Well put, I worked with Ladizinsky before all of the fanfare and I remember his thirst for knowledge in physics. He worked with Phd's who had far more formal education than he, but he blew them out the water with his enthusiasm and love for the discipline. However, you're right as Lazinskiy is digging into a realm of intelligence that is not of God, and very dark, but will have a vast capability that will launch a technology that will kill freedom. Technology & Freedom are incompatible.
Looks as though transhumanism is right around the corner. Have you ever watched/listened to the video of Geordie Rose explaining the just of what they were actually doing?
@@leavingayeye5198 ahhh i figured out why, I was saying a word that the algorythm doesn't want people to know. I do beleive I know, it has something to do with the movie venom if you catch my drift?. Lol
@@leavingayeye5198 I'am glad I'm not the only one who understand's/ comprehends what's really going on. Have you check ouyt geordie Rose quantum D- wave computer video on the old youtube yet?.
@@thedronefactoryusa79 Your sense of self is in a quantum state that is triggered by biological signals fed from the mind about the current compositional elements of your surrounding. You can identify and classify these with whichever system of language you want, process and execute course of action expressed in magnitudes of perception constraints called beneficial
"Ladizinsky is, by any measure, a person of extremely high intelligence. But like many such people throughout history, Ladizinsky fails to have the foresight to recognize the full implications of the technology he's building. And those implications are so far-reaching and dangerous that they may actually lead to the destruction of humanity." Laron
The Bible tells us that if Jesus didn't come back like He said He would, there would be no one left upon the earth. This video, in part, explains why the Bible lets us know this ahead of time.
@ 5:08 .. "you're technologically accessing these parallel universes and this is something that humans are not being able to do...." Well, this belief might the CORE of why a guy like Eric Ladizinsky choose to jump into this technoworld instead of simply trying to understand that accessing those parallel universes are a very common thing that you can experience in dreams, meditation and psychic concentration, or whatever you want to call an inner experience with this so called "outside world".
Am I mistaken or is this just about EGO? As "I am really smart and THIS research is both challenging and exciting and I am not caring about outcome if the products got into the wrong hands..." OR am I just paranoid?
even just from a business side of things this is amazing i hope this is how future industries are run, great people working together towards completely unknown new scientific information that will help us understand physics and how we can control it, we need more of this, and the reason it got built was because it was designed and research in by people who love physics, i hope you dont just stop at d wave, and quantum computing, quantum science is our most valuable resource
@@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020 it wont, it will just enhance us, it cant take us over when it has no directive other than tasks we give it, unless you mean the way a hammer and axe made human hands "obsolete".
@@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020 yer? In what way would something that computes make us obsolete? It computes task we give it, thats it. Wether it does it in binary or colapsing super positions it canculates input. Even AI we tell it in what intelengence to have for very specific tasks. Fail to see in what way it would make us obsolete
Oh my gosh this is so entirely fascinating I was in electronics and computer science all my life I’ve recently retired and the thought that current can go in both directions at the same time is mind blowing -I have to be able to figure out and understand how this is done
Dude, I was reading this book and bam I created this company because I was at starbucks in silicon valley and after I used 2 buzz words with quantum and parallel universe and I dropped a few names some venture capitalist got impressed.
yep..... you re blessed with discernment. These "scientists" are just wizards, warlocks , and magicians getting supernatural wisdom from demons, and fallen angels.
Inspirational, makes me wanna work harder on my projects. Fascinating story, nothing ever gets done with government control. This is a prime example of the free market in action.
Interesting stuff. 11 years ago was early 2014. I remember talking to a guy doing a research project for DOD at Kansas State University in about 2002ish. He was talking about quantum computers to me back then. I wonder if the Australian/New Zealander?? Is still in that community.
How is it "superposition at the macro scale" for an object to have electrons moving in two different directions at once? Electrons are quantum objects.
If D-Wave exhibits entanglement then it's possible to conduct a time machine experiment using it. Two entangled particles communicating spin faster than "c" separated by space/time. Not implying that it would or wouldn't succeed, just merely that it should be possible.
Sal, the book of Nielson & Chuang is primarily about "Universal Gate Model QM". But this is a completely different path using "Adiabatic quantum computer", which is an entirely different beast to build. Don't confuse the two.
Deliverables makes me remember PMBOK. Creativity can't be tamed. Management frameworks are ideal for taming failed stuff to be considered big successful accomplishments in the event of not.
This technology should be in the hands of people, not to sell it for money not knowing what really do with it! Mr. Ladizinsky, It is your responsibility in first place!
You managed to be the only guy who watched this video to walk away pissed. The guy basically spent 30 minutes not only telling you why that wouldn't work, but giving you a live real world comparison of the two approaches. He literally built his company on the idea that a profit driven approach would blow away academia. And it did.
TheDamnSpot Dear Damn Spot, I really enjoy the interview, was very very inspiring and I totaly agree, that academia approach is not working, as was described by Eric in video. What I´m trying to tell is, that this D-Wave quantum computer is maybe the most dangerous weapon, and if it sell for money to anyone, who we do not know, what will use it for and there is something really dangerous and bad. But of course, it is not the mistake of Eric Ladizinsky, but his story is similar to IronMan movie. If Stark star to sell IronMan suit for money, it will be very dangerous, don´t you think? I hope, that now you will understand me much better. Wish you only the best!
***** Oh, okay. I understand what you're saying. Still don't agree though. Look at nuclear science. Sure, it brought us the atomic bomb, the cold war and an ever pervasive fear of rogue states and terrorists with WMDs. On the other hand it's also helped us create the modern PC, MRIs, treat cancer, power space vehicles, create particle colliders and on and on... Nuclear science is the foundation on which the modern world rests. Really useful stuff is... really useful. Both to good and evil people. Always fearing and restricting things that *could* be used for evil purposes rarely does any good. It just creates a black market for them and makes it harder for honest people to reap benefits from their use.
TheDamnSpot Yeah, but if we know that, had this expirence from the past, then we have to do the best to use the technology for good, to develop even better and usefull techologies. But if you see on D-Wave, all is behind the scene, we only know that NSA and Google, so the company that has all our data and other one want all data use it for something. Let not be blind, this is not good. What we are talking here is two things, and if we´ll melt them together, we are childish. 1. Thing is: Absolutly amazing thing was produce, that was only in sci-fi. Astonishing effort ... 2. How it will be use, for what? Yeah, unfortunatelly, if you produce something so briliant and ahed, you have to think about it in first place.
Josephson junction eh? a dielectric sandwiched between a super conducting pair of plates allows for current to come into the metal from the dielectric in both directions simultaneously, but its not going the full circle... its coming from the dielectric out to the ends... Would like to see the datasheet on how this actually works in practice...
Randomly came across your video. Sounds like a fun position. Quick question: by parallel dimensions, are you referring to hemispheres of the brain? Seemingly, by the logo, you are singling out a 5d shape to a single side analog of the brain.
So we are only viewing at this time the Rendering portion of this reality, and the quantum portion of reality is where conciseness resides. So we are renderings of decisions made in the quantum universe ?
... who else is currently trying to find out every thing they possibly can on quantum computers? imagine how much less of this want to learn all about science before the Internet (even though trying to learn how quatum computers fully work is a bit more extreme than the general public), and think how long this has been going on for, imagine the massive science Renascence we are about to go through. i think that just from the internet alone we will learn far more in 150 years than we think we wil
Thank you³ -Ladizinsky.⁶ for the talk. Any resemblance s to one(s) static or nonstatic, living and or nonliving is a quantum coincidence. Earthly sol³⁶⁶ discernment and discretion advised.
Are we seeing the program delayed by a shift that has, indeed programmed the reality we are in now? When we talk of things such as Mandela Effects are we subtly aware that the Source code may have been hijacked to provide the ultimate thrill of time travel within this dimension proceeding beyond the code as written by observation?
So ur melting material to produce superconductive properties and adding current “only” clockwise and then (also) counterclockwise and that’s a quebit which somehow allows for building “quantum computers” ? I’ve only seen this fuckery of jargon speak on finance circles. I might be wrong but this stinks of b.s all the way from there
Seriously.....scary stuff......I think, more people should take interest in this stuff.....I can see terminator all over. I totally agree with Danilo.....
If you are paranoid about this, you are wasting the creativity available in your own head. I already manipulate multiple dimensional spacetime. I don't even own a Dwave. Newsflash, we all do.
Scott Aaronson is a confirmed gadfly!. You should read the opinions of real experts in quantum computing, such as his colleague, Dr. Seth Lloyd, in his own Physics Dept. Please read his quote in their own MIT Technology Review, which can be found in the May 16, 2013 issue. Thanks.
what if all waves do not collapse, but break down Infinitely? also, according to entanglement, since we can see and measure reality that means there is an equal but opposite measurement somewhere?
Very interesting talk but why did they have to flip his face every few seconds? It was so distracting, I had to minimize the window so I could listen to just the audio..
It seems Schrodinger's cat just never gets any respect. Imagine you are the cat. When you're alive, you know you're alive. Wouldn't it seem that your own consciousness, on your own and separate from the observers outside the box dictate that you are existing in a material state only?
*Deleted Terminator: Judgement day related sick joke* But seriously, we can now save our currencies without the encryption part? Because it will be broken in a second. It would be more easy, lower cost hahaha
Well put, I worked with Ladizinsky before all of the fanfare and I remember his thirst for knowledge in physics. He worked with Phd's who had far more formal education than he, but he blew them out the water with his enthusiasm and love for the discipline. However, you're right as Lazinskiy is digging into a realm of intelligence that is not of God, and very dark, but will have a vast capability that will launch a technology that will kill freedom. Technology & Freedom are incompatible.
Call him Eric it sounds funny when u call him by his last name, it doesn’t really round off the 👅 does it now🤪
Technology and Freedom Are Incompatible: The Rise of AI. It would make a great paper. Any chance you’d be interested in writing something like that?
🤣 🤣 🤣
@@JoseRodriguezFrio Laugh now, cry later...
Why?
This is among the most fascinating vids that I have ever seen on TH-cam. Thank you for posting it.
Goldman Sachs? DARPA? I hope you'll feel extremely satisfied when the first qubit-controlled robot takes down its first human.
Looks as though transhumanism is right around the corner. Have you ever watched/listened to the video of Geordie Rose explaining the just of what they were actually doing?
@@leavingayeye5198 not sure if any reply i have sent has posted on your end?. Say's 2 reply's when i go back and check to see if it posted or not .
@@leavingayeye5198 ahhh i figured out why, I was saying a word that the algorythm doesn't want people to know. I do beleive I know, it has something to do with the movie venom if you catch my drift?. Lol
Graph %$ e ***** n ***e
@@leavingayeye5198 I'am glad I'm not the only one who understand's/ comprehends what's really going on. Have you check ouyt geordie Rose quantum D- wave computer video on the old youtube yet?.
You have to remember the human mind is also a quantum computer !
Except we have limits.
We are like an infant conpared to this....
@@seanomanary5691 more precisely, according to Geordie Rose, like ants. That's comforting, huh.. 🙄
How so?
@@thedronefactoryusa79 Your sense of self is in a quantum state that is triggered by biological signals fed from the mind about the current compositional elements of your surrounding. You can identify and classify these with whichever system of language you want, process and execute course of action expressed in magnitudes of perception constraints called beneficial
Eric Ladizinsky and Geordie Rose. What a meeting of minds! These two guys are such unpretentious intellects. I could listen to them all day.
I can hear the Terminator theme in my head as he speaks....
@music man Du, nuh nuhhhhh, nuh nuh nuhhhh, du nuh nuhhh nuhhh Nuhhhhhhhh 🎶🎵
"Ladizinsky is, by any measure, a person of extremely high intelligence. But like many such people throughout history, Ladizinsky fails to have the foresight to recognize the full implications of the technology he's building. And those implications are so far-reaching and dangerous that they may actually lead to the destruction of humanity."
Laron
Impossible. Just like the ancient kings together, building Babylon to the heavens...God wil not allow such hubris
What's with these cheesy self-quotes?
The Bible tells us that if Jesus didn't come back like He said He would, there would be no one left upon the earth. This video, in part, explains why the Bible lets us know this ahead of time.
@FJ S they get off on thinking they know something that no1 else does... but they actually dunno sh!t
Romans 1:22 Though they were wise, they became fools...
I don't like the way he quantum tunnels from the left to the right of the screen.
:))) short synopsis!
It's disorienting and a bit disconcerting isn't it?
But what a great analogy.
Super interesting and inspiring story. Thanks for that Mr. Ladizinsky!
Curious if any of the entities from the other realms have communicated with you?
@ 5:08 .. "you're technologically accessing these parallel universes and this is something that humans are not being able to do...."
Well, this belief might the CORE of why a guy like Eric Ladizinsky choose to jump into this technoworld instead of simply trying to understand that accessing those parallel universes are a very common thing that you can experience in dreams, meditation and psychic concentration, or whatever you want to call an inner experience with this so called "outside world".
There are many different entities and beings in many different realms...They choose who they communicate with..Science hates that...
Why is he building something to replace humanity? This guy is pure evil him and his sponsers. Let nature be and live.
He’s not evil👹
What are the odds it's already happened and we are in effect living in the past or another created artificial "reality"?
@@kingdomcome1617 Bingo.
Very cool.. Keep up the great work !
Am I mistaken or is this just about EGO? As "I am really smart and THIS research is both challenging and exciting and I am not caring about outcome if the products got into the wrong hands..." OR am I just paranoid?
Scary and brilliant simultaneously.
One can access parallel universes while dreaming
Brains are superior quantum computers
And not let shite into this level in doing so!!!
Or astral projecting.
Everyone needs to watch this video. Tell anyone you know that can understand it!!!!!
Quantum Computers are the new Ouija Board .. except even more dangerous.
even just from a business side of things this is amazing i hope this is how future industries are run, great people working together towards completely unknown new scientific information that will help us understand physics and how we can control it, we need more of this, and the reason it got built was because it was designed and research in by people who love physics, i hope you dont just stop at d wave, and quantum computing, quantum science is our most valuable resource
It’s going to make u obsolete. Still excited?!?
@@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020 it wont, it will just enhance us, it cant take us over when it has no directive other than tasks we give it, unless you mean the way a hammer and axe made human hands "obsolete".
teemoIRL I’m talking about AI and quantum computers like d-wave.
@@enlightenedinterstellarbei8020 yer? In what way would something that computes make us obsolete? It computes task we give it, thats it. Wether it does it in binary or colapsing super positions it canculates input. Even AI we tell it in what intelengence to have for very specific tasks. Fail to see in what way it would make us obsolete
teemoIRL True AI evolves and there is no “delete” option.
There are very few videos I watched with this perfect attention.
I like the way this guy thinks.
FireBIaze me too! Listened to it four or five times
"I got twenty million dollars. Hire your dream team. Let's go!"
How am I just finding this shit now. I got a lot of reading to do
Oh my gosh this is so entirely fascinating I was in electronics and computer science all my life I’ve recently retired and the thought that current can go in both directions at the same time is mind blowing -I have to be able to figure out and understand how this is done
It doesn't. It just means they can't tell the direction for qm reasons.
Dude, I was reading this book and bam I created this company because I was at starbucks in silicon valley and after I used 2 buzz words with quantum and parallel universe and I dropped a few names some venture capitalist got impressed.
Theoretical physics. The micro-world. How many demons on the head of a pin? Creepy stuff. Keep a hymn handy.
yep..... you re blessed with discernment. These "scientists" are just wizards, warlocks , and magicians getting supernatural wisdom from demons, and fallen angels.
In the name of jesus, god save us from this. Amen 🙏🏽🕊
10 million dollars is awful slim funding. Intel throws around billions.
amen.
Amen!
@@reeceallawatt1551 amen is omen !!!
Already wayyyy too late.
Christ did that for you, as he knew that man's intent is way more dark than you think...
Inspirational, makes me wanna work harder on my projects. Fascinating story, nothing ever gets done with government control. This is a prime example of the free market in action.
Interesting stuff. 11 years ago was early 2014. I remember talking to a guy doing a research project for DOD at Kansas State University in about 2002ish. He was talking about quantum computers to me back then. I wonder if the Australian/New Zealander?? Is still in that community.
This is too much. Reaching into super position states and other realities this will not end good !!
Well, now we have the Mandela Effect phenomenon...
We are just catching up to the greater reality... IMO the "end" could have already happened.
@Nott Nice How so?
How is it "superposition at the macro scale" for an object to have electrons moving in two different directions at once? Electrons are quantum objects.
If D-Wave exhibits entanglement then it's possible to conduct a time machine experiment using it. Two entangled particles communicating spin faster than "c" separated by space/time. Not implying that it would or wouldn't succeed, just merely that it should be possible.
Sal, the book of Nielson & Chuang is primarily about "Universal Gate Model QM". But this is a completely different path using "Adiabatic quantum computer", which is an entirely different beast to build. Don't confuse the two.
"I got twenty million dollars. Hire your dream team. Let's go!"
Deliverables makes me remember PMBOK. Creativity can't be tamed. Management frameworks are ideal for taming failed stuff to be considered big successful accomplishments in the event of not.
I wanna be a part of this team and project
This technology should be in the hands of people, not to sell it for money not knowing what really do with it! Mr. Ladizinsky, It is your responsibility in first place!
You managed to be the only guy who watched this video to walk away pissed. The guy basically spent 30 minutes not only telling you why that wouldn't work, but giving you a live real world comparison of the two approaches. He literally built his company on the idea that a profit driven approach would blow away academia. And it did.
TheDamnSpot
Dear Damn Spot, I really enjoy the interview, was very very inspiring and I totaly agree, that academia approach is not working, as was described by Eric in video.
What I´m trying to tell is, that this D-Wave quantum computer is maybe the most dangerous weapon, and if it sell for money to anyone, who we do not know, what will use it for and there is something really dangerous and bad. But of course, it is not the mistake of Eric Ladizinsky, but his story is similar to IronMan movie. If Stark star to sell IronMan suit for money, it will be very dangerous, don´t you think?
I hope, that now you will understand me much better. Wish you only the best!
*****
Oh, okay. I understand what you're saying. Still don't agree though. Look at nuclear science. Sure, it brought us the atomic bomb, the cold war and an ever pervasive fear of rogue states and terrorists with WMDs. On the other hand it's also helped us create the modern PC, MRIs, treat cancer, power space vehicles, create particle colliders and on and on... Nuclear science is the foundation on which the modern world rests. Really useful stuff is... really useful. Both to good and evil people. Always fearing and restricting things that *could* be used for evil purposes rarely does any good. It just creates a black market for them and makes it harder for honest people to reap benefits from their use.
TheDamnSpot
Yeah, but if we know that, had this expirence from the past, then we have to do the best to use the technology for good, to develop even better and usefull techologies.
But if you see on D-Wave, all is behind the scene, we only know that NSA and Google, so the company that has all our data and other one want all data use it for something. Let not be blind, this is not good. What we are talking here is two things, and if we´ll melt them together, we are childish.
1. Thing is: Absolutly amazing thing was produce, that was only in sci-fi. Astonishing effort ...
2. How it will be use, for what? Yeah, unfortunatelly, if you produce something so briliant and ahed, you have to think about it in first place.
***** your profile picture reinforces the authority in this comment
As far as I'm concerned, Eric should be nominated for the Nobel Prize in physics!.
Sol Warda Will not happen, to much attention towards this and the masses will start to wake up.
@@mikemalliamusic some already have
Josephson junction eh? a dielectric sandwiched between a super conducting pair of plates allows for current to come into the metal from the dielectric in both directions simultaneously, but its not going the full circle... its coming from the dielectric out to the ends... Would like to see the datasheet on how this actually works in practice...
Don't do it Eric, thank you
My daughter is in college for art but was aproched to take quantium mechanics. Never realized how smart she is
Randomly came across your video. Sounds like a fun position. Quick question: by parallel dimensions, are you referring to hemispheres of the brain? Seemingly, by the logo, you are singling out a 5d shape to a single side analog of the brain.
So we are only viewing at this time the Rendering portion of this reality, and the quantum portion of reality is where conciseness resides. So we are renderings of decisions made in the quantum universe ?
Fascinating interview!
... who else is currently trying to find out every thing they possibly can on quantum computers? imagine how much less of this want to learn all about science before the Internet (even though trying to learn how quatum computers fully work is a bit more extreme than the general public), and think how long this has been going on for, imagine the massive science Renascence we are about to go through. i think that just from the internet alone we will learn far more in 150 years than we think we wil
this is so cool of a story, Eric seems like a genius of one of a kind
This needs to be a TED-X talk.
what's that symbol on his shirt?
WOW! I'm really inspired! Thanks Erik
that was great.i totally enjoyed that.
Humanity is toast in less than 100 years
Just WOW!
Thank you³ -Ladizinsky.⁶ for the talk.
Any resemblance s to one(s) static or nonstatic, living and or nonliving is a quantum coincidence. Earthly sol³⁶⁶ discernment and discretion advised.
Are we seeing the program delayed by a shift that has, indeed programmed the reality we are in now?
When we talk of things such as Mandela Effects are we subtly aware that the Source code may have been hijacked to provide the ultimate thrill of time travel within this dimension proceeding beyond the code as written by observation?
Eric: Awesome talk, Stonybrook has done incredible stuff
What peer-reviewed scientific paper is this "speed-up of up to 15 times faster than the D-Wave Two" is it published in?
Give me a roundtrip ticket into the next dimension..........what's the interferometer resononance frequency, Kenneth?
Made me want to watch “Terminator “
Wow. Just awesome.
yoyo ill talk to you in the future....
Useful
Quantum Journey - D-Wave Chief Scientist, Eric Ladizinsky
Break encryption. Humanity needs transparency ;)
no, youd have no privacy ever, not even your own thoughts.
I dont know if the D-WAVE computer is operational or not, there is opinions either way.
Incredible Job love Chino!
Mind blown
One acesse parallel universes w dreaming
Great story
what about at room temperature?
It wouldn't work at all.
My intuitive nature !
Solid!
Top KEK!
Maybe the whole world is a quantum computer.
Maybe we were created to find the ultimate question!
I love this guy.
this is amazing
Is it just me or is the google search like 10x faster as of recent, I wonder if their new quantum computer has anything to do with it.
Likely AI
Why?
Newt0rz: I don't have any issues with that!!. I totally agree with you.
So ur melting material to produce superconductive properties and adding current “only” clockwise and then (also) counterclockwise and that’s a quebit which somehow allows for building “quantum computers” ? I’ve only seen this fuckery of jargon speak on finance circles. I might be wrong but this stinks of b.s all the way from there
Man, that's over 5 years ago, and since then things have moved a light year ahead. Have you been asleep ALL that time. Be contemporary man.
Why do you think that?
He reminds me of a T-800.
what is the T-800
I was thinking the T850
@@annawojcik2941 it's an Uncle Bob or Gaurdian Pops... also know as the Model 101, T-101, The Arnold... or simply, THE TERMINATOR
Eh, more of a TI-83 looking guy to me
Time to Assemble the Avengers and reverse the snap!
dam we going to slide
and all this time the center of attention is still in CERN
Seriously.....scary stuff......I think, more people should take interest in this stuff.....I can see terminator all over. I totally agree with Danilo.....
Dreaming is one way,to acesse parallel universes
he is dennis quaids half brother
If you are paranoid about this, you are wasting the creativity available in your own head. I already manipulate multiple dimensional spacetime. I don't even own a Dwave. Newsflash, we all do.
Scott Aaronson is a confirmed gadfly!. You should read the opinions of real experts in quantum computing, such as his colleague, Dr. Seth Lloyd, in his own Physics Dept. Please read his quote in their own MIT Technology Review, which can be found in the May 16, 2013 issue. Thanks.
what if all waves do not collapse, but break down Infinitely? also,
according to entanglement, since we can see and measure reality that
means there is an equal but opposite measurement somewhere?
Why is this guy giving away what they are doing? What do think nobody else is doing it?
BRILLIANT ,,,,
I love this stuff!
NASA took delivery of their 512-Qubit D-Wave Two quantum computer this month. But there is compelling dissension from Scott Aaronson...
Very interesting talk but why did they have to flip his face every few seconds? It was so distracting, I had to minimize the window so I could listen to just the audio..
It isn't a quantum computer, its a quantum annealer. There's no demonstrated speedup vs traditional computing.
if they would just stop changing camera angles every 2 seconds they would be golden
only with well defined data sets.....ie census, face recognition, language translation, WELL DEFINED and tabulated....
Geordie is Steve Jobs, this guy is Wazniak.
It seems Schrodinger's cat just never gets any respect. Imagine you are the cat. When you're alive, you know you're alive. Wouldn't it seem that your own consciousness, on your own and separate from the observers outside the box dictate that you are existing in a material state only?
*Deleted Terminator: Judgement day related sick joke*
But seriously, we can now save our currencies without the encryption part? Because it will be broken in a second. It would be more easy, lower cost hahaha