@@MrConnorsm You've had distinct, detailed thoughts akin to Joe's "oh these fucking guys get away with everything, these damn black kids, I'm gonna show him" dramatization as you're *actively* taking your lumps in a fight? You believe Zimmerman was thinking about the perps getting away with break-ins in his neighborhood *as* his head was being slammed onto the sidewalk, as Joe said? And I'm wearing the dunce cap?
FYI, If you EVER in a street fight, your life is in danger. If you get knocked out and hit your head on the curb you die. Considering the "curb stomping" culture its not a stretch to feel your life is in danger!
Danny or whomever pointing out that the last guy Trayvon pummeled didn't die so there is no way he thought his life was in danger might be the worst argument I have ever heard. Seriously think about that argument.
Joe was woke before woke existed he was just awful always has been. Wait and by the way way to help someone who’s being beaten Joe stands there I’m going to stand here until you get here oh thanks. My hero
The falling out happened after Ant was fired. I guess DeRosa was pissy because Ant didn’t tell the pests to back off of him and publicly say that Joe is cool.
Didn't ant get a gun for his twelfth birthday? Something like that? What is it about this kid wanting a gun that makes it wrong all the sudden, and how does nobody bring that up?
@@thomasbrown-ge4zj I’m not sure I understand the question, but I want to! This isn’t a “you’re dumb” reply I promise haha Do you mean why is everyone mad that Zimmerman had a gun?
@@thomasbrown-ge4zj reply No. 2 Haha I just listened to this again and now I see what you’re talking about! Any says “and he had a gun (not with him but at home)”. Agreed my friend
@@nimo517 yea that's what I meant. He says trayvon was texting a friend about buying a 380 too but again ant had dozens of guns by the time he was trayvons age... was ant a thug too lol
Yeah that's whats destroying America, a fat fucking pig who shot a teenager after following him because he was black in a white neighborhood, and then years later sold the gun he used to kill the kid at an auction and laughed about it. How did those capitol riots go for you cop lovers? Beating a police officer to death with a US flag pole. Seems you only like police when they're shooting unarmed black people
I love listening to these old debates. People never fail to make endless speculations and even assertions that are contradicted by evidence. The barbarian Savage behavior of Martin is what escalated this potential non situation into a life and death event. People who defend Martin have to make excuses for why you can jump on a stranger and start smashing his head into concrete. I wonder how these people would react if Martin attacked them.
Trouble is, Zimmerman is a proven liar, changing his story as time went on. The most amusing example is his lie that "...I needed to see the street sign because I didn't know the name of the street." In a neighborhood with three streets. A neighborhood with three streets that he's lived in for years. And is a membership watch guy for. And he didn't know the name of the street. 🙄 A real examination of the evidence reveals Martin was the one defending himself. Zimmerman revealed or pulled his gun and only then did Martin pounce, as proved by Zimmerman's obvious lie about reaching for his phone, a lie he told before knowing what the eye witness knew. He wouldn't have told police SHIT about reaching for his phone unless he was reaching for his gun before he was on the ground, and legally covering his ass.
@@ryans756a real examination? Hahaha it was examined by the FBI and f****** local cops it's over and done with cry about it somewhere elsem trayvon was a thug piece of s*** and nothing of value was lost goodbye
What is the different in " stand your ground " & self defense. They same the same. If someone is smashing ur head on the concrete & u have a gun I'd think ur instinct is to shoot. Also though if Zimmerman didnt follow him nobody would be dead. I guess it matters which of those 2 matters more. This kid died b/c of Zimmerman so if they d.a didnt go for murder instead of manslaughter he would have been convicted. I think in these cases the jury gets stuck b/c of the wrong charges.
i think "self defense" is defending yourself as you're being physically attacked. "Stand your ground" gives cover to someone who feels physically threatened by verbal harrasment or fear of physical assault by a group of people. There was a case recently in South Carolina i believe where a black man was in a bar/club and was being threatened by a group of white guys. Black guy left and while walking to his car in the parking lot, the group of white guys followed him out and were taunting and threatening him. He pulled a gun out of his car and shot at them, injuring and killing some on the group. He was charged, but acquitted under the "Stand your Ground" law by the jury
Joe tries so hard to assign motivation. Always negative to zimmerman, and excuses for treyvon. Its the soft biggotry of low expectAtion. I hope simmerman follows derosa home someday
Jordan you are totally correct here. Its so sickening. I remember thia happening and they wanted to burn zimmerman alive. Thank God he was found NG! Justice was served. But then again I'm sure the little shits family got som kinda money for wrongful death or something ridiculous
@@sirloin7633 They would have made a fortune out of it. This was the beginning of what later became BLM and they're well known for being shameless grifters. There's documented evidence of these idiots misusing donated funds, I'm torn on that though because at least when the money is being embezzled it's not being used to instigate violence and looting etc. Haha.
Last comment bc this is like the everlasting abortion debate, even after laws are passed over decades and decades, it can still be legal/illegal... It may never be settled in public opinion, despite the solid legal defense of self defense…. 1. Zimmerman acted in an immoral and unethical way. 2. Laws that keep innocent people from being easily sentenced and not bearing the responsibility to prove innocence exist. I believe those are both true, and it’s a crappy case that shows itself through racism in the media.
Georgie just was not and is not competent enough to own a gun. When you're following someone and they wind up on top of you, you aren't the right guy for the job. The way Georgie handled the whole situation with his lady friend after all of this only seems to further prove this.
You can tell DeRosa’s never been in a fight when you hear him talk about what he thinks was going through Zimmerman’s head when he was getting beat up
He was spot on. I've been in a few fights
@@IAmAlmightyGod I’m with you. As cool as it is to diss Derosa, he is making solid points and I’m impressed.
PGee wearing the dunce cap lol
@@MrConnorsm You've had distinct, detailed thoughts akin to Joe's "oh these fucking guys get away with everything, these damn black kids, I'm gonna show him" dramatization as you're *actively* taking your lumps in a fight? You believe Zimmerman was thinking about the perps getting away with break-ins in his neighborhood *as* his head was being slammed onto the sidewalk, as Joe said? And I'm wearing the dunce cap?
FYI, If you EVER in a street fight, your life is in danger. If you get knocked out and hit your head on the curb you die. Considering the "curb stomping" culture its not a stretch to feel your life is in danger!
Danny or whomever pointing out that the last guy Trayvon pummeled didn't die so there is no way he thought his life was in danger might be the worst argument I have ever heard. Seriously think about that argument.
That's Sam he's just as useles tho
Martin punched Zimmerman first self defense case over
Joe was woke before woke existed he was just awful always has been. Wait and by the way way to help someone who’s being beaten Joe stands there I’m going to stand here until you get here oh thanks. My hero
This was an ugly, but necessary example of Stand your ground and why its necessary.
George is 100% innocent. Those people need to stop breaking the law. Tell them to behaved!!!!!
And you need to learn how to spell.
Is this the true moment joe and ant stop being freinds? Derosao is a snowflake
The falling out happened after Ant was fired. I guess DeRosa was pissy because Ant didn’t tell the pests to back off of him and publicly say that Joe is cool.
You are 😊
Lol no way after this
Each Trayvon video surprised me with Ant’s take. All 50 of the clips I’ve heard haha
Didn't ant get a gun for his twelfth birthday? Something like that? What is it about this kid wanting a gun that makes it wrong all the sudden, and how does nobody bring that up?
@@thomasbrown-ge4zj I’m not sure I understand the question, but I want to! This isn’t a “you’re dumb” reply I promise haha
Do you mean why is everyone mad that Zimmerman had a gun?
@@thomasbrown-ge4zj reply No. 2
Haha I just listened to this again and now I see what you’re talking about! Any says “and he had a gun (not with him but at home)”. Agreed my friend
@@nimo517 yea that's what I meant. He says trayvon was texting a friend about buying a 380 too but again ant had dozens of guns by the time he was trayvons age... was ant a thug too lol
@@thomasbrown-ge4zj yeah I totally get what you meant! Cheers and I agree
Thank God for Anthony. Jimmy, Sam, and Joe’s nonsense is a prime example of what is destroying our country.
If Trayvon was white they would have trashed him
Yeah that's whats destroying America, a fat fucking pig who shot a teenager after following him because he was black in a white neighborhood, and then years later sold the gun he used to kill the kid at an auction and laughed about it. How did those capitol riots go for you cop lovers? Beating a police officer to death with a US flag pole. Seems you only like police when they're shooting unarmed black people
I love listening to these old debates. People never fail to make endless speculations and even assertions that are contradicted by evidence. The barbarian Savage behavior of Martin is what escalated this potential non situation into a life and death event. People who defend Martin have to make excuses for why you can jump on a stranger and start smashing his head into concrete. I wonder how these people would react if Martin attacked them.
Lol cope wow
Trouble is, Zimmerman is a proven liar, changing his story as time went on. The most amusing example is his lie that "...I needed to see the street sign because I didn't know the name of the street."
In a neighborhood with three streets. A neighborhood with three streets that he's lived in for years. And is a membership watch guy for. And he didn't know the name of the street. 🙄
A real examination of the evidence reveals Martin was the one defending himself. Zimmerman revealed or pulled his gun and only then did Martin pounce, as proved by Zimmerman's obvious lie about reaching for his phone, a lie he told before knowing what the eye witness knew. He wouldn't have told police SHIT about reaching for his phone unless he was reaching for his gun before he was on the ground, and legally covering his ass.
What would you do if someone was stalking and hunting, YOU?!
@@omarihoward8168 continue to move forward, trayvon started the physical confirmation.
@@ryans756a real examination? Hahaha it was examined by the FBI and f****** local cops it's over and done with cry about it somewhere elsem trayvon was a thug piece of s*** and nothing of value was lost goodbye
Jimmy "the worm" Norton and Joey Flabbo Derosa are so much in the wrong during this, that it's stomach turning.
Joe DeRosa should have never been allowed on the show. He sucks and is the worst kind of hack.
Jimmy, Sam, Joe: Wrong. Ant: CORRECT.
Matt Thomas: idiot
Matt Thomas: idiot
This is a great, healthy conversation.
Opie preps the bull
Also wait can we stop calling Zimmerman yte
Lol remember when they called him a yte Hispanic
I literally cannot listen to this because Jimmy and Joe get me so fucking annoyed and mad...
Lol cumia rules
What is the different in " stand your ground " & self defense. They same the same. If someone is smashing ur head on the concrete & u have a gun I'd think ur instinct is to shoot. Also though if Zimmerman didnt follow him nobody would be dead. I guess it matters which of those 2 matters more. This kid died b/c of Zimmerman so if they d.a didnt go for murder instead of manslaughter he would have been convicted. I think in these cases the jury gets stuck b/c of the wrong charges.
i think "self defense" is defending yourself as you're being physically attacked. "Stand your ground" gives cover to someone who feels physically threatened by verbal harrasment or fear of physical assault by a group of people. There was a case recently in South Carolina i believe where a black man was in a bar/club and was being threatened by a group of white guys. Black guy left and while walking to his car in the parking lot, the group of white guys followed him out and were taunting and threatening him. He pulled a gun out of his car and shot at them, injuring and killing some on the group. He was charged, but acquitted under the "Stand your Ground" law by the jury
“ Liberal jimmy “
Joe tries so hard to assign motivation. Always negative to zimmerman, and excuses for treyvon. Its the soft biggotry of low expectAtion. I hope simmerman follows derosa home someday
You dont think any of those thing while beimg straddled, and beaten... its what joe wants to be the case.
. Cuz slavery
Jordan you are totally correct here. Its so sickening. I remember thia happening and they wanted to burn zimmerman alive. Thank God he was found NG! Justice was served. But then again I'm sure the little shits family got som kinda money for wrongful death or something ridiculous
Ant did the same exact thing though
@@sirloin7633 They would have made a fortune out of it. This was the beginning of what later became BLM and they're well known for being shameless grifters. There's documented evidence of these idiots misusing donated funds, I'm torn on that though because at least when the money is being embezzled it's not being used to instigate violence and looting etc. Haha.
Last comment bc this is like the everlasting abortion debate, even after laws are passed over decades and decades, it can still be legal/illegal... It may never be settled in public opinion, despite the solid legal defense of self defense….
1. Zimmerman acted in an immoral and unethical way. 2. Laws that keep innocent people from being easily sentenced and not bearing the responsibility to prove innocence exist.
I believe those are both true, and it’s a crappy case that shows itself through racism in the media.
How's fantasyland treating you? 😂
Zimmerman was reactionary, especially to the common factor of the “people” that mainly committed crimes in his city.
Has DeRosa said a funny thing ever? Why was he a staple on O&A?
Went from a conversation going on for too long into a total simp episode. I thought nopie episodes were the best?
Georgie just was not and is not competent enough to own a gun. When you're following someone and they wind up on top of you, you aren't the right guy for the job. The way Georgie handled the whole situation with his lady friend after all of this only seems to further prove this.