Has been around for pc cooling for a long time already. I still have some old fittings lying around. Though I think they are for 10mm outer diameter or something :D
They've been around the watercooling space for years but there haven't been a ton of manufacturers producing them. I'm sure eventually all the big names will have a sharkbite style option.
likely becasue of the downside of sharkbites....they arent meant to be reused much at all. and given how many times ppl testfit, drain, clean, etc wouldnt make that much sense.
@@hotaru25189 this right here... plus its not much of a custom loop if you can only use one brand of fittings in it. the first point is the biggest prob though. this type of connector does not like to be reused, and what a nightmare they will be to clean.
"Sharkbites" would actually be really good for this kind of application... there's not much extreme heat or cold to deal with, nor that high of pressure. I've used sharkbites on regular plumbing in houses. While they are another connection that CAN fail... I've never actually had that happen , unless the tubing was installed wrong. Good on them for bringing that tech over from the trades-world.
I learned my house uses em for water pipes. 1 winter frozen pipe casued a lot of pressure and it popped the copper pipe out of a sharkbite. Only downside in custom watercooling might be re-usability in the fittigns & tubes (since they physically damage what they "bite" and they arent meant to be reused much)
I first came across sharkbite fittings in plumbing back in 2011, they have been around for awhile in regular home and business plumbing even before I first found out about them.
Would be interested to know how many times you can connect/disconnect hard tubing through those shark bite type fittings. I'd assume they would eventually mark the tubing and lose their grip.
@@hotaru25189In a low pressure application like this I imagine you could get away with far more insertions than that before it's a serious concern. It'll depend on the tubing and how aggressive the teeth are but I wouldn't be too worried. They could be a chore to clean though.
This type of connection is quite reliable able to take high pressure from even mains water source reliably for several years without failing. I have this type of fitting on my water filter connected to mains water for last 10+ years, disconnect and reconnect every time I change filter cartridge, no issues or leak even under high pressure(~60psi) when connected.
Push-In connectors have been around for many years in PC water-cooling. I used them on my first water-cooled setup, because they were easy to work with. Never had any issues with them, but they were difficult to release after a while because the teeth dug into the tubing over time. They also don't cause deformation or tension.
Oh, I really like that thumbnail case. That might just be my next case! Evolve x2 I think is what you called it. I am planning on using actual sharkbites and copper for my first custom loop, then adapt sizes as needed. I think it'll look really nice once I'm done with it. That's a bit down the road though- need some extra Money first!
copper tubings? I don't think I've seen any builds with that, but if planned well, I'm sure it'll look awesome! and for the sake of saying it, it would likely help with cooling the water. I would probably be careful about it tho, as it might result in condensation, which can short parts if it's dripping water onto it
I use sharkbite style connectors when plumbing all my houses. They function the best when pressurized on a semi-soft/hard pipe (think expansion tools and expansion rings) Soft tubing I think would not work too well without the male compression nipple inside to force the inside of the tube outward putting pressure into the teeth of the fitting. Many commenters have said this already but I have to agree that it took someone in the industry way too long to adopt this. Secondly I really wish that pump res combo was out 6 months ago! Would have fit perfectly in my Q58 build!!!
i have never built a water cooled pc before my first immediate question is with hard tubing how are you supposed to connect both ends of the tube at the same time? I feel like there is many scenarios where it would be extremely difficult to properly connect both ends of a hard tube to a push in connector
That is the same type as sharkbite fittings for residential use, they will end up leaking as the o rings end up getting cut from inproper cleaning and lubrication of the tubes for a good amount of people that use them, I've replaced alot of them and it says right on the package "For Temporary Use"
I wonder if you need to deburr the tubes edges as in my experience with pneumatic fittings if you dont deburr the edges they sometimes cut the o ring inside and the fittings wont be water tight because of that
hey are you going to launch phasesheet ptm in India? we don't even have kryosheet and i tried hydronaut it pumps out in few months. really need something to prevent pump out effect on my laptop.
@@BradleyGibbs as if what's impossible, what are you talking about? Have you never seen a power pass-through cable, or a PSU mounted at the front, on its side or in any other unusual configuration? There are several examples of all those things at this Computex alone. There's good reason to try something like that in this case, and *maybe* room to do it. There *might* be enough depth to mount the PSU on its side and enough width to get it at least slightly out of the GPU's airflow. I can't tell without a btter look at the case, that's why I'm asking the question instead of acting like a know-it-all.
Hi regarding watercooling and direct die cooling is there any compatibility thing you need to check ? I'd like to go fully banana on an old i7 to try before doing it on my main rig.
If they're using actual SharkBite fittings, they're not "questionable". The company behind SharkBite is a one of the largest companies in the plumbing industry, and they do pretty much nothing but water control systems and plumbing solutions.
The questionable part is not the SharkBite but the fact that you can only use it on exactly these dedicated Phanteks components. With the metric threading instead of G1/4 you are very limited on both ends.
The questionable part is the fact that they aren't standard g1/4. Finding out that they are going to release a standard adapter though solves the issue. The only problem with sharkbite style fittings is they don't work with metal and glass tube. Edit: Ha, Der8auer beat me to it by less than a minute while I was typing my response. Fantastic.
@@jimmer411 Yeah, but it doesn't work with brass, which is the most common metal tube in watercooling. The sharkbite style fittings in pc watercooling aren't that effective for copper tube either even though you can somewhat get away with it on coper tube.
A bit overkill for SharkBite fittings but they are nice to work with. A D5 pump is only pushing ~500 mbar max, so 7 psi ONLY! 3/4" Sharkbite to MNPT is ~ $10 for 1. For a 7 psi loop it seems excessive!
Sharktooth fittings are awesome. We have some in our house. They are easy to use and never leak. Still I wouldn't buy into it if it was restricted to only their fittings. The adapter idea is ok but they should really change their fittings to use the same threads. Personally I don't need sharktooth bad enough to have to use adapters and have compatability issues. I think Phanteks is restricting their market in a market that is already fairly niche.
5:47 I agree, but stil, Ive have never ever got an aio in my life and never will. I went straight for custom watercooling :P But thats only 0.5% of the market or maybe even less then that. But ontopic: Beautiful case and with the case from Be Quit my 2 favorites cases they showed.
I’m in love with their water cooling products but it kills me they’re not using G-1/4 threads. Yeah they’ll have adapters but that’s just more parts/potential failure points to worry about. Oh well
Yay! Let's introduce a new hole standard, because why TF not? The only way I'd buy into a new standard is if the hole is larger than that of the G1/4 AND a ton more companies adopt it. But then again, I get Freezemod fittings for $22/8 and these would be more like $25 for 1. The pump looks solid, but there's no real reason to get it unless you're making a new build from scratch or want to waste money. Their GPU blocks always look pristine but WTF is that CPU block? It only really fits in with the rest of the set and with frosted tubes. Their previous ones look better. :(
We have those type of fitting for all our airlines at work They leak and if the pipe is not cut 90° the leak and afthef a while the pipe blows out. No thank you for any liquid
I am a big fan of standards, thus I don't like when they don't use G1/4. If you want to make a new standard it has to be significant better than the already existing standard.
those fittings are an accident waiting to happen Phanteks also makes the worst performance and worst QC'd blocks this generation (4000 series). Multiple cosmetic and performance faults - and in spite of contacting phanteks within a week of purchase they were unwilling to help in any way shape or form saying "just return it" (when it was the last block available for that model in the UK)
A PC should be a joy to work on. I'm not sure water cooling will ever be in line with that. Overclocked units only possible on water are the type to have the margin by which the outperform their stock equivalent made irrelevant by a generational leap in hardware, and the cost of upgrade with air cooling is lower. Even if one must have cutting edge performance, it is usually better to go with air. This is why you're likely to see outdated rigs on watercooling life support stick around longer. It is beautiful though, and if money were no object I would certainly water cool. That is, if I am not the one working on it 😂
That fitting for watercooler is very popular in house pluming. kind of shocked it took that long for pc cooling company's to adopt it
Has been around for pc cooling for a long time already. I still have some old fittings lying around. Though I think they are for 10mm outer diameter or something :D
They've been around the watercooling space for years but there haven't been a ton of manufacturers producing them. I'm sure eventually all the big names will have a sharkbite style option.
likely becasue of the downside of sharkbites....they arent meant to be reused much at all. and given how many times ppl testfit, drain, clean, etc wouldnt make that much sense.
@@hotaru25189 this right here... plus its not much of a custom loop if you can only use one brand of fittings in it. the first point is the biggest prob though. this type of connector does not like to be reused, and what a nightmare they will be to clean.
LOL I'm definitely doing my next build with SharkBite fittings and pex pipe lol
"Sharkbites" would actually be really good for this kind of application... there's not much extreme heat or cold to deal with, nor that high of pressure.
I've used sharkbites on regular plumbing in houses. While they are another connection that CAN fail... I've never actually had that happen , unless the tubing was installed wrong.
Good on them for bringing that tech over from the trades-world.
I learned my house uses em for water pipes. 1 winter frozen pipe casued a lot of pressure and it popped the copper pipe out of a sharkbite.
Only downside in custom watercooling might be re-usability in the fittigns & tubes (since they physically damage what they "bite" and they arent meant to be reused much)
That's what these fittings are. At least the design inspiration came from the Shark Bite fittings used in plumbing.
I first came across sharkbite fittings in plumbing back in 2011, they have been around for awhile in regular home and business plumbing even before I first found out about them.
Would be interested to know how many times you can connect/disconnect hard tubing through those shark bite type fittings. I'd assume they would eventually mark the tubing and lose their grip.
they'd mark it the 1st time (they even damage copper pipes in plumbing) and sharkbites are only reusable 2 or 3 times at best
@@hotaru25189In a low pressure application like this I imagine you could get away with far more insertions than that before it's a serious concern. It'll depend on the tubing and how aggressive the teeth are but I wouldn't be too worried. They could be a chore to clean though.
This type of connection is quite reliable able to take high pressure from even mains water source reliably for several years without failing. I have this type of fitting on my water filter connected to mains water for last 10+ years, disconnect and reconnect every time I change filter cartridge, no issues or leak even under high pressure(~60psi) when connected.
Push-In connectors have been around for many years in PC water-cooling. I used them on my first water-cooled setup, because they were easy to work with. Never had any issues with them, but they were difficult to release after a while because the teeth dug into the tubing over time. They also don't cause deformation or tension.
That absolutely happens! I've installed and maintained pumps for 20+ years!
This "new" sharkbite fittings looks cool. This could be the reason for me to go back custom water-cooling.
I'm definitely going to try custom water cooling in that X2
Oh, I really like that thumbnail case. That might just be my next case! Evolve x2 I think is what you called it.
I am planning on using actual sharkbites and copper for my first custom loop, then adapt sizes as needed. I think it'll look really nice once I'm done with it. That's a bit down the road though- need some extra Money first!
copper tubings? I don't think I've seen any builds with that, but if planned well, I'm sure it'll look awesome! and for the sake of saying it, it would likely help with cooling the water. I would probably be careful about it tho, as it might result in condensation, which can short parts if it's dripping water onto it
I use sharkbite style connectors when plumbing all my houses. They function the best when pressurized on a semi-soft/hard pipe (think expansion tools and expansion rings) Soft tubing I think would not work too well without the male compression nipple inside to force the inside of the tube outward putting pressure into the teeth of the fitting. Many commenters have said this already but I have to agree that it took someone in the industry way too long to adopt this.
Secondly I really wish that pump res combo was out 6 months ago! Would have fit perfectly in my Q58 build!!!
i have never built a water cooled pc before
my first immediate question is with hard tubing how are you supposed to connect both ends of the tube at the same time? I feel like there is many scenarios where it would be extremely difficult to properly connect both ends of a hard tube to a push in connector
it's not that hard, you can bend pipe a little bit
That is the same type as sharkbite fittings for residential use, they will end up leaking as the o rings end up getting cut from inproper cleaning and lubrication of the tubes for a good amount of people that use them, I've replaced alot of them and it says right on the package "For Temporary Use"
I wonder if you need to deburr the tubes edges as in my experience with pneumatic fittings if you dont deburr the edges they sometimes cut the o ring inside and the fittings wont be water tight because of that
hey are you going to launch phasesheet ptm in India? we don't even have kryosheet and i tried hydronaut it pumps out in few months. really need something to prevent pump out effect on my laptop.
Generally not a glass-case guy, but I think that Evolv x2 is gorgeous. Where's the PSU?
In the PSU compartment at the bottom, obviously.
@@BradleyGibbs oh, got x ray eyes have you? Front or back? Orientation? How much of the GPU air flow does it block?
@@VanBurenPhilips Huh? You can literally see the power cable and it's very obviously a PSU compartment.
Why are you acting as if it's impossible?
@@VanBurenPhilips It's almost definitely going to block at least one of those fans there, so it's essentially just 2 120mm fans.
@@BradleyGibbs as if what's impossible, what are you talking about?
Have you never seen a power pass-through cable, or a PSU mounted at the front, on its side or in any other unusual configuration? There are several examples of all those things at this Computex alone. There's good reason to try something like that in this case, and *maybe* room to do it. There *might* be enough depth to mount the PSU on its side and enough width to get it at least slightly out of the GPU's airflow. I can't tell without a btter look at the case, that's why I'm asking the question instead of acting like a know-it-all.
Hi regarding watercooling and direct die cooling is there any compatibility thing you need to check ? I'd like to go fully banana on an old i7 to try before doing it on my main rig.
The top angle airflow is a great after thought for those who put their pc under their desks.
looks great. I'm still not water cooling my PC though. Air all the way for me, thanks.
If they're using actual SharkBite fittings, they're not "questionable". The company behind SharkBite is a one of the largest companies in the plumbing industry, and they do pretty much nothing but water control systems and plumbing solutions.
The questionable part is not the SharkBite but the fact that you can only use it on exactly these dedicated Phanteks components. With the metric threading instead of G1/4 you are very limited on both ends.
The questionable part is the fact that they aren't standard g1/4. Finding out that they are going to release a standard adapter though solves the issue. The only problem with sharkbite style fittings is they don't work with metal and glass tube.
Edit: Ha, Der8auer beat me to it by less than a minute while I was typing my response. Fantastic.
@@TheJjjojThey make shark bite for pex and copper pipe
@@jimmer411 Yeah, but it doesn't work with brass, which is the most common metal tube in watercooling. The sharkbite style fittings in pc watercooling aren't that effective for copper tube either even though you can somewhat get away with it on coper tube.
A bit overkill for SharkBite fittings but they are nice to work with. A D5 pump is only pushing ~500 mbar max, so 7 psi ONLY! 3/4" Sharkbite to MNPT is ~ $10 for 1. For a 7 psi loop it seems excessive!
My only question about the X2 is how do they address GPU sag?
Look at how it sagged. The would have shown if they would do that
Love my Evolv X but that X2 is one hell of a big design change. Extremely nice design though.
This fittings more then 3 years old. Barrow/Barrowch manufacture and sell them. Barrowch Wolverine series
Swiftech had fittings like that 20 years ago
Sharktooth fittings are awesome. We have some in our house. They are easy to use and never leak.
Still I wouldn't buy into it if it was restricted to only their fittings. The adapter idea is ok but they should really change their fittings to use the same threads. Personally I don't need sharktooth bad enough to have to use adapters and have compatability issues. I think Phanteks is restricting their market in a market that is already fairly niche.
That fitting reminds me the Renault Kangoo's fuel pump output and return lines. MAJOR headache I hate them so much.
every french car is a major headache tho
Barbs and spring clamps for soft tubing.
A larger fitting size could be useful for a passive pumpless systems, but pushin fittings are not.
Seasonic makes fans? That Ad intrigues me
Didn't Computex end last week?
They have a different time zone in the EU.
5:47 I agree, but stil, Ive have never ever got an aio in my life and never will.
I went straight for custom watercooling :P
But thats only 0.5% of the market or maybe even less then that.
But ontopic: Beautiful case and with the case from Be Quit my 2 favorites cases they showed.
I’m in love with their water cooling products but it kills me they’re not using G-1/4 threads. Yeah they’ll have adapters but that’s just more parts/potential failure points to worry about. Oh well
the fittings are g one quarter not g one forth Roman
Yay! Let's introduce a new hole standard, because why TF not? The only way I'd buy into a new standard is if the hole is larger than that of the G1/4 AND a ton more companies adopt it. But then again, I get Freezemod fittings for $22/8 and these would be more like $25 for 1.
The pump looks solid, but there's no real reason to get it unless you're making a new build from scratch or want to waste money. Their GPU blocks always look pristine but WTF is that CPU block? It only really fits in with the rest of the set and with frosted tubes. Their previous ones look better. :(
Soft Wall tube is questionable with that fitting
Evolve x2 hurt my mentality with the gpu sag
We have those type of fitting for all our airlines at work
They leak and if the pipe is not cut 90° the leak and afthef a while the pipe blows out.
No thank you for any liquid
Sofa?
Famun Tax make cool pc cases
Shark bite fittings.
not G1/4 ruined it
Ahh the good ole create a problem then create the solution for more profit trick.
I am a big fan of standards, thus I don't like when they don't use G1/4.
If you want to make a new standard it has to be significant better than the already existing standard.
Those are push lock. They work well. Nothing new
I like the seasonic fans, but why have their name plasted on them twice... its too much. As for the water cooling kit, they're gonna be a huge seller.
those fittings are an accident waiting to happen
Phanteks also makes the worst performance and worst QC'd blocks this generation (4000 series). Multiple cosmetic and performance faults - and in spite of contacting phanteks within a week of purchase they were unwilling to help in any way shape or form saying "just return it" (when it was the last block available for that model in the UK)
I dont like the fact the fitting is incompatible with other fittings.
I dont want to be bound to one brand and value flexibility
A PC should be a joy to work on. I'm not sure water cooling will ever be in line with that. Overclocked units only possible on water are the type to have the margin by which the outperform their stock equivalent made irrelevant by a generational leap in hardware, and the cost of upgrade with air cooling is lower. Even if one must have cutting edge performance, it is usually better to go with air. This is why you're likely to see outdated rigs on watercooling life support stick around longer. It is beautiful though, and if money were no object I would certainly water cool. That is, if I am not the one working on it 😂
I don't like these fittings. I imagine it would be difficult for acrylic tubes to be assembled using them. And the looks. . . Only bitspower and ek
anyone else hear Batsh!t orientated instead of budget lol
Since when did seasonic make fans? They look nice
This is nothing new, we use the same system for air, at 6-8 bar
It's cool but it'll probably cost 1342354 dollars per piece so.
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