Apex 2015 - S2J (Captain Falcon) Vs. PPMD (Marth, Falco) - Winners Round 2 - SSBM
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"PP won't make it into top 8" good call scar, good call
Seth Johnson Give Scar a break. He's senile
hardrockfreak1337 kek
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If Scar said that, I hope he falls into a pit of starved piranhas and is ripped limb from limb and can feel himself being digested.
9:30 "PeePee going in"
that profile picture makes it so much better.
Even when mang0 is not in the match, Scar has to mention his name. Scar also says he didn't believe PPMD was going to be the god that did not make into top 8. Shut up scar.
JoeDantoni1412 scar rides mango like crazy in commentary
JoeDantoni1412 It was perfectly reasonable to say that. PP hadn't played in like a year.
exactly scars an idiot cant even concentrate on the game thats played thats why he's a semi pro and he always will be
If PP woulda went red falco, introduced himself as westballz, and stilled played the EXACT same patient falco, Johnny woulda went ham on that falco
He would've gone ham on a turkey lol
Can't believe this set is almost 7 years old. This is the tournament that made me want to start playing melee competitively. Insane.
yo, at 3:34 it sounds like scar says i smoked a pee pee earlier.
it really does lol
This is so good
Lol scar with the hugest falcon bias
"VGBC | PPMD"
lol gimr
Wait I don’t get it
@@anmdragon36 PPMD used to be part of the VGBC before this, but was picked up by Evil Geniuses. But the guy running the stream, gimr, accidentally put him as VGBC | PPMD lol
You can really see the high level of play possible by Falcon here. Looking forward to seeing S2J's and Mango's comparative Falcon results.
You read my mind dude. Rewatching this set has made me much more hopeful for Mango to break the 'no Falcon higher than 5th' curse - if not more.
Doc Wiggles Wait, is Mango committing to playing Falcon only this year or something? If so, this year could be the year that everyone has been waiting for...even though I want to see S2j do it.
quel1221 It is; thanks.
holgh wolgh Yeah, he was a buster at APEX and has thus committed to it.
Wow, but I feel like Mango would be risking A LOT to go all Falcon on the next tournaments. Yeah he didn't do so well at Apex. When he played AMSA I was at a loss because I really wanted to Mang0 to win, but I also really wanted Amsa to win
S2J looks like he legitimately wants to kill himself after he missed that edgeguard during game 3. That could have possibly changed the whole tournament if Johnny would have just pressed L.
lol scar, he did take the whole tournament yolo
Super accurate and insightful falcon commentary from Scar about nair knee, the first time and the 2nd time he mentioned it. Great commentary, it's improved over the years.
-Vro
"Johnny came straight from Nordstrom" -one of the greatest lines of commentary of all time.
Now THIS is some good smash. Absolute monsters these guys.
Come back to this video for the elite commentary
I think with how good S2J plays, I feel like he should get sponsored.
Sooo close. Long live the dream S2J
Is he failing those edgeguards on purpose?
this is hype even in 2018
My favorite Smasher vs. my favorite Captain. So cruel, Apex. :(
Turn on the subtitles and have a blast lol
4:30 wizzy must have heard scars commentary and been like “hold my beer”
5:15 one of my favorite combos
VGBC|PPMD
Kappa
I'm confused, is he EG and VGBC?
+cristianjordan2003 He was on VGBC, but he left for EG.
+v4extreme ok
Well-played S2J.
why is it written at the top vgbc | ppmd instead of eg | ppmd?
Good fights there! :)
S2J, Plup, PewPewU, and Wizzy will be the next generation of gods
And Lucky
+Caleb Robinson westballz too
+Graybat12 westballz is definitely good, but he doesn't seem as consistent as the others. I obviously could be wrong though
Caleb Robinson Recently he has been Top 8 in almost all of the big tourneys. He plays arguably the most technical Falco in the world.
+Graybat12 he is one of the best Falco mains for sure, but I think Axe's Falco is probably more technical than Westballz. Doesn't mean it's better though
When double laser from the ledge was still safe.
Is sj2 in the project m scene?
How many powershields did s2j have that match😳
Gimr instead of showing PPMD's actual sponser,EG, puts VGBC as his sponser.
This game is why I love single character players. Scar commentates this match from S2J's perspective so nicely, and catches little flaws that can be very productive for the audience and advancing the metagame.
3:35 ... lolo scar :P
I'm surprised that Scar, despite historically thinking lowly of PPMD, still commentates. Thank goodness Toph balances out Scar's bias.
the closest set PP had all tournament.
Scar, you liked turnaround jab so much because of Mindreader.
johnny making pp sweat game 1 lmao
hit or miss I guess i never miss
if he gotten that free first stock in game three, we would have had a different winner for apex.
0:20 - Obviously Scar forgot about Hax taking PP to last game, last stock at Evo 2013...
Crowd noise at 10:20 so satisfying
S2j has it in him.
Yea
PPMD Y MEW2KING LOS MEJORES DEL MUNDO
When s2j dropped his head after the edge guard fail :[
Since I only watch competitive Melee, I don't know the answer to this:
At 8:22, S2J has a string of 3 up throws that PP has perfect DI on, every time. At that percentage, would one of those have been better as a down throw? You can d throw into knee, can't you? I swear, I've seen that before. But all of the latest Falcon videos I watch don't seem to have down throw anymore.
I wonder if Falcon players could change the meta if they were able to more reliably use other moves. Falcon Kick has its time and place - Darkrain uses it pretty well. Down tilt is pretty good, isn't it? It seems under used...I dunno, though, like I said, I just watch.
I didn't see a single situation where Falcon Kick would have helped. Nor dtilt. Both moves have their uses, just not against whatever PP was doing.
Dthrow knee on spacies is at something close to 200% with bad DI. Uthrow knee doesn't always work if they DI like PP did here.
I wasn't saying "oh he should've falcon kicked and dtilted more to beat PP here" tho
So d throw doesn't pop them high enough, I guess?
darkphoenix2 d throw knee doesnt work on fast fallers like the spacies. Its much more reliable on midweights to floaties. D throw usually leads to tech chases on fast fallers.
Downthrow doesn't lead into anything on Falco. It's great to start techchasing, or if they're by the edge you can run off -> knee. Otherwise at reasonable percents downthrow gets you nowhere. Falcon Kick is silly for techchasing but is extremely situational because of its negligible knockback, damage, and its substantial ending lag. It's very easy to shieldgrab. Downtilt is ok for edgeguarding and can sometimes lead to knees.
I may be wrong, maybe its only fox, but I think if you down throw a spacy off the edge and fall with a knee, it can connect. If that's what you were thinking originally, hopefully that helps
2020 MU knowledge is so different. lol Especially when it comes to Falcon Vs…almost anyone lol
One or the most intense games ever lol.
nah
not even top50
If only Johnny could edgeguard...
S2J focus on edgeguarding! You're so great!
If this s2j could edgeguard like he does now, he woulda won apex
Tristana ikr
PP kept approaching with nairs immediately after his lasers. When he's not in range for laser-grab/ laser-jab, S2J needs to wavedash OoS back immediately and punish those approaches.
how the fuck do they not make any of the new smash borthers games like this how do you even compare melee to ssb4 to this high level play.........you cant
Project M exists
Alpha Death Still no where near as good as Melee in my opinion.
Because then we'd have to call it CoD.
Jesse They both play the same exact way, and they are both really balanced. I can understand the smoothness of PM being a negative to high level players who have adjusted to the lag times of melee, but to say "no where near" is just retarded.
PM was designed to play like melee, and it does. Some people are really elitist to melee because they have played it first.
Kanade Tachibana It was designed to play like Melee but still doesn't mean it's exactly like Melee. Nothing will ever be like Melee, and that is why Melee is the best in my opinion and many others. I've watched PM matches but I still think Melee is way more hype and entertaining. It's just the characters, and the maps, and like I said, it still doesn't play exactly like Melee. It's just... Melee. The fact that that's how it can be play without mods is hype, and just awesome. Notice how I said "in my opinion" in both my comments? It is my opinion, but the majority would agree with me as well.
damn nice falcon
Man... This set was so close to being a major upset. I can only imagine the salty tweets from Hax$ afterwards. Sigh. Maybe the rise of the Falcon will be at EVO. I still believe. ;-;
Who is this "johnny" they keep talking about?
Gotmilk0112 s2j
RIGHT FROM NORDSTROM
10:32 was a free falcon punch.
lntimidating XBL falcon punch would've been iffy. utilt or dair, maybe
How can you be so good but also suck so bad? I counted 7 attempted, attainable, and blatant failed edgeguards
Scar was too hyped about anything that do s2j
PP is like a big brother and S2J is like a smaller brother, or could be my experience with my big brother and I, because he always messes me up and I just take it lol
Smoke2jointz, yeeeee
It seems that PPMD's marth doesn't do well as his falco against falcon.
Marth vs. Falcon is also one of the most explosive matchups in Melee in the sense that the 0-deaths are much easier on each other in comparison to other matchups. What I'm saying is, any mistake is more crucial than normal in this MU.
S2J looks like he's crying.
Scar needs to lay off the Red Bull.
#yesallmarths
S2J, PPMD and Mew2king are my favorite smashers lol.
PPMD has got to be #1!
seems like s2j don't like to go off-stage to edgeguard falco?
It looks like he was too nervous to. He was playing a god at apex, didn't wanna take the risk of throwing a stock away, or losing stage control for missing
sometimes, especially in such a tourney, you have to risk something to win a lot or loose a lot..
cross25011990 he almost beat PP. i would say he made the right decision
KashiwaDaisuke s2j is a great player! :)
Poor johnny
Johnny is so good against Marth. Ask Zain.
What happened there? 6:06
it skipped a frame when he up threw
Lol this was before scar was a pp fan.
He hated PP?
Why do people say PPMD Kreygasm
Ruling PhantomDJ Mango used to have an account on twitch called "Idestroyppmd" or something along those lines, and he would purposely go into twitch chat rooms where he knew ppmd happened to be, and spam "PPMD Kreygasm", but it didn't catch on until Mango was commentating at a big tournament (I forget which one), and told the story himself. As soon as he finished the story, the chat exploded, and the meme was born.
Trent Blaser-Welch holy shit.
Trent Blaser-Welch Ruling PhantomDJ iDestoryPP69
Ruling PhantomDJ ppmd Kreygasm
S2J
haha scar got it wrong as usual
Nordstrom | S2J
8:05
Ladies and gents, the best Falcon in the world
then he misses the edgeguard :P
that's the joke
3:33 sounds like he says "I smoked a Pp earlier"
scar cutting toph off ASFFFFF
3:25
"Johnny K straight from nordstrom into the venue!" lawl
I can't listen to Scar and Toph commentate together they just fanboy too hard
of course they do, S2J is the underdog and no Falcon has beat PP in tournament for years
and then PP took it.
rock lee vs gaara shit
Lol @ 3:38.
good commentary
s2j have bad ledgeguard
Whole set, whole TOURNAMENT would've been different if S2J didn't let off the whiff of the century at 8:08. Jesus man..
His face after losing his stock accurately reflects how I too felt. I can never NOT root for Falcon, no matter the MU or the players.. feelsbad to see him lose, which is sadly becoming the norm.
I swear to God Cap. Falcon Knee is the best move of this game. It is so satisfying when performed.
It's just beautiful.
+Ramon Castillo true my nigga
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I cannot fucking stand commentator bias man. Love scar, but god damn, S2J would be getting just destroyed and he’s like “ah yeah but very nice stuff from S2J to not die there,” after taking a fucking 83% combo to the face. God damn dude. Still pisses me off these years later.
Toph and Scar are solid commentators but they are often so biased. I know they have personal relationships with S2J, he's a falcon, and the underdog but cmon!
Everyone cheers for the falcon. Scar is also a falcon main so its what he would know best.
honestly i see it more as they have more to learn from s2j doing well than from ppmd doing well in this situation. the upset is hype but it could also be a shift in the meta.
This commentary is like the embodiment of why Captain Falcon players and sympathizers are annoying.
I know this comment is a year old but what are you even talking about? "Falcon sympathizers" lol what the fuck?
Shino literally just Scar is annoying and biased when it comes to falcon
**S2J down two stocks, getting combo'd 0-70%**
"S2J is so comfortable out of shield, Johnny's unstoppable when he's on a roll"
Lol shut up scar
Literally haven't used my youtube sign in in forever and i know this was in 2015, but i signed in just to say that this commentary was truly terrible and biased. Apex is a high level and professional tournament, I expect better. Saying PP isn't going to make top 8 and he literally wins. Good job Scar, good job.
cap falcon beat marth
I swear watching Melee tournaments are so boring. everyone who plays this game competetively picks the same 5 or 6 damn characters. someone pick like a young link or ness and beat Fox< Falco, Marth, falcon and Peach. then itll be intersting to watch. Im a brawl and smash 4 fan anyway.
This is boring to you coming from Tr4sh and brawl? lol
Lol, i think smash 4 is 1000 times better than melee. and i enjoyed brawl alot more as well. Melee is just that game that needs to die down already lol its old as dirt. smash has evolved. but, my opinion
Rich Dagostino I'm sure watching the same 3 characters win events is so interesting to a Sm4sh player.
Why is Melee being old a bad thing? The games haven't evolved, they all suck compared to Melee because Sakurai doesn't want to have a competitive scene in his games. That's just a fact.
Well, smash 4 has a high speed level again, and i think its very fun to play competetively. its just fine. and as far as brawl goes ( still my favorite) it always gets shit because its not like melee and thats not cool.
+Rich Dagostino You're just not skillful enough to understand or compete in this game. Its no big deal, not everyone can handle Melee. Also, Young Link and ness suck, but if you want to see those chars, you can look up Simna for Ness, Axe, and Armada for Young Link. Plenty of people play the not so common characters, but don't expect to see them winning a major tournament....Thats just foolish thinking.
Let's go PP. Scar was annoying as fuck
Anyone else done with these dumb s*** commentators that are full of themselves I give anyone who truly believes in the destruction of things to take their experience