American Bresse Feed Trial - Moving & Sorting
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- On to increasing their space! Picked 2 favorite males from both our group and Chase's.
The favorite males stay with the pullets in "Pullet Pen". Both groups are now on the 19% Kraut Creek Bresse Grower feed formula.
You are a wonderful teacher! Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge with us!
Im so looking forward togetting my hands on some good birds so can see and feel what you are teaching! Thank you for your continued education. Its so appreciated!
Great info and setup. Birds looks awesome.
That door is so cool 😊
At 32:15 I paused to comment & that pullet by the feeder on the right!!!! Holy moly! She’s so wide!!! ❤️🏆❤️
Love your videos! Very helpful in learning. Thanks for all the work you are doing for us as well as this breed.
Think you may have motivated me to go build some infrastructure for mine....
There's no such thing as too much space!
Looks like someone put you on to some good birds over at The Recreational Homestead.
I have to wonder who the fellow was.
Your welcome! 😉
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The biggest difference between the two so far is width and roundness of shape. I might process a couple early to show the shape difference. Picking up with the finishing feed today!
I have to limit feed my birds since 2 of my egg layers are a CX version of Freedom Ranger and two are Big Red Broilers and both sets of birds have the eat gene. I am using those TSC rubber bowls ATM, but I'm tossing them due to health concerns. I just picked up 4 stainless steel 12x10x3.5 lasagna pans; 2 for the meats when I have them and 2 for the layers. Little up front cost, but I have a stainless automatic waterer and it convinced me this is the way to go. No more plastic, no more repurposed tires, no more galvanized; which are nothing like original USA made from 40-50 years ago. These pans should outlast me. Someone needs to make some stainless gravity feeders.
Why are you replacing your rubber bowl feeders? We have one and like it. What health problems do you suspect are caused by it?
I’m glad I’m not the only one with the wasted food issue! What feeder you order? I was thinking of making handle style feeder with deep V so they can’t kick it out! I got some meatballs I’ll send you my excel sheet.
I had birds with keel bones that were curving from a farm that is well known ( you know who). None of chases birds have it is that something would see at 6-7 weeks ? Good stuff pal!
Turbo feeders, but I'm not recommending them until I have proof. 😂 Otherwise, building something might be the way to go.
@@arcadianorchard I have orange and yellow oval ones. They hop up and crap in it and spill over horrible
Great stuff! Thank you for being so transparent with us about the selections. My oldest are 9 weeks old and my nicest comb boys have a lack of chest depth. So, I guess I am going to look at my batch #2 and 3 and keep back maybe 2 of the deepest chest boys from my first group. Getting out the leg bands tonight and going to weigh them. Haven’t weighed yet because we had a recent bout with coccidia that set them back a bit.
I'm going to give them more time to show chest depth but handling them and feeling for their fleshing thus far is important. We had a touch of Coccidia too, early! Usually it's a Summer thing normally. Our property came with it because it had free range chickens for decades before we came here, so we're working on resistance. No medicated feed, no Corrid. Instead, building immune systems, high quality nutrition and some Nubiotic Oregano Oil in the water. I lost 1 of mine and none from Chase but there's one cockerel from Chase looking a little sleepy. Might cull him to check internal structure at 9 weeks. But I still keep on weighing through that stuff because it'll show me who's clear of it and doing great, which is who you really want to hang onto for health/vigor.
@@arcadianorchard Bummer about y’all having the cocci also. I brought ours with us apparently. 🤦♀️ But I haven’t treated any of our adults since getting the Bresse - which is awesome! We haven’t had any rabbits with it either, and they’re right there in the hutch with chickens everywhere.
Breeding one that shows(shows) split wing to one that only carries(tester) or is clean(tester) is the only way to remove the carriers from the flock. This is my plan for my Bresse chickens. In that breeding if any offspring of the tester showed the trait, that tester would be a carrier.
My plan is to keep a Rooster that doesn't show(tester), and say 10 hens that show, to speed up the testing. Pair up all my best tester Roosters, that do not show(tester), one each with a hen or 2 from the 10-20 that (show). Hatch the eggs from the 10 (show) hens & any offspring that show, proves the rooster paired with the show hens, that rooster is a carrier. Mark and put all the carrier roosters in the rooster carrier pen. All the roosters that produced chicks that did not show are CLEAR of the split wing. Put the clear roosters in the clear rooster pen.
Now that we have clear roosters we need to get us some clear hens. Take a rooster that (SHOWS) and breed to as many hens that I can, that do not show(testers). Hatch those batches from each of those tester hens. Offspring that show from the tester hens, those hens are carriers. Put the carrier hens in the carrier hen pen. The offspring from the hens that had no (shows), those hens are (CLEAR). Put those hens in the clear hen pen.
To start this testing I recommend breeding to create split wings to get at least 10 -20 hens with split wings. and keep at least 2 split wing roosters in case one dies during testing. This will make this whole testing take only two to three years max to get some clear birds. If you only have one split wing hen it will take a really long time... she will have to be bred to a tester rooster... removed from the rooster after ample breeding to get a batch or 2 of eggs from her, give her 3-4 weeks before placing with the next tester rooster and so on.. this could take a lot longer to get clear roosters... So make a bunch of Split wing hens. It would be nice to have 2 (show) hens for each of the tester roosters to give a bigger hatch batch to test from.
I would also keep the carriers in case they had qualities that my clears did not have that I wanted(promise bird), & I could breed those traits back into the clears. Offspring from those breeding's(testers) would produce 3 out of 4 of the hatch as clears & 1 out of 4 carriers. Then would need to test those (tester) offspring with (shows) to weed out the carriers. Once we have clean birds that carry the new trait we are breeding for we can breed back to the promise bird and test those offspring for clears.. again a 3/4 chance or clears with the possibility of the desired(promise) trait.
One could just cull the shows forever but you would stand the chance of having carriers that could turn the whole flock into carriers over time if you fail to do the proper breeding/culling to get all clears. Just do it and never look back. If you want to test newcomers from outside the flock, make sure you preserve at least 1 shows rooster & one shows hen. These can be kept as well to retest your flock for any that slipped through the cracks. What say You?
Yes, Kerby Jackson explained that very method when I first started complaining about it. It's definitely part of "the work of it" and when ever a trait needs to be test mated for, it's tedious and takes awhile. BUT, you get cleaner, more correct birds. "scrubbing the genetics" instead of ignoring it and keeping them dirty.
Some might say "They're just meat birds" but really, they're not just that, they're more! I like to think of them as a breeding project with lot's to teach, with a lot of meat gained in that effort. Plus breakfast eggs, maybe some broodies, the next replacement flock from the better offspring... Not many "meat birds" can do all of that.