Knowing what we know now, everyone who in the Seventh Wars said “make some improvements, come back next time!” Physically hurts. Trax was by far one of my favorite newcomers that never got another shot due to the show being cancelled…
@@xtheamazingax I understand that many consider rambots being boring but there's some incredible engineering that goes into those machines such as Storm 2. Mentorn are just scumbags.
@@TheScrabbleKing not as far as i know because they do have active weapons. the drum spinner, the flail and scoop combo to name a few. when they push at the same time their drum spinner, if the have that on, will cause damage. the fact that Mentorn was just annoyed with rambots, which are essentially "full body hammers" not to mention the fact they tried to rig every fight Storm 2 was in ESPECIALLY during their fight against Tornado in the Grand Final shows how bullshit and unfair they are. i mean Tornado started off as a rambot before they added their interchangable weaponry. also they used a ruddy big spike in their fight against Anarchy which essentially made Tornado a rambot again with no "active" weapon. Idk if i went off topic there so i apologise if i have but i hope you get what i'm trying to say.
@@PokeGuy6 Absolutely agree with that. And (IMO) Tornado's 'active weapons' were just there to satisfy some requirement of the rules, their effect was trivial compared with the effect of being rammed by Tornado (or Storm 2, obviously) at full speed. Were Panic Attack's forks 'active weapons'? Was Behemoth's scoop an 'active weapon'? They moved, but they didn't - in themselves - cause damage. What about Stinger's tail - that had no moving parts, so how did that differ in principle from being rammed by Storm? I think the 'active weapon' rule was nonsense.
One thing I missed about Storm 2 in Series 8 was that it wasn't face warpingly fast. I find it pretty fun seeing it slam opponents into the wall at the speed of an Indycar.
That's what a couple of LEMCO motors give you, outrageous torque and stupid amounts of speed, it's a real shame they downgraded them to Mag motors for the reboot, ironically they did it for reliability and yet they never broke down until the reboot.
The only heat that doesn't have any special events. Before the Heat I final, recapping the first 8 heat winners, hence the reason the 7th wars reaches the halfway point.
One of my favourite heats of S7. Got the powerhouse that is Storm 2 (Plus probably the single most memorable OOTA of this series), Trax, which is one of my favourite bots (Tracks and a front hinge flipper? God I love Shane Swann) and a bunch of amazing fights (I'm not a fan of round 1 melees bu they were both excellent)
If you had to ask me for a side event for this heat, it would be a Reserve Rumble. They had it in the second wars Grudge Matches. And it could have had a seven way melee.
Was thinking this myself. I'm sure with one of the others Jonathan said "that for me is unsafe and cease should be called.... and is" but here he's just like aww that's just Matilda she does that all the time.
If you look carefully towards the end of the fight, it seems that the polycarb panel had been replaced. It's most likely the fight was stopped and not included in the edit.
@@leefisher6366 He was in all 3 of the revival seasons- the first with Dantomkia (which he bought) and the other two with his own robot Push to Exit which is not too dissimilar in design to Trax.
No, vertical spinners have done it. X-terminator threw Tsunami out in the previous heat. Big Nipper launched Smash (one half of Crackers 'n' Smash) into the stratosphere. Not sure if Aftershock ever managed it. Matilda did it to Ceros in an earlier heat in this series, though I refuse to credit house robots. I'm not sure if a horizontal spinner like Carbide ever managed it, though it did try to throw Smash right through the arena side wall once.
It's the second half of the S7 heats, I can't be arsed to do a full review and most people said it wasn't good when I was doing it so fuck it, lets' mix it up and just review each robot individually rather than the fights. Storm 2: A+ Literally nothing bad to say about Ed Hoppitt's machine. It's excellently engineered, brilliantly driven and brilliantly stylish in a way that Tornado just isn't at this stage. A fully deserving winner. Steel Avenger: B+ It's easy to mock SA, and people on youtube often do for the poor front design it has, but looking at the list of robots that beat it, they are all exceptional machines. John Willoughby is teased by Craig for not updating his machine, but he's been fine tuning SA1 and it shows with his driving skill, the way the axe can do a lot more damage, and the fact that he never, ever gives up. Ed said that it's an out of date robot and should break, but I doubt it would have. SA isn't a robot that falls apart easily, and fights to the bitter end even if it's outclassed. Trax: B+ Shane Swann's second machine after the very 'meh' Hell's Teeth, and a good one at that. In a weaker heat this was definitely heat final material, but against Storm 2 there's very little answer for the tracks with little grip and too high ground clearance. Here's hoping Push to Exit does better in the next series. Rhino: C Luck more than anything got it through the first round, and the armour is not tough enough to stand up to Steel Avenger's axe. The flipper isn't bad, but it's narrow - it's all very well claiming to make a robot based off an animal, but you're in the same series as Ceros, which was a lot more impressively driven and engineered, so of course you're not going to get as high a mark as them. I honestly preferred Reactor 2 - it wasn't a Box on Wheels at all! Supernova: C+ The robot the Americans love, and I'm somewhat indifferent about. It had the power to rip off Mayhem's wheels but I suspect Storm 2 could have done that, as could Shredder, so it's not really as impressive as it might be. Hit by the same issue it's had times before, with too small wheels to keep it driving, though that attack on Killalot from Storm 2 caused the most expensive repair to a house robot ever. As people have mentioned, it'll get a proper showdown with Storm 2 in the World Championships. Mayhem: D This is strangely close to a design that Supernova would adopt for Series 9, but this thing barely has time to blink before it's hit and knocked out. Very little to say, honestly. Shredder Evolution: B+ A high rank for a machine that went down early, but it really could have gone either way. Arguably Steel Avenger should have gone out at this stage because of the damage and aggression SE caused - it would have made just as good a fight against Rhino and just as poorly against Storm 2. But as I said, John Willoughby never puts on a bad show. Subversion 1.1: D- This is clearly a joke entry at this stage, which considering how much they needed to stretch to get entries in for this series, you can more or less understand. They went in with a good attitude, but what on earth were they armoured with to let Shredder do such damage.
Push to exit was season 9 or 10 because in season 8 he competed with dantomkia did not make it put of the heats unfortunately but I like storm 2 more then tornado an do not underestimated steel avengers or trax its just a shame it hade to be the Same heat as storm 2 I think then can at least get to semi finals it's a shame with supernover it's the same at the remake it just kills itself in the end it is a a powerful spinner
Trax was the front runner of the battle for sure, but what I think the controversy is that Shredder Evolution dealt a lot of damage to Sub-Version 1.1, yet Steel Avenger was only able to control Shredder Evolution, despite delivering about 1% of damage to it, and Steel Avenger was also being outcontrolled by Trax. That's how close the battle was.
I can’t be the only one who thinks SuperNova got screwed surely? He fucking Ripped Mayhem a new one while Rhino did literally NOTHING the entire fight! IMO they should’ve put SuperNova through.
I felt a bit sorry for Trax being drawn against Storm 2 - against Steel Avenger or Rhino I think Trax may well have won. But then they would just have come up against Storm 2 in the final anyway. Top marks to Trax for lasting the whole bout without significant damage, anyway. Strom 2 - ridiculous putting a weapon on it, it just dilutes the concept. Didn't need it, didn't use it. Awesome robot.
Storm 2 was definitely a more exciting box than Tornado. Tornado was definitely exciting in its own methodical way, but I'm not sure how you can compete against a robot that can ram its opponents out of the arena! Plus Ed Hoppitt's less of a douchecanoe than Andrew Marchant.
@@stevedimmock930 not necessarily. They would have added more strength in my opinion, that way they wouldnt have been as easily pushed around by Storm 2. Tornados strength was its persistent doggedness and brute strength pushing wise. It was very manoeuvrable and could evade with its nippiness. Storm 2 was super quick but in my opinion not as easily controlled as Tornado,, Tornado just couldnt push it around enough which Im sure they would have corrected after this series.
@@therebel4332tornado were taking it to storm 2 power wise until they were flipped over cos then their wedge was the opposite way. It was fairly even until that happened
Let the Wars begin? More like let the rigging begin. As officially stated by Mentorn, they saw a "Box on Wheels" boring and would rather have destructive spinners or flippers that toss bots around. No idea if they were just having their own ideals or really needing views, although I'd say it's probably more the former which makes this even more stupid(see the Trashtalking False Drama started in Extreme) Because a Rammer totally can't be loved for just slamming around bots and showing good driving, no it needs to be DESTRUCTION... Further on, so many bots were just lacking in quality, half of those "spinners" didn't even work or couldn't inflict any damage, yeah great thing... yet you screwed out veterans like Stinger and whatnot by those rules. But hey, being an ass about this wasn't the only thing, actively rigging matches had to be done and this, plus something else, just lead to the downfall of this series... Years later, and we still have similar nonsense going on with Battlebots Season 2's new rules(which came up due to a different bot than the one they wanted to win), but hey, people actually support those and so do some roboteers that get advantage out of it... Plus with how Society is nowdays, people are "braindead" enough to just want destruction... But that wasn't the only thing that returned, bad and inconsistent sending times? Battlebots Season 2 and RW Series 10 say hello, in both cases it lead to the series not getting as many views and being cancelled as such, oh, I don't know, broadcasting inconsistently or at worse times totally doesn't fuck up stuff, now does it? Here's hope that one day we have a neutral Robot Combat show where the focus is the fights, Robots and Roboteers themselves.
Spinners ultimately ruined Robot Wars. All you needed was a financial backer and you could build a ridiculous fly wheel spinning little body bot that just tears up everything thats it job done. For me the revival (series 8 onwards) was absolutely awful,, once they realised idiots wanted to see spinners on wheels it was game over. Series 2-6 was its peak competition. Series 6 was utterly ruined by them allowing Tornado to do what they did in the grand final though.
@@therebel4332 I wouldn't necessarily say so, as a wedge out of a strong material (usually Hardox) withstands a spinning weapon well, deflecting it's energy which in turn also causes the spinner to take damage. If you've seen robot combat from the last 5-8 years, you should know that that's basically common practice at this point. Regarding Tornado, you seem to be another person that's unaware about several things, as the frame was not only within the rules but also used in the US Robot Wars competition previously against Razer (hence why they made the hook attachment this time) so everyone was well aware of this, with it not being a last second addition. Regarding them being "unpittable", once all four of their wheels would've been over the pit, they should be considered immobile, and as such end the battle, and if that doesn't count, the 30 second immobility rule would kick in. Razer almost fully had them over the pit and just needed to let go of them, so they had almost won the fight if that makes it any better to you.
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Knowing what we know now, everyone who in the Seventh Wars said “make some improvements, come back next time!” Physically hurts.
Trax was by far one of my favorite newcomers that never got another shot due to the show being cancelled…
32:05 yeah.. this is one of many examples. I also feel hurt by the fact it was canceled, especially because it was just getting so much better.
Interviewer: What's your primary weapon?
Storm II: Other robots.
Interviewer: I'm sorry, it's what?
Storm II: 7:20
The moment storm two entered the arena, mentorn was out for blood.
It's not right how they treated Storm 2... not right at all.
@@xtheamazingax I understand that many consider rambots being boring but there's some incredible engineering that goes into those machines such as Storm 2. Mentorn are just scumbags.
@@PokeGuy6 And they never really gave Tornado nearly this much crap, did they?
@@TheScrabbleKing not as far as i know because they do have active weapons. the drum spinner, the flail and scoop combo to name a few. when they push at the same time their drum spinner, if the have that on, will cause damage. the fact that Mentorn was just annoyed with rambots, which are essentially "full body hammers" not to mention the fact they tried to rig every fight Storm 2 was in ESPECIALLY during their fight against Tornado in the Grand Final shows how bullshit and unfair they are. i mean Tornado started off as a rambot before they added their interchangable weaponry. also they used a ruddy big spike in their fight against Anarchy which essentially made Tornado a rambot again with no "active" weapon.
Idk if i went off topic there so i apologise if i have but i hope you get what i'm trying to say.
@@PokeGuy6 Absolutely agree with that. And (IMO) Tornado's 'active weapons' were just there to satisfy some requirement of the rules, their effect was trivial compared with the effect of being rammed by Tornado (or Storm 2, obviously) at full speed. Were Panic Attack's forks 'active weapons'? Was Behemoth's scoop an 'active weapon'? They moved, but they didn't - in themselves - cause damage. What about Stinger's tail - that had no moving parts, so how did that differ in principle from being rammed by Storm? I think the 'active weapon' rule was nonsense.
One thing I missed about Storm 2 in Series 8 was that it wasn't face warpingly fast. I find it pretty fun seeing it slam opponents into the wall at the speed of an Indycar.
That laugh at 20:55!
The last appearance of the totally awesome Steel Avenger
7:42 the worst abuse sir killalot ever endured
That was impressive from Storm II to simply ram Steel Avenger out of the arena.
That's what a couple of LEMCO motors give you, outrageous torque and stupid amounts of speed, it's a real shame they downgraded them to Mag motors for the reboot, ironically they did it for reliability and yet they never broke down until the reboot.
Team Mayhem: 'We didn't come here to lose'. With exposed tyres, er... yes, you actually did.
Exposed wheels don’t always equal instant loss, plenty of robot champs with exposed wheels. Original Sin, Sewer Snake, Tombstone to name a few
Damn! Storm 2 rammed Steel Avenger out of the arena. "who needs a flipper when you've got a robot like that?!" says Craig Charles
A shame Supernova went out, brilliant robot and always does serious damage
@@TPH250290 and others.....
Sir k weakness is exposed
The only heat that doesn't have any special events. Before the Heat I final, recapping the first 8 heat winners, hence the reason the 7th wars reaches the halfway point.
Storm 2 is a work of art
Mayhem looks like a shorter version of Supernova
Storm 2 and Supernova would face each other again in the Third World Championship
Sam Giles that battle was worse and weak
One of my favourite heats of S7. Got the powerhouse that is Storm 2 (Plus probably the single most memorable OOTA of this series), Trax, which is one of my favourite bots (Tracks and a front hinge flipper? God I love Shane Swann) and a bunch of amazing fights (I'm not a fan of round 1 melees bu they were both excellent)
If you had to ask me for a side event for this heat, it would be a Reserve Rumble. They had it in the second wars Grudge Matches. And it could have had a seven way melee.
My god, i've never seen killalot wounded.
So you never saw that moment in the Fifth Wars in a fight between Tornado and Pussycat when Killalot got set on fire?
@@TheInvertedFollicle507 "It's just a flesh wound."
@@PelemusMcSoy of course it is, I'm sure it'll buff right out.
@@PelemusMcSoy It is merely but a scratch.
What's up with Craig calling every judges decision controversial when they make perfect sense...
Not every time.
Big Nipper comes directly to mind for losing based on the judges decision when he clearly deserved the win.
He thought Steel Avenger shouldn’t have gone through. I think at least.
7:31 If you look carefully one of Sir Killalot's Tank Track Wheels got sliced off by Supernova as well as The Track getting sliced in half
6:30 Its Okay For A House Robot To Destroy An Arena Wall.... But Not A Competitor Like Typhoon Or Gravity
Was thinking this myself. I'm sure with one of the others Jonathan said "that for me is unsafe and cease should be called.... and is" but here he's just like aww that's just Matilda she does that all the time.
Supernova just avoiding for first match lol, glad they got punished
I just wanna point out, 6:31 Excuse me Mentorn... WHERE'S THE STOPPAGE? THE ARENA'S UNSAFE!
If you look carefully towards the end of the fight, it seems that the polycarb panel had been replaced. It's most likely the fight was stopped and not included in the edit.
7:21 That had to 🤕
_Sees the name "Shane Swan."_
Wait a second, isn't he... wow.
Er, you're going to have to explain this. Is he famous somehow else?
@@leefisher6366 He was in all 3 of the revival seasons- the first with Dantomkia (which he bought) and the other two with his own robot Push to Exit which is not too dissimilar in design to Trax.
@@PKSandman He also shows Afghan Hounds
Tornado looking at storm II: O_O
Surely the only time a non-flipper ever got anyone out of the arena? 😶
No, vertical spinners have done it. X-terminator threw Tsunami out in the previous heat. Big Nipper launched Smash (one half of Crackers 'n' Smash) into the stratosphere. Not sure if Aftershock ever managed it. Matilda did it to Ceros in an earlier heat in this series, though I refuse to credit house robots.
I'm not sure if a horizontal spinner like Carbide ever managed it, though it did try to throw Smash right through the arena side wall once.
@@cr10001 Matilda did it a few times in both the classic series and the reboot.
Wow. I didn't know Shaun Murphy and Margherita Taylor lived double lives as roboteers.
38:22 to skip the showreel of previous heats.
It's the second half of the S7 heats, I can't be arsed to do a full review and most people said it wasn't good when I was doing it so fuck it, lets' mix it up and just review each robot individually rather than the fights.
Storm 2: A+
Literally nothing bad to say about Ed Hoppitt's machine. It's excellently engineered, brilliantly driven and brilliantly stylish in a way that Tornado just isn't at this stage. A fully deserving winner.
Steel Avenger: B+
It's easy to mock SA, and people on youtube often do for the poor front design it has, but looking at the list of robots that beat it, they are all exceptional machines. John Willoughby is teased by Craig for not updating his machine, but he's been fine tuning SA1 and it shows with his driving skill, the way the axe can do a lot more damage, and the fact that he never, ever gives up. Ed said that it's an out of date robot and should break, but I doubt it would have. SA isn't a robot that falls apart easily, and fights to the bitter end even if it's outclassed.
Trax: B+
Shane Swann's second machine after the very 'meh' Hell's Teeth, and a good one at that. In a weaker heat this was definitely heat final material, but against Storm 2 there's very little answer for the tracks with little grip and too high ground clearance. Here's hoping Push to Exit does better in the next series.
Rhino: C
Luck more than anything got it through the first round, and the armour is not tough enough to stand up to Steel Avenger's axe. The flipper isn't bad, but it's narrow - it's all very well claiming to make a robot based off an animal, but you're in the same series as Ceros, which was a lot more impressively driven and engineered, so of course you're not going to get as high a mark as them. I honestly preferred Reactor 2 - it wasn't a Box on Wheels at all!
Supernova: C+
The robot the Americans love, and I'm somewhat indifferent about. It had the power to rip off Mayhem's wheels but I suspect Storm 2 could have done that, as could Shredder, so it's not really as impressive as it might be. Hit by the same issue it's had times before, with too small wheels to keep it driving, though that attack on Killalot from Storm 2 caused the most expensive repair to a house robot ever. As people have mentioned, it'll get a proper showdown with Storm 2 in the World Championships.
Mayhem: D
This is strangely close to a design that Supernova would adopt for Series 9, but this thing barely has time to blink before it's hit and knocked out. Very little to say, honestly.
Shredder Evolution: B+
A high rank for a machine that went down early, but it really could have gone either way. Arguably Steel Avenger should have gone out at this stage because of the damage and aggression SE caused - it would have made just as good a fight against Rhino and just as poorly against Storm 2. But as I said, John Willoughby never puts on a bad show.
Subversion 1.1: D-
This is clearly a joke entry at this stage, which considering how much they needed to stretch to get entries in for this series, you can more or less understand. They went in with a good attitude, but what on earth were they armoured with to let Shredder do such damage.
Push to exit was season 9 or 10 because in season 8 he competed with dantomkia did not make it put of the heats unfortunately but I like storm 2 more then tornado an do not underestimated steel avengers or trax its just a shame it hade to be the Same heat as storm 2 I think then can at least get to semi finals it's a shame with supernover it's the same at the remake it just kills itself in the end it is a a powerful spinner
That first rumble had way too much power in it. Lol
42:33 Your welcome
Steel Avenger were underrated, deserved to be seeded instead of Smidsy or Ming.
I experienced some quality/sound issues when converting this episode. Hopefully none have translated into the upload.
What controversy? Shredder was on the ropes. Trax and Steel Avenger were obvious winners.
Trax was the front runner of the battle for sure, but what I think the controversy is that Shredder Evolution dealt a lot of damage to Sub-Version 1.1, yet Steel Avenger was only able to control Shredder Evolution, despite delivering about 1% of damage to it, and Steel Avenger was also being outcontrolled by Trax. That's how close the battle was.
I can’t be the only one who thinks SuperNova got screwed surely? He fucking Ripped Mayhem a new one while Rhino did literally NOTHING the entire fight! IMO they should’ve put SuperNova through.
The one time when the show got its seeding (for accomplishments in side events) right.
I felt a bit sorry for Trax being drawn against Storm 2 - against Steel Avenger or Rhino I think Trax may well have won. But then they would just have come up against Storm 2 in the final anyway. Top marks to Trax for lasting the whole bout without significant damage, anyway.
Strom 2 - ridiculous putting a weapon on it, it just dilutes the concept. Didn't need it, didn't use it. Awesome robot.
The producers had no clue that the weapon was the whole robot itself
Did we ever see what the "new robot" the guys of Steel Avenger were alluding to or did it never come to fruition after the series being cancelled?
It was never completed, but there a few photos of it half-built on the Robot Wars Wiki (known as SA2)
UPPA STORM 2
Storm 2 was second in robot wars series 7. From Joe. From Joe. X
Typhoon 2 contreversially won the 7th wars. From Joe. X
Steel Avenger has high ground clearance? What?
That’s one weird kid 😂
Rhino vs SA exciting battle? What?
Storm 2 was definitely a more exciting box than Tornado. Tornado was definitely exciting in its own methodical way, but I'm not sure how you can compete against a robot that can ram its opponents out of the arena!
Plus Ed Hoppitt's less of a douchecanoe than Andrew Marchant.
I reckon if there was another series immediately after this one Tornado would have tried to upgrade their machine to make it more significantly faster
@@stevedimmock930 not necessarily. They would have added more strength in my opinion, that way they wouldnt have been as easily pushed around by Storm 2. Tornados strength was its persistent doggedness and brute strength pushing wise. It was very manoeuvrable and could evade with its nippiness. Storm 2 was super quick but in my opinion not as easily controlled as Tornado,, Tornado just couldnt push it around enough which Im sure they would have corrected after this series.
@@therebel4332tornado were taking it to storm 2 power wise until they were flipped over cos then their wedge was the opposite way. It was fairly even until that happened
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Let the Wars begin? More like let the rigging begin.
As officially stated by Mentorn, they saw a "Box on Wheels" boring and would rather have destructive spinners or flippers that toss bots around.
No idea if they were just having their own ideals or really needing views, although I'd say it's probably more the former which makes this even more stupid(see the Trashtalking False Drama started in Extreme)
Because a Rammer totally can't be loved for just slamming around bots and showing good driving, no it needs to be DESTRUCTION...
Further on, so many bots were just lacking in quality, half of those "spinners" didn't even work or couldn't inflict any damage, yeah great thing... yet you screwed out veterans like Stinger and whatnot by those rules.
But hey, being an ass about this wasn't the only thing, actively rigging matches had to be done and this, plus something else, just lead to the downfall of this series...
Years later, and we still have similar nonsense going on with Battlebots Season 2's new rules(which came up due to a different bot than the one they wanted to win), but hey, people actually support those and so do some roboteers that get advantage out of it...
Plus with how Society is nowdays, people are "braindead" enough to just want destruction...
But that wasn't the only thing that returned, bad and inconsistent sending times? Battlebots Season 2 and RW Series 10 say hello, in both cases it lead to the series not getting as many views and being cancelled as such, oh, I don't know, broadcasting inconsistently or at worse times totally doesn't fuck up stuff, now does it?
Here's hope that one day we have a neutral Robot Combat show where the focus is the fights, Robots and Roboteers themselves.
Spinners ultimately ruined Robot Wars. All you needed was a financial backer and you could build a ridiculous fly wheel spinning little body bot that just tears up everything thats it job done. For me the revival (series 8 onwards) was absolutely awful,, once they realised idiots wanted to see spinners on wheels it was game over. Series 2-6 was its peak competition. Series 6 was utterly ruined by them allowing Tornado to do what they did in the grand final though.
@@therebel4332 I wouldn't necessarily say so, as a wedge out of a strong material (usually Hardox) withstands a spinning weapon well, deflecting it's energy which in turn also causes the spinner to take damage.
If you've seen robot combat from the last 5-8 years, you should know that that's basically common practice at this point.
Regarding Tornado, you seem to be another person that's unaware about several things, as the frame was not only within the rules but also used in the US Robot Wars competition previously against Razer (hence why they made the hook attachment this time) so everyone was well aware of this, with it not being a last second addition.
Regarding them being "unpittable", once all four of their wheels would've been over the pit, they should be considered immobile, and as such end the battle, and if that doesn't count, the 30 second immobility rule would kick in.
Razer almost fully had them over the pit and just needed to let go of them, so they had almost won the fight if that makes it any better to you.
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