Wow I feel so bad for that girl, dying just because the note saying you should live was sent too late. I’d probably come back as an angry ghost too if I was in her shoes.
Given that she could be a combination of spirits, it would make more sense for her to be a berserker than an avenger. Whatever grudge the original spirit could have had was mixed with a lot of other different ones, making all the spirits that make her being angry as hell, but with no specific grudge in mind to "avenge", the video already sets an example of this because Sen no Rikyu and Komahime have completely different reasons for dying but they died because of the same person
Some of Koma’s My Room dialogue reveals that, while she’s angry over her death, she’s not angry enough to the point of hating everything. She states that Rikyu took it up upon himself to be angry in the stead of the weak like herself. So it’s pretty much a case where neither one actually has much of a personal grudge; Koma is just too docile on her own, while Rikyu is more impersonal, I suppose.
Rikyu says she’s not an avenger because she herself doesn’t have a personal vendetta against those who harmed her, rather, she acts as some sort of hero for the souls seeking vengeance
It felt a bit odd when it was just Sen no Rikyu since his story felt a bit didn't feel like it had enough of a push to specifically qualify as a berserker imo (especially given his background as a monk and a tea master) but this linkage between him and Komahime as the spirits who hold a grudge against Toyotomi It'd be pretty interesting to see more of these kinds of servants similar to the Assassin Jack the Ripper going forward
I've read somewhere on the internet that Komahime death was too heartless and it cause outrage by citizen of kyoto and feudal lord alike. Its felt weird seeing how fgo potray Hideyoshi after dropping this story.
Her execution was one of the reasons why majority of Tohoku region (region the Mogami family which Koma was born in) daimyos sided with Tokugawa 5 years later at Sekigaha
Ishida was trying to revive her son back to life to restore the Tokugawa reign, basically spitting on her son’s dignity beyond the grave, hence why she get justifiably angry beyond belief
I’ve seen this video pop up every now and then for 2 years but I didn’t want to watch it until NA finished New Yamataikoku. I will agree with you goat sensei that Rikyu is one of the more well thought out characters in the game. That and because her art and character are just up my alley is why I will be giving her grails.
Hmm. I wonder if FGO plans to put Hideyoshi in the game in a future GUDAGUDA event. I think it’d be interesting since we have characters that would probably side with him and some that would *loathe* him
We have several servants in Chaldea who absolutely loathe each other, but they'd never actually engage in death battles as long as they're still under the same master. I imagine it to be the same with Hideyoshi and these guys.
Its safe to say that Komahime's death was actually One of the most Dumbest mistake of Hideyoshi. it only make Yoshiaki Mogami pissed off so much and make him to Backstabbing Toyotomi Clan. but how can we blame about his 'treason'?
There is also a purge of hidetsugu (nephew of hideyoshi and komahime husband) and his family which fasten the end of the toyotomi clan since there is no extra branch after hideyori death at osaka
This definitely clears some things up, but what one of my friends and I have been needing to know is what the hell is up with the hands and the ball in her first and second ascension? Who do they belong to/ who are they? No one can give me an answer, at least not yet.
Thanks for the profile of historical figures due to the mobile game. But what about the new event again in gudaguda yamatai kingdom 2022. Can they tell that himiko and iyo accurately the source of the death and shaman power during the ancient japan.
Dunno, I find it so poor. If they really seeked to make a ghost it should have too many identities to even discern. Not merely Rikyuu and a whatever pretty girl. It feels too convenient and bland. Like Assassin Jack the Ripper taking the form of a girl when she's a collective ghost. Why female? Cause waifu and such. Dunno, if it had no gender and third sprite were rather an inhuman mondter I'd like it more.
Imo I still dislike that they went around in circles to justify releasing a female servant instead of just letting the actual male Sen no Rikyu be the host of the wronged spirits. It left a bad taste in my mouth when they did it with Van Gogh and Bakin and it is kinda disheartening that they are still doing it
Yeah, it's especially weird considering Male servants sell as well as the female servants too and even sell BETTER than female servants (even Achilles outsold summer Kama in the treasure hunting event, Oberon making as much money as BOTH Morgan banners on banner 1 mind you, Muramasa banner made a shitton of money). I would've loved to see Male Bakin or Old man Hokusai (I know he's the octopus but it's disappointing that we didn't get crazy painter grandpa)
I still can tolerate van gogh but bakin was out of the line for the dev. Rikyu genderbent reasons was well thought so i was a bit conflicted about them
Is anyone else getting tired of these kinds of Servants? Not that I was ever a big fan of the tea dude, but can they stop doing this kind of shit? It’s like they’re trying to justify genderbending in the most insane ways possible instead of just doing it because they can. It kinda ruins the character for me
Wow I feel so bad for that girl, dying just because the note saying you should live was sent too late. I’d probably come back as an angry ghost too if I was in her shoes.
She didn't even choose to mary the dude.
Feels bad for the other concubine too. I get the logic but still
Yeah the whole thing was fked up I was quite shocked when i first looked it up.
So that explains why she's so heavy, she's like Spiritomb
Still she sounds more like an Avenger than Berseker...
Given that she could be a combination of spirits, it would make more sense for her to be a berserker than an avenger.
Whatever grudge the original spirit could have had was mixed with a lot of other different ones, making all the spirits that make her being angry as hell, but with no specific grudge in mind to "avenge", the video already sets an example of this because Sen no Rikyu and Komahime have completely different reasons for dying but they died because of the same person
Some of Koma’s My Room dialogue reveals that, while she’s angry over her death, she’s not angry enough to the point of hating everything. She states that Rikyu took it up upon himself to be angry in the stead of the weak like herself.
So it’s pretty much a case where neither one actually has much of a personal grudge; Koma is just too docile on her own, while Rikyu is more impersonal, I suppose.
Rikyu says she’s not an avenger because she herself doesn’t have a personal vendetta against those who harmed her, rather, she acts as some sort of hero for the souls seeking vengeance
Great servant concept. Reminds me a little of Fate's take on Jack the Ripper in regards to her being an amalgamation of vengeful spirits.
It felt a bit odd when it was just Sen no Rikyu since his story felt a bit didn't feel like it had enough of a push to specifically qualify as a berserker imo (especially given his background as a monk and a tea master) but this linkage between him and Komahime as the spirits who hold a grudge against Toyotomi
It'd be pretty interesting to see more of these kinds of servants similar to the Assassin Jack the Ripper going forward
so basically she's like jack then, collective consciousness of several entities
I've read somewhere on the internet that Komahime death was too heartless and it cause outrage by citizen of kyoto and feudal lord alike. Its felt weird seeing how fgo potray Hideyoshi after dropping this story.
The way how Nobbu described Saru in gudaguda 2 fits him.
You should read koha ace RE to see hideyoshi’s portrayal in fate
Her execution was one of the reasons why majority of Tohoku region (region the Mogami family which Koma was born in) daimyos sided with Tokugawa 5 years later at Sekigaha
So basically.....we have the first official Onryo servant? Nice!
that also explains a lot why she looks so creepy
Dawg Hideyoshi ORDERED her execution to begin with, he didnt step for her he was barely pursuded to spare her that it was too late
That's honestly pretty genius thought process, love it.
Whoa absolutely outstanding. I didn’t know what or who exactly she was based of from. Thank you it was very educational.
Her power is like Ichibe Hyousube's smother everything into black and I love it.
Oh my. The implications of this are HUGE!
Great video!
and why was chacha mad?
i saw a post that chacha were mad and almost turns into avenger in this event
Ishida was trying to revive her son back to life to restore the Tokugawa reign, basically spitting on her son’s dignity beyond the grave, hence why she get justifiably angry beyond belief
I’ve seen this video pop up every now and then for 2 years but I didn’t want to watch it until NA finished New Yamataikoku.
I will agree with you goat sensei that Rikyu is one of the more well thought out characters in the game. That and because her art and character are just up my alley is why I will be giving her grails.
Her story really make me cant hold my fingers to do the roll😭😭✌
Hmm. I wonder if FGO plans to put Hideyoshi in the game in a future GUDAGUDA event. I think it’d be interesting since we have characters that would probably side with him and some that would *loathe* him
We have several servants in Chaldea who absolutely loathe each other, but they'd never actually engage in death battles as long as they're still under the same master. I imagine it to be the same with Hideyoshi and these guys.
Ngl I hope they make a new class for him and deviate from the guda guda design
@@yoga5631 why would he be in a new class when he’s said to be of saber class
fate never fails to amaze in various ways
Its safe to say that Komahime's death was actually One of the most Dumbest mistake of Hideyoshi. it only make Yoshiaki Mogami pissed off so much and make him to Backstabbing Toyotomi Clan. but how can we blame about his 'treason'?
There is also a purge of hidetsugu (nephew of hideyoshi and komahime husband) and his family which fasten the end of the toyotomi clan since there is no extra branch after hideyori death at osaka
This definitely clears some things up, but what one of my friends and I have been needing to know is what the hell is up with the hands and the ball in her first and second ascension? Who do they belong to/ who are they? No one can give me an answer, at least not yet.
the ball I think is a gift from cha cha.
the hands are the ghosts
Thanks for the profile of historical figures due to the mobile game. But what about the new event again in gudaguda yamatai kingdom 2022. Can they tell that himiko and iyo accurately the source of the death and shaman power during the ancient japan.
How many is it now that an old man soul is inside a girl in Fate?
Like 1 cause the others arnt possed
Does Nikitich count?
Honestly, waifu sells.
Why not? Lmao
I am still so annoyed that Saru hasn’t come to FGO yet
His profile was made by keikenchi without Nasu's supervision 😆 and there he's broken asf
Dunno, I find it so poor. If they really seeked to make a ghost it should have too many identities to even discern. Not merely Rikyuu and a whatever pretty girl. It feels too convenient and bland. Like Assassin Jack the Ripper taking the form of a girl when she's a collective ghost. Why female? Cause waifu and such.
Dunno, if it had no gender and third sprite were rather an inhuman mondter I'd like it more.
Imo I still dislike that they went around in circles to justify releasing a female servant instead of just letting the actual male Sen no Rikyu be the host of the wronged spirits.
It left a bad taste in my mouth when they did it with Van Gogh and Bakin and it is kinda disheartening that they are still doing it
Yeah, it's especially weird considering Male servants sell as well as the female servants too and even sell BETTER than female servants (even Achilles outsold summer Kama in the treasure hunting event, Oberon making as much money as BOTH Morgan banners on banner 1 mind you, Muramasa banner made a shitton of money). I would've loved to see Male Bakin or Old man Hokusai (I know he's the octopus but it's disappointing that we didn't get crazy painter grandpa)
Type Moon started gender bend since 2004.
And 18 years later some people are still complaining lol
They’ve been doing this shit way too much lately and it’s getting really annoying, yeah.
"It's getting annoying"
Lasagna: Oh my bad, let me smoke this money up.
I still can tolerate van gogh but bakin was out of the line for the dev.
Rikyu genderbent reasons was well thought so i was a bit conflicted about them
Is anyone else getting tired of these kinds of Servants? Not that I was ever a big fan of the tea dude, but can they stop doing this kind of shit? It’s like they’re trying to justify genderbending in the most insane ways possible instead of just doing it because they can. It kinda ruins the character for me
Cope
and Seethe