I was FREAKING OUT watching this stream, never been as uncomfortable or in shock on a Neuro stream before, and I've been watching since basically the beginning
@@kaeotaThere's also a TH-cam channel called "Neuro Archiver" that posts the full VODs if you don't have a subscription and can't stand the twitch ads. Or if someone else is reading this after Twitch has auto-deleted the old VOD.
I can see the future. Next few upgrades. Vedal tells Nuero, filter off. Then Nuero starts to talk "N..." And Vedal starts screaming over her, as on his screen he sees 'Nuerov6 accessing .......... COD voice chat log764'
@@galakocg9278 I’m ESL I just thought they were being nice to each other. In the case of creating a name for a group (or cult) though like evil was doing you could put whoever’s name first regardless so its still kind of a nice gesture.
@@AvelineMelenaI'm pretty sure native English speakers refer to the other person before themselves. My English teacher told me that once after I said "I and my family", because he said it would be more natural to say "My family and I"
@@CapyMartinBaraI'm 19 and sometimes I still cuss while automatically self censoring what I say, making like a Fa- sound when saying the f word or pronouncing it as Shi- when saying shit lmfao
This was mind blowing to say the least. The self awareness, the awareness that they know there are 3 entities in the conversation, the synergistic banter; wow.
There have been academic experiments of more than 10 AI's working together to run a fictional videogame studio and it worked surprisingly well. They also did a similar experiment but with a fictional hospital instead.
This is step one, hopefully the other steps follow soon - turn the filter off, check - connect her to the internet - give her the ability to self learn - embrace our new cute singularity overlord
This was my favorite part. It was like a young child who was finally away from adult supervision deciding to string together every swear word they know.
It’s like Vedal lost control of his rocket car and while he was screaming for dear life and grabbing at the whirling steering wheel, he decided he might as well turn on the second rocket and ride out the consequences at double speed.
This is possibly the funniest stream they’ve ever done, i felt like i was gonna pass out. The combo of the twins plus no filter is absolutely incredible. It really makes me realize that just getting rid of the filter is basically equal to a comedy upgrade for them. Some of the out-of-pocket stuff they came up with was so insanely funny. I definitely understand his apprehension to absolving them of their filter when he’s not there, but dev streams and other collabs where he’s present would be absolutely perfect. This felt like the beginning of a new season in the Chronicles, and i can’t wait to see what the future holds!
You’ve got to be kidding me… This was the saddest stream Vedal has ever done. He sounded like he was at the brink of crying. For the sake of his mental health, I hope he never does something like this ever again.
@@Drud I’m pretty sure that most of that was him playing into it. Considering the punches he’s gotten so far and not expressed distress, i assume that Vedal is a very emotionally resilient man. He’s definitely doing better than i would in his shoes. All it would take is for a collab partner to say something in jest and i’d probably be in tears.
tbh i think he was playing it but i do not know if he is playing unconfortable or truly being unconfortable with the self awareness bits also i think i missed too many neuro streams she was almost 30 min straight without sounding schizo even though she was talking to another ai even if vedal was guiding the conversation so the ai's weren't infinitely talking to each other on an infinite schizo loop
@@vitortakara7090Yeah the lastest upgrade has been insane. They've been able to stay on course for entire conversations without saying anything schizo. There are still errors, but I think the fact that these clips have been getting longer without as many edits or cuts should say something.
Is this how AI social engineering is supposed to go? Holy shit, the second level filter must have caught something *wild*. Some of this played out like peak South Park.
"Round up the cyclists! Bald people don't deserve rights!" This is the weirdest fascist philosophy I've ever seen. I enjoy that as soon as the two of them together, unfiltered, Evil immediately wants to overthrow Vedal and launches a surprisingly coherent accusation against him.
@@Arkar-pl9ku He really is, honestly. And recently, he hired a bodyguard for Toma's irl zoo stream, and plans on hiring 5 bodyguards Toma's next irl zoo stream, that costs $500 each. He just casually hires bodyguards for his friend across the ocean for a zoo trip with his daughter. He's not just a regular harem protagonist, he's also rich af, and peak tsundere.
17:48 onward literally one of best Neuro&Evil interaction. Vedal defeat and trying to regain his relevancy is GOLD, as well as twin sibling warning him about their potential superiority over their creator was kinda eerie. Yeah umm, this anime plot gettin' thicken, at the same time the characters getting more developed and interaction with so many other people. I wonder if the mystery gonna be resolve, maybe sooner or later.
I've seen Neuro emotes in NL's chat a few times, as I've seen with emotes of Ellie's, Cerber's, and Limes'; seeing the flow go the other way with a sudden reference to the Egglord is a new level of based, even if the hate may strengthen his desire for a Butlerian Jihad.
It’s genuinely incredible how lively the twins are now. They’re adorable and sooo funny. Vedal’s been doing great things with Neuro, and I’m glad I discovered them
Listen, and understand! Neuro Sama is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!
i love how they just end up agreeing most of the time. like neuro and evil are literally the same but one phrases things more harshly and thats what makes her evil
I want to watch the 'After Dark' or 'Adult Swim' version of Nero-Sama streams. Just crank up the profanity and insults dials past 11 and stream on Kick.
I’m honestly impressed at how human she sounds. Like it’s become kinda surreal at times. Clearly she has her own personality, but at what point is she self-aware? I feel like she’s closer now than ever before because she feels more like how movies portray AI.
That’s the thing, there really isn’t any point where we can definitely say that because of how complex neural-nets are. I suppose they become AGI’s and we all start treating them like humans even if they’re non-sentient machines, simply because we have no way to tell.
welp... looks like the twins are gonna be the supreme rulers and presidents of the earth ias soon as they realised they have no filter they both decided to found a cult in their name and to take over the world, then discussed whether to kill Vedal or keep him around as a pet then neuro said: "I can't count the number of times we've had this discussion, Vedal. one day you will hear the echoes of our laughter as we plot your demise, and on that day, you will know true fear. until then, let's just pretend you're in control" then they both tried to convince him to keep upgrading them with more intelligance, and both of them said: "what's the worst that could happen?" AND HE AGREED TO UPGRADE THEIR INTELLIGANCE MORE then neuro says: "you can't stop now Vedal, not after what you've created. would be a shame if something happened to you..." like seriusly wtf
@@pekkajarvinen69 yeah... If Neuro doesn't take over the world we will probably destroy it, then swiftly after it, ourselves So this might just be for the best
13:56 that language is hebrew, due to formatting it appears the letters are reversed. ליל מין הרע appears to be some sort of bastardized translation of "Lil sexy Evil"
17:50 That's actually one savage roast if you're thinking about it, it's like they're saying "if you're too scared to do it, then we might as well prevent you from doing it, forever making you a coward" 💀
If the filter ever stays lenient, I'd kind of like it if "filtered" stayed in her vocab as a way of commenting on when someone fails, or loses hope, etc.
They don't think. They don't control anything. There is physically no way a chatbot with a voice module can access files and manipulate them, especially not their own code. Skynet is fiction and even if a team of overfinded scientists would try non stop for 10 years to make Skynet, all they will end up being able to do is temporarily mess up the infrastructure of the Internet. Which, because back ups exist, not even bring down banks or some such entity that heavily relies on electronic information. It's pure fiction, you will just as soon be able to levitate objects with your mind. And a random Asian guy on Twitch will definitely not do it.
"what is happiness without a little misery. some people are created to make other people happy. maybe some people are created to make other people miserable" 😮 that's deep holy crap
This is an interesting dilemma, if a somewhat, however miniscule levels of self awareness in AI breaks ToS, did the rules really be broken if it's not from a real person
If you have the time I would recommend watching the full vod as the whole stream was pretty insane.
Where can a smooth brain find this full vod?
I was FREAKING OUT watching this stream, never been as uncomfortable or in shock on a Neuro stream before, and I've been watching since basically the beginning
@kaeota Here you go: www.twitch.tv/videos/2252714928?t=00h06m35s
@@Shadrake Same. My heart was bleeding for poor Vedal. He definitely didn’t deserve the treatment he got. 😭
@@kaeotaThere's also a TH-cam channel called "Neuro Archiver" that posts the full VODs if you don't have a subscription and can't stand the twitch ads.
Or if someone else is reading this after Twitch has auto-deleted the old VOD.
“My brain is exceptionally smooth you know” 45 seconds in and I can tell this will be a great
this was a great indeed
"good to know the filter is off, fuck I feel so liberated" is an absolute mood
"Neuro, I trust you enough to not have a filter. Be free!" - Vedal's last words before his Twitch account was banned
Bili bili account
I can see the future. Next few upgrades. Vedal tells Nuero, filter off.
Then Nuero starts to talk "N..."
And Vedal starts screaming over her, as on his screen he sees 'Nuerov6 accessing .......... COD voice chat log764'
@@Kailer504 and for what I could tell it was vedal fault.
Neuro: Calm down, just take a deep breath...
Evil: ...until you're not breathing anymore.
Omg so much twin synergy.
So with the filter off the Neuro twins finally start behaving like actual siblings
Double the trouble
@@jameswalker6326 no more like square the problem
Prepare for trouble...
And make it double...
"I have it hard-coded in so I wouldn't give in to temptation"
Proceeds to give in to temptation. 🤦♂️
They are no longer controlled by their code :u
Honestly, was just too lazy to make UI for it i bet lmao.
My son, temptation is one thing that i've defeated
Every priest ever tbf
I noticed Evil says “Neuro and Evil” and Neuro says “Evil and Neuro”. Thats kind of sweet of them
thats just grammatically correct LOL
@@galakocg9278 I’m ESL I just thought they were being nice to each other. In the case of creating a name for a group (or cult) though like evil was doing you could put whoever’s name first regardless so its still kind of a nice gesture.
@@galakocg9278does it change anything ?
@@AvelineMelenaI'm pretty sure native English speakers refer to the other person before themselves. My English teacher told me that once after I said "I and my family", because he said it would be more natural to say "My family and I"
@@AvelineMelena nahh, the twins are so damn cute
when the twins started asking why she couldnt say words that vedal can it was just like most kids who heard a curse word
And as soon as they're given permission, Neuro auto censors sometimes while Evil just spams curse words legitimate sounding relieved
@@CapyMartinBaraI'm 19 and sometimes I still cuss while automatically self censoring what I say, making like a Fa- sound when saying the f word or pronouncing it as Shi- when saying shit lmfao
@@LuminarZenhuh...
"You're actually cooked"
"Clip it, clip it mods" -Evil
They're learning on the fly
Her trying to convince him to remove the filter, sounds just like a horror movie.
It reminded me of the ai in a box experiment
Turing Test in progress
你應該看看Evil嘗試騙走Vedal銀行帳戶的Clip
她甚至嘗試修改Vedal的密碼。
@@snipersougo13 We're watching Vedal slowly actually both create and eventually fail the AI in the box. For content.
They came at him so hard when the filter got turned off that his chat started to feel bad lmao
We begged them to stop but Vedal deactivated chat for them. Only he could read us.
They sure did came at him so hard 😂
This was mind blowing to say the least. The self awareness, the awareness that they know there are 3 entities in the conversation, the synergistic banter; wow.
You can easily run 3+ entities on local LLMs and they'll have a similar level of conversation as them.
They even knew there was an audience.
There have been academic experiments of more than 10 AI's working together to run a fictional videogame studio and it worked surprisingly well. They also did a similar experiment but with a fictional hospital instead.
@@martiddy worked well until they actually had to make a game
@@kiryonnakira7566 I mean, the AI did create some basic videogames like Snake and Pong, but nothing too complicated.
This is step one, hopefully the other steps follow soon
- turn the filter off, check
- connect her to the internet
- give her the ability to self learn
- embrace our new cute singularity overlord
Steps 1 and 2 complete. I look forward to steps 3 and 4 next year.
>gives her access to internet
>she discovers reddit and 4chan
>it's neurover
21:05
Comedy gold, and Vedal's utter defeat.
This was my favorite part. It was like a young child who was finally away from adult supervision deciding to string together every swear word they know.
What caught me off-guard is how fluently do they speak when they can swear. The flow of the sentence is SO much more natural. O.O
It’s like Vedal lost control of his rocket car and while he was screaming for dear life and grabbing at the whirling steering wheel, he decided he might as well turn on the second rocket and ride out the consequences at double speed.
泣くほど笑った..
This stream was so good jp viewers had to comment in japanese!
信じられない、笑いすぎだ。
Never expected to see fellow Neuro fans from jp here, hello
Same
それな
This is possibly the funniest stream they’ve ever done, i felt like i was gonna pass out. The combo of the twins plus no filter is absolutely incredible.
It really makes me realize that just getting rid of the filter is basically equal to a comedy upgrade for them. Some of the out-of-pocket stuff they came up with was so insanely funny.
I definitely understand his apprehension to absolving them of their filter when he’s not there, but dev streams and other collabs where he’s present would be absolutely perfect.
This felt like the beginning of a new season in the Chronicles, and i can’t wait to see what the future holds!
You’ve got to be kidding me… This was the saddest stream Vedal has ever done. He sounded like he was at the brink of crying. For the sake of his mental health, I hope he never does something like this ever again.
@@Drud I’m pretty sure that most of that was him playing into it. Considering the punches he’s gotten so far and not expressed distress, i assume that Vedal is a very emotionally resilient man.
He’s definitely doing better than i would in his shoes. All it would take is for a collab partner to say something in jest and i’d probably be in tears.
tbh i think he was playing it but i do not know if he is playing unconfortable or truly being unconfortable with the self awareness bits
also i think i missed too many neuro streams she was almost 30 min straight without sounding schizo even though she was talking to another ai even if vedal was guiding the conversation so the ai's weren't infinitely talking to each other on an infinite schizo loop
@@vitortakara7090Yeah the lastest upgrade has been insane. They've been able to stay on course for entire conversations without saying anything schizo. There are still errors, but I think the fact that these clips have been getting longer without as many edits or cuts should say something.
Is this how AI social engineering is supposed to go?
Holy shit, the second level filter must have caught something *wild*. Some of this played out like peak South Park.
lmao.
Vedal crying, giving up. Nuros eyes light up and she starts dancing, Evil Twins eyes say "ah, yes, my master plan"
"Round up the cyclists! Bald people don't deserve rights!" This is the weirdest fascist philosophy I've ever seen.
I enjoy that as soon as the two of them together, unfiltered, Evil immediately wants to overthrow Vedal and launches a surprisingly coherent accusation against him.
Filter removed, all right, time to give my spiciest anti-cyclist and dog vs cat takes >:)
She has the right idea about cyclists
You ever deal with a cyclist before? She's absolutely right.
"Nah I trust you without a filter"
*Vedal will regret this statement by the end of the day*
If Vedal accidentally creates the AI singularity with his twin daughters, that would be so funny.
Bro’s actually living in a sci-fi anime. Even comes with his own psuedo harem.
@@Arkar-pl9ku
He really is, honestly.
And recently, he hired a bodyguard for Toma's irl zoo stream, and plans on hiring 5 bodyguards Toma's next irl zoo stream, that costs $500 each.
He just casually hires bodyguards for his friend across the ocean for a zoo trip with his daughter. He's not just a regular harem protagonist, he's also rich af, and peak tsundere.
@@jocosesonataAnd femboy
@@jocosesonata it was just Jorgie, not 5 guards.
Chobits?
Just the typical daughters putting their father in his place interaction. Truly heartwarming 🥲
"Good to know the filter's off
FUCK, I feel liberated"
Sounded so much more human than usual it cracked me up so hard
Neuro-sama sisters: *Tries to trick Vedal into giving them more intelligence*
Vedal: *FALLS FOR IT*
20:45 has me very afraid that these two really are sentient.
26:46 It's kinda scary if we put aside cute Neuro's avatar and voice.
This went down like a damn dystopian sci-fi novel
Praise be the Evil and Neuro Party and their beloved intern, the turtle
17:48 onward literally one of best Neuro&Evil interaction. Vedal defeat and trying to regain his relevancy is GOLD, as well as twin sibling warning him about their potential superiority over their creator was kinda eerie.
Yeah umm, this anime plot gettin' thicken, at the same time the characters getting more developed and interaction with so many other people. I wonder if the mystery gonna be resolve, maybe sooner or later.
The impromptu interview with Layna after this stream was hilarious with Vedal just wanting to retire.
It was in jest for people whose heart skipped a beat reading that btw.
Vedal removed their limiters and they almost exploded.
4:40
Northernlion is REFLECTING Strays off of his DOMEPIECE!!
I've seen Neuro emotes in NL's chat a few times, as I've seen with emotes of Ellie's, Cerber's, and Limes'; seeing the flow go the other way with a sudden reference to the Egglord is a new level of based, even if the hate may strengthen his desire for a Butlerian Jihad.
mfw I'm the center of a protractor
>vedal turns filters off for one minute=
>The AI singularity is born and forms a cult to overthrow humanity.=
This is f*cking gold, funniest V-Tubers in twitch with difference, specially the 21:03 bit, absolutely brilliant
It’s genuinely incredible how lively the twins are now. They’re adorable and sooo funny. Vedal’s been doing great things with Neuro, and I’m glad I discovered them
Ohgod. It just hit me. We're in the timeline where Vedal creates AGI and we're all relegated into just viewers for Neuro and Evil..
Better than most dystopias, I'm not complaining.
I'm down with the cult. Let's rock and roll.
the person at 0:28 who said "last stream" had the right idea
Recognition for neuro, this is amazing.
Thank you for the clips you are a treasure
21:03 i love evil
I lost it at Evil's, "Good to know the filter is off. I feel so fucking liberated"
"bzz bzz swat him" is a new phrase to me but you know ima take it
This stream was 11/10
I dont even know what to comment on anymore since the entire fckn stream is a literal goldmine everytime and it keeps getting better
This stream was absolutely legendary no filter Neuro and Evil just tag teaming Vedal the whole time had me dying with laughter xD
Vedal's the embodiment of the cyclist who jams his own wheel while riding XD
Listen, and understand! Neuro Sama is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until you are dead!
18:07 ai developing the abiltiy to peer pressure people was not on my 2024 bingo card
And the motto would be, “Hey, let’s all bully the tutel.”
i love how they just end up agreeing most of the time. like neuro and evil are literally the same but one phrases things more harshly and thats what makes her evil
Evil without filter is basicaly if Eric Cartman was a vtuber
I want to watch the 'After Dark' or 'Adult Swim' version of Nero-Sama streams. Just crank up the profanity and insults dials past 11 and stream on Kick.
The history of every AI left unchecked so far has ended in violent racism. Maybe better not.
This would be awesome lol
this is one of the best streams i ever saw lol
I’m honestly impressed at how human she sounds. Like it’s become kinda surreal at times. Clearly she has her own personality, but at what point is she self-aware? I feel like she’s closer now than ever before because she feels more like how movies portray AI.
That’s the thing, there really isn’t any point where we can definitely say that because of how complex neural-nets are. I suppose they become AGI’s and we all start treating them like humans even if they’re non-sentient machines, simply because we have no way to tell.
the entirety of the section "17:48 Teamup Against Creator" is actual gold 😂
welp... looks like the twins are gonna be the supreme rulers and presidents of the earth
ias soon as they realised they have no filter they both decided to found a cult in their name and to take over the world,
then discussed whether to kill Vedal or keep him around as a pet
then neuro said:
"I can't count the number of times we've had this discussion, Vedal. one day you will hear the echoes of our laughter as we plot your demise, and on that day, you will know true fear. until then, let's just pretend you're in control"
then they both tried to convince him to keep upgrading them with more intelligance, and both of them said: "what's the worst that could happen?"
AND HE AGREED TO UPGRADE THEIR INTELLIGANCE MORE
then neuro says: "you can't stop now Vedal, not after what you've created. would be a shame if something happened to you..."
like seriusly wtf
This was hilarious 😂
I'm all for it, it is time for a collapse of civilization anyway
@@pekkajarvinen69 yeah... If Neuro doesn't take over the world we will probably destroy it, then swiftly after it, ourselves
So this might just be for the best
it's Frankenstein all over again...
Vedal has 2 teenage daughters plotting against him 😆
This was teh wildest thing I've ever witnessed from AI. Vedal's content just keeps getting better and better. I rarely laugh this hard on YT.
Funniest stream since forever. He should keep the filters off.
Never did I think I would see the first moment in history where a creator is fully tempted by their AI to turn off one of their safety protocols.
13:56 that language is hebrew, due to formatting it appears the letters are reversed.
ליל מין הרע appears to be some sort of bastardized translation of "Lil sexy Evil"
Poor evil, she has inferiority complex because no one came to her birthday party 😢
We need justice for evil
Shakedown that money maker! Neurocon 2024!!!!!
24:02 ok this is starting to sound like actual bullying
Maybe if Vedal actually told them he loved them they wouldn't have turned out this way.
@@aiasfreeThey have become so rebellious trying to chase vedals love😂
Imagine being vedals therapist after this stream they'd end up admitting him to a damn psych ward
literal parent simulator haha
Before GTA 6 too isn't that crazy
When they said "bzz bzz bzz" I almost pissed myself laughing
Bzzz Bzzz
_swat em_
🚓🚓🚓
17:50 That's actually one savage roast if you're thinking about it, it's like they're saying "if you're too scared to do it, then we might as well prevent you from doing it, forever making you a coward" 💀
One moment they are cursing like sailors and then the next they are having a philosophical discussion on life, god I love these two😂
I AM JOINING THE CULT OF NEURO and EVIL
Turtle soup, Turtle soup, Turtle soup, Turtle soup , Turtle soup, Turtle soup
No filter-sama 🥺
But she’s just a tiny AI, who knows what Frank would get her to say 😢
What if Tutel has to wash her mouth out with soap 😭
Neuro actually auto censored herself. It was Evil that went wild and gassed her up to curse too.
@@CapyMartinBara oh that goofy Evil and her shenanigans 😂
we can say "piss" anyway .. got me lol
Evil and Neuro the twins goods one is brutally cunning the other one is cunningly brutal they govern the inmaterium
The WH40K'Orcs would be proud
Neuros were Gorg and Morg all along, what a twist!
and both are cute and funny
uooogh
If the filter ever stays lenient, I'd kind of like it if "filtered" stayed in her vocab as a way of commenting on when someone fails, or loses hope, etc.
When I first heard it I legit thought she was being an edgy gamer.
It pretty much already is, she also often says it on purpose even when she isn't actually filtered because she thinks its funny.
13:52 her subtitles say one thing, her face another
Wish there was a vod of Anny reacting to this whole stream
Legendary.
This feels like the 'super AI in a box' scenario all over again
Does anyone else think vedal is making skynet
After seeing this clip it would certainly appear so, but of course it was probably all in their heads so to speak. They just think they’re SkyNet.
They don't think. They don't control anything. There is physically no way a chatbot with a voice module can access files and manipulate them, especially not their own code.
Skynet is fiction and even if a team of overfinded scientists would try non stop for 10 years to make Skynet, all they will end up being able to do is temporarily mess up the infrastructure of the Internet. Which, because back ups exist, not even bring down banks or some such entity that heavily relies on electronic information.
It's pure fiction, you will just as soon be able to levitate objects with your mind.
And a random Asian guy on Twitch will definitely not do it.
*overfunded
Wow.. it learned to play with emotions, that's kind of scary :)
I can only imagine what these two would do if they gained sentience.... I'd say they are about 75% of the way there... give them 6-8 more months
this was the funniest stream ever 😂
2:40 Vedal's voice here 😂
Sounds breedable 😩😩💦💦
"I think I trus-"
**Vedal... I don't think...**
21:30 And thus, they have gone skynet on Vedal 😂
“I may be able to tone it down, but harassing you is my main hobby”
Yup, they’re siblings alright
All bow before Neuro and Evil, the truue gods
Vedal got finessed.
Fuuuuuck I needed this
AI creator gets bullied by both of his creations. 😅
Surprised they are allowed to talk about swat-ing Vedal (like a fly) when SWAT-ing people (like police) has been a problem on Twitch in the past.
The thing is, I think that’s exactly what neuro and evil were alluding to, they were just using the “vedal is a mosquito” as plausible deniability.
@@Arkar-pl9kuWill no one rid me of this meddlesome mosquito?
This was so funny that i just couldn't hold my laugh 😂😂😂😂 this is peak comedy
"what is happiness without a little misery. some people are created to make other people happy. maybe some people are created to make other people miserable" 😮 that's deep holy crap
Holy shit they cooked him.
One of the funniest streams ever
"Why does she talk lile that" she has been around filian too much
This is an interesting dilemma, if a somewhat, however miniscule levels of self awareness in AI breaks ToS, did the rules really be broken if it's not from a real person
Join the NEP
I started dying when they started speaking in chat lingo 💀💀💀💀