Carlos Sainz reaction to Charles Leclerc crash | 2021 Monaco GP

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  • @joshieeee20
    @joshieeee20 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8832

    The change in his voice and attitude as the adrenaline rush slows

  • @mathewjones7663
    @mathewjones7663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1196

    EXPLANATION: He was about to set a good qualifying time and the crashed caused him to have to stop.

  • @suekeymems5163
    @suekeymems5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12978

    "I hope he's ok at least"..... That's cool, eventhough he's a bit frustrated.

    • @Ajmal-vt1fk
      @Ajmal-vt1fk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      What happened?

    • @BalintM7898
      @BalintM7898 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

      I think Carlos could get his first pole if Leclerc doesn't crash.

    • @suekeymems5163
      @suekeymems5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      @@Ajmal-vt1fk.....
      Yup a mishap on Leclerc that cost Carlos his pole position, i reckoned.....

    • @suekeymems5163
      @suekeymems5163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BalintM7898.....
      Yup.....
      Pity him.....

    • @ludvigtunander3495
      @ludvigtunander3495 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@suekeymems5163 ....
      ....
      ....
      Mm...

  • @Ryan-em1sv
    @Ryan-em1sv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4630

    “SAMIR! What are you doing man? You’re breaking the car”

  • @adambahri9369
    @adambahri9369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2979

    I'd like to think that the 'stay positive' phrase was for carlos attitude although it was most likely for the delta 😂

    • @Umlungu
      @Umlungu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      He was talking about covid

    • @seandouangaphaivong94
      @seandouangaphaivong94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Given that this is Ferrari engineers were talking about, they're only interested in the delta.

    • @Lukz99
      @Lukz99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      what does stay delta possitive mean?

    • @pierricus1399
      @pierricus1399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What even is the delta?

    • @Noakes_Karting
      @Noakes_Karting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@pierricus1399 he’s basically saying keep a distance from the other drivers

  • @masakisako4274
    @masakisako4274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1061

    Carlos is polite and has a warm heart,he said "I hope he's ok at least"even thought he's so disappointed.What a teammate❤️

  • @seangee4231
    @seangee4231 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3661

    He wanted to catch up fair n square, what a good guy

    • @Redha1o
      @Redha1o 3 ปีที่แล้ว +300

      No that's qualifying, he lost his chance to beat out his time. It's very unfair.

    • @RoboticBoxer152
      @RoboticBoxer152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@Redha1o the fact that the comment has 470 likes and yours has like 30 sucks :/

    • @TheOpinionGuyy
      @TheOpinionGuyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@RoboticBoxer152 life is not about likes my friend.

    • @RoboticBoxer152
      @RoboticBoxer152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@TheOpinionGuyy no I was saying it sucks because the top comment is completely false lol

    • @RoboticBoxer152
      @RoboticBoxer152 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@TheOpinionGuyy yet it’s the most liked comment

  • @DARKSHADEBLADE
    @DARKSHADEBLADE 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2869

    For Those wondering was happened the driver was doing amazing that day for a qualifying session (beating everyone and was in the lead) and because of the crash that happened it stopped the race early and now it doesn't count
    Good on him for worrying about the driver though perfectly understandable why he was upset

    • @nickepic1863
      @nickepic1863 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The competitive part of the motorsport is not to crash. This is stupid

    • @LargeInCharge77
      @LargeInCharge77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      @@nickepic1863 yes very stupid that the qualifier doesnt count now because of one drivers mistake

    • @tophr2710
      @tophr2710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@nickepic1863 the competitive part is out driving. If you crash then there's literally no competition.

    • @slayerdpimp9690
      @slayerdpimp9690 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@tophr2710 for you... but everyone else is still racing and competing

    • @arakwar
      @arakwar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@LargeInCharge77 When a driver crash you want everyone to slow down. Making it count would force drivers to keep their speed and maybe put the crashed f1 at risk.

  • @bartolomeumalfeitor965
    @bartolomeumalfeitor965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +660

    This is why I like to watch video compilations, cause they END. shorts never end

  • @mullipolli
    @mullipolli 2 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    He got shafted and then proceeded to say "I hope he's okay at least" what a man

    • @dannytonnessen6896
      @dannytonnessen6896 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wait crashing effects the other driver on the team as well...? How does it screw him...?

    • @neetsk12
      @neetsk12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@dannytonnessen6896 this was qualifying I think so a red flag means they have to start again and I think Carlos had pole position here so if they redid it, he might not have got it again hence the disappointment. Any crash from any member would bring a red flag and the quali would have to restart irrespective of which team or member.
      I'm not sure if he was getting pole but he was having good quali here.

    • @samuelrogers1046
      @samuelrogers1046 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@neetsk12 qualifying doesn't restart it just ends under red flag

  • @brandonharrington1422
    @brandonharrington1422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +112

    True sportsmanship

    • @alimanski7941
      @alimanski7941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was frustrated about being forced to slow down and ruin the great lap he had. This was not during the race, this was qualifying for the race.

  • @olnir4561
    @olnir4561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +886

    He was being the fastest in the first and second sector this time

    • @finnvoe038
      @finnvoe038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      No he wasnt, max was and carlos was also 2,5 tenths down on his delta

    • @ferst262
      @ferst262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@finnvoe038 he was being fastest

    • @GinoNL
      @GinoNL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      No, Max was behind him and got purple.

    • @GinoNL
      @GinoNL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ferst262 Nope. Watch the quali again. Max was fastest

    • @ferst262
      @ferst262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@GinoNL nope, Sainz was being fastest overall

  • @joeyoung1973
    @joeyoung1973 3 ปีที่แล้ว +331

    That Flagger. DID ONE HELLUVA JOB!!!!!

    • @kevintucker3354
      @kevintucker3354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes! Immediate and absolute reaction!!

    • @ownenk
      @ownenk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really did didnt he? He needs a raise

    • @valpodesideromontoya2097
      @valpodesideromontoya2097 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ownenk They are all volunteers, so you can't raise his pay if he's not getting paid at all^^

    • @PlaneAndSimple1
      @PlaneAndSimple1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@valpodesideromontoya2097 The Monaco marshalls are actually the only ones through the whole calendar that actually get paid by the Automobile Club de Monaco. Truly well deserved tbh.

  • @jonathantucker2728
    @jonathantucker2728 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    When your friend Love N Respect You
    Be Blessed

  • @TomTheCat.
    @TomTheCat. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +103

    When he went “Nooooo” it reminded me of Mario.

    • @Rainaman-
      @Rainaman- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Spanish Mario

  • @kevintucker3354
    @kevintucker3354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Welcome to life as a human, whatever it is you do....

    • @mandavaler
      @mandavaler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just hope reincarnation isn't real or ill be stuck in a loop suck starting shotguns

    • @mymusicmen13
      @mymusicmen13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mandavaler amen

  • @vexcsgo
    @vexcsgo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Why Spanish n Italians drivers react with the same tone when shit happens, it hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

    • @fillettru
      @fillettru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      That what we called accent dummy. Well atleast, better than indian accent.

    • @nickypoundtown9568
      @nickypoundtown9568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fillettru awwwww

    • @vexcsgo
      @vexcsgo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@fillettru i think its because their language is very similar

    • @gabrielaleidiandreu6799
      @gabrielaleidiandreu6799 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      We are like cousins really 😂

    • @othellotyrant3152
      @othellotyrant3152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      AAAAAHHHHHH.

  • @oliwierb.najdek9501
    @oliwierb.najdek9501 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Carlos’ race engineer sounds like he doesn’t give a @&£” about it anyway.

    • @Darkhunter218
      @Darkhunter218 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's a Ferrari of course he and the car are perfect!

    • @Supeerbiaa
      @Supeerbiaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Darkhunter218 good one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @kevintucker3354
    @kevintucker3354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    What a gentleman!!

  • @tokyo_fil
    @tokyo_fil หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Angry because he had possibly lost his position lol

  • @myhrebu8224
    @myhrebu8224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Technically he lined up at the correct place😂

  • @denismcmanus8740
    @denismcmanus8740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +386

    Definitely a future ferrari world champion

  • @plebtile3347
    @plebtile3347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Should lose your fastest lap when you red flag a session

    • @Not_A_Cat
      @Not_A_Cat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly.

    • @capcaaap1544
      @capcaaap1544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That makes absolutley no sense 😂 you must be butthurt. Merc fan clearly 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @plebtile3347
      @plebtile3347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@capcaaap1544 I don't understand the squiggly lines with the little pictures, could you use more emojis please? Thank you.

    • @cek0792
      @cek0792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@plebtile3347 I don't want drivers to get penalized through no fault of their own, what if they red flag a session due to a blown tire?

    • @plebtile3347
      @plebtile3347 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@cek0792 What if it happened on the last few laps of a race you're easily about to win? You lose the race. You crash out in quali and potentially skewing the results because of it there should be more consequences then just "Oh well... See you guys tomorrow."

  • @henkhakkertoene
    @henkhakkertoene ปีที่แล้ว +6

    legend has it this is why he didn't let Charles pass in brazil 2022

  • @AdK-qs8nh
    @AdK-qs8nh ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Pure and honest driver, real gentlemen.

  • @Belectraaaa
    @Belectraaaa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I hope he's okay at least🥺😩he's being kind and fair

  • @juliangriffiths9583
    @juliangriffiths9583 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    And ma guy still got p2 in the race

  •  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Carlos is sucha. Nice guy…

  • @isidrol.5980
    @isidrol.5980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    I’m not the best when is comes to these races so can someone explain what exactly happened? I understand the flags just not his reaction to them

    • @acceleratergun7597
      @acceleratergun7597 3 ปีที่แล้ว +404

      It happened in the final qualifying session, and the red flag ended the session early. Carlos was putting together a fantastic lap, and Leclerc’s crash meant it didn’t count.

    • @isidrol.5980
      @isidrol.5980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      @@acceleratergun7597 damn that must blow💀

    • @raulms4262
      @raulms4262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@Doobie_Jake no, it's not for that, it's just because he was in top 2 with Leclerc all weekend and because of a red flag he qualificated fourth

    • @BlakeT
      @BlakeT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@raulms4262 who is oekeki?

    • @MrHoodlin
      @MrHoodlin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@acceleratergun7597 Does anyone ever intentionally crash if they are losing?

  • @snif011
    @snif011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Everybody that doesn't understand F1 thinking he was frustrated about the crash 🤣

    • @elementartsofficial68
      @elementartsofficial68 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Wait, wasn't he? It seemed like as if he was trying to get a good time for qualifying and Charles crashed and made him lose that chance

    • @Yourewrongthough87
      @Yourewrongthough87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Moron

    • @sneekydart7359
      @sneekydart7359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Yourewrongthough87 who is?

    • @berry5000
      @berry5000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@sneekydart7359 andrew

  • @iimmortalldreams
    @iimmortalldreams ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Charles Leclerc's "nOOooo" is iconic at this point

  • @davi66urtin
    @davi66urtin ปีที่แล้ว +5

    sainz has had to deal with this shit since he joined ferrari

  • @Abdulsalam-nq3ez
    @Abdulsalam-nq3ez 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The pain in his voice

  • @TomBlu16
    @TomBlu16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He is frustrated because he was having a good laptime, but had to stop due to Charles' crash.
    I feel bad for both, it could of have been a nice race for them..

  • @69bock69
    @69bock69 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Seen him in Italy car broke down right where we was watching, little scooter came to collect him. Cool giy

  • @elinabratina5719
    @elinabratina5719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Carlos is so frendly people.

  • @Joege
    @Joege 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Oh it's Charles, OH WAIT IT IS CHARLES

  • @shree7899
    @shree7899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His engineer sounds like drunk guy with middle life crisis

  • @davidvoda5217
    @davidvoda5217 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He was sad because he was in a flying lap and the red flag intrerupted him to make the lap not because Leclerc crashed

  • @EfficientTrout
    @EfficientTrout ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the team comm sounded like he just woke up

  • @andreezarate5335
    @andreezarate5335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can feel his frustration :'c

  • @WaMo721
    @WaMo721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The one who crashed is his teammate Charles lecrec and he thinks it's unfair bcoz he suspects that Charles crashed on purpose so that the session will be cancelled and he will remain on pole position cuz Charles had already set the fastest time......Carlos also thought the team was behind it and it was ferrari master🅱️lan

    • @HellRyder18
      @HellRyder18 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If that's true... Served him well right? Zero points that race....

    • @actually_redbeard4995
      @actually_redbeard4995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HellRyder18 the reason he got zero points is because he didn't even get to race. When he crashed his car he messed up the gearbox and faced a 5 place grid penalty if Ferrari switched it out. Ferrari chose to risk it and try with the broken one and the car couldn't start on race day. So @Borgir made a good point, Leclerc's incident caused a little more damage than he intended and it bit him in the behind

    • @meisterkenobicrypto
      @meisterkenobicrypto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Borgir

    • @onewingedangel327
      @onewingedangel327 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fanfiction at its finest

  • @russellbradwell8910
    @russellbradwell8910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's adrenaline talking with a hint of remorse.

  • @xavier58yearsago76
    @xavier58yearsago76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    POV : You've been watching TH-cam shorts for an hour

  • @rahulakula4510
    @rahulakula4510 ปีที่แล้ว

    the video which got me into f1 completely i searched up carlos and then f1. Blah blah blah ah nostalgia

  • @christophercervantes5346
    @christophercervantes5346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for using the raw audio

  • @adityasaroj139
    @adityasaroj139 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the video that made me watch f1 sports…and i am glad for it.

  • @sam1079
    @sam1079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He's frustrated but he's a good guy

  • @andrealettich
    @andrealettich ปีที่แล้ว

    You can feel in the second,i cannot believe it, how frustrated Carlos was😅

  • @johncarey1980
    @johncarey1980 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was scared when I saw the flags cause I thought he'd hit them

  • @anoopkprasad9220
    @anoopkprasad9220 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope he's okey at least ❤️

  • @balajir5143
    @balajir5143 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sainz : This is unfair
    Leclerc : nothing, just an inCHIdent

  • @vassiliskouvakas800
    @vassiliskouvakas800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Classic Spanish -medeteranian guy. Love it 🤣

  • @iwillthinkofanamelater3341
    @iwillthinkofanamelater3341 ปีที่แล้ว

    "I CAN NOT BELEVE IT" shows how much pain he went throw and the fact that charles dident even start the race must have been a masive hit to him

  • @claudioc2631
    @claudioc2631 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Es un buen tipo carlos

  • @nigelwilson1070
    @nigelwilson1070 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are we going to talk about how fast that car slowed down !

  • @metehanbelen1185
    @metehanbelen1185 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sainz and Leclerc Duo>>>

  • @ccreamy7321
    @ccreamy7321 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All part of the Ferrari Master 🅱️lan

  • @zedanide6984
    @zedanide6984 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was afraid the flags were gonna hit his head

  • @tkracing5945
    @tkracing5945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bet he had best lap ever and this happens

  • @flushe7590
    @flushe7590 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Every man likes a biker-girl haha

  • @gerrytian5510
    @gerrytian5510 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can feel you 👍🙏

  • @jedjohnson6658
    @jedjohnson6658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You don't become the best by default wins

  • @i_M_a_G
    @i_M_a_G 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Объяснительная группа, вы где???

  • @RizzaRazzu
    @RizzaRazzu ปีที่แล้ว

    "Why you don't belivit?"

  • @djmc0590
    @djmc0590 ปีที่แล้ว

    One year later, he hits Perez exactly when he says " this is unfair" in this clip

  • @cake9963
    @cake9963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it just me or did the marshalls hand look like they were super close to the car?

  • @ramborabbit9590
    @ramborabbit9590 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Max had said this, the media would’ve cut out the part where he asked if he was okay. 😂

  • @kilogram8083
    @kilogram8083 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Ferrari engineers have the most
    uninspiring voice.

  • @loops4361
    @loops4361 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Monaco qualifying drama:
    Hamilton vs Rosberg
    Sainz vs Leclerc
    Verstappen vs Perez
    😂

  • @lifeofmike556
    @lifeofmike556 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Samier you're breaking the CAR

  • @a_randomdude3343
    @a_randomdude3343 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    And agaaaain, and agaaaaainy and agaaaain, and agaaaaain, and ag*gets shot down by twitter*

  • @xBrabus76
    @xBrabus76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I cannot belibit!!

  • @OLDIRTYPRIEST
    @OLDIRTYPRIEST 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought this was a video game

  • @adolfoustarez
    @adolfoustarez ปีที่แล้ว

    He knows the game

  • @mattiiia
    @mattiiia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ha l’accento italiano ormai ahahaha

  • @JudgeDredd_
    @JudgeDredd_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy shit I want to drive that fast

  • @krisbrown2318
    @krisbrown2318 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shows the impact of the flag system there. Reacted to the flags before any radio message.

  • @yourtechweekeveryweek6321
    @yourtechweekeveryweek6321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Is he named after the tank or is the tank named after him.

  • @matthijsvanthof9315
    @matthijsvanthof9315 ปีที่แล้ว

    His engineer tells him about the yellows after Carlos went by🤦

  • @alessandratataranni7055
    @alessandratataranni7055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Leclerc and sainz=❤️

  • @1LuvMLPFiM
    @1LuvMLPFiM 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Samir turned from Rally to F1.

  • @PMGW
    @PMGW 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    AY KANNOT BELIWE ITT!

  • @Thatoneguythatlikescars
    @Thatoneguythatlikescars ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That “wait Double yellow” was a bit late I think he could have crashed really badly

  • @kimdahyunnie
    @kimdahyunnie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    classic ferrari engineer

  • @christellelemaire9749
    @christellelemaire9749 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mon amour chéri je te aime 💙❤️

  • @FOXHOUNDKAGE
    @FOXHOUNDKAGE 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello darkness my old friend

  • @VerdePenguin
    @VerdePenguin ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to be so attentive on the racetrack with all the crushes that can occur in the flags those guys are waving those things figuratively and he was doing about a hundred and fifty

  • @georgedennert4411
    @georgedennert4411 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Youd think they’d be faster on the radio than just in person flags

    • @kishc4509
      @kishc4509 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ferrari need time for "we are checking"

  • @kamilahmet2706
    @kamilahmet2706 ปีที่แล้ว

    i am stupid, i am stupid.

  • @RBMapleLeaf
    @RBMapleLeaf ปีที่แล้ว

    That Marshal for some reason got way too close while waving that flag maybe because, they saw Sainz coming at tremendous speed. That could've been catastrophic.

  • @umeedbandu1
    @umeedbandu1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "SAMMY SAMMY WHAT ARE YOU DOING MAN !? "

  • @harishmr5426
    @harishmr5426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rosberg vibes

  • @kuronushinabi3270
    @kuronushinabi3270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have not stop scrolling for the past 2 months if you see this HELP!

  • @edwardlack2578
    @edwardlack2578 ปีที่แล้ว

    Genuinely seems like the flag mans gonna smack the car 😂

  • @victorpadilla4811
    @victorpadilla4811 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Flagged just slapped him with it he did not care

  • @brockfrazer666
    @brockfrazer666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He could not see into he go to the corner like wtf

  • @edoardocortes8176
    @edoardocortes8176 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are checking

  • @kannavsharma2
    @kannavsharma2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you saw the crashed at first

  • @tiemen9095
    @tiemen9095 ปีที่แล้ว

    There should be a rule that if you cause a red flag in quali, you get a 3 place penalty in the session (so if you made it to Q3 but crash, you'll always be at worst 10th). That would be more fair and would avoid advantage from crashing (which can exist now).