Introduction of the Rover SD1

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  • Introduction of the Rover SD1.

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  • @markbennett2170
    @markbennett2170 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Never forget seeing the Rover SD1 press car drive pass my school in June 1976. I was 11 years old and I was totally captivated !!!! Love this car!!!

    • @TheHorsebox2
      @TheHorsebox2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes, it was very impressive when launched.

    • @vinimaguire8109
      @vinimaguire8109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was born the same year as you mate...Sept 1965. I too remember seeing my first SD1 ..the first ones all seemed to be in that yellow mustard colour. They certainly were different although I would have chose a Ford Granada Ghia over em all day long .

  • @stephenspence295
    @stephenspence295 5 ปีที่แล้ว +156

    What a smart dapper chap Raymond Baxter was.I very much miss his style of
    presenting, informative , sensible , old school.

    • @richardrichard5409
      @richardrichard5409 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Ex ww2 Spitfire pilot.

    • @beaufighter245
      @beaufighter245 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Totally agree. When car programmes were about cars and not a comedy vehicle for three Muppets.

    • @eightosaurusspelunk1598
      @eightosaurusspelunk1598 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He speaks perfectly. Very clear and paced.

    • @domformula1
      @domformula1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      beaufighter245 well said sir! Couldn’t agree more and I’m continually surprised that people continue to pay to watch that worn-out cliche of a show - even in its new guise!

    • @ThirdDegreeWitchExplores
      @ThirdDegreeWitchExplores 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      i believe he was a Spitfire pilot during the war , so a top bloke

  • @justinneill5003
    @justinneill5003 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Little did anyone know, under that sleek beautiful design, performance and comfort, what shoddy quality and workmanship went into the bodywork and paint finish. In retrospect, Raymond was far better off with that beautiful P6.

    • @ba55man1000
      @ba55man1000 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I worked in the Solihull paint shop on the sd1 between 78 and it's closure in 82 , we could only use the materials given to us by designers and suppliers ,any fault in electrocoat and or paint type wasn't down to poor workmanship.

    • @justinneill5003
      @justinneill5003 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ba55man1000 I can well imagine that the management skimped on quality of materials so I’ll stand corrected if it wasn’t down to actual workmanship. But what about other issues like the famous leaking gaps between door edge and pillar?

    • @callum4035
      @callum4035 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@ba55man1000 it was down to all you bl line workers putting the cars together, they where poorly put together and would fall apart because you where all on your strikes and would just throw the cars together FULL STOP

    • @ohgosh5892
      @ohgosh5892 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@callum4035 Hi tory! Your brexit is as catastrophic as your knowledge of BL is miniscule.

    • @bobcprimus
      @bobcprimus ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had an SD1and the rear passenger side door would open when going round right hand bends, hands down the worst car I've ever owned, I wish I had bought a P6 instead.

  • @reconforsales7708
    @reconforsales7708 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Rover SD1, the most beautiful car ever made!

  • @LostsTVandRadio
    @LostsTVandRadio ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In the 70s we had been eagerly awaiting the new 3500 for what seemed like ages. Finally, in 1976, I was walking to school one morning and there it was in the window of the Rover showroom - the SD1 - but still under wraps. The shape was astonishing, and I couldn't wait for the big reveal which happened a few days later. My schoolfriends and I were awestruck by the beautiful futuristic design. Compared with the boring boxy cars of the time it looked like something from outer space. At that moment I knew that when I came of age I would have to have one!

  • @alistairshaw3206
    @alistairshaw3206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I owned various SD1 Rover's, 2000,2300,2600,3500, series one and two.
    I was the Scotland rep for the SD1 club.
    No, they weren't perfect, was any car of that era perfect?
    I could list many faults, the 2litre was underpowered, without power steering they were heavy and the wheel had to be turned too far.
    The oil feed to the cam on the six cylinder cars could block up with serious consequences, that was caused by infrequent oil changes, 12000 miles was recommended in the handbook. With 70's oil, no wonder they got a bad name!
    Get a good V8, do some subtle improvements, you have a car which is comfortable, fast, a dream to drive, and a practical family car.
    I drove, maintained and knew them inside out, not perfect, but my favourite all time car.
    Someone has to stick up for them!
    Check out the prices for them now, if they were so bad why the high prices?

    • @philnewstead5388
      @philnewstead5388 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      xavier colin A truly awful car. Produced to compete in Europe with Mercedes in particular the torque and power curves were all wrong, it was noisy and terrible to drive.

  • @mael-strom9707
    @mael-strom9707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I owned a late series SD1 imported to Australia ...first thing I did was change all Lucas electricals where possible to Bosch. That with regular servicing and keeping it away from "Rover" specialists made it a very reliable and fun car to own.

    • @richaw11
      @richaw11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Also no rust either I imagine.

    • @mael-strom9707
      @mael-strom9707 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@richaw11 Always garaged and dry climate has its advantages.

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’ll ask what everyone else asks. Was it the V8?😂

    • @mael-strom9707
      @mael-strom9707 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@matty6848 Indeed... Jolly good. 😋😅

    • @retroybd2780
      @retroybd2780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What trim model was it? Was it a Vanden Plas or a Vitesse?

  • @TheAngmarwitch
    @TheAngmarwitch 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Raymond Baxter, the voice of my childhood, Tomorrows world. Never bettered :)

    • @CoastHobbit9340
      @CoastHobbit9340 ปีที่แล้ว

      A real old-school gent at the wheel. Driving gloves and probably a cravat on Bank Holiday weekends too! Look how carefully he closes the door of the P5 in the opening scene! (An early SD1 door might well have fallen off!)

  • @williamkennedy5492
    @williamkennedy5492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    It was good to see Raymond Baxter again no one today is anywhere near his standard of presentation, as for the subject My father brought a brand new Rover 2000 in 1983, my heart sank when i saw it as by that time you could see rust buckets of SD1s being driven around.Two days old and the engine wouldn't start ,dad was stranded in the middle of penzance high street , at three months the car locked him inside, eventually he swapped it for my Ford Granada Mk3 Ghia and i took the Rover over, the local rover dealer in Penzance had wired the lights into the panel lights bang went the fuse i found that out as i drove back to Dunstable on the M5, the car was such a bad starter i come from a mechanical back ground and never cured the problem even changing the auto choke for a manual one ,neither did our MT section none of us could find out what was wrong, it got to the stage where i considered putting in a 2liter ford engine and four speed auto box, , The build quality was appalling for example the drivers door had a gap where it closed with the door pillar , it was so large i could put my fingers through it ! I should add here why it lasted as long as it did was me rust proofing the car.
    In the end it sat on my Drive for years, still looking good, eventually i scrapped it, i did feel a pang of guilt as by then my father had died, It was a great looking car let down by its build quality and why no diesel until the end of production ? the 2000 engine was ok when it eventually started smooth and reasonably nippy.
    i live in Thailand, BUT somehow the interior mirror from that old Rover made it here too, i cannot explain that as the last time i saw it, the mirror was in my garage. it sits on the fireplace in my study, So it lives on in my memory a great car but let down by its build quality, sorry its been a long post but the memory does linger.
    As for Baxter i liked his story as they powered along in his spitfire over France , suddendly a V2 rose in front of his wingman who fired a burst at the V2 Baxter later said he was so glad his wingman was such a bad shot and missed otherwise both of them would have gone up in the resulting fireball .Theres a place just outside Leek in staffordshire overlookig the lake that rebuilds and sells the previous model of rover now that was and is a real classic !

    • @grahamjohnson4002
      @grahamjohnson4002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So nice that that mirror from your Rover lives on. I'm in Cornwall and I'm Mousehole there's still a Rover liveried garage there. Selling a couple of used cars I believe. All the best

    • @MagicAyrtonforever
      @MagicAyrtonforever ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hahaah lol

  • @Santor-
    @Santor- ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Loved the SD1. First ride was in a later Vitesse Vanden plas top of the line, looked good from every angle, lots of power and fun. Was only a kid then, but remember thinking "THIS is how all cars should been."

  • @TeamCGS2005
    @TeamCGS2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I remember this car as a kid growing up in Cornwall and this was a very powerful machine. Even gave my dad's Ford Granada Ghia 2.8l a run for its money.

    • @liverpoolscottish6430
      @liverpoolscottish6430 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The V8 would spank the 2.8i Granada- especially on top speed.

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    In 1977 my Dad picked me up from school in the new SD1 it was metallic silver, and looked absolutely fantastic...previously he had BMW...my school friends and the Fathers were so impressed...on the way home the power steering failed...the following week the door trim came away on shutting....then the central locking failed...over twelve months I think at least four were spent at main dealer...we got to drive a vast selection of BL cars...the following year he changed car to a Ford Granada Ghia which ran without fault for 50.000 miles....he then ventured back to Rover SD1 it broke down on the way home....great car in terms of design...absolutely dismal build quality...great shame

    • @bluegtturbo
      @bluegtturbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Your Dad could have bought a Toyota Crown and it wouldn't have missed a beat until it rusted into oblivion

    • @robbiecox
      @robbiecox 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He bought a good one! They were complete crap.

    • @2DogsVlogs
      @2DogsVlogs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@bluegtturbo I just got rid of my 1971 Crown in November. It was too rusty to keep. Back in '77 we had a Ford Galaxy, from the American Embassy. It was cheap and dad treated it rough. My parents got rid of it as it was expensive on fuel and hard to park. Imagine parking a bus at Tesco.

    • @Arltratlo
      @Arltratlo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      there was a reason my parents bought a VW Passat in 1977 and a 2nd in 1979, same brown interior color but they drove over 12 to 15 years in my family

    • @ttbdrummer
      @ttbdrummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And.

  • @sasikumarsasikumar1984
    @sasikumarsasikumar1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love this car from my childhood. I miss this car too much

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There are still some about but mainly enthusiasts who park them indoors and never drive them, which is a crying shame😩

  • @stephensimpson4022
    @stephensimpson4022 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My dad has one slowly rotting away in his garage, in the 30 years he’s owned it,virtually every part has been replaced. Hence the reason why it’s nickname is Triggers Broom!

  • @oldmoley1599
    @oldmoley1599 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My Dad was a main dealer, and I had the privilege of test-driving a pre-launch car three weeks before its release. I was 20 at the time, and can still remember the stares from passers-by. A revelation to most people!

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton2724 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Raymond Baxter, ex spitfire pilot and F1 commentator, great style. The British Aristocracy of Broadcasting. Why have we not got presenters like him anymore?

    • @bobtudbury8505
      @bobtudbury8505 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      because the rejected type do not follow the narrative

    • @donaldasayers
      @donaldasayers ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because the modern youtube inspired presenter is young, loud and starts with Wazzup?

    • @ReferenceFidelityComponents
      @ReferenceFidelityComponents ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Diversity and multicrassism

    • @hunterluxton5976
      @hunterluxton5976 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because people find that stuffy public school way of speaking too elitist. We also live in a society that's not so bigoted towards people who have not had life on a silver plate. I bet this guy simply opened his plumb filled mouth and they threw the contract at him.

    • @markbryant5762
      @markbryant5762 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hunterluxton5976 Opps. Is that your ignorance showing there? He earned a place in Grammar school was expelled for smoking. Never went to college. Flew Spitfires in the war . Not quite the chinless upperclass wastrel you believe.

  • @willardr100
    @willardr100 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's the twin speakers to the push button radio for me. But I did own a cranky 1981 SD1 V8 VP in 1992 (ish) and it was very nice. Problematic but very nice. My enduring memory was one of hapless ventilation, alarming gearbox shunt (hard to describe) and the sheer sense of occasion from the leather and V8 burble. No regrets.

  • @dungareesareforfools
    @dungareesareforfools 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    That design has aged so well.

    • @MichaelOKeefe2009
      @MichaelOKeefe2009 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Except for BL's world famous LEMON tier unreliability and quality.

    • @travelwithtony5767
      @travelwithtony5767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The only ones that still survive are in museums because they were absolute shyte.

  • @billtuckwell1399
    @billtuckwell1399 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I had two of them 2600’s. Great car, with an excellent steering lock. As good steering as a FX4 taxi. Very enjoyable to drive.

  • @scousepie2
    @scousepie2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember my first ride in the SD1.. it reminded me of a plain;s cockpit.. Great car or the engine was !!

  • @robertlewis9401
    @robertlewis9401 5 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    When our car industry existed . They didn’t realise what they had until it was gone.

    • @moochincrawdad
      @moochincrawdad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The flip side of this is that DID realise what they had - they just though they'd never lose it.

    • @GrahamReid34
      @GrahamReid34 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Usual unions, killed the car industry

    • @KillianoC
      @KillianoC ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GrahamReid34 it wasn’t the unions that killed it I’m afraid

    • @gbooth9856
      @gbooth9856 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Poor build quality and cheap imports from Japan killed it off

    • @foxxster3565
      @foxxster3565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KillianoC they played a very significant part in the demise of the vehicle industry in the UK. Look up the strikes of the 1970s for starters. Then compare the productivity of a uk vehicle worker versus Japanese or German. Then look at the crap quality they were responsible for.

  • @johnmunro4952
    @johnmunro4952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Lovely line up of competitors at the beginning, but the SD1 looked like a starship in comparison.

    • @bensmithkent22
      @bensmithkent22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What on earth did renault have at the time in that segment?

    • @gotham61
      @gotham61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bensmithkent22 R30

    • @gotham61
      @gotham61 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Except that three of the cars shown were older models that had already been replaced at the time of the filming. The Audi 100 C1 was replaced by the C2, and Mercedes W114 was replaced by the W123, both a year earlier than this film in 1976. And the Ford Granada Mk1 was replaced by the Mk2 right around that time.

    • @robtyman4281
      @robtyman4281 ปีที่แล้ว

      A pity it didn't perform like one. It was designed to resemble a Citroen - a British equivalent to the Citroen CX.....except the CX was better built, more fun to drive.....and had pneumatic suspension. In hindsight, the SD1 was the beginning of the end for Rover. It couldn't really compete with BMW or Mercedes on any front. It looked great, but that was all it had going for it.

  • @michaelf.h8507
    @michaelf.h8507 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I used one as a company car ..it was great and trouble free ..was sad to lose it after 9 months ...I worked for Leyland International ..I did have a later car with chrome around the headlamps..

    • @seankirby2580
      @seankirby2580 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You worked for BL. Biased, or what?

  • @Dan_druft
    @Dan_druft 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    The sporty saloon has always been a bird catcher lol Wouldn't get away with that now

    • @bensmithkent22
      @bensmithkent22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sporting looking car* but yes was a highlight. Didnt even say attracts the ladies but used a more Terry McCann form of language. Bird 🤣🤣. Some gems in here the dig at the railways at the start and later what qualifies a country that demands sophisticated looking motoring? The most priceless looking back though has to be the Rover hallmark of quality. A name associated with precision engineering.

  • @derekwhyle1884
    @derekwhyle1884 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This car neatly sums up our country. We really do need to stop kidding ourselves, accept where we are in the world rankings and put some work in to build a future for our children.

  • @brunster64
    @brunster64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had a 3500 Vanden Plas and it even had plush carpet under the spare wheel. Lovely cream leather and burr walnut everywhere - was however a rust bucket and spent more time broken down at the side of the road than on it.
    I forgave all of its faults due to that lovely V8 which I had tuned - sounded at tick over like an American muscle car - absolutely loved it

    • @michaelbamber4887
      @michaelbamber4887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Always like the looks but very big shame it had the "rover quality " shining through.

    • @noelsalisbury7448
      @noelsalisbury7448 ปีที่แล้ว

      It WAS the same engine from an 'American Muscle Car' - a Buick

  • @deboerkanna1
    @deboerkanna1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jolly good! The bonnet light is a must have...lovely video, thx so much for uploading.

  • @lazycalm41
    @lazycalm41 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As much as I liked the SD1 especially the later models I would much rather have that gorgeous P6 V8 S Raymond is driving at the beginning any day!

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes the P6 was much better engineered, over engineered if anything. Personally I preferred the SD1, but rack to their own I suppose.

    • @lazycalm41
      @lazycalm41 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matty6848 I agree, thats not to say id pass up a decent SD1 Vitesse...yes please!

    • @stevedickson5853
      @stevedickson5853 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ..you'd have thought he'd have had that dent banged out of the near side wing

  • @connclissmann6514
    @connclissmann6514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm impressed that they got down the road while filming, without bits falling off. If only the owners had had similar reliability, it might have sold. (One can only smile at the comparison with Mercedes, BMW, etc.)

  • @evo5dave
    @evo5dave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Loved these cars. What a pity British Leyland was imploding at the time.

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      River never recovered from the strikes in the 1970s. I worked there from 94 until 2000 and it was the same then. The Unions & management we’re constantly at loggerheads with each other, it’s was a battle ground, with the workforce in the middle scared stiff to say anything to either side. There’s a good documentary on TH-cam called “ Rover, the Long GoodBye” i Recommend you watch it👍

    • @abc33944
      @abc33944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So much for unions and management .... where are they now ... all’s lost

  • @clarkgriswold5903
    @clarkgriswold5903 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I once owned a 1980 Triumph TR8 5speed, air, Holly 4 barrel, convertible with the same motor as the SD1, what a blast it was to drive!

  • @andyt8216
    @andyt8216 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My dad had one and it looked so futuristic. An every day car wow, which for me was not to be repeated until the Coupe Fiat in 1993.

  • @121zoso
    @121zoso 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It has to be said that even in 2021, that looks a stylish car !! Way ahead of its time.

    • @chucky2316
      @chucky2316 ปีที่แล้ว

      The rover 800 fast back was a much better looking car i.m.o and I do love these sd1's it seems they were just living on the glory of the p5b and the 69s p6's.

    • @JohnSmith-ei2pz
      @JohnSmith-ei2pz ปีที่แล้ว

      A bucket of shyte has a greater presence!

  • @henryperity9412
    @henryperity9412 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Thanks for a great video
    V8 auto was magic
    Great towing car
    Had 6 over 20 years towing across Europe
    to northern Italy.
    Enjoyed every mile in our V8 SD1's
    They all had amazing econmy compared to our Granada's Volvo's and a Audi .
    Never understood why the British were so negative about a great car ?

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was the rust problems on the early models but by 1982/83 the lated models were made with a far superior metal & paint, which got rid of the bad rusting. Apparently within 6 months the early models were getting paint bubbles and rust!

    • @markfox1545
      @markfox1545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I've never understood why people put apostrophes in plurals. Life is just full of mysteries, I guess. 🤷‍♂️

  • @colind9638
    @colind9638 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely fantastic film, thanks for posting👍🏻

  • @civicdriving
    @civicdriving 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, I haven’t previously seen the first 20mins before, thanks for sharing.

  • @vanderark89
    @vanderark89 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is a great looking car. I remember seeing so many in the 80s wishing my folks would get one!

  • @richsan4923
    @richsan4923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now i finally know where Martin, Medeski and Wood got their sound from!

  • @TheClockwise770
    @TheClockwise770 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Raymond Baxter at his best and a P6 owner of considerable years.
    Wonderful film but give me a P6 any day over the SD1.
    Thanks for sharing this great review

  • @gribovod1
    @gribovod1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Я очень горжусь,что владею таким авто-лем.Хоть его еще и реставрировать.

  • @danielmarshall4587
    @danielmarshall4587 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goodness me what a lovely presentation, I could happily listen to Mr Baxter telling me about a pile of DOG-MUCK....... oh???

  • @dzava
    @dzava 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    18:42 - you can clearly see her face expression says "Why the f**k you had to buy this brittish sh*t when our country produces Mercedes and BMW??"
    Although, frankly. this design of interior (after facelift) and exterior is one of the most beautiful I have ever seen...

  • @cesargarciamartin3987
    @cesargarciamartin3987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rover siempre elegante! ❤️❤️❤️

  • @Schlipperschlopper
    @Schlipperschlopper ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The moderator has a wonderful old fashioned "lord-like" English accent.

  • @fasthracing
    @fasthracing 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Remember these coming out. They were like a space hip compared with my fathers then P6 V8S.

  • @bigbill74scots
    @bigbill74scots 5 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Shame it was built by people who utterly detested the people who would purchase it.

    • @citizensam8308
      @citizensam8308 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Don’t blame the people who built the SD1 some of them built the P6 and that was very reliable. SD1 unreliably is the result of testing parts by computer.

    • @bigbill74scots
      @bigbill74scots 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@citizensam8308 I disagree. The political landscape had shifted immensely towards more militant action and, dare I highlight it, downright hate towards those viewed as upper class in the years between P6 and SD1. Those on the production line were convinced they had a job for life no matter WHAT they did and while that belief abated over the next 30 years you only had to listen to the news interviews of the workers being made redundant at the final closure to realise a sliver of it still existed as they couldn't accept that this time there had been no 11th hour bale out and they really were unemployed. Notably, these interviews conducted outside the plant showed rows of employees cars all parked as the men did their final shift and very few of them were Rover, despite the excellent reduced cost lease schemes offered to employees by Rover itself.
      The reality is Rover destroyed itself from the inside out.

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@bigbill74scots I wonder whether Red Robbo was an MI6 saboteur . The Guardian honoured him. I think he was a National Wanker!

    • @bigbill74scots
      @bigbill74scots 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Isochest Robbo admitted he was before his death. The theory was if you deny a nation the ability to mass produce cars, you deny them the same for tanks.

    • @Isochest
      @Isochest 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bigbill74scots I always thought he was a saboteur. Did he say who he did it for?

  • @pharoahegypt
    @pharoahegypt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'Dirty Yellow' was that colour. Who else but Rover would launch a car with that choice of colour? And the woes of the car are now legendary. But I still wished I had one in the garage just for a giggle ride of a Sunday.

    • @miawallace2785
      @miawallace2785 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Turmeric yellow was a kind of toe fungus colour

    • @stevepreston2903
      @stevepreston2903 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I owned a£500 SD1 in the 1980s in Yellow, I was a young lad working for Laskys the HiFi company everyone thought it was great with its big windscreen as it was like piloting an aircraft.I then went on to own several and even a Black 3500 Vanden Plas.

  • @Steve-Cross
    @Steve-Cross ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nostalgic. Not at all misogynistic. Wonderful to see the little lad with his head between the front seats with his dad doing 120 mph. Nothing wrong with that. They were simpler times. 😂

  • @deanstanley5799
    @deanstanley5799 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nice Anglo French relations with the old dear in the hat !!!!

  • @jamesrowland2038
    @jamesrowland2038 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We had a 1979 3500 our best loved family car
    Despite the doors falling open occasionally
    Thanks for posting such a fantastic period piece

  • @theaylesburycyclist8756
    @theaylesburycyclist8756 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These looked like something from another planet, when I was a kid. Then came the Ford Sierra, and that confirmed I was truly living in the future... The SD1 still looks futuristic in 2021...... As for the Sierra 🤷‍♂️🤔🙄

  • @Ronshydrohub
    @Ronshydrohub ปีที่แล้ว

    I had the 2.6 ltr sdi and the 3.5 ltr van den plas in the late 70's loved them...one was for my wife and the 3.5 for me...of course...😊

  • @tonycutty598
    @tonycutty598 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Raymond Baxter (the narrator on this video) was a class dude. He flew Spitfires in the Second World War and was involved in the evacuation of Dunkirk. He was the main presenter of the BBC's 'Tomorrow's World' when I was a kid, and I loved his style and obious enthusiasm.

  • @tryoutvid
    @tryoutvid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For anyone interested the Bell pub at 10:07 is The Bell Inn at Outwood , Surrey, and is frequented by a rather famous Dame (think Bond).

  • @moran68
    @moran68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    He didn't slam the door shut on his Rover because the wing mirror falls off if he did.

  • @andysells6803
    @andysells6803 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the vitesse was a beauty

  • @sitcorocket
    @sitcorocket ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Raymond Baxter...TV legend and war hero.....

  • @SteveM-ly7oy
    @SteveM-ly7oy ปีที่แล้ว

    I think it is a beautiful-looking car. I was 7 when they first came out and I entered a competition in the newspaper (via my parents' surname) to win one, back in 1976.

  • @sams8591
    @sams8591 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this. I know the UK has bad weather (I should know I live there!), but they really should have chosen a sunny day as it looks so depressing!

  • @jasonmeehan1269
    @jasonmeehan1269 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ad s p6 v8 and rangey owner I've enjoyed watching this.I remember my first ride in an sd1 as my QS in the army had one.much more room the p6 but not as technically advanced as the p6 eg drum brakes instead of inboard rear disc's. Thanks for posting.

  • @nickthomas181
    @nickthomas181 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Funny my Dad had the "sister car" to the 245 Volvo saloon featured here. His was a 76 on an R plate(which it never wore) it beige with a light brown vinyl roof a 245 DL estate uncannily similar we wonder if ours was also a press car originally.The vinyl roof came with the car as standard it was about 12 months old when we bought it. Vinyl roofs on a Volvo were not common ( as we understand it).It went on to be driven all over the world bearing the reg TUB 2 (from a 58 series 1 Landrover Safari it was transferred from that to a 145 Volvo estate on to many Volvos.My sister owns it now). We were die hard caravaners with the Caravan Club and The Caravan Club of Sweden where we had family. It was driven many times to Sweden, France (2000 mile round trip to Canne were the family vans would gather every year)Italy and Monaco. Dad said he considered an SD1 but found them far too unreliable. Then again even with tip-top maintenance, the Volvo wasn't super reliable either (including the 265 and 740 saloons and estate all broke down after extensive servicing before a mammoth trip to France with a big Lunar heavy Caravan)

  • @justinneill5003
    @justinneill5003 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s spooky how that typically 1970s avant garde background music really brings it all back.

  • @Bruce-vq7ni
    @Bruce-vq7ni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    That was brave taking the cover off a Rover on a damp day. A Rover can Oxidize to nothing in minutes. Can fizz away in water faster than a aspirin.

  • @charlesmacgilchrist3648
    @charlesmacgilchrist3648 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    30mpg at 50mph was only with 3 auto gears. The braver geared 5 speed manual was officially rated at 39mpg at 56mph when the 957cc fiesta mk1 did no more than 48mpg.

  • @LR_84
    @LR_84 ปีที่แล้ว

    The amount of computers already involved is staggering! Altough "basic" its still a surprise!

  • @matthewlawrenson3628
    @matthewlawrenson3628 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    30:57 Nicholas McArdle as the car owner. Clearly the man ad companies called when shamelessness was called for as seen by his commercial for Harvest Crunch. The ideal actor for trying convince people about the...interesting products coming out of British Leyland in the 70s.

  • @antoniopalmero4063
    @antoniopalmero4063 ปีที่แล้ว

    My father had the 2.6 litre which I enjoyed very much on the occasions when I borrowed it .

  • @RoadCone411
    @RoadCone411 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I know the looks and appearance are a matter of taste, but to my eyes the SD1 was at least a decade ahead of its time in terms of safety engineering and styling. The interior looks like something from 1988, not 1976, and the smooth rake of the nose (something that was improved with the early 1980s facelift) is unlike any other car from its era in its class. It oozed sophistication but in a different way than previous Rovers, which were known to be far more traditional. I'm sure a lot of potential Rover buyers were turned off by the SD1's looks - my grandparents included - but I always liked them.
    Of course, the fact that the car was so poorly put together is another matter. Early SD1s rusted badly and they suffered reliability that would be unimaginable in any new car today (modern Alfas are like Lexuses compared to 1970s Rovers!) It's a shame because the basic recipe of a good, decent and exciting car all existed, but the lack of quality control and indifferent workforce doomed this and all British Leyland cars, no matter how competent they might otherwise have been.
    Kids today, driving their Hyundais, Nissans, Fiats and Fords, will never understand how big (and bad) BL was in 1970s Britain.

    • @DessieTots
      @DessieTots 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Apart from the "smooth rake" of the Citroen CX. At least David Bache was sensible enough to keep the rejected
      BMC Pininfarina design in the back of his mind.

    • @philnewstead5388
      @philnewstead5388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Whilst a agree they did rust where they really any worse than their contemporaries, I was in the motor trade at this time and i well remember seeing four year old Granadas with small blisters on the front wings and i think the VX 4/90s left the factory with corrosion as standard and the Renaults and the Citroens of the time were terribly prone to rust. I think we tend to forget how quickly cars used to rust back the in these days of 7 and even 10 year corrosion warranties. Even twenty years ago cars were generally scrapped because they were too rotten to be repaired, now most cars are scrapped because a component costing many thousands of has failed rendering it uneconomic to repair so a structurally sound car ends up as scrap because of economic reasons.

  • @bbbf09
    @bbbf09 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its 2023 - As an engineer who has a little experience with CFD flow calcs - today armed with a souped parallel processing top of range PC - or supercomputer - you can do some genuinely useful fluid flow calcs that will save time and money on real world testing, and give useful feedback and pointers.
    But regardless, you still need many Gbytes of memory and GHz clock speeds to make this practical. The idea that you could do anything useful in the 1970s to optimised car windscreen heating and wipers is hilarious. Good for your PR show though. Smoke and mirrors.

  • @ABCDEF-yf4yu
    @ABCDEF-yf4yu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was the 3500 V8 that was launched first in 1976, the 2300 and 2600 came the following year. There was a facelift about 1982 with a 2000 that wasn't very good and a 2400 diesel. One thing I don't think I have ever seen an SD1 used as a taxi.

  • @ThirdDegreeWitchExplores
    @ThirdDegreeWitchExplores 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Raymond Baxter .......... ww2 Spitfire Pilot...........Legend

  • @leeenglandland2978
    @leeenglandland2978 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Built by people who hated their job, hated the management and a management who couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery. It also had the ugliest dashboard of any car on the road.

  • @davidhunt6463
    @davidhunt6463 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The one thing that the SD1 lacked was a front centre armrest like the Jag XJ6s which swept up from the centre console. I was forever going to lean on it and it was not there.

    • @miawallace2785
      @miawallace2785 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My mates had one as he moaned if you leaned on it , so I'd say yours didn't have one not you couldn't get one

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes but the Rover SD1 was much cheaper than anything Jaguar made.

  • @Pyjamarama11
    @Pyjamarama11 ปีที่แล้ว

    We owned a yellow SD1
    A beautiful, futuristic, comfortable vehicle
    It never ran, mind you ..... just sat on the drive
    Still, nice to look at

  • @jrbs
    @jrbs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They look fantastic in yellow

  • @rosewood1
    @rosewood1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a fantastic little movie. A wonderful pastiche of 70s elegance and style and ipso facto the car which the desirable people drove. Lovely. Of course we look at it today through our new politically correct views. The SD1 was both great and in Australia really flawed. I loved mine however in 1979 they fitted stromberg carburettors instead of SU which killed both fuel economy and performance. The air conditioning system was appallingly retro fitted the switch gear cheap and broke. The rear suspension was structually weak and broke! Nevertheless after rebuilding, repainting and fitting a new dash I ended up with a wonderful car. Love the early computer design segment. One of the best examples I have seen of the use of early paper tape computer technology I have seen. Good to see the film has been preserved. The is unique footage. (Not fairly unique lol!) Thanks for sharing.

  • @edjack1993
    @edjack1993 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool car.

  • @anthonyperkins7556
    @anthonyperkins7556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The later SD1's were somewhat better because by the 80's the quality issues were largely resolved.

    • @bluegtturbo
      @bluegtturbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I't was no coincidence that SDI sounds similar to STI - on balance I'd rather have the latter - at least it can be fixed...

    • @nkt1
      @nkt1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      bluegtturbo SD1 sounds like STI? Um, ok.

    • @bluegtturbo
      @bluegtturbo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nkt1 Yep - but you need to say it quickly;-)

    • @pinback667
      @pinback667 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bluegtturbo How does "S D One" sound anything like "S T eye"? You are clearly confusing `One' with 'I' - which suggests you don't even know the car's name, hence are not really able to pass comment on its provenance.

    • @bluegtturbo
      @bluegtturbo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@pinback667 Let's hope Santa brings you a GSOH:-) . Merry Xmas!

  • @randomoldbloke
    @randomoldbloke 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a real soft spot for the SD1 , did a lot of work on them when they first came to Australia I would have one in a heartbeat. Fit a modern engine in one and it would be a world beater even today . A Aussie Ford Barra motor would be a perfect match of power and reliability

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds a good combination, but to be fair the original V8 that was designed by Buick as a good engine. 0 to 60 mph in 8.9 seconds isn’t bad.

    • @randomoldbloke
      @randomoldbloke 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matty6848 the 3.5 is a very good engine but they do have there problems especially in Australian conditions. I have had them in land rover, Range Rover and Leyland terrier trucks . They also went surprisingly good in the BTCC considering the weight of the SD1 and size . They were years ahead of any other comparable vehicle in its class . I would still have one in a heartbeat but they are very rare in Australia now

    • @matty6848
      @matty6848 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomoldbloke their rare in the U.K as well. Yes I can imagine in the harsh desert like conditions especially in the outback the V8 would suffer especially with the extreme heat in the summer months period. Obviously SD1’s were developed in cold old Blighty. Nice to see there are still some fine examples on the roads though👍

    • @Salman-sc8gr
      @Salman-sc8gr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matty6848 removing the blank section cover in mid upper section allows more air flow to radiator.

  • @shermansquires3979
    @shermansquires3979 ปีที่แล้ว

    Raymond Baxter! great presenter, and a Battle of Britain spitfire pilot!

  • @williamkennedy5492
    @williamkennedy5492 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A ps, not only did the mirror make it to Thailand but its ignitions keys made it too, along with their factory ident number, ( see below) The SD1 had been in production some 5 or 6 years when my dad brought one new, one would think all the defects and build quality issues would have been cured alas no such thing happened , the basic design was good but the build quality and reliability were bloody awful, having said all that i like old cars and wish i had never let the car go, it was in good condition no rust !

  • @MrGoneTroppo
    @MrGoneTroppo ปีที่แล้ว

    A very safe car, mainly because it was stationary a lot of the time

  • @HeikoQuant
    @HeikoQuant 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I first saw this car i thought it was achingly beautiful. Like something from the future. Modern with some heft to it. Ithought it to be the most stunning car I had seen in my life, Later on I felt similarly regarding the Porsche 928. It is tragic that the SD1 fell victim to shoddy workmanship and strikes. It coud have revived the ailing UK motor industry. Instead it handed it to Germany.

  • @philnewstead5388
    @philnewstead5388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I still think it's a good looking car today. On the test car driven by Raymond Baxter one thing summed up the problem with BL at the time, the steering wheel was off centre. Presumably when they gave him the car they knew it was to be used for a TV documentary and they couldn't even be bothered to make sure the steering wheel was straight. I loved the bit about the computer doing in hours what used to take weeks and the size of the computer. We now do in minutes what used to take hours on a tablet. It was also interesting that everything was transferred onto hard copy whereas today we keep it all on a database. It's a shame that poor quality ancillary components made the early cars so unreliable because it should have been a world beater, it was one of the first cars in this class with a hatchback and folding rear seats as the hatchback Granada was still some five years away. I do think cars were more interesting in the '70s the cars in the lineup at the start were all so different not like today's offerings that all look so similar it is difficult to tell one make from the other.

    • @SalimKhan-gk1fh
      @SalimKhan-gk1fh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even worse Phil stop the video at 4:07 and look at the rear panel just below the light cluster and where it meets the bumper it has been welded in place totally misaligned ! you actually won’t believe it until you look closely!

    • @philnewstead5388
      @philnewstead5388 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Salim Khan Sadly I would and do believe it the front panel on these early cars behind the front bumper was the same, I was a mechanic in a BL dealer when these cars were new and you wouldn't believe some of the things we used to have to correct. I remember one SD1 I did a PDI (pre delivery inspection) on went down for cleaning as they used to come covered in wax and the interior promptly filled with water because the sunroof drain tubes had not been fitted. The rest of the range was little better I was given a PDI on a Princess when light interiors were a new idea and three out of the four door cards were different colours, I had a Dolomite Sprint with Sprint wheels, trim and decals on one side of the car 1850HL wheels, trim and decals on the other and a 1500 badge on the boot and finally I got a series two Marina 1.8 HL which was the top of the range Marina at the time badged as an HL with HL interior trim but base model exterior trim i.e. no side rubbing strips, chrome wheel arch embellishers and no brightwork around the window frames but it had HL wheel trims and when I lifted the bonnet instead of the 1.8 twin carb I was expecting there was I 1.3 engine. It's all a great shame really because the cars weren't bad and the interiors in my opinion were much better than the Fords,Vauxhalls and Rootes Group products of the day.

    • @SalimKhan-gk1fh
      @SalimKhan-gk1fh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philnewstead5388 Same here phil I used to work for Austin Rover local dealership in Brighton 1982 21years old I was! I actually love the job but the poor quality was horrendous On the minis are used to use a block of wood jammed in the door lock to bend the top part of the doorframe into shape otherwise it wasn’t touching on the seal and would leak! The launch of the SD1 back in the 70s was extremely exciting not like today’s modern cars coming out they are changing every year the Rover launch was a massive event and I secretly always wanted that to be a world beating car have you seen the video ‘Longbridge the end of days’ I found it quite interesting, I always remember the red Austin marinas with the lovely beige velour trim , Yes much better than any Ford Vauxhall or roots products at the time

  • @TheEtruscanhorse
    @TheEtruscanhorse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:05 Good use of the ankle mic.

  • @lizandian
    @lizandian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15.56 Best bit. Had my VDP EFI to 200kph...

    • @Chriswales
      @Chriswales 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Neighbours had one, think it was a 2600. Lovely looking car but they quickly replaced it with a MK2 Granada. Over heard them saying the Ford was much more stable on the motorway and didn't make them feel sick.

  • @savagesam205
    @savagesam205 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:30 brilliant ad!

  • @tzsteve33
    @tzsteve33 ปีที่แล้ว

    That “battery” of warning lights sure came in handy

  • @johnathandaviddunster38
    @johnathandaviddunster38 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rover bird catcher !!! Don't fancy yours much !!!!!......

  • @matthewroberts1828
    @matthewroberts1828 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are going to launch it in a muddy horse yard on a foggy day. What a metaphor, absolutely no direction there.

  • @paulthesquid3595
    @paulthesquid3595 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quite simply in one word they were JUNK!!!!

  • @TheCatBilbo
    @TheCatBilbo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah, I remember my Dad's company car - the silver beast!

  • @masseyfergy68
    @masseyfergy68 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing to see how much the country has descended into the mess its in today in such a short span of years......sad but true.

    • @markfox1545
      @markfox1545 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's the spirit! What a fantastic daring-do attitude you have. 👍

  • @interceptor213
    @interceptor213 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The British trying to speak Italian at 16:00 are quite hilarious

  • @blxtothis
    @blxtothis ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah Raymond Baxter, all is well in the world again.

  • @OlafProt
    @OlafProt ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember thinking this car was the BUSINESS. Some wealthy friends had an automatic one and just seemed amazing.

  • @davidsanders8887
    @davidsanders8887 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    12:46 Did the narrator say "Bird Catcher" ? Yep, a fine example of unabashed 70's sexism.

    • @Bloxdio_God
      @Bloxdio_God 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      A beautiful age. Long before Political correctness destroyed the UK

    • @arfski
      @arfski 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Bloxdio_God Backward thinking misogynists like you have held back the UK, make no mistake, it's your legacy that will ultimately be responsible for the destruction of the current UK before a new forward looking country recreates itself, and it won't look like the one that you dream of either...

    • @pinkyn0se
      @pinkyn0se 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So right. They would now use the term "slut trapper" instead. Far more appropriate, I'm sure we can agree.

    • @eat_a_dick_trudeau
      @eat_a_dick_trudeau 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arfski whoa, save some minge for the rest of us, Captain Saveahoe.

  • @timpriddy349
    @timpriddy349 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The weather reminds you of british leyland period

  • @johnj3577
    @johnj3577 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    And yet despite all those refinements, the steering wheel on the yellow car isn't on straight :(

    • @conormcgowan3018
      @conormcgowan3018 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great story

    • @kiritanJ
      @kiritanJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The yellow car is not going straight.

    • @TheHorsebox2
      @TheHorsebox2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And it's extremely loose...oh, it's meant to do that.

  • @GodlessGrandpa
    @GodlessGrandpa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Raymond Baxter. Didn't he host Tomorrow's World?

    • @eddiezweers4158
      @eddiezweers4158 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He is best known for being the first presenter of the BBC Television science programme Tomorrow's World, continuing for 12 years, from 1965 to 1977.

    • @horsenuts1831
      @horsenuts1831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe he presented every single programme on BBC in the 1970s, and if he was on holiday, Frank Bough took over.

    • @dannygroom3327
      @dannygroom3327 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He shot down Nazi messerschmitts with his spitfire......

    • @seansands424
      @seansands424 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes