Solving An Interesting Log Equation | Math Olympiads

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  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd ปีที่แล้ว +8

    What I like about your videos is how you consistently do not choose the obvious pathway that most of us would use. In this case rather than following the blaring siren to change base, you chose more elegant pathways to get the same place. Just because they may take a little longer at times does not take away the theme that there are often many options. Along the way we recall principles that aren't necessarily used every day.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      💖 Thank you for the feedback! My mindset seems to be "How can I make the solution more complicated?" It's funny that I haven't thought of the "change of base" method for this problem. Thanks for the heads up!!!

    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SyberMath Thank you for sharing. Wouldn't you agree your teo methods here are the same method thoigh just swapping bases?

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leif1075 no problem! That’s right. They are kind of the same. Using change of base, which, interestingly I haven’t thought of btw, would be an entirely different approach.

  • @justabunga1
    @justabunga1 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    There is another method that you can also use, which is the change of base formula. This equation can be rewritten as log(x)/log(2)+log(x)/log(3)=1. Multiply everything by the LCD, which is log(2)log(3), and factor out log(x). This means that (log(3)+log(2))log(x)=log(2)log(3). Divide both sides by log(3)+log(2), or log(6). log(x)=log(2)log(3)/log(6), and x=10^(log(2)log(3)/log(6)). Simplify this even better and using properties of logarithms, which is x=2^(log_6(3)). The answer can also be x=3^(log_6(2)) if we interchange the the base of the exponent and the log of an argument.

    • @rajatdogra96
      @rajatdogra96 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed same

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! 🤩

    • @MichaelRothwell1
      @MichaelRothwell1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, that was my method (though I used ln rather than log). I was very surprised that SyberMath didn't present this method also, as the equation is crying out for the change of base rule!
      Also, this method leads to a pleasing symmetrical result, easily simplified to the forms found in the video.

    • @iz8376
      @iz8376 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah I did this method in my olympiad too and saves a lot of time

    • @ytlongbeach
      @ytlongbeach 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yup. i did it the same way !!

  • @erikdahlen9140
    @erikdahlen9140 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I did log base change in my head when i saw the problem, factored, and solved for x. easier than whatever you did here

  • @MrGeorge1896
    @MrGeorge1896 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I suggest using ln(b) / ln(a) instead of log_a(b).
    ln(x) (1 / ln(2) +1 / ln(3)) = 1
    ln(x) = ln(2) * ln(3) / ln(6)
    so x = e ^ (ln(2) * ln(3) / ln(6)) = 1.52959...

  • @MarCamus
    @MarCamus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Changed both bases to ln
    and after some algebra I got the solution in terms of ln and e

  • @broytingaravsol
    @broytingaravsol ปีที่แล้ว +6

    x=2^(ln3/ln6)

  • @rajatdogra96
    @rajatdogra96 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Log x ( log 2 + log 3) = log 2 * log 3

  • @Education-35
    @Education-35 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My answer is same but another approach
    First i use reciprocal property
    To make same base
    And then take LCM
    And apply log(a) + log(b) = log(ab)
    After that
    Use base changing property
    And I got answer 2
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  • @KookyPiranha
    @KookyPiranha 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aint no way this is a math olympiad problem. I saw a similar one in my hw

  • @scottleung9587
    @scottleung9587 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the same answer the first method had.

  • @MushookieMan
    @MushookieMan ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just used the change of base formula on one of the logs, wasn't a bad method

  • @giuseppemalaguti435
    @giuseppemalaguti435 ปีที่แล้ว

    x=3^log6(2)

  • @somnathkundu7354
    @somnathkundu7354 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the change of base and add the terms.

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good thinking!

  • @GurpreetSingh-PI
    @GurpreetSingh-PI 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ELEGANT - spy x family

  • @christianlopez1148
    @christianlopez1148 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    log2x=lnx/ln2, log3x=lnx/ln3....easyly you can find lnx.

  • @GreenMeansGOF
    @GreenMeansGOF ปีที่แล้ว

    change of base is how I would have done it

  • @josemanuelbarrenadevalenci653
    @josemanuelbarrenadevalenci653 ปีที่แล้ว

    Confusedly explained

  • @moeberry8226
    @moeberry8226 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The fastest way is to use change of bases. So you obtain log(x)/2+log(x)/3. Now just factor out a log(x) and divide by that constant on both sides and then anti log both sides and your done.

  • @tetsuyaikeda4319
    @tetsuyaikeda4319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could know 'Zee is not see, nor c, nor be ' that must be some kind of joking

  • @popitripodi573
    @popitripodi573 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used the change of base method!!your approach was very good alternative!!!!❤❤❤❤

    • @SyberMath
      @SyberMath  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great job! 🥰

    • @aproplayer8581
      @aproplayer8581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I too used change of base method.

  • @rakenzarnsworld2
    @rakenzarnsworld2 ปีที่แล้ว

    x = 1.5

  • @angelamusiemangela
    @angelamusiemangela ปีที่แล้ว

    x=2-1

  • @phongvong8639
    @phongvong8639 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is over I mean they are. Then something has to be prioritised. Please. Thank you.

  • @jfcrow1
    @jfcrow1 ปีที่แล้ว

    x equal cube root of 3

  • @gatosimple2354
    @gatosimple2354 ปีที่แล้ว

    Profe menos palabras demás,sea más directo

  • @MichaelRothwell1
    @MichaelRothwell1 ปีที่แล้ว

    In case anyone is wondering, the reason for the rule
    a^(log꜀b)=b^(log꜀a)
    is that if you log each side to base c and use the power rule for logs, both sides give log꜀a log꜀b.
    Putting it another way,
    c^(log꜀a log꜀b)=(c^log꜀a)^log꜀b=a^log꜀b
    and
    c^(log꜀b log꜀a)=(c^log꜀b)^log꜀a=b^log꜀a
    so a^(log꜀b)=b^(log꜀a).