Hi Ashley! I wonder what your thoughts are concerning banning drivers more, ie just 6 pts! Do you think drivers would respect the rules more? Would the economy fail if 50% of car drivers lost the privilege?
They did… It took them a while to catch the driver, but I am told they were brought in to a police station and now have to take a fit to drive assessment
@@matthewdray83 This is why the attitude towards cyclists will never change. Taking a 'fit to drive' assessment is not a proper punishment. It's a slap on the wrist, one that will lead the driver to resent cyclists more and act even more dangerously in future. These people are full of hate, and must be punished properly with heavy fines and having their right to operate a machine capable of killing those they hate taken off of them completely and permanently.
@@Pattoe Very assumptive position. Drivers have to pay for such assessments out of pocket, which is often twice or even thrice as hefty then a fine. The price alone makes many positively aware of how serious traffic participation is and try to do better. And for those that won't learn from it, what makes you think such drivers give a damn about rights and licenses?
It was horrifying. I have been a direct eyewitness to a child being hit by a car - fortunately it was a low speed and there were only minor injuries but it's imprinted on my brain forever. Unfortunately, without a better look at the number plate from other sources, CPS might not do anything to this scumbag.
Lets hope its not police scotland, I've just experienced them not being interested in clips of the super dangerous kind unless they can come around your house for a demonstration and for an official charge against the other driver, they obviously don't care
@@leetori1 No idea who I got, just went through police scotland website, they phoned me and were not interested in any of it unless I had them around my house to live view the clip and for me to press formal charges despite the fact I just observed the issue.. just crazy to me
The horn is interesting. Whilst I agree it's not really for 'telling off', I've had 1 or 2 situations where I've driven sillier than I should and a well earned horn from another car has really drilled in the lesson and slight embarrassment on my end.
Its a dificult one as reprimanding someone with a horn, although often deserved, results in negative reaction. So many times i see someone pull out on or cut someone up, the horn gets used them the bad driver does a brake check or similar road ragey response. So although im all for calling people out and challenging people on bad behaviour in public, it has its risks behind the wheel.
For me, the situations in some of these clips warrant a lifetime ban. People drive like this because they know they can get away with it but it eventually only ends one way. If people knew that they categorically will never ever drive again if caught doing such a dangerous manoeuvre they might think twice before they do it. And I'm not talking about people that do a bad emerge or jump a red light, these are all things we can do accidentally and obviously don't warrant a lifetime ban. But you don't accidentally overtake whilst passing a junction in a 30mph zone at 5:02, you don't accidentally overtake a huge queue of traffic through traffic lights like the idiot at 7:45 and you most certainly don't accidentally overtake a car at a zebra crossing and nearly wipe out a pedestrian at 8:10. All these (especially the last one) deserve lifetime bans, there is simply no place on our roads for people that drive like this and the sooner they are removed the better.
There is an assumption that those driving like they don’t care already have a license that can be banned for a period of time (including full life ban). I’m not saying those in these clips fall into that category but there are quite a few out there (Edited to fix typos)
Do you think they care? These are (not especially these but....) the drivers that will continue to drive even without or with a revoked driving license.
Lifetime ban wouldn't work. Some people would then continue drive for life without a licence or any insurance. What is needed is more traffic police enforcement, but they have been replaced with safety camera vans that only send out letters and fines rather than educating the driver at the roadside. Unfortunately it is all about the money rather than safety.
100% agree. These people could only have done what they did through a complete lack of care for the safety of everyone around them, which proves that they are not at all fit to operate a machine capable of killing people
I’m really appalled by the overtakes of cyclists in these clips. It’s like some people absolutely refuse to be slowed down by a cyclist by even a few seconds and will even overtake on a blind corner with solid whites. They don’t seem to have any care for the cyclist, oncoming traffic, or even themselves. Obviously the cyclist is most vulnerable
A lack of braincells. It's like they see the cyclist and are only capable of a pavlovian response of MUST OVERTAKE NOW. They lack the foresight to contemplate the situation five seconds into the future.
I think a lot of people do not consider it an overtake at all. They don't carry out any of the routine they would go through to do what they consider an overtake. They think of the cyclist in the road as a small obstacle they just go straight past whenever they get to it. I bet at least 99% of the people that drive round a cyclist on a tight, blind bend wouldn't consider an overtake of a motor vehicle there, and would call whoever tried it a lunatic. We need an education campaign pointing out that passing a cyclist on the road is an "overtake" and needs to be measured like any other.
@James Howard excellent points. It is for that very reason to use primary position as it does force the overtake. A few years ago with a group which had 0 road craft, would everytime here a car from behind would go straight into the gutter. Avengly I had to tell them to stop as it was put us in danger plus it was also putting the driver in danger as well. I personally sat at the back bit kept out in primary. So if anyone did come past they had being forced to go wide. Once clear I would use secondary. I want the cars to get past as quickly as possible but it has to be safe. Generally I find if you warn drivers it's not safe to overtake. Then pull over to let them past, they generally appreciate it and will give a signal of thanks. When you've ridden in groups the number 1 rule is to look after the collective of the group.
Incidents like the one at 1:38 seem to happen all the time in my school vehicle, even when I'm the one driving it. It's so easy to get stuck in a loop of holding back when the way isn't clear (as you should), only for other drivers to pass you and enter the space, leaving you with the choice to keep being obstructed or becoming the obstruction yourself in order to end the cycle.
@@ColinSmith2001 That is one reason I avoid horn use with someone overtaking a cyclist badly. Most of them realise how idiotic their move was when they have to slow down themselves to complete or abort the overtake
Using the Horn whilst the event is happening is pointless and dangerous. Most car horns require taking your hand off the wheel and onto the centre of the steering wheel. Not the sort of reaction to take when avoiding another car.
I got caught out at a roundabout several years ago. I was the second car on the approach, there was a gap in the traffic on the roundabout and the car in front moved off. I switched my attention to the right, saw there was still a gap and moved forward, only to find that, for some inexplicable reason, the driver in front had decided to stop again, halfway across the line, and I nudged their back bumper before I could stop. I learned a valuable lesson that day, and now I take nothing for granted.
1:24 I do it like this too, but it's more for my own anger management than telling the other driver "you done goofed", since I already know that they either don't care, or are oblivious enough that they wouldn't even know why they hear the horn. Granted, I only do this once my patience is over, as in several drivers putting me in danger by cutting in etc. one after another, here I'd just gesticulate 🤷
@9:04, reprimand or not, there was plenty of time for the cammer to stop when the amber light came on, especially as it was at a slow speed. He only just cleared the stop line when the light turned red. nb. there seems to be one particular car brand that appears disproportionately in the most egregious examples of bad driving.
@@mickcy9954 Yep, and to quote the Highway Code :- "AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident" Some will claim it's not a 'must' rule, but the must bit applies to the following of traffic signals, and the bit on red doesn't say must either. and nobody will claim that's not compulsory. "RED means ‘Stop’. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway" Of course, as there's judgement involved over whether it is safe to stop, then I think that chances of being fined for failing to stop for an amber is virtually zero. However, that doesn't make it good practice to push your luck, or that of others.
The cammer *should* have stopped before the line, but on the other hand, I don't think it was great driving from the driving school vehicle either. I can only assume they were preoccupied watching the lights rather than focusing on the oncoming traffic, because it was pretty clear what the cammer was going to do there. And the horn was also completely pointless.
Good mention about repeat offenders. I've been in cars where someone has cursed another driver for an error a few times and called them terrible drivers and so on and I try to say to them it's one error, even if it is a bad error. If we were to see them make more mistakes while they were in our view we could then start to believe they are a bad driver rather than a good one who is only human.
I think this is a good attitude. I know I make occasional mistakes myself and I don’t appreciate being scolded when I do, therefore I need to extend some good will when another driver makes an error. That said if you do see a driver make an error you need to be alert for the next error as some if these clips make clear
@@frogsplorer Something I was taught when I started driving; everybody else on the road is a fool. I would delete the 'else' everybody will make mistakes. So accept peoples mistakes and learn from your own. P.S. except Ashley, of course, he's perfect.
7:15 I've definitely almost done this a few times, I've gone to move up to the front of the queue for the roundabout only to realise the car in front never actually took that obvious gap in traffic for some reason. The fact I leave a big gap between myself and the car in front means I have plenty of time to react but still, I can see how it happens.
As long as there's a vehicle in front of you, you should have the attitude of, it's not your decision to emerge onto the RB. Or any junction for that matter.
@@RichO1701e It’s never a case of planning to emerge, it’s just me thinking “well obviously that gap is big enough for the car in front” so then I plan to move on only to realise they decided not to go
In Chichester West Sussex you have to plan two cars back on getting out on the roundabout I'd say when cars going around/across it speeds of 50 plus you have to take a chance to get out or you'll be sat there for good eight hours the roundabout is never clear 😊
0:33 There are countless videos on TH-cam where a car takes the wrong line through a roundabout. In this case, as in most cases, the cammer could have avoided trouble by staggered driving, keeping a safe distance behind the blue car, then there is no danger wherever they go.
These roundabouts cause me confusion or maybe i cause confusion when I am on the lane next to an exit, but the lane continues round to the next exit but seemingly when I continue inside the lane to exit by the next exit , people seem to get annoyed when they want to exit by the first exit and I am in their way. And I am a repeat offender😔 🤔
I'm in Canada and I've driven in UK and Europe quite a few times. But this roundabout still confused me, of course in North America we don't have too many of them and when they do appear they are far far simpler in design. I'm confused because for my North American mind it appears the recorder was in the wrong as Skipton looked like it was straight ahead by following lane markings rather than exiting from inside at traffic light controlled roundabout. I know on less controlled ones (without lights) the inside lane exits at 12 o clock and farther but this action seemed incorrect in this scenario
It could be argued the road markings add to the confusion. At the entry to the roundabout both lanes are marked right turn for Skipton. The Vauxhall driver seems a little hesitant. If the middle lane had a straight ahead arrow marked "Skipton only”well before the roundabout, and the inner lane "Skipton and ....." he would have had time to get in the correct lane. Interestingly at the exit point onto the dual carriageway the lane markings continue round towards the traffic lights, as if that was the road with priority. The cammer, when exiting the roundabout crosses those lane markings and a straight ahead arrow leading to the traffic lights. The Highway Code leaves it up to the driver, and I agree the cammer should have been more cautious.
@@thomaselliot2257 me too, if I've been to the retail park where coming out I have to turn left and go round the roundabout to get back to Bingley, I don't generally take the inner lane as have to change lanes going back down Hard Ings Road.
The weird thing about the road markings is the contradiction between the lane markings and the arrows. The lane the blue car is in continues in the roundabout and the arrow points in the direction inside the roundabout, and a straight arrows usually mean you should follow the lane you're in. IMO either the arrow should point left to exit, or it should point straight and the lane markings should follow the exit (so that, to stay in the roundabout, you would have to exit your lane to the right). To know what to do in this video, you essentially have to follow convention and completely disregard the lane markings, which is stupid.
Having recently ridden (on a bicycle) several hundred km through Spain one thing I noticed is that the recent 1.5m clearance rule is very well signed on many roads, the understanding, patience and consideration shown by motorists towards cyclists is far better than in the UK, as a result I felt far safer than when I cycle on main roads in the UK.
In Spain they are generally worse drivers and more inconsiderate but they do give more respect to cyclists on open roads. One thing is though, they have wider roads and less traffic.
@@djfearross4144 Got to say when I drove in Spain (Catalonia) I thought the driving there was a bit better than the UK. Still a lot of speeding but less reckless shit like you get here. Sicily on the other hand.....wow
1:25 I think the use of the horn was appropriate (though didn't need to be held for that long) and not just a retaliation here since it draws the attention of *others* to the situation. Anecdotally it's very common to see other cars blindly follow in cyclist overtakes, and the cyclist might have been too focused on the vehicles overtaking to see the approaching dangerous situation.
Yeah that totally confused me as well, but maybe that's the convention in the UK? The lane markings say "straight arrow" which normally means "follow the current lane". The lane of the blue car continues inside the roundabout. So from what I'm used to (from German lane markings) I would think those lane markings are saying the blue car is not allowed to turn left to exit - which makes no sense, so I assume the conventions are different in the UK, and different in a kind of misleading way.
There truly are some dreadful drivers about. As you say, it's amazing when people have passed their test how much of what they've learnt gets thrown out the window? How often do we hear people say to someone who's just passed, 'well, now you can start to learn properly'? That oft-repeated statement is giving the newly qualified driver permission to dispose of the good driving habits required to pass the test. This compilation is the result. The overtake of the cyclist at 9:24 was by far the worst I've ever seen, potentially murderous - and I don't like using that word facetiously. That single act should have been enough for a ban and a mega-fine.
The problem is most, if not all, driving instructors teach a pupil to pass a test, they don't teach them to drive. They spend every lesson covering the test route so it becomes second nature to the pupil. This is why you often see 2 or 3 Learner cars on the same road in short succession. Examiners are as bad. When my daughter was on her driving test they came across a set of roadwork's and closed road that they hadn't known about. Instead of the examiner using it as a learning curve for her he abandoned the test and made her drive back to the test centre. Again another issue is no one looks near a highway code from the day they pass the test, something needs to be done about this.
@@DasArab You're on this channel of all channels and you say, "most, if not all, driving instructors teach a pupil to pass a test, they don't teach them to drive", and, "no one looks near a highway code from the day they pass the test". Have you never watched the videos or read the comments here?
@@PedroConejo1939 Your saying I'm not allowed an opinion because i'm on a driving instructors channel? Eh, ok. And yes Ive been a subscriber here for a long time, so yes id say ive watched a video or two of Ashley's. My comment about driving instructors teaching pupils to pass a test is 100% correct. And if you think im wrong about people not reading a highway code since they passed their test you only have to look out there at the standard of driving to know that's true too.
@@DasArab You can hold and state any opinion you wish. It's those phrases "most, _if not all"_ when referring to driving instructors teaching only to the test (which I note you've doubled down on), and _"no one"_ reads the Highway Code that I was challenging. That's why I quoted them. Both those statements are demonstrably incorrect and can be shown to be so merely by viewing the videos and comments on this channel, to which you've been subscribed for a long time. So no, I'm not saying you are not allowed an opinion, I'm saying yours is wrong.
1:10 Looks to me like a badly marked roundabout of which there are many which can catch you out if unfamiliar - there's one near me which I know well but a few people who I've been in the car with that don't know it as well have noted the same thing about poor road markings putting you in the wrong lane
In reply to your question at 1:35 regarding the use of the horn, usually I would agree and say no. However, in my experience sometimes a horn like this one allows the other driver to appreciate they’ve done something wrong, which may prevent it happening again in the future. If i’ve ever been told off by horn usage for a mistake that ive genuinely made I think about why they horned me and go (for example) “yeah maybe I was a bit too close to that bike”… I definitely don’t just go around beeping my horn at every mistake I see, but i think in this clip it could’ve benefited the other driver. 🤷♂️
I’ll be on one of these driving fails after my mistake yesterday. Was approaching a roundabout and there was at least 20 cars queuing and for some reason I thought everyone was going left. I went on the hatching which I thought was the beginning of the right turn lane and overtook most of the cars then realised the everyone was queuing for the right hand lane. Wanted the road to swallow me up. Please rid me of this shame 😂
Anyone can make a mistake. Not everyone has the ability to reflect and understand it so that they don't repeat it. Clearly you do and have done so. That is to your credit.
@@R04drunner1 no I think you’re missing what I’m saying I was in the hatching outside the bit turning right to go around the roundabout. I was in no man’s land basically. My original intention was to go in the right lane to go around the round about to take the original 1st exit from where I started from
Re: repeat offenders. I had an appointment in town just after I watched this video earlier this morning. Driving up to the roundabout on the bypass, I saw a Merc suddenly swap lanes out of the right turning lane into the middle, straight ahead, lane right in front of us. I said to my wife, 'This Merc's going to do something stupid,' so I held back. And lo, after a couple of false starts, nearly getting hit by vehicles on the roundabout, he then took off squealy-squealy, right the way around to the right, thus getting two car places ahead. I don't think I've ever had a lesson delivered and the practical application put into practice so soon afterwards.
1:33 was great use of the horn in my opinion. He let everyone know he is there and took premptive action to shop the follow the leader of the chain of cars behind the guilty driver.
Thanks for another great selection of clips. The more of these I watch, the better prepared for these scenarios occurring on my journeys. I'm starting to be able to predict what you are going to say. Was half expecting a UK numberplate on that vehicle driving the wrong way down a motorway in Europe
I have a similar dashcam clip of someone overtaking a cyclist on a bend, which I will send you later on. But I made the decision to send it to the police, who have sent the driver a notice to prosecute. So when they are done with it, I will pass it on to you. Edit: Similar in the fact of me being well under the speed limit and having to stop abruptly to avoid a head-on collision.
@TheKruxed Just Google "upload dashcam footage to police" you should find it comes under "Operation Snap". But, you only have 7 days from the incident to upload it and give a statement.
@rainbowevil I believe it is in all counties/forces in England and Wales. I'm unsure about Scotland, though Edit: A quick search shows that Scotland seems to have its own system in place.
The clip at 0:33 with the 2 lanes heading towards Skipton is at Keighley. It was rebuilt in recent years and still seems to catch people out. The amount of cars you see in the left hand lane who suddenly dart out without looking because they’re in the wrong lane is unbelievable. I always approach it with extreme caution expecting someone to pull out in front of me. The usual indicate and move at the same time seems to be the favourite manoeuvre!
I do think that beeping after a close pass could alert people that they’ve done something wrong, but if they’re oblivious to the danger, they might be shocked, swerve away (thinking they are doing something to oncoming traffic) and into the path of the cyclist…However I do think most people who close pass me don’t even realise how much they have scared me or the danger they pose.
Great video Ashley! Did you say that you were going to go and do some advanced driving instruction with RoSPA or IAM and make a video on it? It would be really informative for new and older drivers to see that they can take further training which helps so much with safety as well as improves skill.
I would love to see that. However, as an IAM Roadsmart advanced driver myself, I used Ashley's videos to help me pass my Masters with Distinction exam. So I would not be surprised if Ashley ended up educating the IAM Observer on safe driving tips!
@@R04drunner1 congrats on your Masters! I passed my RoSPA Advanced driving test with a Silver, I was trained by a tutor but also watched many driving related TH-cam channels, including Ashley's, all the videos really helped. I'd only learned to drive a year ago too! :)
@@Glaiceana thanks that's very kind. Yours was a brilliant result, well done. Keep that positive approach and you will go far - and safely - as a good driver!
The clip at 6:45 is common where I am at one particular junction which is why, if a car is waiting to pull out or turn in I an going slower than the speed limit (~23 mph for my junction which is in a 30) and for the one above I would be slowing to around 33 mph to get extra time and also when the inevitable happens it is a case of slowing then continuing not a full emergency stop. Keeps things safe (reduces risk of rear end) and keeps things flowing 👍
At 4:20 when presented with 4 windows, it really would help to tell us IN WORDS which window to look at - particularly when the action changes from window to window. No doubt you've seen each video multiple times, but it's the first time for us.
On the horn use - it can depend on what's behind the camera. No, I don't mean the driver, I mean the roadway. I habitually use the horn if I have to perform an emergency brake maneuver and there is someone behind me - not to school the fool who caused me to have to brake suddenly, but rather, to make damned sure that the person behind me is alerted to the fact that something weird is going on up ahead, because they aren't always paying attention.
@0:37 You can understand the mistake if you are not local and didn't know Skipton was second exit. Road markings say you can turn right from the middle lane when you in fact can't. Poor road markings really. Lane one should have left arrow for first exit, lane 2 straight on for second exit !and lane 3 straight on (Skipton) and right (Bradford).
@@ashley_neal Which if fine when the number of exits and lane are different, but in this case there are exactly the same amount. So the approach can be labeled as I suggest and the on roundabout markings can be left unchanged. The current form just adds unnecessary risk like shown. The other alternative was for the Vauxhall to stop on the roundabout to try and change lanes blocking the traffic flow. Which all could be solved with a tin of paint.
@@ashley_neal i dont get it. You are blaming the blue vauxhall for being in wrong lane but how the cammer is right when is he crossing to the left from the lane showing go straight or right only
5:20 But after the lorry, shouldn’t the car waiting to turn right just creep forward a bit to try and allow other cars past on his left for best flow? It can’t have been intentional that if anyone wants to turn right at this junction then it’s one car per traffic light cycle?
'Do other road users need telling they've done something wrong, even after the event?' Well you seem to think so, as you demonstrated 30 seconds into your 'me me me' video last year 👍
5:48 that is truly terrifying, being in the back of a queue like that is one of the scariest places to be for that very reason, you should leave a big enough gap to give you an escape route where possible if the person coming up behind looks like they may not stop, that van driver is so lucky there was a gap in the next lane.
4:55 I treat _all_ oncoming cyclists as hazards - not because of their cycling, but because of overtaking idiots in cars like this who seem unable to use their brakes.
Being generous I could be argued that the horn is warning any following vehicles (being very generous). Also, perception and response times means a decision to use the horn is at the moment of perception and then response means although the dirver has committed to using it by the time they do it feels late and hence appears to be used to admonish the other driver.
some years back there was a fatal crash in my town where the driver of a car leaned across to grab something out of the footwell, and drifted into the guardrail. the driver and the other two of his passengers survived with severe injuries. the people in the car he bounced into were also severely hurt/
With reference to the "drivers" that make mistakes; an old 🎥 quote (Goldfinger) springs to mind....... Once is happenstance; Twice is coincidence; Three times is emnity action. Stay safe out there.
@@ashley_neal Hey Ash nice to hear from you. The Merci build has been impressive and loved the detail with rebuilding the engine. The C63 floats my boat what with the remap and performance exhaust... that sounds amazing 🤌🤌🤌 What's your favourite?
0:38 since they put the traffic lights in, people have been getting into the wrong lane so many times at that roundabout. It’s arguably made it worse to navigate with there being so many lanes now
5:50 You can tell straight away that van is overloaded, so the braking distance will be increased. With the HGV in front, that car was very close to getting crushed.
0:56, in defence of the Blue car, the arrow points right. 1:23, horn not needed. Want to check history, check the MOT history if the car is less than 3 years old. 3? adverts in this clip?
According to the highway code, no, other road users shouldn't be told by use of horn that they have done something wrong. But you asked if they should be, and I say hell, yes.
1:25 There should be penalties enforced for misuse of the horn. Due to its constant misuse, people think it is an instrument of aggression rather than warning.
A few days ago I had a similar experience to the cyclist towards the end of the video. I reached a heavily potholed section of road, checked behind me, signalled right, pulled into the middle of the road for about 10 seconds. The alternatives were falling off my bike or coming to a dead stop. The driver behind, who had had plenty of warning, drove uncomfortably close with her horn pressed down before overtaking on a bend. I think some cyclists overuse primary position but this war that seems to be fuelled by the self righteous Cycling Mikey types on one side and the motorists who can think only of their own progress on the other helps no one.
1:22 I think this is an appropriate use of the horn, even if it is a little long. Some drivers just don't think that what they've done is wrong, they may not even notice that they caused an oncoming vehicle to perform an avoidance manoeuvre if this is something they do regularly. A horn in this situation isn't so much a telling off, but notifying that the overtaking driver did something dangerous enough to perform "evasive action". Hopefully with enough people beeping at them after doing something stupid like that overtake, they'll put 2+2 together and realise that it's dangerous. HOWEVER there is a potential consequence; the driver may just perform an extremely close pass on the cyclist to avoid going into the oncoming lane. That's even worse.
I toot my horn couple of short ones, I think sometimes it wakes people up makes them concentrate a bit more, especially pedestrians on phone crossing road, do belive it could safe lives. Toot at a junction when someone waiting a while to get out and has gone in a trance is better than just flashing, it's there to aid driving not for reprimands. But that's just me.
Wow Ashley, some shockers there! At 1:22 after ensuring I was slowing and/or stopping safely to avoid a collision (the priority), I would probably have sounded my horn too. (1) To warn anybody tempted to follow (2) To alert the offending driver to their mistake so they don't do it again. But I accept it's not proper Highway Code driving, which regards use of the horn only for warning other road users of your presence when moving, or to avert danger (when stationary). The horn was not being used aggressively, so does not directly contravene the Highway Code. I notice the same thing happened at 06:50. The use of the horn must be balanced with the risk that (a) another road user may interpret it as aggressive and over-react (b) it may be a distraction to other road users. I know when I was a Learner Driver, I assumed every use of the horn was aimed at me. It was not always the case! At 05:49, good job to the cammer who held back and gave the white van room to swerve. At 06:50, I recognise that junction! It's at the top of the North Road in Carrickfergus. I think I submitted a video to Ashely on 29 April which included that junction, but I haven't seen any of mine on channel yet. (I live in hope!) It is a notorious spot for accidents, but sadly a campaign to have traffic lights at the junction has never got the traction needed. And, yes, even for those without that local knowledge, there was an advanced clue that the van driver was about to do that. The way the van progressed forward as the car in front turned off, with no slowing, was a big clue. When I come to that junction, I ease off the gas, keep a foot ready to pounce on the brake pedal and my thumb ready to sound the horn to warn other road users about to emerge into me!
Ashley, we have what we call speed-roundabouts over here in the Netherlands. Over here in the city i live in, 's-Hertogenbosch, we have one very nice example. It is at the junction of the Bruistensingel and the Empelseweg. (tried a link but seems TH-cam doesn't allow that. Not even a googlemaps link.) This roundabout makes life much easier. People have to choose the correct lane in order to end up taking the correct exit. You cant switch lanes on the roundabout, unless you want to hop over a barrier that probably will damage your vehicle if you try it. When you approach this roundabout, you can easily see if you can keep going or need to stop or what have you. The only downside to this roundabout is that they changed the entire layout or the surroundings. The channel was dug a few years ago, it used to go through city center but they decided to alter the route a bit to lessen the congestion of the center of the city. And that worked. BUT they had to bridge over the channel, and connect it to the highway on the other side. And that results in a very steep bridge. When you try to go up it in a fully loaded truck, it will go very very slow. Anyways, that is off topic entirely. But have a look at that roundabout (if the link functions, that is). I haven't seen any of em in Britain on your videos, or anywhere else. And i think, personally, that this is one of the best roundabouts we have in our country. I could give another example: Keizer Karelplein in Nijmegen. You only have to type in Keizer Karelplein into google, hit enter, and you will see the most horrible roundabout there is.
Hi Ashley, since you ask I will answer your first question, in my opinion there was no other reason than to express irritation, the proper use of the horn is to offer a warning to another road user while there is a chance they an alter their behaviour after hearing your horn, when the whole thing has happened and is basically over there is no good reason for hooting. This compilation is of course a series of episodes of bad driving none of them can fairly be described as un-intended and put together two things are clear, one that such bad driving is far too common and he second is that most times the potential crash does not happen, high risk indeed but not such high danger. Cheers, Richard.
I think the horn in the second clip was appropriate, it was initiated as people were still violating right of way, and still in the process of nearly causing an accident, especially for the second car. To me it says "I'm here, don't hit me". They hit the horn at the same time they hit the brakes to avoid a collision. Had your viewer not reacted, that would have been a collision. Some people are truly oblivious. If that wasn't a time to use the horn to avoid a collision, I dunno what would be.
If I beeped everytime an oncoming vehicle overtook a cyclist as I was passing it on the other side then my car would need a horn replacement at every MOT check! 5:38 - is that your viewer cutting the clip short before they creep into that cycle stop space? 😏 5:57 - I don't think some people understand that they are operating machinery that could kill someone. That's worse than phone driving (which is in itself terrible). 8:14 - never even thought to ask themselves why the car in front had stopped. It's terrifying that people like this are on the road
The one swerving earlier no doubt dropped his mobile phone and was reaching down to get it. Does no one use their brakes? cause the horn is not going to stop you.
7:40 this is in France and it happens more often than not. that car looks like the car that crashed into a french police van earlier this week killing the 3 officers.
8:26 That road has already been reduced to 50mph and is an 'accident reduction scheme' road. It's quite long stretch of road but with various junctions, villages etc so I can see why it's a 50mph road.
few weeks ago, 3 hour drive went through two towns with a limit of 50mph. one what amazed me was 40 limit wide open A road trucking road but just before town the limit went to 50mph and stayed. odd feeling doing 50 through a town but that way back way there i slowed to 40 as more people and traffic so more dangers but way back quite straight through both at 50mph. its not about safety what i can see it just a cash cow as 60 between towns but 30-40 in towns but what i seen its backwards. see that more than you expect to limit goes up for a town from a big wide safe trucking road where no ones walking to a town with dangers limit goes up
most of these clips are a great example of the mentality of must get infront, when in fact this gets you pretty much no where on the roads today apart from possibly getting to your destination two seconds quicker or actually never!
8:47 - your viewer MASSIVELY in the wrong for flooring to beat the amber/red light. It's selfishness like that, that leaves right turners stranded in the middle of the junction.
I think at 1:23, while the cammer definitely was making use of the horn as a telling off, I think it was also still very necessary. The blue Vauxhall (the last car to stay behind the cyclist) could have done the exact same as the car in front, carelessly overtaking the cyclist with the moral of "if the car in front can manage it, so can I". The use of the horn here could have very well slowed the Blue Vauxhall down and warned him in due time. A long shot maybe but definitely plausible in my opinion!
1:25 honestly, I wish I could say no, but most people simply will not care when they've done something like that until it's in their face. Obviously it's best not to lay on the horn if there's a child or a dog nearby that could become easily startled though
5:45 van driver was probably on his mobile. Geez, I saw some vids from my part of the world where some guy was watching a video on his phone while driving, and the guy was on a provisional license... 8:11 I'm floored... 8:21 Probably stolen?
The clip at 07:00 is actually at a junction but the same applies, people often only look to the right hand side. The junction joins a dual carriageway which is in a 30mph zone. Also a note, both vans are actually taking up two lanes (52.5005910, -2.0188129)
I had a sort of similar experience to the zebra crossing clip recently. I saw an ambulance with flashing lights in my mirror so I indicated, slowed down and moved to the left. The car behind me overtook me going right into the path of the ambulance which had to break. He'd obviously decided to overtake me without even looking in his mirror. I know he didn't do it on purpose because a few metres later he pulled over to let the ambulance past. Better late than never.
People always focus on “must get in front” rather than work out why people are pulling over. I had one years ago almost hit an ambulance wheb I stopped one side, the vehicles the other side stopped and the one behind me thought they would go through forcing an ambulance into an emergency stop I have had one similar where it was the other way round and the ambulance was coming towards but the car behind overtook and even had the cheek to stop in front of the ambulance and force traffic on the other carriageway to move so the ambulance could get past. I wish a had the dashcam for that one but I really hope the ambulance had one and the driver reported
emergency services drivers will see that multiple times on a single run. the other bad hazard is when two emergency services vehicles are traveling in convoy, people will pull to the side for one to pass and then emerge without looking directly into the side of the second.
@@kenbrown2808 One of the things I've learnt here is that ESVs often travel in pairs or more. Recently saw no less than five police cars, each about 30 seconds apart turning out for what must have been a cracking punch up. Not far behind was an ambulance. Some drivers didn't deal with that very well at all.
@PedroConejo1939 in germany, fire response often runs in convoy. In my town, ambulance and fire are sometimes coming from the same fire station, but usually they are converging from different directions.
1:23 it depends. If I just have to get off the gas pedal and break slightly, no, I wouldn’t use the horn. If they do such a horrible overtake that I need to slam the breaks then yes, I’ll gladly use the horn
1:00…. Many years ago when roundabouts had lanes but no road arrows there was exactly this problem when timid drivers would be too afraid pull across to the right lane when turning right at a roundabout. ….. I guess these arrows painted on the road nowadays really solved that issue then 🤔… or maybe not.
The (1st) cycle rider is too close to the kerb edge, ride primarily until it is safe to go secondary position. Riding like this can indicate to car drivers that it's okay to overtake when it is clearly not safe to do so. Cycle riders should keep at least 0.5m (approx 1.5 feet) away from the kerb edge and further where it is safer when riding on busy roads with faster-moving vehicles, this is the distance from the rider and kerb, not the wheels and kerb.
6:45 im not too far from that road, your be surprised how often it happens, theres a dump round there, not to mention schools just on down that road, its desperate for people speeding round there
I believe use of the horn is only for stress relief. If someone honks at me for driving carefully when I've spotted a potential hazard, or if I honk at someone for using a turn lane to pass through an intersection, in either case it will be ignored.
In response to your punitive honking to bad behaviour inquiry I feel differently about it. I've never seen it as punishment but more as calling out bad behaviour, as I've mentioned before I'm Canadian and in North America as you may have noticed we have a more relaxed enforcement and education (in comparison) and entitled culture with drivers behaving as though they can do as they like. I see it as drivers knowing what they're doing as theoretically wrong and incorrect but without anyone calling them out they assume it's ok to do certain things are definitely not and unsafe and illegal
The lane markings in the roundabout at the beginning totally confused me as a German driver, but maybe the conventions are different in the UK in roundabouts? The lane markings say "straight arrow" which normally means "follow the current lane". The lane of the blue car continues inside the roundabout. So from what I'm used to (from German lane markings) I would think those lane markings are saying the blue car is not allowed to turn left to exit - which makes no sense, so I assume the conventions are different in the UK, and different in a somewhat misleading way.
Nearly always the same story, the impatient drivers who are in a hurry often take silly risks to get no further ahead, then the slower patient driver who takes time to assess the road ahead and helping to increase flow for everyone makes the same (or better) progress than the impatient driver.
8:01 I consider myself a professional professional driver! If I cannot safely overtake a cyclist, I’ll plod along behind hanging back until I Can safely overtake; i.e. I can see clear to do so and no junctions coming up that can cause an issue! If you’re stuck behind a slow moving truck, be patient, they can see way more than you, and if you dash for it, they may pull out on you having checked their mirrors just before You go for it! You Will lose the initial argument (your car will be damaged, not their car which is back at the depot), and more & more hauliers ate using multiple cameras; if the driver did check & you went for it just after, driver’s covered tbh
Thank you, it was me driving my van. Something just didn't feel right when I saw the blue car in my left hand mirror but it scared the hell out of me when he continued to carry on round instead of peeling left where he should have gone.
Blue car driver is maybe not from the area. I'm in Canada and we don't have many roundabouts and nothing anywhere near this complex. What I don't understand is it just says Skipton straight ahead but nothing tells you when the exit appears other than the green sign. I've driven there a few times but I found this confusing. Wondering if you can explain since the markings say Skipton straight ahead I would think to do just that, go straight ahead as blue car did.
Yes, may not have been local (hence I didn't react in any way, no horn, shouting, etc.) and we all mistakes. What's happened here is the blue car 'missed' the exit he should have taken for his approach lane and is actually proceeding right round the roundabout now, crossing in front of me who was heading for lane 2 of the straight ahead Skipton exit (as per my approach lane). As a general rule, if you want to right at a roundabout you head for the right hand lane. Straight on and left is usually the left hand approach lane. Of course signs and road markings will indicate such as in this case when the blue car starts in the Skipton lane but exits for Bradford, crossing the Skipton exit in doing so.
@@fergy1ful those road markings are messed up. You completely ignore the fact that you turned left from the lane where the road marking is showing go straight or to the right only . Gladly you are local thus you anticipated correctly other's car movement. Correct marking would be that RHS lane would point out to the Bradford direction only and middle lane to Skipton. You can see correct markings before entering the roundabout
Had a lovely example yesterday but sadly no footage as I'm in the market for a new dash camera and I need to be a little tight with my money. Nothing spectacular happened, Just a foreign camper van sailing right on out into the roundabout I was already on. Saw them coming a mile away though so was able to adjust my speed accordingly. Said van was coming off the Dornoch Firth on to the bypass that passes the town I was heading to. Always best to make these kind of incidents a non-issue on the road when possible.
On using the horn for a poor overtake of a cyclist: while I understand why you would want to use your horn, as a cyclist, you're already frightened and distracted by having to deal with a poor overtake, adding a horn blast into the mix can cause a sudden shock and be the thing that causes the accident. Please don't use your horn like that.
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@Ashley, you said in you're vid to call the police right away. Can you use your phone while driving to call the police/emergency services?
Hi Ashley! I wonder what your thoughts are concerning banning drivers more, ie just 6 pts! Do you think drivers would respect the rules more? Would the economy fail if 50% of car drivers lost the privilege?
9:16 Should be getting a police visit, that is shocking.
They did… It took them a while to catch the driver, but I am told they were brought in to a police station and now have to take a fit to drive assessment
came here to say the same.
Absolutely!
@@matthewdray83 This is why the attitude towards cyclists will never change. Taking a 'fit to drive' assessment is not a proper punishment. It's a slap on the wrist, one that will lead the driver to resent cyclists more and act even more dangerously in future.
These people are full of hate, and must be punished properly with heavy fines and having their right to operate a machine capable of killing those they hate taken off of them completely and permanently.
@@Pattoe
Very assumptive position.
Drivers have to pay for such assessments out of pocket, which is often twice or even thrice as hefty then a fine. The price alone makes many positively aware of how serious traffic participation is and try to do better.
And for those that won't learn from it, what makes you think such drivers give a damn about rights and licenses?
I hope some of these were submitted to the police. The white Audi on the crossing was especially bad
It was horrifying. I have been a direct eyewitness to a child being hit by a car - fortunately it was a low speed and there were only minor injuries but it's imprinted on my brain forever. Unfortunately, without a better look at the number plate from other sources, CPS might not do anything to this scumbag.
@@theaikidoka cycling Mikey submits phone footage plus commits to court appearance as a witness. That is always enough to secure a conviction
Lets hope its not police scotland, I've just experienced them not being interested in clips of the super dangerous kind unless they can come around your house for a demonstration and for an official charge against the other driver, they obviously don't care
@@TheKruxed I live in Aberdeenshire where the police and station are awesome. I guess you had poor luck and got a tyrant.
@@leetori1 No idea who I got, just went through police scotland website, they phoned me and were not interested in any of it unless I had them around my house to live view the clip and for me to press formal charges despite the fact I just observed the issue.. just crazy to me
The horn is interesting. Whilst I agree it's not really for 'telling off', I've had 1 or 2 situations where I've driven sillier than I should and a well earned horn from another car has really drilled in the lesson and slight embarrassment on my end.
Its a dificult one as reprimanding someone with a horn, although often deserved, results in negative reaction. So many times i see someone pull out on or cut someone up, the horn gets used them the bad driver does a brake check or similar road ragey response. So although im all for calling people out and challenging people on bad behaviour in public, it has its risks behind the wheel.
For me, the situations in some of these clips warrant a lifetime ban. People drive like this because they know they can get away with it but it eventually only ends one way. If people knew that they categorically will never ever drive again if caught doing such a dangerous manoeuvre they might think twice before they do it. And I'm not talking about people that do a bad emerge or jump a red light, these are all things we can do accidentally and obviously don't warrant a lifetime ban. But you don't accidentally overtake whilst passing a junction in a 30mph zone at 5:02, you don't accidentally overtake a huge queue of traffic through traffic lights like the idiot at 7:45 and you most certainly don't accidentally overtake a car at a zebra crossing and nearly wipe out a pedestrian at 8:10. All these (especially the last one) deserve lifetime bans, there is simply no place on our roads for people that drive like this and the sooner they are removed the better.
Yeah - but while they can coin in £12:50 a day from people going to work in ULEZ zones, they don't care
There is an assumption that those driving like they don’t care already have a license that can be banned for a period of time (including full life ban). I’m not saying those in these clips fall into that category but there are quite a few out there
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Do you think they care? These are (not especially these but....) the drivers that will continue to drive even without or with a revoked driving license.
Lifetime ban wouldn't work. Some people would then continue drive for life without a licence or any insurance. What is needed is more traffic police enforcement, but they have been replaced with safety camera vans that only send out letters and fines rather than educating the driver at the roadside. Unfortunately it is all about the money rather than safety.
100% agree. These people could only have done what they did through a complete lack of care for the safety of everyone around them, which proves that they are not at all fit to operate a machine capable of killing people
I’m really appalled by the overtakes of cyclists in these clips. It’s like some people absolutely refuse to be slowed down by a cyclist by even a few seconds and will even overtake on a blind corner with solid whites. They don’t seem to have any care for the cyclist, oncoming traffic, or even themselves. Obviously the cyclist is most vulnerable
The funny thing is somedays people overtake fine and other days it's like they forget how to overtake
A lack of braincells. It's like they see the cyclist and are only capable of a pavlovian response of MUST OVERTAKE NOW. They lack the foresight to contemplate the situation five seconds into the future.
I think a lot of people do not consider it an overtake at all. They don't carry out any of the routine they would go through to do what they consider an overtake. They think of the cyclist in the road as a small obstacle they just go straight past whenever they get to it. I bet at least 99% of the people that drive round a cyclist on a tight, blind bend wouldn't consider an overtake of a motor vehicle there, and would call whoever tried it a lunatic.
We need an education campaign pointing out that passing a cyclist on the road is an "overtake" and needs to be measured like any other.
@James Howard excellent points. It is for that very reason to use primary position as it does force the overtake. A few years ago with a group which had 0 road craft, would everytime here a car from behind would go straight into the gutter. Avengly I had to tell them to stop as it was put us in danger plus it was also putting the driver in danger as well. I personally sat at the back bit kept out in primary. So if anyone did come past they had being forced to go wide. Once clear I would use secondary. I want the cars to get past as quickly as possible but it has to be safe. Generally I find if you warn drivers it's not safe to overtake. Then pull over to let them past, they generally appreciate it and will give a signal of thanks. When you've ridden in groups the number 1 rule is to look after the collective of the group.
If they don't seem to care anything for the cyclist, that's because they don't.
Incidents like the one at 1:38 seem to happen all the time in my school vehicle, even when I'm the one driving it. It's so easy to get stuck in a loop of holding back when the way isn't clear (as you should), only for other drivers to pass you and enter the space, leaving you with the choice to keep being obstructed or becoming the obstruction yourself in order to end the cycle.
1:23 whether or not that was the intent, use of horn may have deterred the next car from also attempting to overtake without looking.
Using the horn may also cause an overreaction and move back towards the cyclist?
@@ColinSmith2001 That is one reason I avoid horn use with someone overtaking a cyclist badly. Most of them realise how idiotic their move was when they have to slow down themselves to complete or abort the overtake
Using the Horn whilst the event is happening is pointless and dangerous. Most car horns require taking your hand off the wheel and onto the centre of the steering wheel. Not the sort of reaction to take when avoiding another car.
I sound my horn every time I see an overtake to deter the next cat from also attempting to overtake without looking.
I'm always nervous to use the horn around cyclists. I'm scared I'll startle them and make them fall.
I got caught out at a roundabout several years ago. I was the second car on the approach, there was a gap in the traffic on the roundabout and the car in front moved off. I switched my attention to the right, saw there was still a gap and moved forward, only to find that, for some inexplicable reason, the driver in front had decided to stop again, halfway across the line, and I nudged their back bumper before I could stop. I learned a valuable lesson that day, and now I take nothing for granted.
Same thing for me, although at a junction. I thought I had seen the car in front moving off, started to look to the right and bang.
The problem is many people get to the roundabout then look . Instead of planning thier entrance onto the roundabout
1:24 I do it like this too, but it's more for my own anger management than telling the other driver "you done goofed", since I already know that they either don't care, or are oblivious enough that they wouldn't even know why they hear the horn.
Granted, I only do this once my patience is over, as in several drivers putting me in danger by cutting in etc. one after another, here I'd just gesticulate 🤷
@9:04, reprimand or not, there was plenty of time for the cammer to stop when the amber light came on, especially as it was at a slow speed. He only just cleared the stop line when the light turned red.
nb. there seems to be one particular car brand that appears disproportionately in the most egregious examples of bad driving.
They had plenty of time to stop, which is why they sped up
Exactly, amber gambler, totally in the wrong.
@@mickcy9954 Yep, and to quote the Highway Code :-
"AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident"
Some will claim it's not a 'must' rule, but the must bit applies to the following of traffic signals, and the bit on red doesn't say must either. and nobody will claim that's not compulsory.
"RED means ‘Stop’. Wait behind the stop line on the carriageway"
Of course, as there's judgement involved over whether it is safe to stop, then I think that chances of being fined for failing to stop for an amber is virtually zero. However, that doesn't make it good practice to push your luck, or that of others.
@@TheEulerID a good reminder!
The cammer *should* have stopped before the line, but on the other hand, I don't think it was great driving from the driving school vehicle either. I can only assume they were preoccupied watching the lights rather than focusing on the oncoming traffic, because it was pretty clear what the cammer was going to do there. And the horn was also completely pointless.
Good mention about repeat offenders. I've been in cars where someone has cursed another driver for an error a few times and called them terrible drivers and so on and I try to say to them it's one error, even if it is a bad error. If we were to see them make more mistakes while they were in our view we could then start to believe they are a bad driver rather than a good one who is only human.
I think this is a good attitude. I know I make occasional mistakes myself and I don’t appreciate being scolded when I do, therefore I need to extend some good will when another driver makes an error. That said if you do see a driver make an error you need to be alert for the next error as some if these clips make clear
@@frogsplorer Something I was taught when I started driving; everybody else on the road is a fool. I would delete the 'else' everybody will make mistakes. So accept peoples mistakes and learn from your own.
P.S. except Ashley, of course, he's perfect.
What's funnier (and scarier) is people looking at other people’s mistakes totally unaware of their own.
@@StefanVeenstra yep concentrate on your own driving. People do silly things you can't control, but as you can deal with it. Its mostly fine
7:15 I've definitely almost done this a few times, I've gone to move up to the front of the queue for the roundabout only to realise the car in front never actually took that obvious gap in traffic for some reason. The fact I leave a big gap between myself and the car in front means I have plenty of time to react but still, I can see how it happens.
As long as there's a vehicle in front of you, you should have the attitude of, it's not your decision to emerge onto the RB. Or any junction for that matter.
@@RichO1701e It’s never a case of planning to emerge, it’s just me thinking “well obviously that gap is big enough for the car in front” so then I plan to move on only to realise they decided not to go
In Chichester West Sussex you have to plan two cars back on getting out on the roundabout I'd say when cars going around/across it speeds of 50 plus you have to take a chance to get out or you'll be sat there for good eight hours the roundabout is never clear 😊
0:33 There are countless videos on TH-cam where a car takes the wrong line through a roundabout. In this case, as in most cases, the cammer could have avoided trouble by staggered driving, keeping a safe distance behind the blue car, then there is no danger wherever they go.
These roundabouts cause me confusion or maybe i cause confusion when I am on the lane next to an exit, but the lane continues round to the next exit but seemingly when I continue inside the lane to exit by the next exit , people seem to get annoyed when they want to exit by the first exit and I am in their way. And I am a repeat offender😔 🤔
I'm in Canada and I've driven in UK and Europe quite a few times. But this roundabout still confused me, of course in North America we don't have too many of them and when they do appear they are far far simpler in design.
I'm confused because for my North American mind it appears the recorder was in the wrong as Skipton looked like it was straight ahead by following lane markings rather than exiting from inside at traffic light controlled roundabout. I know on less controlled ones (without lights) the inside lane exits at 12 o clock and farther but this action seemed incorrect in this scenario
It could be argued the road markings add to the confusion. At the entry to the roundabout both lanes are marked right turn for Skipton. The Vauxhall driver seems a little hesitant. If the middle lane had a straight ahead arrow marked "Skipton only”well before the roundabout, and the inner lane "Skipton and ....." he would have had time to get in the correct lane. Interestingly at the exit point onto the dual carriageway the lane markings continue round towards the traffic lights, as if that was the road with priority. The cammer, when exiting the roundabout crosses those lane markings and a straight ahead arrow leading to the traffic lights. The Highway Code leaves it up to the driver, and I agree the cammer should have been more cautious.
@@thomaselliot2257 me too, if I've been to the retail park where coming out I have to turn left and go round the roundabout to get back to Bingley, I don't generally take the inner lane as have to change lanes going back down Hard Ings Road.
The weird thing about the road markings is the contradiction between the lane markings and the arrows. The lane the blue car is in continues in the roundabout and the arrow points in the direction inside the roundabout, and a straight arrows usually mean you should follow the lane you're in. IMO either the arrow should point left to exit, or it should point straight and the lane markings should follow the exit (so that, to stay in the roundabout, you would have to exit your lane to the right).
To know what to do in this video, you essentially have to follow convention and completely disregard the lane markings, which is stupid.
Having recently ridden (on a bicycle) several hundred km through Spain one thing I noticed is that the recent 1.5m clearance rule is very well signed on many roads, the understanding, patience and consideration shown by motorists towards cyclists is far better than in the UK, as a result I felt far safer than when I cycle on main roads in the UK.
There was signage in Ireland this Easter too.
Doing most things on the continent is easier, safer, and better as it seems they have more respect for one another
In Spain they are generally worse drivers and more inconsiderate but they do give more respect to cyclists on open roads. One thing is though, they have wider roads and less traffic.
@@Phlash1 Spain really stood out compared to the other two countries I rode through (England and France)
@@djfearross4144 Got to say when I drove in Spain (Catalonia) I thought the driving there was a bit better than the UK. Still a lot of speeding but less reckless shit like you get here. Sicily on the other hand.....wow
1:25 I think the use of the horn was appropriate (though didn't need to be held for that long) and not just a retaliation here since it draws the attention of *others* to the situation. Anecdotally it's very common to see other cars blindly follow in cyclist overtakes, and the cyclist might have been too focused on the vehicles overtaking to see the approaching dangerous situation.
People often follow blindly other cars overtaking. That's why I blow my horn at any overtaking car to warn others of the risk.😂😂😂
Agreed, a short "toot" to advise of your existence here would be appropriate. Especially for any cars which may be tempted to follow.
There should have been a train horn if it's up to me. And some LED extra high beams too.
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0:33 The lengths some people will go to to avoid ending up in Skipton.
9:20 - I'm gobsmacked at that overtake from the ford... such little respect for the life of the cyclist.
1:03 Honest question: so does straight arrow mean "leave the roundabout"? The blue car literally goes where the arrow is pointing.
Yeah that totally confused me as well, but maybe that's the convention in the UK? The lane markings say "straight arrow" which normally means "follow the current lane". The lane of the blue car continues inside the roundabout. So from what I'm used to (from German lane markings) I would think those lane markings are saying the blue car is not allowed to turn left to exit - which makes no sense, so I assume the conventions are different in the UK, and different in a kind of misleading way.
There truly are some dreadful drivers about. As you say, it's amazing when people have passed their test how much of what they've learnt gets thrown out the window? How often do we hear people say to someone who's just passed, 'well, now you can start to learn properly'? That oft-repeated statement is giving the newly qualified driver permission to dispose of the good driving habits required to pass the test. This compilation is the result.
The overtake of the cyclist at 9:24 was by far the worst I've ever seen, potentially murderous - and I don't like using that word facetiously. That single act should have been enough for a ban and a mega-fine.
I agree. Just wonder if they actually passed or even took a driving test. Just not enough traffic police out there nowadays, relying on CTV, etc.
The problem is most, if not all, driving instructors teach a pupil to pass a test, they don't teach them to drive. They spend every lesson covering the test route so it becomes second nature to the pupil. This is why you often see 2 or 3 Learner cars on the same road in short succession. Examiners are as bad. When my daughter was on her driving test they came across a set of roadwork's and closed road that they hadn't known about. Instead of the examiner using it as a learning curve for her he abandoned the test and made her drive back to the test centre. Again another issue is no one looks near a highway code from the day they pass the test, something needs to be done about this.
@@DasArab You're on this channel of all channels and you say, "most, if not all, driving instructors teach a pupil to pass a test, they don't teach them to drive", and, "no one looks near a highway code from the day they pass the test". Have you never watched the videos or read the comments here?
@@PedroConejo1939 Your saying I'm not allowed an opinion because i'm on a driving instructors channel? Eh, ok. And yes Ive been a subscriber here for a long time, so yes id say ive watched a video or two of Ashley's. My comment about driving instructors teaching pupils to pass a test is 100% correct. And if you think im wrong about people not reading a highway code since they passed their test you only have to look out there at the standard of driving to know that's true too.
@@DasArab You can hold and state any opinion you wish. It's those phrases "most, _if not all"_ when referring to driving instructors teaching only to the test (which I note you've doubled down on), and _"no one"_ reads the Highway Code that I was challenging. That's why I quoted them. Both those statements are demonstrably incorrect and can be shown to be so merely by viewing the videos and comments on this channel, to which you've been subscribed for a long time. So no, I'm not saying you are not allowed an opinion, I'm saying yours is wrong.
2:30m… as soon as you see someone driving like this you know that they are in a hurry, the safest thing to do is stay back keep out of their way
In a hurry to heaven, or to prison?
2:30 I cycle through this junction in Oxford almost daily and it's always problematic
1:10 Looks to me like a badly marked roundabout of which there are many which can catch you out if unfamiliar - there's one near me which I know well but a few people who I've been in the car with that don't know it as well have noted the same thing about poor road markings putting you in the wrong lane
In reply to your question at 1:35 regarding the use of the horn, usually I would agree and say no. However, in my experience sometimes a horn like this one allows the other driver to appreciate they’ve done something wrong, which may prevent it happening again in the future. If i’ve ever been told off by horn usage for a mistake that ive genuinely made I think about why they horned me and go (for example) “yeah maybe I was a bit too close to that bike”… I definitely don’t just go around beeping my horn at every mistake I see, but i think in this clip it could’ve benefited the other driver. 🤷♂️
I’ll be on one of these driving fails after my mistake yesterday. Was approaching a roundabout and there was at least 20 cars queuing and for some reason I thought everyone was going left. I went on the hatching which I thought was the beginning of the right turn lane and overtook most of the cars then realised the everyone was queuing for the right hand lane. Wanted the road to swallow me up. Please rid me of this shame 😂
The difference being that you did it by accident and admit your mistake. Some of these muppets do it on purpose and have no shame.
Anyone can make a mistake. Not everyone has the ability to reflect and understand it so that they don't repeat it. Clearly you do and have done so. That is to your credit.
Thanks for your honesty!
If that happens again, go all the way around the Roundabout. 🙂
@@R04drunner1 no I think you’re missing what I’m saying I was in the hatching outside the bit turning right to go around the roundabout. I was in no man’s land basically. My original intention was to go in the right lane to go around the round about to take the original 1st exit from where I started from
@@JordanLR I wouldn't be surprised to find out I am missing what you've said! LOL. No worries bud.
Re: repeat offenders. I had an appointment in town just after I watched this video earlier this morning. Driving up to the roundabout on the bypass, I saw a Merc suddenly swap lanes out of the right turning lane into the middle, straight ahead, lane right in front of us. I said to my wife, 'This Merc's going to do something stupid,' so I held back. And lo, after a couple of false starts, nearly getting hit by vehicles on the roundabout, he then took off squealy-squealy, right the way around to the right, thus getting two car places ahead. I don't think I've ever had a lesson delivered and the practical application put into practice so soon afterwards.
1:33 was great use of the horn in my opinion. He let everyone know he is there and took premptive action to shop the follow the leader of the chain of cars behind the guilty driver.
Yes, every time I see an overtake, I preemptively blast my horn to stop follow the leader of chain of cars behind the guilty car.
Thanks for another great selection of clips. The more of these I watch, the better prepared for these scenarios occurring on my journeys. I'm starting to be able to predict what you are going to say. Was half expecting a UK numberplate on that vehicle driving the wrong way down a motorway in Europe
I have a similar dashcam clip of someone overtaking a cyclist on a bend, which I will send you later on. But I made the decision to send it to the police, who have sent the driver a notice to prosecute. So when they are done with it, I will pass it on to you.
Edit: Similar in the fact of me being well under the speed limit and having to stop abruptly to avoid a head-on collision.
So how do you do that? my police force don't want clips
@TheKruxed Just Google "upload dashcam footage to police" you should find it comes under "Operation Snap". But, you only have 7 days from the incident to upload it and give a statement.
@@CptCactus-11-20-6 is operation snap in effect in all counties/policing zones? I didn’t seem to find it a couple of months ago for where I live.
@rainbowevil I believe it is in all counties/forces in England and Wales. I'm unsure about Scotland, though
Edit:
A quick search shows that Scotland seems to have its own system in place.
@@CptCactus-11-20-6 There is no such service in scotland
Some truly shocking driving in these clips
The one at the pedestrian crossing... 😱
The clip at 0:33 with the 2 lanes heading towards Skipton is at Keighley. It was rebuilt in recent years and still seems to catch people out. The amount of cars you see in the left hand lane who suddenly dart out without looking because they’re in the wrong lane is unbelievable. I always approach it with extreme caution expecting someone to pull out in front of me. The usual indicate and move at the same time seems to be the favourite manoeuvre!
Cheers Ashley! Followed your instructions at 6:37 and got rear ended after just stopping!! Clip coming soon! 🤣😜
It looks like the van was loaded heavy. @5:53 after the swerve now seems to be slightly listing to the left.
I do think that beeping after a close pass could alert people that they’ve done something wrong, but if they’re oblivious to the danger, they might be shocked, swerve away (thinking they are doing something to oncoming traffic) and into the path of the cyclist…However I do think most people who close pass me don’t even realise how much they have scared me or the danger they pose.
5:48 has to be on his phone.
Great video Ashley! Did you say that you were going to go and do some advanced driving instruction with RoSPA or IAM and make a video on it? It would be really informative for new and older drivers to see that they can take further training which helps so much with safety as well as improves skill.
I would love to see that.
However, as an IAM Roadsmart advanced driver myself, I used Ashley's videos to help me pass my Masters with Distinction exam. So I would not be surprised if Ashley ended up educating the IAM Observer on safe driving tips!
@@R04drunner1 congrats on your Masters! I passed my RoSPA Advanced driving test with a Silver, I was trained by a tutor but also watched many driving related TH-cam channels, including Ashley's, all the videos really helped. I'd only learned to drive a year ago too! :)
@@Glaiceana thanks that's very kind. Yours was a brilliant result, well done. Keep that positive approach and you will go far - and safely - as a good driver!
The clip at 6:45 is common where I am at one particular junction which is why, if a car is waiting to pull out or turn in I an going slower than the speed limit (~23 mph for my junction which is in a 30) and for the one above I would be slowing to around 33 mph to get extra time and also when the inevitable happens it is a case of slowing then continuing not a full emergency stop. Keeps things safe (reduces risk of rear end) and keeps things flowing 👍
At 4:20 when presented with 4 windows, it really would help to tell us IN WORDS which window to look at - particularly when the action changes from window to window. No doubt you've seen each video multiple times, but it's the first time for us.
On the horn use - it can depend on what's behind the camera. No, I don't mean the driver, I mean the roadway. I habitually use the horn if I have to perform an emergency brake maneuver and there is someone behind me - not to school the fool who caused me to have to brake suddenly, but rather, to make damned sure that the person behind me is alerted to the fact that something weird is going on up ahead, because they aren't always paying attention.
On most cars the horn is mounted at the front and faces forward. How likely is it to be heard by vehicles behind?
8:11 that's common for that area... sadly see it all the time at becontree
The onus is on the government for driving test examiners to allow candidates to make up to 15 SERIOUS mistakes and still get a pass.
That's not correct. 1 serious is a fail
9:28 Honestly, that clip, I actually said "Jesus..." out loud, through gritted teeth. That was *crzy.*
@0:37 You can understand the mistake if you are not local and didn't know Skipton was second exit. Road markings say you can turn right from the middle lane when you in fact can't.
Poor road markings really. Lane one should have left arrow for first exit, lane 2 straight on for second exit !and lane 3 straight on (Skipton) and right (Bradford).
Spiral type roundabouts don’t work like that 👍
@@ashley_neal Which if fine when the number of exits and lane are different, but in this case there are exactly the same amount. So the approach can be labeled as I suggest and the on roundabout markings can be left unchanged.
The current form just adds unnecessary risk like shown. The other alternative was for the Vauxhall to stop on the roundabout to try and change lanes blocking the traffic flow. Which all could be solved with a tin of paint.
@@ashley_neal i dont get it. You are blaming the blue vauxhall for being in wrong lane but how the cammer is right when is he crossing to the left from the lane showing go straight or right only
poor road markings indeed no wonder they let them faded
5:20 But after the lorry, shouldn’t the car waiting to turn right just creep forward a bit to try and allow other cars past on his left for best flow? It can’t have been intentional that if anyone wants to turn right at this junction then it’s one car per traffic light cycle?
'Do other road users need telling they've done something wrong, even after the event?'
Well you seem to think so, as you demonstrated 30 seconds into your 'me me me' video last year 👍
5:48 that is truly terrifying, being in the back of a queue like that is one of the scariest places to be for that very reason, you should leave a big enough gap to give you an escape route where possible if the person coming up behind looks like they may not stop, that van driver is so lucky there was a gap in the next lane.
4:55 I treat _all_ oncoming cyclists as hazards - not because of their cycling, but because of overtaking idiots in cars like this who seem unable to use their brakes.
Being generous I could be argued that the horn is warning any following vehicles (being very generous). Also, perception and response times means a decision to use the horn is at the moment of perception and then response means although the dirver has committed to using it by the time they do it feels late and hence appears to be used to admonish the other driver.
Overtaking at corners and junctions is so incredibly stupid it boggles the mind that people actually do it.
some years back there was a fatal crash in my town where the driver of a car leaned across to grab something out of the footwell, and drifted into the guardrail. the driver and the other two of his passengers survived with severe injuries. the people in the car he bounced into were also severely hurt/
With reference to the "drivers" that make mistakes; an old 🎥 quote (Goldfinger) springs to mind.......
Once is happenstance;
Twice is coincidence;
Three times is emnity action.
Stay safe out there.
Loved the reference to Mat Armstrong in the Car Vertical ad... bravo well done good sir!
I love Mat’s videos. Totally hooked on his current builds. Which is your favourite?
@@ashley_neal Hey Ash nice to hear from you. The Merci build has been impressive and loved the detail with rebuilding the engine. The C63 floats my boat what with the remap and performance exhaust... that sounds amazing 🤌🤌🤌 What's your favourite?
2:18 I'm sure he mounted the kerb, which is a fail on the test.
0:38 since they put the traffic lights in, people have been getting into the wrong lane so many times at that roundabout. It’s arguably made it worse to navigate with there being so many lanes now
5:50 You can tell straight away that van is overloaded, so the braking distance will be increased. With the HGV in front, that car was very close to getting crushed.
0:56, in defence of the Blue car, the arrow points right. 1:23, horn not needed. Want to check history, check the MOT history if the car is less than 3 years old. 3? adverts in this clip?
According to the highway code, no, other road users shouldn't be told by use of horn that they have done something wrong. But you asked if they should be, and I say hell, yes.
1:25 There should be penalties enforced for misuse of the horn. Due to its constant misuse, people think it is an instrument of aggression rather than warning.
A few days ago I had a similar experience to the cyclist towards the end of the video. I reached a heavily potholed section of road, checked behind me, signalled right, pulled into the middle of the road for about 10 seconds. The alternatives were falling off my bike or coming to a dead stop. The driver behind, who had had plenty of warning, drove uncomfortably close with her horn pressed down before overtaking on a bend. I think some cyclists overuse primary position but this war that seems to be fuelled by the self righteous Cycling Mikey types on one side and the motorists who can think only of their own progress on the other helps no one.
You are so right with this comment. I am a cyclist as well as a motorist and I can vouch both ways
1:22 I think this is an appropriate use of the horn, even if it is a little long. Some drivers just don't think that what they've done is wrong, they may not even notice that they caused an oncoming vehicle to perform an avoidance manoeuvre if this is something they do regularly. A horn in this situation isn't so much a telling off, but notifying that the overtaking driver did something dangerous enough to perform "evasive action". Hopefully with enough people beeping at them after doing something stupid like that overtake, they'll put 2+2 together and realise that it's dangerous. HOWEVER there is a potential consequence; the driver may just perform an extremely close pass on the cyclist to avoid going into the oncoming lane. That's even worse.
Thanks for the info on roundabout lanes, I never knew about this.
I toot my horn couple of short ones, I think sometimes it wakes people up makes them concentrate a bit more, especially pedestrians on phone crossing road, do belive it could safe lives. Toot at a junction when someone waiting a while to get out and has gone in a trance is better than just flashing, it's there to aid driving not for reprimands. But that's just me.
Wow Ashley, some shockers there!
At 1:22 after ensuring I was slowing and/or stopping safely to avoid a collision (the priority), I would probably have sounded my horn too. (1) To warn anybody tempted to follow (2) To alert the offending driver to their mistake so they don't do it again. But I accept it's not proper Highway Code driving, which regards use of the horn only for warning other road users of your presence when moving, or to avert danger (when stationary). The horn was not being used aggressively, so does not directly contravene the Highway Code. I notice the same thing happened at 06:50. The use of the horn must be balanced with the risk that (a) another road user may interpret it as aggressive and over-react (b) it may be a distraction to other road users. I know when I was a Learner Driver, I assumed every use of the horn was aimed at me. It was not always the case!
At 05:49, good job to the cammer who held back and gave the white van room to swerve.
At 06:50, I recognise that junction! It's at the top of the North Road in Carrickfergus. I think I submitted a video to Ashely on 29 April which included that junction, but I haven't seen any of mine on channel yet. (I live in hope!) It is a notorious spot for accidents, but sadly a campaign to have traffic lights at the junction has never got the traction needed. And, yes, even for those without that local knowledge, there was an advanced clue that the van driver was about to do that. The way the van progressed forward as the car in front turned off, with no slowing, was a big clue. When I come to that junction, I ease off the gas, keep a foot ready to pounce on the brake pedal and my thumb ready to sound the horn to warn other road users about to emerge into me!
at 01:19 this is common in zhejiang in china. crashes every day because people are impatient
2:40 really like how the dashcammer picked up after the emerge and held back giving them more space. Driver in front has no respect for others.
About ringing the police if it’s not safe to stop and you don’t have hands free it is legal to use a handheld phone to ring the police when driving
Ashley, we have what we call speed-roundabouts over here in the Netherlands.
Over here in the city i live in, 's-Hertogenbosch, we have one very nice example.
It is at the junction of the Bruistensingel and the Empelseweg.
(tried a link but seems TH-cam doesn't allow that. Not even a googlemaps link.)
This roundabout makes life much easier.
People have to choose the correct lane in order to end up taking the correct exit.
You cant switch lanes on the roundabout, unless you want to hop over a barrier that probably will damage your vehicle if you try it.
When you approach this roundabout, you can easily see if you can keep going or need to stop or what have you.
The only downside to this roundabout is that they changed the entire layout or the surroundings. The channel was dug a few years ago, it used to go through city center but they decided to alter the route a bit to lessen the congestion of the center of the city.
And that worked.
BUT they had to bridge over the channel, and connect it to the highway on the other side.
And that results in a very steep bridge.
When you try to go up it in a fully loaded truck, it will go very very slow.
Anyways, that is off topic entirely.
But have a look at that roundabout (if the link functions, that is). I haven't seen any of em in Britain on your videos, or anywhere else.
And i think, personally, that this is one of the best roundabouts we have in our country.
I could give another example: Keizer Karelplein in Nijmegen.
You only have to type in Keizer Karelplein into google, hit enter, and you will see the most horrible roundabout there is.
Hi Ashley, since you ask I will answer your first question, in my opinion there was no other reason than to express irritation, the proper use of the horn is to offer a warning to another road user while there is a chance they an alter their behaviour after hearing your horn, when the whole thing has happened and is basically over there is no good reason for hooting.
This compilation is of course a series of episodes of bad driving none of them can fairly be described as un-intended and put together two things are clear, one that such bad driving is far too common and he second is that most times the potential crash does not happen, high risk indeed but not such high danger.
Cheers, Richard.
I think the horn in the second clip was appropriate, it was initiated as people were still violating right of way, and still in the process of nearly causing an accident, especially for the second car. To me it says "I'm here, don't hit me". They hit the horn at the same time they hit the brakes to avoid a collision. Had your viewer not reacted, that would have been a collision. Some people are truly oblivious. If that wasn't a time to use the horn to avoid a collision, I dunno what would be.
If I beeped everytime an oncoming vehicle overtook a cyclist as I was passing it on the other side then my car would need a horn replacement at every MOT check!
5:38 - is that your viewer cutting the clip short before they creep into that cycle stop space? 😏
5:57 - I don't think some people understand that they are operating machinery that could kill someone. That's worse than phone driving (which is in itself terrible).
8:14 - never even thought to ask themselves why the car in front had stopped. It's terrifying that people like this are on the road
The one swerving earlier no doubt dropped his mobile phone and was reaching down to get it.
Does no one use their brakes? cause the horn is not going to stop you.
7:40 this is in France and it happens more often than not. that car looks like the car that crashed into a french police van earlier this week killing the 3 officers.
8:26 That road has already been reduced to 50mph and is an 'accident reduction scheme' road. It's quite long stretch of road but with various junctions, villages etc so I can see why it's a 50mph road.
few weeks ago, 3 hour drive went through two towns with a limit of 50mph. one what amazed me was 40 limit wide open A road trucking road but just before town the limit went to 50mph and stayed. odd feeling doing 50 through a town but that way back way there i slowed to 40 as more people and traffic so more dangers but way back quite straight through both at 50mph. its not about safety what i can see it just a cash cow as 60 between towns but 30-40 in towns but what i seen its backwards. see that more than you expect to limit goes up for a town from a big wide safe trucking road where no ones walking to a town with dangers limit goes up
most of these clips are a great example of the mentality of must get infront, when in fact this gets you pretty much no where on the roads today apart from possibly getting to your destination two seconds quicker or actually never!
8:47 - your viewer MASSIVELY in the wrong for flooring to beat the amber/red light.
It's selfishness like that, that leaves right turners stranded in the middle of the junction.
I think at 1:23, while the cammer definitely was making use of the horn as a telling off, I think it was also still very necessary. The blue Vauxhall (the last car to stay behind the cyclist) could have done the exact same as the car in front, carelessly overtaking the cyclist with the moral of "if the car in front can manage it, so can I". The use of the horn here could have very well slowed the Blue Vauxhall down and warned him in due time. A long shot maybe but definitely plausible in my opinion!
8:10 was a shocker almost ran the pedestrian over 😱 followed by the Ford almost hitting the cyclist at 9:24
0:06 The bloke has just had a carvery at The Angel in Morley, probably still digesting his lunch, give him a break!
1:25 honestly, I wish I could say no, but most people simply will not care when they've done something like that until it's in their face. Obviously it's best not to lay on the horn if there's a child or a dog nearby that could become easily startled though
5:45 van driver was probably on his mobile. Geez, I saw some vids from my part of the world where some guy was watching a video on his phone while driving, and the guy was on a provisional license...
8:11 I'm floored...
8:21 Probably stolen?
The clip at 07:00 is actually at a junction but the same applies, people often only look to the right hand side. The junction joins a dual carriageway which is in a 30mph zone.
Also a note, both vans are actually taking up two lanes
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I had a sort of similar experience to the zebra crossing clip recently. I saw an ambulance with flashing lights in my mirror so I indicated, slowed down and moved to the left. The car behind me overtook me going right into the path of the ambulance which had to break. He'd obviously decided to overtake me without even looking in his mirror. I know he didn't do it on purpose because a few metres later he pulled over to let the ambulance past. Better late than never.
People always focus on “must get in front” rather than work out why people are pulling over.
I had one years ago almost hit an ambulance wheb I stopped one side, the vehicles the other side stopped and the one behind me thought they would go through forcing an ambulance into an emergency stop
I have had one similar where it was the other way round and the ambulance was coming towards but the car behind overtook and even had the cheek to stop in front of the ambulance and force traffic on the other carriageway to move so the ambulance could get past. I wish a had the dashcam for that one but I really hope the ambulance had one and the driver reported
emergency services drivers will see that multiple times on a single run. the other bad hazard is when two emergency services vehicles are traveling in convoy, people will pull to the side for one to pass and then emerge without looking directly into the side of the second.
@@kenbrown2808 One of the things I've learnt here is that ESVs often travel in pairs or more. Recently saw no less than five police cars, each about 30 seconds apart turning out for what must have been a cracking punch up. Not far behind was an ambulance. Some drivers didn't deal with that very well at all.
@PedroConejo1939 in germany, fire response often runs in convoy. In my town, ambulance and fire are sometimes coming from the same fire station, but usually they are converging from different directions.
1:23 it depends. If I just have to get off the gas pedal and break slightly, no, I wouldn’t use the horn. If they do such a horrible overtake that I need to slam the breaks then yes, I’ll gladly use the horn
1:00…. Many years ago when roundabouts had lanes but no road arrows there was exactly this problem when timid drivers would be too afraid pull across to the right lane when turning right at a roundabout. ….. I guess these arrows painted on the road nowadays really solved that issue then 🤔… or maybe not.
The (1st) cycle rider is too close to the kerb edge, ride primarily until it is safe to go secondary position. Riding like this can indicate to car drivers that it's okay to overtake when it is clearly not safe to do so. Cycle riders should keep at least 0.5m (approx 1.5 feet) away from the kerb edge and further where it is safer when riding on busy roads with faster-moving vehicles, this is the distance from the rider and kerb, not the wheels and kerb.
6:45 im not too far from that road, your be surprised how often it happens, theres a dump round there, not to mention schools just on down that road, its desperate for people speeding round there
1:05 welcome to Bradford. Where no one knows how indicators or roundabouts work
I believe use of the horn is only for stress relief. If someone honks at me for driving carefully when I've spotted a potential hazard, or if I honk at someone for using a turn lane to pass through an intersection, in either case it will be ignored.
In response to your punitive honking to bad behaviour inquiry I feel differently about it. I've never seen it as punishment but more as calling out bad behaviour, as I've mentioned before I'm Canadian and in North America as you may have noticed we have a more relaxed enforcement and education (in comparison) and entitled culture with drivers behaving as though they can do as they like. I see it as drivers knowing what they're doing as theoretically wrong and incorrect but without anyone calling them out they assume it's ok to do certain things are definitely not and unsafe and illegal
Those reckless drivers, they'll get away with it once, or maybe a hundred times. When it goes bad. It'll be really bad
And they'll blame someone else.
The lane markings in the roundabout at the beginning totally confused me as a German driver, but maybe the conventions are different in the UK in roundabouts? The lane markings say "straight arrow" which normally means "follow the current lane". The lane of the blue car continues inside the roundabout. So from what I'm used to (from German lane markings) I would think those lane markings are saying the blue car is not allowed to turn left to exit - which makes no sense, so I assume the conventions are different in the UK, and different in a somewhat misleading way.
Yea, as a Dutchy, that is some horrific roundabout design and confusing road marking.
Nearly always the same story, the impatient drivers who are in a hurry often take silly risks to get no further ahead, then the slower patient driver who takes time to assess the road ahead and helping to increase flow for everyone makes the same (or better) progress than the impatient driver.
8:30 silly me... I was looking for a van all the time. 😄
I'm ambivalent about beeping people - if they aren't told then how will they know but do they even know?😅
8:01
I consider myself a professional professional driver! If I cannot safely overtake a cyclist, I’ll plod along behind hanging back until I Can safely overtake; i.e. I can see clear to do so and no junctions coming up that can cause an issue!
If you’re stuck behind a slow moving truck, be patient, they can see way more than you, and if you dash for it, they may pull out on you having checked their mirrors just before You go for it! You Will lose the initial argument (your car will be damaged, not their car which is back at the depot), and more & more hauliers ate using multiple cameras; if the driver did check & you went for it just after, driver’s covered tbh
Clip two, good save by your viewer on the roundabout good save.
Thank you, it was me driving my van. Something just didn't feel right when I saw the blue car in my left hand mirror but it scared the hell out of me when he continued to carry on round instead of peeling left where he should have gone.
Blue car driver is maybe not from the area. I'm in Canada and we don't have many roundabouts and nothing anywhere near this complex. What I don't understand is it just says Skipton straight ahead but nothing tells you when the exit appears other than the green sign. I've driven there a few times but I found this confusing. Wondering if you can explain since the markings say Skipton straight ahead I would think to do just that, go straight ahead as blue car did.
Yes, may not have been local (hence I didn't react in any way, no horn, shouting, etc.) and we all mistakes. What's happened here is the blue car 'missed' the exit he should have taken for his approach lane and is actually proceeding right round the roundabout now, crossing in front of me who was heading for lane 2 of the straight ahead Skipton exit (as per my approach lane). As a general rule, if you want to right at a roundabout you head for the right hand lane. Straight on and left is usually the left hand approach lane. Of course signs and road markings will indicate such as in this case when the blue car starts in the Skipton lane but exits for Bradford, crossing the Skipton exit in doing so.
@Mike Fergus right that does make sense and I get the logic. It is definitely a fairly confusing layout
@@fergy1ful those road markings are messed up. You completely ignore the fact that you turned left from the lane where the road marking is showing go straight or to the right only . Gladly you are local thus you anticipated correctly other's car movement. Correct marking would be that RHS lane would point out to the Bradford direction only and middle lane to Skipton. You can see correct markings before entering the roundabout
Had a lovely example yesterday but sadly no footage as I'm in the market for a new dash camera and I need to be a little tight with my money. Nothing spectacular happened, Just a foreign camper van sailing right on out into the roundabout I was already on. Saw them coming a mile away though so was able to adjust my speed accordingly. Said van was coming off the Dornoch Firth on to the bypass that passes the town I was heading to.
Always best to make these kind of incidents a non-issue on the road when possible.
How do I upload to this TH-cam site
On using the horn for a poor overtake of a cyclist: while I understand why you would want to use your horn, as a cyclist, you're already frightened and distracted by having to deal with a poor overtake, adding a horn blast into the mix can cause a sudden shock and be the thing that causes the accident. Please don't use your horn like that.