@@Maxanova nah it’s consistent with Anakin being simply on a different level. His full potential rivals that of force gods like the ones on Mortis. Though he is not full potential yet in this scenario, he is still absurdly powerful
Mother Talzan not being used in live screen was a big miss! She was very powerful and somebody Palpatine and probably Plagues feared along with the Jedi.
This is one of my favorite theories, even though it's pretty old compared to your other content. I can't help but come back and listen from time to time
Only at 50:00 but this is already SICK. I just found your page a few days ago and its already my favorite Star Wars what-if channel, by a country mile. Very well executed. As much as I give props to the OG StarWarsTheory, sometimes his contrived plots and overzealous voice acting gives me too much cringe. This was realistic, tasteful, and so true to the essence of each character. Particularly Anakin, who was never a fan of gaining political power, more-so just outright power. Seeing a truly matured and calculating Vader is wonderful. We will watch your career with great interest!
Thank you so much I really appreciate it! And I understand wym, SWT seems to play favorites in his theories, I don't like to do that. I'm really glad you enjoyed this!
I completely understand. I knew Ahsoka stood no chance but it still shocked and hurt when you said she died 😭😭😭 she’s my favorite in the whole franchise. Great character development and I grew up with her
Just found this channel today and I’m liking what I’ve seen so far! I saw the ‘What of the ancient sith returned during the clone wars’ video and was like “ayye! Finally someone did my boy Plo some justice!!” …and then I clicked this. But liking it so far, keep up the good work! I appreciate the focus you have on character consistency, very refreshing as opposed to a certain…mouse based companies “stories”.
I sorta picture all of the Sith hanging around dueling on the down time but also just sitting on couches throwing lightsabers at a dartboard and picking their teeth. Like a teen punk gang in the 90’s 🤣
Not gonna lie that was a great story it would have been perfect if Anakin teamed up with Darth Traya and Revan but beggars can’t be choosers, again great job and keep it up.
My personal view of an improved rule of two is that the Sith Lord should not allow apprentices that could become attached to each other unless the Sith Lord feels comfortable that he can handle both. Maul and Savage were united as a pair but didn't act against Sidious or Vader out of fear. It didn't matter that there was more than 2.
"Our time has come. For 300 years, we prepared. We grew stronger. While you rested in your cradle of power, believing your people were safe… protected. You were trusted to lead the Republic but you were deceived, as our powers over the dark side had blinded you. You assumed no force could challenge you and now… finally… we have returned. You were deceived. And now your Republic will fall." -Darth Malgus It just seemed very fitting
I like how not even in fan-fiction there's no indication Dooku would ever secure a place in the new empire. I mean this is the kind of thing he always dreamed about, a reformed republic. Maybe he really did believe in democracy and tried to balance it with sith teachings.
Mother Talzin is who gave Maul to Sidious not some random Night Sister. Mother Talzin gave her son (Maul) to Sidious to gain his favor, in hopes he would make her his apprentice (Sidious didn’t because he feared Mother Talzin’s power).
Not sure what you mean by movie, but this was great listen to while playing Minecraft, first 20 minutes we're kinda hard to comprehend, but otherwise, great one. One of my faves.
I just love how plot armor snaps the Jedi’s necks so boring that’s always what happens with Anakin he just lifts them with the force and snaps there neck happens in every story
-What if in SWTOR, Ochos of Oblivion didn’t happen and Vitiate/Valkrion return around the movies?(Could be in the same vain of the Darth JarJar fic you did.) -What if The Rule of Two was abolished after the Clone Wars? -What if the Sith Empire returned during the Galactic Civil War instead of the Clone Wars? -What if Vader raised BOTH and trained of his Kids? -What if Anakin saved Mace Windu and stayed in the light during Order 66? -What if Thrawn was present during the Original Trilogy? -What if Anakin/Vader was a double agent and played the long game like your Rebel Thrawn fic? -What if Maul was found by the Jedi before Sidious? -What if Vader,Thrawn and Several Imperials started an Imperial Rebellion separate from the Rebels,which really took off around the DS1 destruction? -What if Vader never burned on Mustafar? -What if Grevious was a Republic General but still hated the Jedi? -What if Starkiller lived at the end of TFU1 and later trained the Skywalker Twins? -What if Lord Starkiller lived at the end of TFU1 dark side ending and ignoring the dlc, basically replacing Vader?
What's interesting is Maul had more force potential than Sideous, but his brother had more potential than Maul. Granted, this is in Cannon. This could be due to the magical enhancements
And my next what if idea is what if Darth Malak was redeemed instead of Revan I believe lot do with these two and be pretty interesting to do believe it be in part like this video tell what you guys think hope you like it
Thanks glad I all wonder ever kotor games will if Darth Malak was redeemed instead of Revan just interesting theory to I glad you agree and are interested in over what if I had
If the Jedi believed that Maul and Savage were the 2 sith, thy wouldn't have sent an aging human and a Padawan to fight both of them. It would have been far more likely, like 100% more likely, that 4 Jedi would be sent at a time. You also simplify the tactics of someone like Sidious. He wouldn't order the death of padme. He would nurture that relationship until Anakin were older to use her death to push him even farther down the dark side path
I would like to see what if palpatine kept the droid army as infantry and used the clones as elites after becoming emperor. So the clones would come in after the droids did the main assault and the clones would be the final sweep and clean up
This might still be my favorite what if from you, I keep coming back to it. I switch between a few to listen in the background, but the point is this one is great, anakin took the sith to the one place no one in the galaxy was ready for.. new game plus. Maybe in a year or two you could come back and do a remaster or revision of it, it’s definitely an exciting idea. I love the part where the sith start forming factions against each other, after they’ve won, especially. It’s just so very sith of them, undone by the same ambition that gave them victory, vying against their masters and apprentices in a vain hope to come out on top while anakin gets swole
This was more about Anakin than Maul and Savage but regardless of that Maul didn't fear Plo I mean I thought Maul always wanted to fight him....and Maul and Savage weren't twins but yeah still I enjoyed this video I lisen to it while playing Swtor and it's great so good work
Good story I just think you let all the heavy hitters die to easy . Most from force choke lol , and savage was not naturally gifted in force remember mother tazlin gave him his power. And If dookou and grievous got stronger wouldn’t the same be said for maul and savage who died to easy
First, Palpatine went against the rule of 2 and prefer the rule of 3 instead, believing the only reason Treya was betrayed by her students was because they of her unrealistic agenda of trying to destroy the force which would naturally put her against her students who were dependent on it. Sion in order to stay alive and Nihilus due to his hunger. What worked better is having two apprentice who rivaled each other while feeding the master as he acquired more and more power. Triangles are afterall much more stable than duos.
i think u hit the mark perfecktly-- here is a twist to a "jadi-ending" for Anakin.... it is as it was to the point wher Palpatine reviales that he knows the force. in the storyline Anakin turns and states: U know the darkside? på Palpatine, but what if Anakin turns only to ignite hes lightsaber in the stomach of Palpatine (it could be fun as then both sides have lost thery "leader" and the "overall plan" is gone but the galaxy is still at war)
I liked this. But I think Anakin should’ve married Bariss and they had Luke and Leigha. And Luke or Leigha joins the Jedi and defeats Anakin. And the other sibling becomes the new Sith.
Sheev should have used Anakin & others to launch a false flag attack on him or the senate. Spin a story that the Jedi are trying to lauch a coup for demoting them. And use that to activate Order 66.
please tell me I'm wrong about this, but I swear I think I heard you say that a Nightsister gave Maul as a baby to Palpatine so that he wouldn't fall into the hands of Mother Talzin. The reason I'm saying that I really hope I misunderstood is because that's not even close to what happened. What truly happened was that Palpatine thought about taking Talzin as his apprentice due to how insanely powerful she was, but he decided against it because she was too old and would not be easy to mold or manipulate, so he decided to take her very young (baby) son who had her same potential if not more and train him to be his apprentice, and that young son was Maul. Maul not only had insane potential with the force, but also insane potential to be able to use and wield Nightsister magic. Also Talzin did not want to give Maul to Palpatine, Palpatine basically stole Maul. Fun Fact: Maul was an actual genuine apprentice to Sidious and not a means to an end like Dooku was, he had always planned to replace Dooku, he had not planned to replace Maul
I find it comical how Palpatine died instantly after being revived 😂
I totally LOVE The Chosen One arch here…. Anakin would finally reach his full potential
I like that Anakin just casually uses the force and kills yoda, mace and mundi immediately without challenge
Well he is The Chosen One so yeah.
@@matthewmann8969no it’s bad writing
@@Maxanova nah it’s consistent with Anakin being simply on a different level. His full potential rivals that of force gods like the ones on Mortis. Though he is not full potential yet in this scenario, he is still absurdly powerful
Mother Talzan not being used in live screen was a big miss! She was very powerful and somebody Palpatine and probably Plagues feared along with the Jedi.
So pretty much Palpatine would have a whole squad of Sith and assassins.And I like how you revived the sith order in a way.
I love how you free talk your stories. Makes it more enjoyable. Especially when you said “you know grievous is”
RIP Count Dooku. Why does he always end up dying in these so easily?
Cause hes ass at the game that's why
@PotatoTtow there needs to be a what if it Dooku got his youth back one of these days..
Wait what happened to Padme in this one?
His age
@@animegamerjace9851she was killed by maul and savage at palpatines orders days/weeks after they took Anakin in
savage is definitely an underrated character
I personally don’t usually like the fact that Exegol exists because I think the sequel story has no vision, but I like it in this. Nice fan fiction
Honestly same, but I honestly thought that Exegol had potential, that’s why I use it in this story, just without the whole thing JJ did
- What if the Nightsisters killed Dooku and Grievous?
- What if Plagueis survived and only tricked Palpatine into believing he killed him?
I like how this is what if palpatine trained savage and it just turned into anakins full dark side potential 😭
Exactly☠️
anakin is now 10000 percent of what palpatine was in power ranking
8:57 Palpatine's playing the senate. Palpatine IS the senate. Palpatine is playing himself.
"Remember the first and only reality of the Sith: There can only be two."
~ Darth Sidious
if maul and savage had been trained from phantom menace to the clone wars they would have eclipsed the power of dooku individually
Excactly!!!
And possibly even Yodas
@@matthewmann8969 oh yes i definitely think thats possible.
Third video idea: What if Dooku had heard out Jango's side of the story on Galidraan instead of attacking him and the True Mandalorians?
That'd be fun!
@@PentePatrolStarWars lol I know right, so many new Infinities style stories that can be told with the True Mando'ade.
This is one of my favorite theories, even though it's pretty old compared to your other content. I can't help but come back and listen from time to time
Only at 50:00 but this is already SICK. I just found your page a few days ago and its already my favorite Star Wars what-if channel, by a country mile. Very well executed. As much as I give props to the OG StarWarsTheory, sometimes his contrived plots and overzealous voice acting gives me too much cringe. This was realistic, tasteful, and so true to the essence of each character. Particularly Anakin, who was never a fan of gaining political power, more-so just outright power. Seeing a truly matured and calculating Vader is wonderful. We will watch your career with great interest!
Thank you so much I really appreciate it! And I understand wym, SWT seems to play favorites in his theories, I don't like to do that. I'm really glad you enjoyed this!
But SWT still has great what ifs
@@tytebben Yup! No hate towards him, just a difference in storytelling :)
Just a suggestion check out another what if channel called Star Wars Elseworlds
This was the best what if I’ve ever heard
Thank you so much!
like the Palpatine impression. Good Job
Thank you so much!
wow your palpatine impression is spot-on
How difficult was it for you to kill off Plo koon in the story😂 great fanfic tho, it was pretty interesting
It hurted a lot. But it had to be done! I can’t play favorites!
I completely understand. I knew Ahsoka stood no chance but it still shocked and hurt when you said she died 😭😭😭 she’s my favorite in the whole franchise. Great character development and I grew up with her
@@ninernation7170 Oh man that entire sequence was so brutal. Especially the way Ahsoka was killed
@@PentePatrolStarWars I want kill a jedi Uncel Luke Hehhehe
@@PentePatrolStarWars i feel you, Plo's my favorite Jedi too
I love what you do here, this story is epic!
Grevious must've been sad he is running out of lightsabers to add to his immaculate collection after Order 66
greatly written story, especially with the multiple threads in the empire era
Just found this channel today and I’m liking what I’ve seen so far! I saw the ‘What of the ancient sith returned during the clone wars’ video and was like “ayye! Finally someone did my boy Plo some justice!!” …and then I clicked this.
But liking it so far, keep up the good work! I appreciate the focus you have on character consistency, very refreshing as opposed to a certain…mouse based companies “stories”.
Thank you so much! Character motivation is so critical to everything I try to create!
I sorta picture all of the Sith hanging around dueling on the down time but also just sitting on couches throwing lightsabers at a dartboard and picking their teeth. Like a teen punk gang in the 90’s 🤣
Not gonna lie that was a great story it would have been perfect if Anakin teamed up with Darth Traya and Revan but beggars can’t be choosers, again great job and keep it up.
Thank you so much!
If he did this he wouldn't need Anakin
Technically Savage is older than Maul by at least a year but, farel, their other brother was born the year before maul was recruited by sidious
This really became my favorite what if I really listen to it everyday
He did train Maul.
It just started with the two being trained but it changed the world so much
don't not fail me again savage 😂
36:15 EXTERMINATE!
LOVED THIS
I can't believe I missed this. Tis amazing.
My personal view of an improved rule of two is that the Sith Lord should not allow apprentices that could become attached to each other unless the Sith Lord feels comfortable that he can handle both.
Maul and Savage were united as a pair but didn't act against Sidious or Vader out of fear. It didn't matter that there was more than 2.
I really want to see another series in the future because this was awesome!!!!! Please do another one
Thank you so much! I’ll be making a mini series with the Sith Empire and Clones video!
No matter who makes these what if videos it would be so awesome to see them animated
:) Who said I don't plan on that..
These story I’m really enjoying!!!
it was great good job man
"Our time has come. For 300 years, we prepared. We grew stronger. While you rested in your cradle of power, believing your people were safe… protected. You were trusted to lead the Republic but you were deceived, as our powers over the dark side had blinded you. You assumed no force could challenge you and now… finally… we have returned.
You were deceived. And now your Republic will fall." -Darth Malgus
It just seemed very fitting
What if palpatine selected opress instead of Maul .So in phantom menace obi wan and qui gon fought opress
That's actually so cool.I hope he actually does that!
That'd be dope!
@darthdude they are all force sensitive because they have same parents
or am I missing something?
@@fatakcz5962 no actually they infused some sort of nighsister magic in Savage, you see it in the clone wars.
@@Discretion234 yea but it made him stronger and loyal to them
Oh this is gonna be good.
Amazing work on this story
Thank you so much!
@@PentePatrolStarWars your welcome
I like how not even in fan-fiction there's no indication Dooku would ever secure a place in the new empire. I mean this is the kind of thing he always dreamed about, a reformed republic. Maybe he really did believe in democracy and tried to balance it with sith teachings.
Palps losing his empire quickly before it really began in this cameo. The rule of two was put in place for reasons such as this.
Mother Talzin is who gave Maul to Sidious not some random Night Sister. Mother Talzin gave her son (Maul) to Sidious to gain his favor, in hopes he would make her his apprentice (Sidious didn’t because he feared Mother Talzin’s power).
Not sure what you mean by movie, but this was great listen to while playing Minecraft, first 20 minutes we're kinda hard to comprehend, but otherwise, great one. One of my faves.
I just love how plot armor snaps the Jedi’s necks so boring that’s always what happens with Anakin he just lifts them with the force and snaps there neck happens in every story
-What if in SWTOR, Ochos of Oblivion didn’t happen and Vitiate/Valkrion return around the movies?(Could be in the same vain of the Darth JarJar fic you did.)
-What if The Rule of Two was abolished after the Clone Wars?
-What if the Sith Empire returned during the Galactic Civil War instead of the Clone Wars?
-What if Vader raised BOTH and trained of his Kids?
-What if Anakin saved Mace Windu and stayed in the light during Order 66?
-What if Thrawn was present during the Original Trilogy?
-What if Anakin/Vader was a double agent and played the long game like your Rebel Thrawn fic?
-What if Maul was found by the Jedi before Sidious?
-What if Vader,Thrawn and Several Imperials started an Imperial Rebellion separate from the Rebels,which really took off around the DS1 destruction?
-What if Vader never burned on Mustafar?
-What if Grevious was a Republic General but still hated the Jedi?
-What if Starkiller lived at the end of TFU1 and later trained the Skywalker Twins?
-What if Lord Starkiller lived at the end of TFU1 dark side ending and ignoring the dlc, basically replacing Vader?
12:38 I’d think at this time maul would be the best duelist and the most powerful
"There can only be two... A master... and an apprentice...no more, no less"
anakin is so op lol, i love it
Grevious just have the time of his life during order 66 lol
Anakin felt a disturbance in the force... Chewbacca stubbed his toe
😢
What's interesting is Maul had more force potential than Sideous, but his brother had more potential than Maul. Granted, this is in Cannon. This could be due to the magical enhancements
And my next what if idea is what if Darth Malak was redeemed instead of Revan I believe lot do with these two and be pretty interesting to do believe it be in part like this video tell what you guys think hope you like it
That'd be fun!
Thanks glad I all wonder ever kotor games will if Darth Malak was redeemed instead of Revan just interesting theory to I glad you agree and are interested in over what if I had
Hell of a video
Thank you so much!
If the Jedi believed that Maul and Savage were the 2 sith, thy wouldn't have sent an aging human and a Padawan to fight both of them. It would have been far more likely, like 100% more likely, that 4 Jedi would be sent at a time.
You also simplify the tactics of someone like Sidious. He wouldn't order the death of padme. He would nurture that relationship until Anakin were older to use her death to push him even farther down the dark side path
20:32 and 21:09 When Anakin said that, I already knew what Anakin intended for them.
TBH This is my favorite What If
This Story is a fu***** masterpiece😲
I would like to see what if palpatine kept the droid army as infantry and used the clones as elites after becoming emperor. So the clones would come in after the droids did the main assault and the clones would be the final sweep and clean up
Ever so...how many times did I just hear those two words lol
This might still be my favorite what if from you, I keep coming back to it. I switch between a few to listen in the background, but the point is this one is great, anakin took the sith to the one place no one in the galaxy was ready for.. new game plus. Maybe in a year or two you could come back and do a remaster or revision of it, it’s definitely an exciting idea. I love the part where the sith start forming factions against each other, after they’ve won, especially. It’s just so very sith of them, undone by the same ambition that gave them victory, vying against their masters and apprentices in a vain hope to come out on top while anakin gets swole
Also the Jedi being on the backfoot in the war is always nice, as weird as that is to say. It’s just way more tense, I think
I'd def like to revisit this at some point!
I doubt that Anakin would be able to kill Yoda, Mace Windu, and Plo Koon simultaneously. Great story thory though. Keep up the great work
This is basically fp anakin
Savage was stronger than maul in the darkside. Mother Townsand gifted him with even more force magic power.
overexcited boiii
:D
Rebirth of the sith brotherhood
This was more about Anakin than Maul and Savage but regardless of that Maul didn't fear Plo I mean I thought Maul always wanted to fight him....and Maul and Savage weren't twins but yeah still I enjoyed this video I lisen to it while playing Swtor and it's great so good work
Just love how anakin would reach immortality din't even wanted it
Awesome, this is awesome.
Thank you so much!
This was the best what if!
Thank you so much!
TH-camrs live disrespecting my boy Maul 😂
Without the loss against Obi Wan Darth Maul will become even more powerful
Amazing story Man! But there is one thing missing. Starkiller should have been Vader's apprentice.
No
Good story I just think you let all the heavy hitters die to easy . Most from force choke lol , and savage was not naturally gifted in force remember mother tazlin gave him his power. And If dookou and grievous got stronger wouldn’t the same be said for maul and savage who died to easy
First, Palpatine went against the rule of 2 and prefer the rule of 3 instead, believing the only reason Treya was betrayed by her students was because they of her unrealistic agenda of trying to destroy the force which would naturally put her against her students who were dependent on it. Sion in order to stay alive and Nihilus due to his hunger.
What worked better is having two apprentice who rivaled each other while feeding the master as he acquired more and more power. Triangles are afterall much more stable than duos.
PLO is getting bodied by maul especially a maul that didn’t loose his legs
Well, that is pretty insane. I am so surprised.
Video idea: What if Obi-Wan never became a force ghost in A New Hope? (What if he died but didn't fade into the force)
i think u hit the mark perfecktly-- here is a twist to a "jadi-ending" for Anakin.... it is as it was to the point wher Palpatine reviales that he knows the force. in the storyline Anakin turns and states: U know the darkside? på Palpatine, but what if Anakin turns only to ignite hes lightsaber in the stomach of Palpatine (it could be fun as then both sides have lost thery "leader" and the "overall plan" is gone but the galaxy is still at war)
what if count douku never left the jedi order and trained anakin?
Awesome!
This would be kinda sick yknow
Loved this..
Awesome!
Dam this is awesome
Thank you so much!
what if palpatine lost the election to bail organa
Ooo a political tale!
This was such a good video, ngl I was kinda rooting for the empire in this. Fuckin loved it mate, keep up the good work
Thank you so much!
Sequel with Vader vs Abeloth. Might be interesting.
I realised how long this was 1 quarter of the way in
I liked this. But I think Anakin should’ve married Bariss and they had Luke and Leigha. And Luke or Leigha joins the Jedi and defeats Anakin. And the other sibling becomes the new Sith.
Yea even disney plot armor aint making it out of this one
Bro keep making these videos there good and I wont to see more of these
Thank you so much!
Fox would be shooting at greivoud(not red blades) should have used Dark Pong Krell w his hinged saberstaffs but 2purple 2crimson
damn this is very good!
Thank you so much!
Nooo my boy Plo did his best
Sheev should have used Anakin & others to launch a false flag attack on him or the senate. Spin a story that the Jedi are trying to lauch a coup for demoting them. And use that to activate Order 66.
please tell me I'm wrong about this, but I swear I think I heard you say that a Nightsister gave Maul as a baby to Palpatine so that he wouldn't fall into the hands of Mother Talzin. The reason I'm saying that I really hope I misunderstood is because that's not even close to what happened.
What truly happened was that Palpatine thought about taking Talzin as his apprentice due to how insanely powerful she was, but he decided against it because she was too old and would not be easy to mold or manipulate, so he decided to take her very young (baby) son who had her same potential if not more and train him to be his apprentice, and that young son was Maul. Maul not only had insane potential with the force, but also insane potential to be able to use and wield Nightsister magic. Also Talzin did not want to give Maul to Palpatine, Palpatine basically stole Maul.
Fun Fact: Maul was an actual genuine apprentice to Sidious and not a means to an end like Dooku was, he had always planned to replace Dooku, he had not planned to replace Maul
Great work. New to the channel. I look forward to more.
Thank you so much!