The T-5 is definitely little known outside of Mustang circles but there’s another, even lesser known variant: the Mexican Mustang. I’ve been a big Mustang fan for decades, read magazines and books, seen the movies and documentaries, and owned 5. I’ve only heard the Mexican Mustang mentioned twice. The article said they had fiberglass roofs and aircraft landing lights replaced lights. It almost sounds like a joke and it may be.
@@donnisraines I don't think the Mustang would have been big in Mexico since over there it was Volkswagen country. Not sure on their import laws but I also assume they could just go to Texas and buy a Ford there...
IM just curious if the T5s offered a v8 in Europe. Generally European cars were given an inline 6, their cats didn't offer v8s. V8s Were considered exotic by the Euros.
@@w41duvernay I lived in Germany at the time. You could get the V-8. In fact those were the most common. And also: Those Mustangs sold via the AAFES New Car Sales program were in fact also badged as a 'Mustang' up to early '79. Any US Car sold via them were in fact full US Specs unless requested otherwise by the buyer. (Translation: They wanted a Kilo Cluster rather than MP/H.)
Years ago in Hull Quebec Canada, i was at a car show at a Ford dealership with my 70 Mustang and 84 SVO. A local fellow, military from Germany I beleive showed up with a T5
Way back in 1975 I bought a "Special 65 Mustang" It was a original 65 GT350 and cost $5000 back then, that would be about $29,000 today --- still a good deal. I still have it to this day. Thanks to ED for another fine Christmas watch.
Chinese patent court is pretty much this: “Do you have a Chinese patent?” American brand: “Well no, but we have all these other patents in every other country going back 50 years.” Chinese patent court: “We ONLY recognize Chinese patents. Pay this fine for infringing these other guys Chinese patents.”
Most of the time, yes, but in 2019, Land Rover somehow won a case against a Chinese copycat firm (Jiangling Motors) that had produced a blatant copy of their Evoque. The courts even forced the Chinese firm to cease production and pay damages. I can only guess that Tata's bribes were bigger than Jianling's. There's no other explanation, given the blatant corruption in the so-called Chinese legal system and their otherwise complete disregard for objective reality.
So what? A German/turkish Familie gets a lot of Money from Volkswagen, cause their Familie Name was Sharan and they registered the Name, like the Modell from VW. So VW has to pay to use the Name.
The Ford T5 story has another amusing twist. One of the early 5 speed manual transmissions available in the United States if the BorgWarner T-5, a light to medium duty transmission that was used on a variety of cars in the 1980s and 1990s. One of the best known versions of the T-5 was the Ford Mustang. Light duty T-5s were used in the 2.3 litre four cylinder Mustangs, and the medium duty version was used in the Mustang 5.0, which was powered by Ford's ubiquitous 302 cubic inch V8. This transmission was also used in 3.8 liter V6s. Thus, the T-5 was used in a car that was, at one time, called the T5.
My first car was a 1966 Mustang Convertible. Loved that car and drove it for years eventually selling to my father. When he passed we sold it to a younger couple who so wanted one and were going to restore it. It was nice to see it enter a new chapter in its life. They brought it by after restoration to show it to my mother. I felt good it’s journey was continuing.
I was a US army brat whose family lived in West Germany from 1971 to 1975. I knew people who had Mustangs in Germany and I don’t recall any of them being rebadged as “T-5”. I remember seeing the first Mustang II in the parking lot of the Pioneer Kasern PX. I can see the rebadge for sell to the European market but not for service members.
Same here. Four postings growing up from 1966-83, then back again as a G.I. later. 'We' could buy a Mustang via AAFES, but as I recall the Germans not only had the T-5,but not every Ford or Germany dealer sold them,and those who did only bought & sold them on Special Order. (But then,most of the AAFES New Car sales program was also based upon the special order cars.)
Also, Ford ran through the same "problem" in the 1970s with the Maverick name. That's because an aeronautical engineer called H. S. Gladwin crafted a large custom roadster called Maverick Speedster in 1952, using fibreglass composite (just like Corvette). He founded "Maverick Motors" in order to try to earn customers. Of course, with some criticism the car was basically bashed as a folly. Gladwin just kept building some fiberglass bodies until 1968. At the time, the name "Maverick" probably expired its license and Ford approached him to buy it. Reported by him, he didn't cared about how much he received, only bitter to see the name Maverick on a tin can produced by Ford Motor Company hehehe.
I have heard and read about the T5 - and speaking about unusual Mustangs, there was an AWD prototype built in 1966. Ford ultimately passed on the idea because they didn't think there was a market for it. The car is located in the Tampa Bay Auto Museum.
There was an article on a Mustang T5 couple years ago in a large german classic car magazine. According to that article the entire car was intended to be nothing more than agap filler untill the Capri was ready, although the two models catered to vastly different audiences considering the difference in size and price. The metric speedometer came from cadaian market vehicles and early T5 didn't even had the T5 badging but siply standart mustang equipment with the Mustang name groud out with a grinder. Customers could order mustang badges as spare parts from the dealership and install them if they wanted.
When I was in high school there was a retired military officer in the area that I lived. When he was stationed in Germany in the 60s he purchased aT5 and brought it back to America when his tour was finished in Europe. I passed on it when he put it up for sale,, but looking back I am kicking myself in the arse.
I've seen at a car show a 66 Mustang fastback that was a Hertz rental car in Germany. Straight 6 engine, 3 speed with overdrive transmission. Metric speedometer and all the data plates under the hood were in German. It seems like a great busines decision on Ford's part. Lots of American soldiers stationed there back then. What do they do when they get paid? Rent a Mustang and then buy one when they got rotated back to the states.
Hi Ed, there was an Australian built Ford Mustang as well for1966 & 1967 fully Sydney built at Ford's Homebush plant and right-hand drive with imperial miles measurement speedo, not the American miles measurement as they are well different. Ford Australia wanted to use the Mustangs on local racetracks, and to do that they needed to homologate a model so that in that trim, guise & specification it could be bought from a dealer by the public. That meant that it needed a heavy duty wiring loom as Australian headlight requirements were a lot brighter than the almost candle like headlight beams on US home market cars, it also meant that there needed to be rear amber turn indicator lights too, there needed to be lap sash front seatbelts as well. The ONLY engine available was the 289ci V8 high output version to comply to the racing rules, only about 1,000 were made over the 2 year period, they had high level interiors as well and the only body style was the formal roof coupe, NO convertibles, NO fastbacks. Now in late 2024 a rusted out hulk of one of these would bring almost 6 figures, a restored one is $150,000 Aussie dollars, and an original excellent unrestored car is anyone's guess depending on original options still in the car, and one with a factory vinyl roof, Ford 8-track player and the floor console with the cast alloy connecting portion to link it to the dash which contains a small compartment to hold 8-track tapes with a sliding polished alloy roller door like a car garage. This little unit for these Aussie RHD cars is worth stupid money. I've seen some of these unique RHD factory Mustangs sold at auction and the prices paid would shock some Europeans, as they were built as a full GT road car from Ford's Sydney, Homebush plant with heavy duty front & rear re-engineered chassis structures to support heavy duty suspension, factory front disc brakes etc. The prices paid would make a Porsche 356 or a SL Pagoda Mercedes seem cheap by comparison.
To all English speakers: Capri is NOT pronounced with accent on the "i", it should be on the "a". Capri is one beautiful island in the gulf of Napoli and the Ford Capri dates back to an era (60/70s) when many European Fords were named after European - usually glamourous - places: Cortina (ski resort in the Alps), Capri (as said), Granada (historic town in Spain), Taunus (German mountains).
I think you should say it’s not pronounced in Italy as “kuh-PREE”. English speakers have their own ways as noted. What I’ve always wondered is how we came up with “Turin” out of Torino, “Florence” out of “Firenze”, and the list goes on…
I think that the pronunciation “Kuh-pree” for the car has become autonomous from the name of the island because it is mispronounced so much. I think at this point, it doesn’t really matter. Especially considering that the car has been out of production for a while now.
At this point I think the emphasis makes for a distinction. Emphasis on the A, you mean the island. Emphasis on the I, you mean the car. And if you say the car like the island you sound like Del Boy.
@@JJJGGG538 Not in the US. The island, the car, and the popular kids’ juice drink are pronounced “kuh-pree”. Americans only learn the difference if they go to the island on vacation. But we’ll still call it “kuh-pree” when we get home.
1:35 No, that's not a "bicycle". My friend bought a new 1980 Mustang 2 (which was basically a Pinto with a trunk) and learned that the engine & drive train were made in Germany. It had a 2.3 L with a 3-speed automatic and was extremely sluggish starting out.
Ed, thank you for these gift videos! Each one seems to have things I've never known about the cars or trucks, but in this case, cars. I mean, I knew about "T5," but I didn't know that China also played host to litigation regarding "Mustang." And Ford CEO Jim Farley made a big stink about Americans like me, who still can't stomach "Mach E" (for Ewww!) as a Mustang SUV? Looks like they didn't learn the first three times, so I'll prepare myself to see Ford sweat a forth court date! 🐰
@@kailahmann1823 You didn't have to change the speedometer if you brought any car from the US to Germany. You only had to mark important speed limits (50, 80 and 100 km/h) on the speedometer. No safety issue.
In the south of the Netherlands you still have a special dealership that sells US build cars to US military staff ( American cars Schinnen) Brussum Afcent. So you could see alot of US manufacturer European models with USA licenseplates driving around. The European buils Rally cars like the Ford Fiesta, Escort, Sierra and Focus ST/Cosworth series were bought also by US Service personal and imigrated with them after deployment to the US.
I seem to recall they were also building certain US Fords & Chrysler Product miodels in Holland as CKD's,just as they built GM cars in Belgium & Switzerland as CKD's,and I think Chrysler was building them there as well?? Plus up in Scandinavia they built Plymouth Valiants just for the Police Depts up there as well?
@@DrOlds7298 This century The Chrysler Voyager/ Dodge Caravan/Ram were build in Austria for the European market (Daimler-Chrysler era). Most of them were diesel commercial vans. Chrysler was late to the party (1970's) in Europe and did buy the Rootes group in the UK to get a foothold in Europe. (That ended in total disaster and the entire European Chrysler division was sold for $1,- to PSA!) And yes Ford and GM had some small CKD assembly plants for US models for the European market. The Chevrolet Impala was build in Belgium. After bigger specific for the European models of GM and Ford models came of European production lines. Only the hearses and Ambulance market by converting GM and Ford Stationwagons remained.
I'd like to believe that my comments on another EAR video had an influence on this being made 😅. Remember an article about a little old lady in the 1990s, who was still using her bought-of-showroom-floor T5 as a daily driver. Would have been in a Motor Klassik or such
Her Name is Käthe Lowe from Heidelberg. Her Husband Fred A. Lowe, an US Army Sergeant, bought her a new 1965 Fastback as a birthday present in November of 1965. She still owns the car today. I believe she is the only known first owner of a Mustang /T-5 in Germany.
I had a 1969 Mustang with a 390 and it was an "export" coded Mustang. I think they were sold to military personnel in Vietnam and in Germany (via Switzerland?). Then the military owners would bring them back to the US. I did buy it near the Pentagon, so maybe it does have a military connection.
Kreidler is also to blame for Volvo Amazon not being allowed to keep its name abroad. Mustang was allowed its name here in Sweden though, despite us having a moped brand named Mustang. (even a moped was called Mustang Cobra) Then again, were Ford Mustangs really sold new at dealerships here? Something tells me they weren't actually sold here until 2005, but I may be desinformed. Oh well... Thanks for uploading! Geetings from Sweden
As an 'Army Brat' in then West Germany, I had a '1973 Mustang'....but mine was a Bicycle? Pretty Cool one,though.....Candy Apple Red,'Sissy Bar' & the tall handlebars,'Banana' seat,it even was a Three Speed...with a frame mounted 'shifter' like it's Ford namesake!!!
@DrOlds7298 Interesting!! I made a google search, and there were both swedish and german bicycle manufacturers named Mustang. The swedish one were probably affiliated with the moped factory as many companies built both bicycles and mopeds back then. Didn't find out if the german bicycle had any relations to Kreidler though, but I found pictures of what was probably the type of bike you had. A boys dream!!
That's not weird, for Ford. When a company named itself "Ford Tractor Company" and tried to get Henry to buy them out, he just called his tractor division "Fordson".
2:47 - not really, pride and not conforming to "nonamerican guidelines" are invaluable assets for all true US companies. Buying the name would imply that somebody had it first, nothing that US company can accept.
It's not that unusual. Nikon in the 60s had to re-brand their cameras sold in Germany to "Nikkor" due to Zeiss-Ikon having the rights to the "Nikon" name (even though they apparently never used it). . .
We had one of those in 1975 (Mustang II) in Germany. No mention of "Mustang" on the car, its official designation was "Ford T5 Tudor Hardtop Ghia" I believe (it was the V8) ... BTW the worst car we ever had in our family and it took us one year to sell it in '77. Nobody would buy it - not even with 75% depreciation.
Attention!!! Unfortunately, the Federal Exhaust Gas Emissions Ban Ordinance BABVVO and the Federal Transport Tourism Emission Restriction Ordinance TEBBVO will soon ban exhaust emissions and transport tourism emissions nationwide!!
Yah- a '64½ model. Essentially a '65, but some small differences. Made from I think April- September of '64. My uncle has one- a standard coupe, 6cyl/3 speed, no options except radio. Bought it new.
I think they are titled as 65's. Main differences: generator vs alternator, 260 V8 vs 289, and a pressure operated brake light switch vs one on the brake pedal.
I understand if dealer new Mustangs had to be sold badged as a T5 in Germany, but American Gees shipping their American built cars over there had to be reversed as T5 as well???
Hi, why did VW Volkswagen didnt say anything? Didnt they thought after? They labled their cars with Ts, at least a Transporter/Bully generation was called T5!
Yes but the T5 from Volkswagen was introduced in 2003, so almost 40 years after the mustang was brought to Germany whilst VW was still selling the T1 with the T2 coming in 1967 so I doubt they could claim T5 based on future developments.
@captainevenslower4400 hi, aber Peugeot hat doch auf die " Null " bestanden und Porsche verklagt/aufgefordert diese nicht mehr zu verwenden? Da hat VW wohl nicht nachgedacht das sie auch mal bei T5 ankommen! So hat es BMW auch mit Volvo gemacht, die haben wohl auch geklagt und Volvo musste die Modellbezeichnungen ändern? So gibt es Jahre nach dem Volvo 240 jetzt einen BMW 240 bzw. Volvo 140 und jetzt BMW 140 !?
'We' didn't. We could buy a New Mustang via AAFES for European Delivery & it was badged as a 'Mustang'. And truth be known,most Mustangs you saw on the road back then had 'our' US Forces in Germany 'Green Tags',and most of those that were on a German registration were actually bought used....from a G.I.!!
Dark. For those not familiar, Aktion T4 was the Nazi's mass murder of physically and mentally impaired people. It was the precursor to the Holocaust in many ways; there was the dehumanization of the victims in the media (they even produced movies to advocate for the "merciful" killing and let schoolchildren calculate how many "good German families" could be fed for the amount of money "useless eaters" supposedly cost) - and the use of poison gas, including horrific gas trucks that were also used at the beginning of the Holocaust, a slow and painful death by suffocation. In Eastern Europe, patients were also simply shot, including in their beds. Like the Holocaust, it was chaotic, messy and poorly planned, even leading to German citizens who were unlucky to be in the wrong hospital at the wrong time being accidentally murdered - and all of it was clumsily covered up, resulting to a rare case of public outrage and even protests in response, forcing the regime to publicly end the program (but they continued in secret). 200,000 to 300,000 people were murdered, of all ages and wages of life, from infants to elderly dementia patients, from people who were being treated for depression to military veterans suffering from PTSD. Even some of the Nazis involved in the program realized that the victims weren't hurting anyone nor costing very much, not that this stopped them from executing the grim orders.
The missed opportunity to name it Ford 109. I mean the Mustang name came from the British naming the NA75 fighters as the Mustang Mk.1, which then when the USA accepted the NA75 unto USAAF service became the P-51 Mustang, which had a nieche role as a single engine high performance bomber escort, became a legend, and the car was named after it. We gotta sell our car named after a legendary plane in Germany, where we need to rename it...... Why the hell are you not naming it after a Legendary German Fighter? The Messerschmitt Bf-109. Like, come on. Even Ford Messer would sound good.
My mother bought a brand new 66 Mustang for 2250 us dollars out the door. I got the car in 1973 and drove it until I sold it in 2012 with 450000 miles. And yes, I got way more then my mom paid for it.
I'm from Germany and have never heard of the T5! Thank you
Must have been rebadged into Mustangs
There where also Mustangs assambled in Amsterdam at the Dutch Ford factory. Those had a rear fog light and other european things.
The Mustang and the Capri had the exact same designer, Philip T Clark. He passed on way too soon.
The T-5 is definitely little known outside of Mustang circles but there’s another, even lesser known variant: the Mexican Mustang. I’ve been a big Mustang fan for decades, read magazines and books, seen the movies and documentaries, and owned 5. I’ve only heard the Mexican Mustang mentioned twice. The article said they had fiberglass roofs and aircraft landing lights replaced lights. It almost sounds like a joke and it may be.
The Mexican mustang had a big problem with the tequila cup holder..
You could hit a bump and spill the whole thing... 🍹
@@donnisraines I don't think the Mustang would have been big in Mexico since over there it was Volkswagen country. Not sure on their import laws but I also assume they could just go to Texas and buy a Ford there...
IM just curious if the T5s offered a v8 in Europe. Generally European cars were given an inline 6, their cats didn't offer v8s. V8s Were considered exotic by the Euros.
@@w41duvernay I lived in Germany at the time. You could get the V-8. In fact those were the most common. And also: Those Mustangs sold via the AAFES New Car Sales program were in fact also badged as a 'Mustang' up to early '79. Any US Car sold via them were in fact full US Specs unless requested otherwise by the buyer. (Translation: They wanted a Kilo Cluster rather than MP/H.)
@@w41duvernay There also was a 327 Chevy powered Opel Sedan built from 1964-77 called a Diplomat. More of an S-Klasse competitor.
Years ago in Hull Quebec Canada, i was at a car show at a Ford dealership with my 70 Mustang and 84 SVO. A local fellow, military from Germany I beleive showed up with a T5
Way back in 1975 I bought a "Special 65 Mustang" It was a original 65 GT350 and cost $5000 back then, that would be about $29,000 today --- still a good deal. I still have it to this day. Thanks to ED for another fine Christmas watch.
Chinese patent court is pretty much this: “Do you have a Chinese patent?”
American brand: “Well no, but we have all these other patents in every other country going back 50 years.”
Chinese patent court: “We ONLY recognize Chinese patents. Pay this fine for infringing these other guys Chinese patents.”
Most of the time, yes, but in 2019, Land Rover somehow won a case against a Chinese copycat firm (Jiangling Motors) that had produced a blatant copy of their Evoque. The courts even forced the Chinese firm to cease production and pay damages. I can only guess that Tata's bribes were bigger than Jianling's. There's no other explanation, given the blatant corruption in the so-called Chinese legal system and their otherwise complete disregard for objective reality.
But when are the chinese companies going to pay for infringing western patents?
@@fenn_frenprobably never as that means being honest.
Are y'all talking about patents or trademarks? There's also trade dress, to make the waters muddier.
So what? A German/turkish Familie gets a lot of Money from Volkswagen, cause their Familie Name was Sharan and they registered the Name, like the Modell from VW. So VW has to pay to use the Name.
Seen one of these on a job site. The owner explained why it said t5 pretty cool
The Ford T5 story has another amusing twist. One of the early 5 speed manual transmissions available in the United States if the BorgWarner T-5, a light to medium duty transmission that was used on a variety of cars in the 1980s and 1990s. One of the best known versions of the T-5 was the Ford Mustang. Light duty T-5s were used in the 2.3 litre four cylinder Mustangs, and the medium duty version was used in the Mustang 5.0, which was powered by Ford's ubiquitous 302 cubic inch V8. This transmission was also used in 3.8 liter V6s. Thus, the T-5 was used in a car that was, at one time, called the T5.
For the Capri Perana 5L V8 Windsor, Basil Green chose a gear box from the Australian Ford Falcon.
Very interesting, I never knew this about the Ford Mustang, in Germany🇩🇪, cool, now I know
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I imagine that "T5 Sally" didn't have the same impact as a song title.
My first car was a 1966 Mustang Convertible. Loved that car and drove it for years eventually selling to my father. When he passed we sold it to a younger couple who so wanted one and were going to restore it. It was nice to see it enter a new chapter in its life. They brought it by after restoration to show it to my mother. I felt good it’s journey was continuing.
You're the best, I wish I had a first gen Mustang, unfortunately it's hard to get one in Europe especially older models
@Radu_D_1 Not so hard to get, but getting really expensive.
I was a US army brat whose family lived in West Germany from 1971 to 1975. I knew people who had Mustangs in Germany and I don’t recall any of them being rebadged as “T-5”. I remember seeing the first Mustang II in the parking lot of the Pioneer Kasern PX. I can see the rebadge for sell to the European market but not for service members.
Same here. Four postings growing up from 1966-83, then back again as a G.I. later. 'We' could buy a Mustang via AAFES, but as I recall the Germans not only had the T-5,but not every Ford or Germany dealer sold them,and those who did only bought & sold them on Special Order. (But then,most of the AAFES New Car sales program was also based upon the special order cars.)
Heard a few stories like this
Also, Ford ran through the same "problem" in the 1970s with the Maverick name. That's because an aeronautical engineer called H. S. Gladwin crafted a large custom roadster called Maverick Speedster in 1952, using fibreglass composite (just like Corvette). He founded "Maverick Motors" in order to try to earn customers. Of course, with some criticism the car was basically bashed as a folly. Gladwin just kept building some fiberglass bodies until 1968. At the time, the name "Maverick" probably expired its license and Ford approached him to buy it. Reported by him, he didn't cared about how much he received, only bitter to see the name Maverick on a tin can produced by Ford Motor Company hehehe.
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Brilliantly executed and informative!
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I have heard and read about the T5 - and speaking about unusual Mustangs, there was an AWD prototype built in 1966. Ford ultimately passed on the idea because they didn't think there was a market for it. The car is located in the Tampa Bay Auto Museum.
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There was an article on a Mustang T5 couple years ago in a large german classic car magazine. According to that article the entire car was intended to be nothing more than agap filler untill the Capri was ready, although the two models catered to vastly different audiences considering the difference in size and price. The metric speedometer came from cadaian market vehicles and early T5 didn't even had the T5 badging but siply standart mustang equipment with the Mustang name groud out with a grinder. Customers could order mustang badges as spare parts from the dealership and install them if they wanted.
When I was in high school there was a retired military officer in the area that I lived. When he was stationed in Germany in the 60s he purchased aT5 and brought it back to America when his tour was finished in Europe. I passed on it when he put it up for sale,, but looking back I am kicking myself in the arse.
I've seen at a car show a 66 Mustang fastback that was a Hertz rental car in Germany. Straight 6 engine, 3 speed with overdrive transmission. Metric speedometer and all the data plates under the hood were in German. It seems like a great busines decision on Ford's part. Lots of American soldiers stationed there back then. What do they do when they get paid? Rent a Mustang and then buy one when they got rotated back to the states.
Love these videos! Thanks Ed
Nice catch,never heard about the "T5".
Thank Ed. This is a great series. I liked the small details information aspect. Please continue.
This has been a enjoyable series of EAR videos. 👍
I so far have seen two of them...one even was a Fastback with a 4 speed manual transmission....very cool and interesting versions
Hi Ed, there was an Australian built Ford Mustang as well for1966 & 1967 fully Sydney built at Ford's Homebush plant and right-hand drive with imperial miles measurement speedo, not the American miles measurement as they are well different. Ford Australia wanted to use the Mustangs on local racetracks, and to do that they needed to homologate a model so that in that trim, guise & specification it could be bought from a dealer by the public. That meant that it needed a heavy duty wiring loom as Australian headlight requirements were a lot brighter than the almost candle like headlight beams on US home market cars, it also meant that there needed to be rear amber turn indicator lights too, there needed to be lap sash front seatbelts as well. The ONLY engine available was the 289ci V8 high output version to comply to the racing rules, only about 1,000 were made over the 2 year period, they had high level interiors as well and the only body style was the formal roof coupe, NO convertibles, NO fastbacks. Now in late 2024 a rusted out hulk of one of these would bring almost 6 figures, a restored one is $150,000 Aussie dollars, and an original excellent unrestored car is anyone's guess depending on original options still in the car, and one with a factory vinyl roof, Ford 8-track player and the floor console with the cast alloy connecting portion to link it to the dash which contains a small compartment to hold 8-track tapes with a sliding polished alloy roller door like a car garage. This little unit for these Aussie RHD cars is worth stupid money. I've seen some of these unique RHD factory Mustangs sold at auction and the prices paid would shock some Europeans, as they were built as a full GT road car from Ford's Sydney, Homebush plant with heavy duty front & rear re-engineered chassis structures to support heavy duty suspension, factory front disc brakes etc. The prices paid would make a Porsche 356 or a SL Pagoda Mercedes seem cheap by comparison.
I think Yema up until the late 2010s also built all their vehicles (even that forester rip-off) on the old Austin Allegro chassis
To all English speakers: Capri is NOT pronounced with accent on the "i", it should be on the "a". Capri is one beautiful island in the gulf of Napoli and the Ford Capri dates back to an era (60/70s) when many European Fords were named after European - usually glamourous - places: Cortina (ski resort in the Alps), Capri (as said), Granada (historic town in Spain), Taunus (German mountains).
I think you should say it’s not pronounced in Italy as “kuh-PREE”. English speakers have their own ways as noted. What I’ve always wondered is how we came up with “Turin” out of Torino, “Florence” out of “Firenze”, and the list goes on…
I think that the pronunciation “Kuh-pree” for the car has become autonomous from the name of the island because it is mispronounced so much. I think at this point, it doesn’t really matter. Especially considering that the car has been out of production for a while now.
At this point I think the emphasis makes for a distinction. Emphasis on the A, you mean the island. Emphasis on the I, you mean the car. And if you say the car like the island you sound like Del Boy.
@@JJJGGG538 Not in the US. The island, the car, and the popular kids’ juice drink are pronounced “kuh-pree”. Americans only learn the difference if they go to the island on vacation. But we’ll still call it “kuh-pree” when we get home.
It's our language we shouldn't have to be told how to speak it by you.
1:35 No, that's not a "bicycle". My friend bought a new 1980 Mustang 2 (which was basically a Pinto with a trunk) and learned that the engine & drive train were made in Germany. It had a 2.3 L with a 3-speed automatic and was extremely sluggish starting out.
Love your videos!
Love the series
Love the theme of you Holiday episodes, Ed. Will you and Adam Wade be doing any additional videos in 2025?
Ed, thank you for these gift videos! Each one seems to have things I've never known about the cars or trucks, but in this case, cars.
I mean, I knew about "T5," but I didn't know that China also played host to litigation regarding "Mustang." And Ford CEO Jim Farley made a big stink about Americans like me, who still can't stomach "Mach E" (for Ewww!) as a Mustang SUV? Looks like they didn't learn the first three times, so I'll prepare myself to see Ford sweat a forth court date! 🐰
Thanks ED. Happy Xmas..
4:22 bro that's a second gen Subaru Forester
Im surprised that imported personal mustangs have to change their badge too.
Wild for "wild horse" in Chinese is pronounced more like "yeah".
even more silly, if they had to change the badge but not the speedometer - copyright more important than safety I guess?
@@kailahmann1823 You didn't have to change the speedometer if you brought any car from the US to Germany. You only had to mark important speed limits (50, 80 and 100 km/h) on the speedometer. No safety issue.
Very interesting; thanks for the background’s 👍
There once was a dutch company that made a one off stationwagon, just to promote the sunroof they sold.
In the south of the Netherlands you still have a special dealership that sells US build cars to US military staff ( American cars Schinnen) Brussum Afcent.
So you could see alot of US manufacturer European models with USA licenseplates driving around.
The European buils Rally cars like the Ford Fiesta, Escort, Sierra and Focus ST/Cosworth series were bought also by US Service personal and imigrated with them after deployment to the US.
I seem to recall they were also building certain US Fords & Chrysler Product miodels in Holland as CKD's,just as they built GM cars in Belgium & Switzerland as CKD's,and I think Chrysler was building them there as well?? Plus up in Scandinavia they built Plymouth Valiants just for the Police Depts up there as well?
@@DrOlds7298 This century The Chrysler Voyager/ Dodge Caravan/Ram were build in Austria for the European market (Daimler-Chrysler era). Most of them were diesel commercial vans.
Chrysler was late to the party (1970's) in Europe and did buy the Rootes group in the UK to get a foothold in Europe. (That ended in total disaster and the entire European Chrysler division was sold for $1,- to PSA!)
And yes Ford and GM had some small CKD assembly plants for US models for the European market.
The Chevrolet Impala was build in Belgium.
After bigger specific for the European models of GM and Ford models came of European production lines.
Only the hearses and Ambulance market by converting GM and Ford Stationwagons remained.
Ed. Where do you find these gems!
Ed has a 🎩 😉
I'm really digging this Advent Calendar idea of yours, Ed. Looking forward to seeing the rest. Happy Holidays!
Loving this series! Yule will 2!
I'm surprised they did not call it "Wildpferd"
I'd like to believe that my comments on another EAR video had an influence on this being made 😅.
Remember an article about a little old lady in the 1990s, who was still using her bought-of-showroom-floor T5 as a daily driver. Would have been in a Motor Klassik or such
Wasn't it an AMC Rambler Classic or a Dodge?
@horaciokanashiro-hv2zn no, was a Wimbledon white T5 with a red interior, if I recall correctly.
Her Name is Käthe Lowe from Heidelberg. Her Husband Fred A. Lowe, an US Army Sergeant, bought her a new 1965 Fastback as a birthday present in November of 1965. She still owns the car today. I believe she is the only known first owner of a Mustang /T-5 in Germany.
@Fedora1936 that's the one! And I don't know why I remember that article over 20 years later
I had a 1969 Mustang with a 390 and it was an "export" coded Mustang. I think they were sold to military personnel in Vietnam and in Germany (via Switzerland?). Then the military owners would bring them back to the US. I did buy it near the Pentagon, so maybe it does have a military connection.
Great content.
Thanks a lot.
Own 1 Ford Mustang. 1977 Mustang II. Good little car.
Enjoy!
Not my cup of tea, but old is gold nonetheless.
I really like the Mustang II more than the real deal. But i will have to drive it in Denmark Europe.
Ford Lipizzaner, missed chance there.
T5 is the manual transmission in the fox body.. wonder if that's a coincidence?
Capri and Granada where designed to take V8 power, the Granada also had a 6,6L option!
Kreidler is also to blame for Volvo Amazon not being allowed to keep its name abroad. Mustang was allowed its name here in Sweden though, despite us having a moped brand named Mustang. (even a moped was called Mustang Cobra) Then again, were Ford Mustangs really sold new at dealerships here? Something tells me they weren't actually sold here until 2005, but I may be desinformed. Oh well...
Thanks for uploading! Geetings from Sweden
Mustang? Mustang Cobra! Man, I just learn how strong spirited moped riders feel in your town 👍
@horaciokanashiro-hv2zn If the 15 year olds in the 70's or 80's wanted any swedish moped, that was the one! 😁
As an 'Army Brat' in then West Germany, I had a '1973 Mustang'....but mine was a Bicycle? Pretty Cool one,though.....Candy Apple Red,'Sissy Bar' & the tall handlebars,'Banana' seat,it even was a Three Speed...with a frame mounted 'shifter' like it's Ford namesake!!!
@DrOlds7298 Interesting!! I made a google search, and there were both swedish and german bicycle manufacturers named Mustang. The swedish one were probably affiliated with the moped factory as many companies built both bicycles and mopeds back then. Didn't find out if the german bicycle had any relations to Kreidler though, but I found pictures of what was probably the type of bike you had. A boys dream!!
That's not weird, for Ford. When a company named itself "Ford Tractor Company" and tried to get Henry to buy them out, he just called his tractor division "Fordson".
0:30 What a handsome beast of a car i see there. Must be a very attractive guy that owns it 😎😏😌
my neighbour has one in our garage first owner, never knew it wasnt a mustang and yes...its munich ...and yes hes a billionaire
2:47 - not really, pride and not conforming to "nonamerican guidelines" are invaluable assets for all true US companies. Buying the name would imply that somebody had it first, nothing that US company can accept.
Das ist sehr interessant.
I rode a Kreidler Mustang in the 80ies
The Ford Capri was also a
German Mustang
That's actually what the G.I.'s nicknamed them!!!
Based upon the British Ford Cortina.
It's not that unusual. Nikon in the 60s had to re-brand their cameras sold in Germany to "Nikkor" due to Zeiss-Ikon having the rights to the "Nikon" name (even though they apparently never used it). . .
Ford Mustang! Glenn
We had one of those in 1975 (Mustang II) in Germany. No mention of "Mustang" on the car, its official designation was "Ford T5 Tudor Hardtop Ghia" I believe (it was the V8) ... BTW the worst car we ever had in our family and it took us one year to sell it in '77. Nobody would buy it - not even with 75% depreciation.
Ok someone at Ford clearly wasn't thinking. $10,000 and the problem would have been solved.
whats the song in the beginning?
T5 Sally never got to be a hit 😂
yes i knew
I just learned something new!!!!
China copy write is hysterical
Attention!!! Unfortunately, the Federal Exhaust Gas Emissions Ban Ordinance BABVVO and the Federal Transport Tourism Emission Restriction Ordinance TEBBVO will soon ban exhaust emissions and transport tourism emissions nationwide!!
Again in the Sierra XR8, Ford South Africa put the Mustang 5L V8 Windsor!
That bicycle looks like a lot of motorcycles.
You could hear it rusting in the show room.
Interesting
Looks.to me like a big 70s Celica Fastback!
1964½ model??
Yah- a '64½ model. Essentially a '65, but some small differences. Made from I think April- September of '64. My uncle has one- a standard coupe, 6cyl/3 speed, no options except radio. Bought it new.
I think they are titled as 65's. Main differences: generator vs alternator, 260 V8 vs 289, and a pressure operated brake light switch vs one on the brake pedal.
Lol! Good stuff!
How hypocritical, China suing over patent infringement. 🙄
I understand if dealer new Mustangs had to be sold badged as a T5 in Germany, but American Gees shipping their American built cars over there had to be reversed as T5 as well???
No. We could buy a Mustang via AAFES for European Delivery. Full US Spec.
I remember reading about the T-5 / Mustang in Hot Rod back in 68 or 69 .
or the fenders are made without the holes and then the various holes are added in various markets
Ford has a history of, we don't want to pay so let's do it the hard way.
Hi, why did VW Volkswagen didnt say anything? Didnt they thought after? They labled their cars with Ts, at least a Transporter/Bully generation was called T5!
Yes but the T5 from Volkswagen was introduced in 2003, so almost 40 years after the mustang was brought to Germany whilst VW was still selling the T1 with the T2 coming in 1967 so I doubt they could claim T5 based on future developments.
@captainevenslower4400 hi, aber Peugeot hat doch auf die " Null " bestanden und Porsche verklagt/aufgefordert diese nicht mehr zu verwenden? Da hat VW wohl nicht nachgedacht das sie auch mal bei T5 ankommen! So hat es BMW auch mit Volvo gemacht, die haben wohl auch geklagt und Volvo musste die Modellbezeichnungen ändern? So gibt es Jahre nach dem Volvo 240 jetzt einen BMW 240 bzw. Volvo 140 und jetzt BMW 140 !?
"Kreidler, a bicycle manufacturer": Shows moped.
They built & sold both. I had one of their 'Mustang' bicycles growing up there. (Army Brat)
Cool info! 🌲🌲🌲🌲
Wow, there really isn’t much difference besides the boxiness between the two… 3:40
Is that Krupp truck company the same one that makes fancy coffee makers?
You're thinking of Krups. They make coffee machines.
No, it was the Truck devision of the steel producer Krupp (today "TyssenKrupp")
I appreciate the responses! Now I feel a little silly... lol 😂
If you mean tanks and cannons and other heavy steel machinery, you are right 😊
Subj: Spanish Languge.
Yema isn't any 🐎, yema: egg yoke 🍳
4:18 the exact design of the front end of a Fiat Mille 2013
It's illegal for any car in germany to have a normal name.
It has to be alpha numeric or something strange.
why did the soldiers have to change the logos?
'We' didn't. We could buy a New Mustang via AAFES for European Delivery & it was badged as a 'Mustang'. And truth be known,most Mustangs you saw on the road back then had 'our' US Forces in Germany 'Green Tags',and most of those that were on a German registration were actually bought used....from a G.I.!!
@@DrOlds7298Thanks for the info! I thought something seemed a little inaccurate there
Seriously last thing I'd expect is a copyright claim from a Chinese car company
Remember: When in Germany, don't mix up T5 and T4. :skull:
Dark. For those not familiar, Aktion T4 was the Nazi's mass murder of physically and mentally impaired people. It was the precursor to the Holocaust in many ways; there was the dehumanization of the victims in the media (they even produced movies to advocate for the "merciful" killing and let schoolchildren calculate how many "good German families" could be fed for the amount of money "useless eaters" supposedly cost) - and the use of poison gas, including horrific gas trucks that were also used at the beginning of the Holocaust, a slow and painful death by suffocation. In Eastern Europe, patients were also simply shot, including in their beds. Like the Holocaust, it was chaotic, messy and poorly planned, even leading to German citizens who were unlucky to be in the wrong hospital at the wrong time being accidentally murdered - and all of it was clumsily covered up, resulting to a rare case of public outrage and even protests in response, forcing the regime to publicly end the program (but they continued in secret).
200,000 to 300,000 people were murdered, of all ages and wages of life, from infants to elderly dementia patients, from people who were being treated for depression to military veterans suffering from PTSD. Even some of the Nazis involved in the program realized that the victims weren't hurting anyone nor costing very much, not that this stopped them from executing the grim orders.
The missed opportunity to name it Ford 109.
I mean the Mustang name came from the British naming the NA75 fighters as the Mustang Mk.1, which then when the USA accepted the NA75 unto USAAF service became the P-51 Mustang, which had a nieche role as a single engine high performance bomber escort, became a legend, and the car was named after it.
We gotta sell our car named after a legendary plane in Germany, where we need to rename it......
Why the hell are you not naming it after a Legendary German Fighter? The Messerschmitt Bf-109.
Like, come on. Even Ford Messer would sound good.
It should be forbidden to protect any names that are just words from the dictionary
My mother bought a brand new 66 Mustang for 2250 us dollars out the door. I got the car in 1973 and drove it until I sold it in 2012 with 450000 miles. And yes, I got way more then my mom paid for it.