D4 is targeting a casual audience. Therefore is going to sell many copies. As d3 did. They dont care about depth or what hardcore gamers think. And thats sad.
@@sotoskun861 I'd say it's targeting a mainstream audience which consists of all types of players. Virtually everyone plays Blizzard games, incl hardcore gamers. PoE's problem is that it's not accessible to beginners. Even hardcore players have to start somewhere, & PoE would benefit from simplification/ streamlining
@@Enfetamina Lol yeah ikr. I dont want to have to think this much just to make a build to play an action RPG. I wish there were games that were more complex than D3 but less complex than PoE
@@scarlet8078 It's not a problem with thinking too much as it's really not that hard to plow through the game and destroy everything. All the min maxing people do is not required, especially if you play a spell or minion build. My issue with the game has more to do with the gameplay itself. PoE is riddled with dev decisions that I don't agree with (speed meta, shitty co-op, trading, the atlas, sulfite requirements) and I feel the playerbase is too rigid to ever allow for change. -It's not a bad game but I can rarely last longer than a week with each new season before getting bored.
A lot of people conplaining thats to much stuff. This expansion makes clear that you dont have to do all existing mechanics. Choose some, farm currency on those, buy the stuff that you are not farming and min/max your build. The only mandatory thing is to get watchsones and complete your atlas bonuses.
Well, the story is told really badly. The combat is a mess, nothing has a cooldown so you just pick one skill from early levels and use that for the rest of the game (similar to Diablo 2), the combat is WAY WAY too fast and everything is about speed. There is ONE cutscene in the entire game and that's not even good. The content is bloated, there's just too much of everything. You basically need to buy stash tabs if you want to play the game after playing the campaign (it's not much, only like, 10 euroes to get what you need). 90 % of the armour looks incredibly bad (not the ones you can buy for real money, they look amazing). One armour skin costs like 20 euroes, so the store is highly overpriced. But the game has good customization for your character, the passive skill tree is kinda big (but so, so many useless nodes) and there is bound to be at least one way for you to enjoy the game. I'd recommend it if you prefer min/maxing and nitpicking on your gear, but not if you're into smooth gameplay and story. Diablo 1 > Grim Dawn > Diablo 3 > Path of Exile > Titan Quest > Torchlight 1/2 > Diablo 2.
as a huge diablo fan aswell (diablo 2 mainly) PoE is what Diablo 3 should have been , many diablo fan said PoE is more of a diablo 2 successor than D3 is. Diablo 3 was a huge disapointment for me and many diablo fans, There is a reason why PoE is still HUGE after all these years, the game is very overwhelming with all the content and customization but it's 100% worth it if you are into diablo or any arpg at all , by far the best.
@@masterace1071 If you think that is an essay, I don't blame you for liking Path of Exile that much... Also, Diablo 3 is very different from Path of Exile, you can't say it's better or worse. It's more of an arcade game that is amazing for people who are starting up to play ARPG's. Path of Exile is not. It's a min/maxing math problem that gets good after you understand it. Two different games. And like I said; I like Path of Exile. But the community of the game is pretty much elitists who are wanking off to the game (and to Diablo 2) because reasons. And you kind of proved that point. It's really easy to enjoy both games and not hate the other, but apparently this is also an "essay", so you probably won't have the time to read it.
"if you're persistent and talented." End video. Quin's chance of survival in this league. -5000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Funny how the expansion focuses on how far you can push yourself with your power, but this coming Expedition league everything is getting nerfed. Doesn't really fit with theme of the expansion.
So basically GGG just flipped the middle finger to gaining any new players. The game already is so based around RnG that its just not fun anymore, everything literally everything is based on RnG. Now instead of making the base game more accessible to new players and growing your player base they are just adding in even more complex and confusing mechanics that will ultimately end up breaking the core gameplay just like nearly every league has done so far. Tailoring your game only to your most hardcore player base is not a good idea for longevity of a game. Sure these players are the ones that are spending the most money on the store but this wont last forever.
It's not confusing. It's boring. Those 10k different things aren't that different. At their core they force you to repeat hack and slash to the extremes, so no wonder you're fed up. If only the players had to consider altitude, this would make some portion of the repetition more interesting and bearable. You may stretch the game only so far before its back breaks. Too much shooting and looting ruins a looter-shooter just as too fast speedrunning ruins a horror game. PoE is not an exception. Its back will break sooner or later if it doesn't receive a balancing act. They should consider making an MMO and widen the approach methods the players have. Current approach hasn't changed much since the beginning, albeit couple leagues do try their best to diverge from it. It's just not enough.
@@Tyrannimarja I am sorry, but you just come of as a random dude, who this game is just not for. This is the league me and my friends have been hyped for the most since beta, because we feel it adds so many things it needs. Clearly the game developers agree, as a result it just seems, that you are not the target group. Some people like magic the gathering, some like hearthstone. Some like PoE it just seems D3 is more up your alley and D4 will likely be even better.
@@nrimagecreativehub1215 to much focus on customation instead of actuall gameplay, everything is an aoe splatter show that everything and all dont matter, you just getter better gear to make bigger or moore coulurfull splatters on the screen, but that being sed, some of the boss mechanics seem fun.
@@konzori sorry, but in this case maybe it is time to get a new game, nobody really wants to force you into playing the "irrelevant shit" if you don't feel like doing it, just don't. I am not sure if it is your case, but this days people treat games as if they are jobs.
"The Atlas tree is larger than the entire D4 passive tree" True!
Of course D4 is primarily designed to be a console / mobile game
D4 devs literally shaking rn
D4 is targeting a casual audience. Therefore is going to sell many copies. As d3 did. They dont care about depth or what hardcore gamers think. And thats sad.
@@sotoskun861 I'd say it's targeting a mainstream audience which consists of all types of players. Virtually everyone plays Blizzard games, incl hardcore gamers. PoE's problem is that it's not accessible to beginners. Even hardcore players have to start somewhere, & PoE would benefit from simplification/ streamlining
D4 is designed for consoles. Of course it's uber casual.
I got chills watching how Quin react to this expansion.
D4 OMEGALUL
Imagine being a Blizzard employee and watching this, it must be painful AF
While it is omegalul, lets be realistic, Blizz will make tons off D4, at the end of the day that's all that matters(realistically)
They might as well be different genres because they chase a completely different audience
not really, this game is fun only to nerds
@@Enfetamina Lol yeah ikr. I dont want to have to think this much just to make a build to play an action RPG. I wish there were games that were more complex than D3 but less complex than PoE
@@scarlet8078 It's not a problem with thinking too much as it's really not that hard to plow through the game and destroy everything. All the min maxing people do is not required, especially if you play a spell or minion build. My issue with the game has more to do with the gameplay itself. PoE is riddled with dev decisions that I don't agree with (speed meta, shitty co-op, trading, the atlas, sulfite requirements) and I feel the playerbase is too rigid to ever allow for change. -It's not a bad game but I can rarely last longer than a week with each new season before getting bored.
Maven 10 Tomorrow or i delete my twitch account.
A lot of people conplaining thats to much stuff. This expansion makes clear that you dont have to do all existing mechanics. Choose some, farm currency on those, buy the stuff that you are not farming and min/max your build. The only mandatory thing is to get watchsones and complete your atlas bonuses.
as a new player to POE i have no fkn idea what is happening...lol
React Content!! LET'S FUCKED GOOOOOOOO!!
Ive never sat down with this game yet. Im a huge Diablo fan and even liked Diablo 3. I guess this game is recommended? Looks gigantic compared to D3.
Well, the story is told really badly. The combat is a mess, nothing has a cooldown so you just pick one skill from early levels and use that for the rest of the game (similar to Diablo 2), the combat is WAY WAY too fast and everything is about speed. There is ONE cutscene in the entire game and that's not even good. The content is bloated, there's just too much of everything. You basically need to buy stash tabs if you want to play the game after playing the campaign (it's not much, only like, 10 euroes to get what you need). 90 % of the armour looks incredibly bad (not the ones you can buy for real money, they look amazing). One armour skin costs like 20 euroes, so the store is highly overpriced.
But the game has good customization for your character, the passive skill tree is kinda big (but so, so many useless nodes) and there is bound to be at least one way for you to enjoy the game. I'd recommend it if you prefer min/maxing and nitpicking on your gear, but not if you're into smooth gameplay and story.
Diablo 1 > Grim Dawn > Diablo 3 > Path of Exile > Titan Quest > Torchlight 1/2 > Diablo 2.
DIablo 3 = 2 things to do, rift and greater rift
PoE = 50 things to do
@@Koitsuba that's a yikes lmao diablo 3 fanboy writing an essay trying to discourage people playing a game that is 100x better than diablo 3
as a huge diablo fan aswell (diablo 2 mainly) PoE is what Diablo 3 should have been , many diablo fan said PoE is more of a diablo 2 successor than D3 is. Diablo 3 was a huge disapointment for me and many diablo fans, There is a reason why PoE is still HUGE after all these years, the game is very overwhelming with all the content and customization but it's 100% worth it if you are into diablo or any arpg at all , by far the best.
@@masterace1071 If you think that is an essay, I don't blame you for liking Path of Exile that much...
Also, Diablo 3 is very different from Path of Exile, you can't say it's better or worse. It's more of an arcade game that is amazing for people who are starting up to play ARPG's. Path of Exile is not. It's a min/maxing math problem that gets good after you understand it. Two different games. And like I said; I like Path of Exile.
But the community of the game is pretty much elitists who are wanking off to the game (and to Diablo 2) because reasons. And you kind of proved that point. It's really easy to enjoy both games and not hate the other, but apparently this is also an "essay", so you probably won't have the time to read it.
When the PoE League contains more Content then the whole Dia3 game. LMAO
all praise Le Toucan, keeping POE free and the celestial demons at bay,
praise
Praise
"bad coding incoming".. Just imagine the amount of coding needed to make all of this work.. jeez
Not so much on multiple bosses, the rest is just tweaking numbers although GGG is notorious to fail there.
coding is no problem the made there own game engine
Shoutouts to D4's Skill Twig
Twig!!!
bhahahaha.
Diablo dev team: "RED ALERT!!!"
love the outtro!!!
The Maven: one who seeks to pass timely and relevant knowledge on to others in the respective field.
I like the outro. GOD GAMER
the Envoy is infact Sméagol in disguise
WTF ...soooo many changes, bruh. This is overwhelming!
I feel like these more important vids like this one or Diablo Immortal first time play etc should be on main Quin69 channel.
"if you're persistent and talented." End video.
Quin's chance of survival in this league. -5000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000%
Are they gonna release this on phone?
I'm asking for a friend
Don't you guys have pc? - POE devs
@@孙祎彤 no I don't have a pc
Good day
@@孙祎彤 I don’t think he gets the reference 😅
Lol Quons brain was fried
Chris ''El Cutis'' Wilson
Alkaizer is sleeping untill this goes live. he will be number 1 again. and quin will be last
OUTRO OMEGALUL
When will they remove Labs
6:02 BOOBA AWOOOGA
LIke your hype, didnt like your nervousness. Chill dude.
Maven when?
IM A NEW PLAYER AND IM SWEATING ALREADY
QuinPleb
hope the dont destroy saboteur passive skill tree
too bad im starting college next week :P
!claim
Bow league pog
Cant wait for diablo 4.
this is just too much for my braincell
is this new game?
Its similar to diablo 3 but a lot more complex in depth. It's also f2p to play so you can give it a try :)
Goddamn quinn you talk too much over Chris -.-
Funny how the expansion focuses on how far you can push yourself with your power, but this coming Expedition league everything is getting nerfed. Doesn't really fit with theme of the expansion.
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So basically GGG just flipped the middle finger to gaining any new players. The game already is so based around RnG that its just not fun anymore, everything literally everything is based on RnG. Now instead of making the base game more accessible to new players and growing your player base they are just adding in even more complex and confusing mechanics that will ultimately end up breaking the core gameplay just like nearly every league has done so far. Tailoring your game only to your most hardcore player base is not a good idea for longevity of a game. Sure these players are the ones that are spending the most money on the store but this wont last forever.
Way wah babyrage game too complex me brain hurts weirdude. Frick new players.
Peepolove.
Just wait for D4 4Head
"if you activate this node, you will get sulphite after a map ends"
OmG ThIs Is So CoMpleX itS nOt NeW pLaYeR fRiEnDlY aT aLl
Path of Exile is a nice game, but i don't like doin 10000 different things to get crafting materials, game got so confusing over the last years
or maybe you are just more of a d4 kind of guy
@@TheRealAstronaut123 Not really :D
@@hantwan966 Good for you, then get nerding =)
It's not confusing. It's boring. Those 10k different things aren't that different. At their core they force you to repeat hack and slash to the extremes, so no wonder you're fed up.
If only the players had to consider altitude, this would make some portion of the repetition more interesting and bearable. You may stretch the game only so far before its back breaks. Too much shooting and looting ruins a looter-shooter just as too fast speedrunning ruins a horror game. PoE is not an exception. Its back will break sooner or later if it doesn't receive a balancing act. They should consider making an MMO and widen the approach methods the players have. Current approach hasn't changed much since the beginning, albeit couple leagues do try their best to diverge from it. It's just not enough.
@@Tyrannimarja I am sorry, but you just come of as a random dude, who this game is just not for. This is the league me and my friends have been hyped for the most since beta, because we feel it adds so many things it needs. Clearly the game developers agree, as a result it just seems, that you are not the target group. Some people like magic the gathering, some like hearthstone. Some like PoE it just seems D3 is more up your alley and D4 will likely be even better.
To much irrelevant shit xP.
what's irrelevant?
@@nrimagecreativehub1215 to much focus on customation instead of actuall gameplay, everything is an aoe splatter show that everything and all dont matter, you just getter better gear to make bigger or moore coulurfull splatters on the screen, but that being sed, some of the boss mechanics seem fun.
konzori yeah that's how the game works. What more do you want?
@@nrimagecreativehub1215 something new.
@@konzori sorry, but in this case maybe it is time to get a new game, nobody really wants to force you into playing the "irrelevant shit" if you don't feel like doing it, just don't.
I am not sure if it is your case, but this days people treat games as if they are jobs.