The z06 of this year did come with the 385hp. When paired with a six speed manual transmission and a ferrari toppling suspension it beats out the competition.
I just wonder how it would perform at the ring on modern racing tires like what all the high performance cars are on(they aren’t on stock street legal ties just to post a better but unrealistic lap time for the average owner).
Horribly wrong lol the Viper is in a completely different league from these 2, but wouldn't make much of a comparison of they just showed how dominating it really was I guess.
Yep....that is exactly what they said. Big ass front heavy v10, plowing into turns, its not a surprise really. Today with computers stuff is different but physics are still a thing. Story is the same now really with the c7 z06 still out performs cars twice its price. Now the c8 looks to take on exotics, should be interesting.
@Ryan 9638 Poor brakes and tires were the reason for the slower Nurburgring time with the gen 2 cars. Gen 3 started life as a convertible that speaks for itself. If you've ever taken a gen 2 to a track day with modern track tires and ran against a C5 Z06 you'd know what I mean.
This comparison shows the limits of average drivers. We all know a professional would edge out the Viper. With that said I'm impressed they got the Mustang faster then the Viper and a second slower then the Vette while the mustang has a chassis from 1979.
@@mattfarrar8566 No, it's lack of traction. Track tires don't grip in 45* degree weather. The 116 mph trap speed suggests a mid-to-low 12-second 1/4 mile with decent traction.
What I don't understand about this video is the viper having the slowest lap times. There was another video from a few years before this that I can no longer find with a viper gts being compared to a z06 and it blew it away in lap times. Bad driver? I guess we will never know.
+Sjamsucks I haven't seen a single review where the 01 ACR "blew away" the Z06 on the track. The ACR was an extremely crude car in comparison to the Z.
Still would take the Viper over the other two. I guess in terms of desirability and value, time has spoken and Viper leads then the Cobra R and the Z06 falls dead last.
Vette wins, Cheaper, better all around car, more reliable, more HP headroom, better MPG, and back then you can easily buy them, since the Cobra and Viper were what we call a "paper launch" meaning not easy to buy or only handful available.
I'm sorry Mustang guys but the Cobra doesn't belong in this fight. Anymore than my 2002 Firehawk Trans-Am would. Sure it would keep up but would still get left. Now...these cars are kittens compared to what we're driving today. Addendum- No matter what, the Zo6 is the true legend here. That LS6 is one potent setup and is what I basically did to my Firehawk in 03. I wasn't about to let any Mustang take me on, no sir.
@GT1 Riiight...first and foremost, before running your mouth further about cars maybe you should learn about them first, duh. I never once talked about a Camaro in my entire post. For reference A 2002 Firehawk Trans-Am is not a Camaro. For reference- I own a 2012 SS Camaro that does absolutely smoke Vettes and Vipers. Most Vipers come in at 500hp that's it and since the 2012 SS Camaro starts with 426hp bone stock it is very easy to push well past 500hp at only a fraction of the cost. Hell my 2017 Stinger Yellow Dodge Challenger RT Classic (daily driver) is hitting 440hp@425 ft.lb. of torque and if I wanted could smack Vipers down all day long. It gets great gas mileage so I keep it close to stock as zi can.
@GT1 You know what...I'm not done with you yet. Let me get this straight, admiring an engine now makes someone mad? No, it makes me a car guy and had you been one you would know that. Now, go troll someone else because you speak utter nonsense.
Lol. So the Cobra R, with FAR more power, superior suspension, weight distribution and larger, higher performance tires, puts out the same 0-60 time as a 98' Cobra? Ok, Motorweek lol
You must remember that this test is as is, as in straight from the manufacturer. Stock tires" more power doesn't always mean faster. Because of the more power comes wheel spin. Slap some Nitto's get traction, better times.
Mike Richardson No. It's not 80 more horsepower. The 98' Cobra put down 255-260 at the wheels. The Cobra R was putting down 370 with a far superior torque curve at all RPM ranges. So you're really talking 135-140 more horsepower. The power-to-weight ratios aren't even close. And the 4.6 Cobra, in 98' at least(the 03-04s were designed specifically for drag racing, but that's another story), wasn't purpose-built for ANY racing, and had a crappy, easy-riding suspension, so that's a moot point. Take a read on the Cobra R. It has a brutal suspension that lends itself well to the 1320.
Last year one with 85 miles on it that was never sold, with all the interior plastic covers from the dealer sold for about $80,000. That is the most expensive one sold. They really dont command that much considering.
Depends on the miles. 2000 Vettes are cheap, the price your talking about is Z06 prices. You can get a base 2000 Vette anywhere from 12500-2000 depending on miles. You can get C6 Vettes in the 20s with low miles surprisingly as well.
Utah county Picazo's page no shit bc that 4.6 is lame af compared to the 5.0 beforehand. That was a step back except for the cobra 4.6 but that should have been standard
typically shit comparison, top of the range Z06 corvette...top of the range COBRA R Mustang...vs base model viper...LMAO how bout an ACR viper at least or a Hennessey viper or obviously an SVS viper...i am biased but this was never an apple vs apple, its pathetic
You must live in an alternate universe where facts don't matter or you are ignorant of them. As Alan Rowley said, it was an ACR. However, you showed delusions of grandeur when you couldn't possibly imagine yourself being wrong. If you are biased, and biased as fuck you are, then why do you think you have a claim in judging the value of these tests?
Which pixel was the Mustang ?
I know im late but this is funny!!
The cobra r hands down one of the best looking mustangs ever
The z06 of this year did come with the 385hp. When paired with a six speed manual transmission and a ferrari toppling suspension it beats out the competition.
I just wonder how it would perform at the ring on modern racing tires like what all the high performance cars are on(they aren’t on stock street legal ties just to post a better but unrealistic lap time for the average owner).
2000 cobra r is one of my dream cars
are you trying to tell me that the viper is the slowest around the track???
TommyVercettism Transmission directly behind big V10 kills agility in the Viper.
this isnt accurate. Viper is easily the best.
Horribly wrong lol the Viper is in a completely different league from these 2, but wouldn't make much of a comparison of they just showed how dominating it really was I guess.
Yep....that is exactly what they said. Big ass front heavy v10, plowing into turns, its not a surprise really. Today with computers stuff is different but physics are still a thing. Story is the same now really with the c7 z06 still out performs cars twice its price. Now the c8 looks to take on exotics, should be interesting.
@Ryan 9638 Poor brakes and tires were the reason for the slower Nurburgring time with the gen 2 cars. Gen 3 started life as a convertible that speaks for itself. If you've ever taken a gen 2 to a track day with modern track tires and ran against a C5 Z06 you'd know what I mean.
This comparison shows the limits of average drivers. We all know a professional would edge out the Viper. With that said I'm impressed they got the Mustang faster then the Viper and a second slower then the Vette while the mustang has a chassis from 1979.
Zo6 all the way . And you can’t beat the price
can anyone get a link to the full episode. and ya these guys dont do the viper justice. drivers are awful.
5.4 to 60 and 13;400 a stock SS or WS6 will do that
Lol its a 16 year old track car stfu
13.4@116 that's insanity and terrible driving. A ss or ws6 traps 107 at best. Not even close.
@@mattfarrar8566 No, it's lack of traction. Track tires don't grip in 45* degree weather. The 116 mph trap speed suggests a mid-to-low 12-second 1/4 mile with decent traction.
What I don't understand about this video is the viper having the slowest lap times. There was another video from a few years before this that I can no longer find with a viper gts being compared to a z06 and it blew it away in lap times. Bad driver? I guess we will never know.
+Sjamsucks I haven't seen a single review where the 01 ACR "blew away" the Z06 on the track. The ACR was an extremely crude car in comparison to the Z.
Crude how?
BEBNC1 may not "blow it away" but it should win 8/10 times
Rriiigghht because all drivers are alike
Still would take the Viper over the other two. I guess in terms of desirability and value, time has spoken and Viper leads then the Cobra R and the Z06 falls dead last.
motor week has the worst drivers I have ever seen
Vette wins, Cheaper, better all around car, more reliable, more HP headroom, better MPG, and back then you can easily buy them, since the Cobra and Viper were what we call a "paper launch" meaning not easy to buy or only handful available.
😅🤣🤣🤣
If they only knew what the cars would be like 20 years later..
I'm sorry Mustang guys but the Cobra doesn't belong in this fight. Anymore than my 2002 Firehawk Trans-Am would. Sure it would keep up but would still get left. Now...these cars are kittens compared to what we're driving today.
Addendum- No matter what, the Zo6 is the true legend here. That LS6 is one potent setup and is what I basically did to my Firehawk in 03. I wasn't about to let any Mustang take me on, no sir.
@GT1
Riiight...first and foremost, before running your mouth further about cars maybe you should learn about them first, duh. I never once talked about a Camaro in my entire post. For reference A 2002 Firehawk Trans-Am is not a Camaro.
For reference- I own a 2012 SS Camaro that does absolutely smoke Vettes and Vipers. Most Vipers come in at 500hp that's it and since the 2012 SS Camaro starts with 426hp bone stock it is very easy to push well past 500hp at only a fraction of the cost. Hell my 2017 Stinger Yellow Dodge Challenger RT Classic (daily driver) is hitting 440hp@425 ft.lb. of torque and if I wanted could smack Vipers down all day long. It gets great gas mileage so I keep it close to stock as zi can.
@GT1
You know what...I'm not done with you yet. Let me get this straight, admiring an engine now makes someone mad? No, it makes me a car guy and had you been one you would know that. Now, go troll someone else because you speak utter nonsense.
They forgot to take out the propane, spark plugs
Nothing like 240p in 2014. Yikes
*2015
computerguy5437 No, I posted it in 2014. Moron.
*2016
Lol. So the Cobra R, with FAR more power, superior suspension, weight distribution and larger, higher performance tires, puts out the same 0-60 time as a 98' Cobra? Ok, Motorweek lol
Yeah, what's up with that? The 98 had 305 horsepower. This driver must have really sucked at shifting and take-off.
You must remember that this test is as is, as in straight from the manufacturer. Stock tires" more power doesn't always mean faster. Because of the more power comes wheel spin. Slap some Nitto's get traction, better times.
The car is 200 lbs heavier and really only has 80 more hp so it's feasible. The car was also purpose built for the track not the drag strip.
Mike Richardson
No. It's not 80 more horsepower. The 98' Cobra put down 255-260 at the wheels. The Cobra R was putting down 370 with a far superior torque curve at all RPM ranges. So you're really talking 135-140 more horsepower. The power-to-weight ratios aren't even close.
And the 4.6 Cobra, in 98' at least(the 03-04s were designed specifically for drag racing, but that's another story), wasn't purpose-built for ANY racing, and had a crappy, easy-riding suspension, so that's a moot point. Take a read on the Cobra R. It has a brutal suspension that lends itself well to the 1320.
trap speed tells the difference. 116 is more than even a brand new stick 5.0 coyote '18+/SS/SRT8
thought the z06 has 405bhp that year? motorwk claimed 385?
+gone2secondzin123 2001 was 385 1st year Z06 2002-2004 had 405
Hate the spoiler on the cobra r
Mustang cobra more expensive than corvette ? I would take vette any day
no telling what a Cobra R is worth now, they only made 300. id take the R any day.
Last year one with 85 miles on it that was never sold, with all the interior plastic covers from the dealer sold for about $80,000. That is the most expensive one sold. They really dont command that much considering.
what does a 2000 vette go for, 25k? the r will only go up i would think. (googled some 2000 vette prices. any where from 13k to 25k)
Depends on the miles. 2000 Vettes are cheap, the price your talking about is Z06 prices. You can get a base 2000 Vette anywhere from 12500-2000 depending on miles. You can get C6 Vettes in the 20s with low miles surprisingly as well.
pretty cheap for the value i agree.
Lol Ford is a joke 5.4 should of been in the mustang since 1996
Utah county Picazo's page no shit bc that 4.6 is lame af compared to the 5.0 beforehand. That was a step back except for the cobra 4.6 but that should have been standard
typically shit comparison, top of the range Z06 corvette...top of the range COBRA R Mustang...vs base model viper...LMAO how bout an ACR viper at least or a Hennessey viper or obviously an SVS viper...i am biased but this was never an apple vs apple, its pathetic
it was a viper acr
You must live in an alternate universe where facts don't matter or you are ignorant of them. As Alan Rowley said, it was an ACR. However, you showed delusions of grandeur when you couldn't possibly imagine yourself being wrong. If you are biased, and biased as fuck you are, then why do you think you have a claim in judging the value of these tests?
@@joeyquigley3794 buddy your deffenently overthinking this! Lol viper fans boys! Smh!