favored enemy goblin.
I agree that and he's mostly a warrior, and wanted to argue that he might be samurai subclass to give him more advantage on attacking, but I think you also made a valid reason for battle master. Like I don't care for battle master but you made it sound far more enjoyable to play just with this video
@@ThePrinceOfSpace413 You're right, I do try to make the best videos I can. My only regret is that I may have rushed into making this channel. I was still new to DnD, so I hadn't quite gotten the hang of how everything worked with the system.
All and all really cool I don't know much about 5th edition
How does Goblin Slayer use a 9th level Gate Scroll as a Fighter/Ranger? He has no UMD Skill Points (3e-3.5e) or 13 Rogue levels (5e). He also seems to have barbarian rage, boosting his CON, letting him stay alive in a certain fight until it runs out (no spoilers). If he is anything it is likely 13 Rogue (UMD and low HP pool - he gets downed quite quickly)/1 Barbarian (Rage)/1 Ranger (favored enemy etc.)/1 Fighter (armor/shield proficiency) or something to this effect.
Indeed, how DOES he use such a scroll? And I mean that with both the anime and the lite novel. The thing about Goblin Slayer is that it may have been BASED on DnD, 1st edition specifically from what I've been told because that's what the author originally played, but it's also...NOT DnD. Clearly liberties were taken. As for the build itself, I'll admit I didn't fully know what I was doing since I was still fairly new to DnD as a whole myself. I have considered adding in levels of Barbarian if I ever redid this build. Although I never considered Rogue, but then again I'm actually only just now learning that 5e even HAS rules for using scrolls. And Thief Rogue does work thematically since he was trained by the Goblin Slayer equivalent of Bilbo Baggins. You may be on to something here.
@@tabletopnephilim4633 That makes sense - the homebrew thing.
The anime describes magic scrolls as being able to be used by anyone, even a small child.
Unless... would he have been able to use a Create Water scroll, and the whole portal scroll thing and whatnot was just drama flavor? I am not very familiar with scrolls in DnD....
In the Goblin Slayer 'verse, Scrolls are a general item that can be used by any adventurer (I presume) who is literate, and has the relevant INT/WIS stat high enough to permit spell casting. So he can do it that way. Goblin Slayer is presented as a jack of all trades adventurer, so it wouldn't be surprising for him to have proficiencies and feats that weren't part of a specific build.
Level 16? that seems a bit too much. He's more of a level 8-10, in my opinion. Glad you like GS and nice video.
DamagedRoses Well, in the anime there are 10 ranks for adventurers ranking from Porcelain to Platinum. He’s a silver rank, which is rank 8 out of 10. So from a strictly objective standpoint, he should be around level 15-17.
Let's also remember he's walking around 1 shotting every Goblin that crosses his path. Outside of a handful of high damage builds, you aren't seeing that kind of damage consistently until much higher level.
@@JasmineCooper_ 10 ranks doesn't mean we should divide by 10 tough, plat is only 18 -20, but i think gold goes from 13-17, and silver 7-12, all other ranks are just a single level with the lesser one being lvl 1and a half. Climbing low ranks is easy, but climbing higer gets constantly harder, i depict GS around low silver, cause higher silvers at the end are literally OS champions, same goes for the rest of the party except for the cleric girl whose rank at the end of the series I don't remember.
@@MissLilianae Doing 7 damage isn't that much of a problem IHMO, even with a shortsword let's say he gets +2 from stats and a +1 from a +1 weapon, he oneshots goblins half the times he rolls dmg, give him 2 attacks and he kills a goblin each turn. It seems plausible to me.
Mauro Turati Yeah... But you do realize that the XP requirements to level up ALSO gets constantly higher and therefore harder? So that’s already incorporated? What makes you think that you need a variable number of levels per rank when the XP needed to gain a level increases? I don’t see why that needs to be a thing. Especially since he’s only killing goblins, meeting the XP requirements for such a level is no small feat by any stretch of the imagination.
Make a Rimaru Tempest build
I have plans for Rimuru, just trying to figure out some details before I commit.
I like this build but if you mad
GS lvl 5 what what you prioritize? Most of my dm's don't run characters above lvl 5 and I've only run fighter once years ago.
Idk what I’m talking about really so help me if I’m wrong, but might he be an oath of vengeance paladin?
No spells, little belief in deities, and no charisma means no paladin
@@CreaturesGtS Yup.
I've never played dnd. And I wanna lol
i like the build but you do not meet the multiclassing prerequisites for ranger, you need a wisdom of 13 to multiclass into ranger
Yeah, I know. I'd never made a multiclass character before, so I forgot the requirements were a thing. If I ever redo this I plan to fix it.
Multiclassing into ranger is impossible since his wisdom is too low, it needs to be at least 13
I fixed it in the Rebuild.
You need 13 on Dex and Wis to multiclass into Ranger... unless this is for a Homebrew. In that case, why bother using vanilla Fighter and Ranger...
Awesome
D&D Slayer!]:P
He’s level 5 in the anime, not sixteen
Is that so? I'm actually curious, where does it say that?
I don't know man 16 seems a bit excessive, rising above 10th level you start to get into like... legendary heroes and emergent demi-god levels of power. Slayer is strong but he's not *that* strong. XD
Funny that you mention that, I actually bring up a very similar point in the redo build I'm uploading tomorrow.
I disagree on the main stats
I have a better version. Link is in the pinned comment.
GS also has a good vision in the dark
no, if he did then he wouldn't constantly use a torch
Also he actually says so himself when asked by priestess. He just has practiced and gotten so good at being able to envision the goblins in the dark, where he can just throw his shortsword into the dark and get a goblin in the throat