I made my dracthyr horde, so I never knew the alliance intro, but oh my god the, "This city could withstand attack from a formidable adversary maybe even a dragon" "You have no idea" Had me laughing, just PTSD of Deathwing attacking Stormwind and Wrathion clearly shifty eyes about it
with the Ally Dracthyr, I love the look your character gives Wrathion after the Platoon arrives like "you sure about that buddy?" also interesting NPC colour following: the Ally dracthry leader is Blue, the Hordes is red, the friendly neutral healer is green and the dude that turns the ebonscales into the sundered flame is Yellow, the colour of aggressive neutral I see what you did there Blizz, I see you thinking you're clever.
This is been on my mind for awhile has anyone ever notice the similarities between the dracthyr and the chromatic dragons both can use the abilities of the dragonflights it's almost as if deathwing's son was trying to recreate a similar experiment to the dracthyr but the chromatic dragons were nowhere near as successful
In Blackwing's descent, Nefarian raised Onyxia's corpse and collected DNA from his own as well as other dragon flights. If you look at the ceiling of the fight with him and Onyxia (after she comes out of the lava), you'll see them hanging from the ceiling.
The one thing that bothers me about a new big bad arriving is they always leave one alive to pass a message. Like, why? Why warn who you're coming for and give them time to prepare? That doesn't make any sense.
I think a lot of "big bads" tend to like instilling fear into their victims, a lot of them are extremely overconfident and leaving someone alive to deliver a message is just a way of them showing aforementioned overconfidence.
That’s because bad people always love to see victims terrified and panic. They love seeing people suffer not only physically, but also emotionally. That’s why they do bad things.
I like how Cindrethresh has nicknames for the other Dracthyr, and how if you talk to her as a non-Dracthyr, she just assumes you are an ogre. Also, when you enter the Horde bank, one Dracthyr mentions "a good hoarde" and everyone shouts "FOR THE HORDE!" 🤣
I actually liked the Drac'thyr's story quite a bit. And the void acting didn't disappoint. I feel like _Dragonflight_ is what _Shadowlands_ should have been story-wise. 🤔
What have I missed about Ebyssian/Ebonhorn? I thought that he wasn't an uncorrupted dragon, but lived by protective wards at his home. Did they retcon this or is there an explanation as to why he can suddenly be anywhere without worrying about old god whispers?
He was also cleansed as an egg with the hammer of a titan I am not going to bother trying to spell the name of. It is shown in the high mountain quest line
The Dragon Aspects were empowered by the Titan keepers (if I'm not mistaken) and the Primalists were empowered by the elements, probably by the elementals lords, which one for one were stronger them the Titan Keepers , so it makes sense that the Primalists would be stronger them the Dragon Aspects.
keep in mind though that its stated that the aspects are currently aspects merely in name, since they gave up their aspect powerboosts. i think that is the main reason why they are "currently weaker"
I noticed that basically everything character in WoW gets corrupted and that's how blizzard develop the story of a character...from the orcs, to arthas to even fucking Yrel. Like 75%....gets corrupted. It's basically the "a wizard did it" meme XD. Well at least we can hear Nobbel's beautiful voice with this lore :)
Yeah I'd also noticed that. At least this expansion is making deathwing's corruption more interesting than just "The Old Gods booped him and he's bad now." Which is what happened to poor Ysera in legion... Perhaps, if this modicum of decent storytelling lasts, we'll get a narrative that's more along the lines of "All power corrupts when taken to its extreme."
@@ASpaceOstrich Not directly corrupted. She's a fanatic light user. In the Questlines for the Mag'har Ocs it's revealed that Yrel force the orks to accept the light
I missed out on a lot of WoW lore; some BfA, but mainly SL since I missed out in the beginning. How did we transition from SL to dragons? Lore catch up video?
3 year time skip between the two expansions. We cleaned up stuff in SL and a while later the dragons returned to the isles. Primal forces begin popping up around the world causing "mayhem". Alextrasza has invited the horde and alliance to the isles as an expeditionary force to help unlock secrets that may be found there, and help them become guardians of azeroth again.
@@decayeddivinity9916 so from when the final boss in SL to the beginning of DF it's been three years? There's no direct link between SL and DF? SL didn't cause DF?
When creating an evoker they should've made you wait til the point in the Visage quest to let you create your "human" form. Would've meshed with the story much better.
No thanks. You create your character at the start, you don't want to get thrown into it mid-game when you didn't even know it was going to happen. That's annoying, not fun.
That got me genuinely chuckling. And it makes sense, considering Amon-Thul is stuck on that throne holding back a horrible demonic entity from breaking out and wreaking havoc on the universe...
I have to say... The Sundered Flame has to be the absolute worst foreshadowing I've seen in a long time. It's so blatant, you might as well just tell us.
Ebyssian really sugarcoating things 6:00 "Within these walls gather the noble races of the horde. A city built upon a foundation of strength and honor" Just, you know... Don't talk to the Alliance about the last 2 yea... err.. 4 y... no... 6 years? ... wait, 8.... umm, just don't listen to the Alliance alright? They're a bunch of liars. We didn't burn down their tree and try to genocide the nelfs. And we didnt do all that other stuff either! Theramore isn't even real dude, like, have you been there lately? There's nothing there.
So Deathwings mind control gauntlet breaks and he's afraid of the Dracthyr betraying him so he has Malygos put them to sleep. Why is Razagath mad at Alexstraza when it was Deathwing that imprisoned the Primalists???
They have a hard enough time balancing Druid.... What makes you think they can take on another class with Quadruple Specs? Also that would be 5 specs one for each Dragonflght and that just makes the idea even more of a balancing nightmare.
3 Specc rather, i see Bronze and Green for healing and reversing wounds, Red and Blue for Purging Fire and Arcane Magic. But Black should have been the Tank specc all day.
@@jakobknudsen6864 normally i would have said that be impossible, but Blizz did separate Druid Feral into DPS and Tank so..... 1% chance still a chance.
No, that gauntlet Neltharion is wearing as a glove to control the Dracthyr is not part of Tyr, its a titan artifact called, "The Oathbinder", and I disagree with the Primal Incarnates and their Primalist followers, the Titans placed a grip on Azeroth so that it can be immune to the corruption of both the Old Gods and the Void Lords, and if the Primal Incarnates did successfully freed Azeroth from the Titans grip, the Void Lords will be given the greenlight and gain hold of it and corrupt its world soul into a Dark Titan, a being of unspeakable evil that will both annihilate and consume the universe, and this time not even the Primal Incarnates and their followers would be able to stop them, except for Iridikron, he's the only member of the Primal Incarnates who has formed an alliance with the Void Lords due to the fact that both shared a common enemy and that they shared a common hunger for power.
Its not a coinscedence galagronk and all the old protodrakes are named after frogs dudes... IDK why people think this is impossible. Primals look like chickens even. But galakrond was a frog.
Why is no one talking about the dracthya not have black dragon flight powers, or how deathwing was able to impower his creations with the powers of the other flights. I feel like there will be some timey wimey things going on here
._. The Dracthyr do have Black Dragonflight powers though, several abilities we use are based off that flight's magic. They're all defense based though, not damaging or healing.
Maybe Neltharion was able to procure essences of the other flights and infuse them into the Dracthyr with the help of Malygos. And they do have Black Dragon Magic in them. Deep Breath, Oppressing Roar, Obsidian Scales and Landslide are labeled as "Black". Seems like they decided to make the Black Dragon Magic more Utility based.
@@ZombieSlayerTakashi makes some since. Their titles give a pretty good explanation on their duties. Alextrasza the Life Binder, Ysera the Awakened, Nozdormu the Timeless One, Malygos the Spell-Weaver, and Neltharion the Earth Warner. It makes sense that the black flights powers are defensive in nature.
also correct me if i’m wrong but wasn’t the creation of dracthyr around the same time the dragon eye was made? if it is that’s probably were the other aspects powers came from
I'm excited to focus on the Dragons more. I hope this fleshes out Deathwing more in game since a lot of people didn't really know who he was during Cata which bogged the story down (among other things).
Old gods or titans? What's there to debate? One has a head two arms and two legs. The other has numerous tentacles who try to whisper maddening thought into your ears. Trying to make the black empire sympathetic is going to be hard sell.
@@apacalypsagon3758 the only actual issue is that Titans and the light don't actually want free will, while without the old gods Warcraft wouldn't have even happened as there would be no dwarves, humans, gnomes, etc They literally give free will, so that's something one can keep in mind which honestly makes it more appealing
@@ArklusDryxal but it doesn't really feel like freedom. Just feels like doing favors for money. And why would the Titans care about the needs of those so far beneath their notice. It's like having a human try and relate to what an ant would think.
It makes more sense biologically. Birds are the closest comparisons to dragons, and they only use their larynx and tongue as opposed to changing the shape of their mouth like a human does.
just an FYI there are some books in the azure archives (above the blue oathstone) where it details the story of malygos making the stasis spell and why neltharion asked him to do it
Sorry, not sorry. Somebody had to bring it up Ten thousand years ago superstition and the sword ruled, It was a time of darkness, it was a world of storms, It was the age of dracthyr! Mortal by day, warriors by night; we were betrayed by the dragons we had sworn to protect Frozen in stone by a magic spell for ten thousand years. Now here in Dalaran, the spell has broken and WE LIVE AGAIN! We ARE defenders of the night. We ARE Dracthyr!
Maybe I'm not understanding right, but do we know why Neltharion needed the bracelet to control the Dracthyr? Weren't they loyal to him at the first place? It just doesn't make sense to me as why he'd need that kind of power if they were loyal already.
THis is personal interpetation; i think we can find the answer with the same reason why he locked them away when he lost his gauntlet/control. The dracthyr would have been loyal to him, but he didn't trust that. The whispers of the old gods were already going, making him paranoid, trusting no one but himself. He might not have needed the gauntlet for control, but he needed it for his personality/mind
gods i still wish they had a actual dragon race i wanna be a fire breathing lizard not a fire breathing lizard man dracthyr is probably the closed we will ever get so gotta get what one can get i guess
What happened to them ? they got freeze and forgot how to use a polearm ? they are warriors an now ranged Dps/healers ? Nobody noticed this on their team ? Fix this by making Warriors available to them !
I honestly believe Deathwing is still alive/or will be resurrected and will make a return in Dragonflight. He was not in Shadowlands, so now would be the time for a come back.
Ever since game of thrones I no longer like dragons with arms, legs AND wings. What wow depicts as protodragons or in general is often depicted as Wyvern is what makes most sense. Dragons with legs and their arms being their wings. Now that I think about it Protodragons suck too because of their tiny t-Rex arms.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but I whole heartedly disagree. Dragons with 4 legs and 2 wings are much cooler in my opinion. It gives them much better mobility and utility. Up until Game of Thrones, that’s how most dragons were depicted.
@@RadialNoah Check our the HotD design of Caraxes and tell me it looks better than the basic casual dragons from WoW. As GRRM put it his dragons are more Sci-Fi cause thats "if" Dragons could develop how they most likely would look like. I understand the fantasy approach and dragons like Ancalagon are aweomse but I never again will like Dragons with 6 appendiges.
@@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind I’ve seen HotD. I don’t think World of Warcraft is the best example of dragons either. I still don’t prefer the wyvern style of dragon. “If dragons could develop”, lol. Nothing that big is flying, let alone breathing fire hot enough to melt stone. Let’s not use “realism” as a factor here. They’re just as fantasy as the 4 legged dragon… A dragon with 4 legs and 2 wings would easily beat a 2 winged 2 legged dragon in a fight outside of there being a massive size difference. They also move much less awkwardly on the ground, and look much more majestic on the ground and in flight.
dracthry frankenstein zombies would be freaky like their made from random colored dead dracthry body parts put back together in a bio creater machine in a mold being put back together a mad doctor forsaken made the bio creater mold machine
I just want these stupid things to get visages that aren't elves they can't even use horde armor in the female form cause it's based originally on a human but when I first saw it I mistook it as a belf And it's just insulting we have ebon horn as their representative who is allowed to not be an elf
As far as I have understood it is the "secret service" of the dracthyr that "unfortunately" has only one surviving member... What if they have not been killed but spread across the timeways to have an eye everywhere? In my book they are a potential candidate for aiding Nozdormu in the future as his army.
I brought a Dracthyr weyrn that were timelost in the game to my DnD group (Basically they had a Bronze Dragon Mentor, and had forewarning to the Stasis, and were trapped into a Time loop)
Sundered Flame did nothing wrong :)) If you where lied and imprisoned for 10k years, would you still want to serv the flights who did not moved one finger to help you? Doubt it
Gonna be honest, Raszageth is probably the weakest and most boring villain they've thought up, she's basically diet zero calorie Deathwing without the backstory or charm. But maybe that's the point, by having a lackluster villain that isn't making much impact on the story, it allows growth in other ways, no focused on the big bad as much this time round, just an annoyance we forget about right after she shows up.
I find it really silly that dragon visage are all about choosing what you want to look like and the players can't choose anything, you have to take the ugly ass garbage elv-ish models. Why can't I be a tauren as my visage?
Why the fuck they still haven’t gotten the ability to make good cutscenes? NPCs don’t walk right.. mount movement doesn’t fit.. no unique emotes.. I really hoped after FF14 success they would push that department and strive towards improving quest cutscene cinematography
In wow lore drakes are totally useless, Nozdormu as time aspect? Did he ever turn back time when shit happened? No. Life Aspect... Did she use her power to turn back someone alive? Malygos totally useless....
so why, if creating dragonkin that can wield the power of all 5 flights was successfully created, then why is chromatis so special? I hate the lore of this new race. It's lazily written for the sake of a new playable character and it's insulting to anyone that have actually consumed and cared about the lore of this game. What about Krassus? Sinestra? Nefarian? dw about all of them they don't matter. Chromatic dragon's? dw about those they're under the rug now, just bin 15 years of developing the history to this universe. I'd have been happier with Naga as the new race.
I don't like the Retcon so far painting the titans as evil. It just doesn't go with established lore and feels like it's trying to weaken the titan's story to play up the old ones more and more as their replacements. But I guess we'll see where this story goes in the end.
Not "evil", they simply embody Order and its their top priority to stomp out excessive chaos like the Void Lords, Old Gods and in turn Elemental Lords (Ragnaros, Alakir, Neptulon etc).
That's the issue trying to put morality on beings who probably don't even know what that term means. In any mortals eyes, I'm sure the idea of being deleted at any moment because a cosmic tool for the Titans views your planet and people as corrupt would be seen as "evil". Algalon even tells us outright the Titans have had planets purged throughout the cosmos and it's as if that was completely glossed over.
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I made my dracthyr horde, so I never knew the alliance intro, but oh my god the,
"This city could withstand attack from a formidable adversary maybe even a dragon" "You have no idea"
Had me laughing, just PTSD of Deathwing attacking Stormwind and Wrathion clearly shifty eyes about it
with the Ally Dracthyr, I love the look your character gives Wrathion after the Platoon arrives like
"you sure about that buddy?"
also interesting NPC colour following: the Ally dracthry leader is Blue, the Hordes is red, the friendly neutral healer is green and the dude that turns the ebonscales into the sundered flame is Yellow, the colour of aggressive neutral
I see what you did there Blizz, I see you thinking you're clever.
First time we truly see Wrathion afraid of something. And its glorious. Setting the tone that the primal proto-drakes are no joke
Thank you so much for the feature Nobbel! 💜 Happy DF launch!
I love the dracthyr content. Thank you for making this! Evoker is my main. :)
This is been on my mind for awhile has anyone ever notice the similarities between the dracthyr and the chromatic dragons both can use the abilities of the dragonflights it's almost as if deathwing's son was trying to recreate a similar experiment to the dracthyr but the chromatic dragons were nowhere near as successful
Funnily enough, my current 'Fake dracthyr' was made by nefarion I'm a foolish attempt to remake dracthyr, But in his hubris he failed
@@kharjo8099 that's pretty cool
In Blackwing's descent, Nefarian raised Onyxia's corpse and collected DNA from his own as well as other dragon flights. If you look at the ceiling of the fight with him and Onyxia (after she comes out of the lava), you'll see them hanging from the ceiling.
The one thing that bothers me about a new big bad arriving is they always leave one alive to pass a message. Like, why? Why warn who you're coming for and give them time to prepare? That doesn't make any sense.
One word: Overconfidence
I think a lot of "big bads" tend to like instilling fear into their victims, a lot of them are extremely overconfident and leaving someone alive to deliver a message is just a way of them showing aforementioned overconfidence.
That’s because bad people always love to see victims terrified and panic.
They love seeing people suffer not only physically, but also emotionally.
That’s why they do bad things.
Bad writting. A cheap way to build up them as powerful.
@@donimmortal7692 instantly killing characters are also bad writing yeah we shouldn’t trust blizzard until we see the full product but yeah
I like how Cindrethresh has nicknames for the other Dracthyr, and how if you talk to her as a non-Dracthyr, she just assumes you are an ogre.
Also, when you enter the Horde bank, one Dracthyr mentions "a good hoarde" and everyone shouts "FOR THE HORDE!" 🤣
So sad that last line inevitably got lost in translation.
I actually liked the Drac'thyr's story quite a bit. And the void acting didn't disappoint.
I feel like _Dragonflight_ is what _Shadowlands_ should have been story-wise. 🤔
eh I feel like dragonflight's story is just filler beween shadowlands and the worldsoul saga really. Very forgettable overall.
This could be cool. I can’t wait to see an updated version of this story.
20:24 Yeah, that checks out for Wrathion.
What have I missed about Ebyssian/Ebonhorn?
I thought that he wasn't an uncorrupted dragon, but lived by protective wards at his home.
Did they retcon this or is there an explanation as to why he can suddenly be anywhere without worrying about old god whispers?
There was a storyline during the N'zoth saga that cleanses Ebonhorn of any latent corruption he harbored.
@@blackfirefox666 Thank you. I was unaware
The Black Dragons are free now
@@TheSpoegefugl No worries. You can still check it out if you head to silithus and talk to everyone in the heart chamber under magni camp.
He was also cleansed as an egg with the hammer of a titan I am not going to bother trying to spell the name of. It is shown in the high mountain quest line
"This city could withstand and attack from a formidable enemy, perhaps even a dragon"
"You have no idea"
I chuckled
How would walls defend against a flying dragon?
@@GrandMagusDK well considering the dragons don’t break through the walls technically the walls are unbreacheable by them
@@GrandMagusDK Deathwing sat on the walls of Stormwind during Cataclysm.
The Dragon Aspects were empowered by the Titan keepers (if I'm not mistaken) and the Primalists were empowered by the elements, probably by the elementals lords, which one for one were stronger them the Titan Keepers , so it makes sense that the Primalists would be stronger them the Dragon Aspects.
keep in mind though that its stated that the aspects are currently aspects merely in name, since they gave up their aspect powerboosts. i think that is the main reason why they are "currently weaker"
I noticed that basically everything character in WoW gets corrupted and that's how blizzard develop the story of a character...from the orcs, to arthas to even fucking Yrel. Like 75%....gets corrupted. It's basically the "a wizard did it" meme XD. Well at least we can hear Nobbel's beautiful voice with this lore :)
I like Yrel, she's cool.
I mean I've always found the idea of "haha I'm evil just because" as very boring lol
Yeah I'd also noticed that. At least this expansion is making deathwing's corruption more interesting than just "The Old Gods booped him and he's bad now." Which is what happened to poor Ysera in legion... Perhaps, if this modicum of decent storytelling lasts, we'll get a narrative that's more along the lines of "All power corrupts when taken to its extreme."
Wait Yrel got corrupted?
@@ASpaceOstrich Not directly corrupted. She's a fanatic light user. In the Questlines for the Mag'har Ocs it's revealed that Yrel force the orks to accept the light
I missed out on a lot of WoW lore; some BfA, but mainly SL since I missed out in the beginning. How did we transition from SL to dragons? Lore catch up video?
3 year time skip between the two expansions. We cleaned up stuff in SL and a while later the dragons returned to the isles. Primal forces begin popping up around the world causing "mayhem". Alextrasza has invited the horde and alliance to the isles as an expeditionary force to help unlock secrets that may be found there, and help them become guardians of azeroth again.
@@decayeddivinity9916 so from when the final boss in SL to the beginning of DF it's been three years? There's no direct link between SL and DF? SL didn't cause DF?
@@alexramos8019 not that we know of
@@decayeddivinity9916 Hmm, sounds good to me
@@alexramos8019 The Shadowlands aren't real. Don't worry about it. Nothing happened. Just enjoy the dragons.
When creating an evoker they should've made you wait til the point in the Visage quest to let you create your "human" form. Would've meshed with the story much better.
Absolutely
No thanks. You create your character at the start, you don't want to get thrown into it mid-game when you didn't even know it was going to happen. That's annoying, not fun.
So... Is Neltharion one of the lost primarchs? You know creating a fearful legion that he was father and leader of...
Oh......oooooooh did not expect a possible W40K reference and it even fits
That got me genuinely chuckling. And it makes sense, considering Amon-Thul is stuck on that throne holding back a horrible demonic entity from breaking out and wreaking havoc on the universe...
Haha. Good one there @sverdalfr! 😎
But nah, he isn't. Waldo is. Because he's missing.
Thank you! Love how well you break these awesome stories down. Wonderful orator.
With us going into more Shadowflame stuff, do you think the Adamant Vigil will show off a possible third spec for evokers?
Augmentation!
Thanks for the lore. ^^
I have to say... The Sundered Flame has to be the absolute worst foreshadowing I've seen in a long time. It's so blatant, you might as well just tell us.
I think it’s pretty much set in stone that Nozdormu will turn heel in DF.
Love to see Zuan in a Nobbel video. Seeing a fav in nobbel's videos is -so- neat.
Ngl I was hoping Viridia and Cinderthresh would have a couple, they are showing such sapphic tones.
Headcannon... they are a couple, there actions to each other are verrry couple like
Ebyssian really sugarcoating things 6:00
"Within these walls gather the noble races of the horde. A city built upon a foundation of strength and honor"
Just, you know... Don't talk to the Alliance about the last 2 yea... err.. 4 y... no... 6 years? ... wait, 8.... umm, just don't listen to the Alliance alright? They're a bunch of liars. We didn't burn down their tree and try to genocide the nelfs. And we didnt do all that other stuff either! Theramore isn't even real dude, like, have you been there lately? There's nothing there.
Thank you for this video very interesting and information like the new half dragon race
A plotline about free will and destiny? I am all in about this, Dragonflight looks very promising, good luck tomorrow for everyone
That, and we yet have to see Murozond emerge.
🐉 Less than 12 hours to the DRAGONFLIGHT START 🐉 🐉 🐉
29/11/2022 00:01!!! Hype is real!!! 🐉
A new intro _and_ a new channel icon? This truly is a new age!
Welcome back Noble one
I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE! XD
Hey!!!!! Z is in the video that is dope
Nobbel your videos are all the hype I need
So Deathwings mind control gauntlet breaks and he's afraid of the Dracthyr betraying him so he has Malygos put them to sleep.
Why is Razagath mad at Alexstraza when it was Deathwing that imprisoned the Primalists???
Have to ask what is the UI addon at 11:58? Great video as always.
You might have better luck asking that streamer instead of Nobbel.
So where is the Tank Spec?
Maybe we'll get one in a few years. For now, dps and heals.
Is just me or your Evoker look like Kulve Taroth 😆
Blizzard fumbled the bag with not making dracthyr a 4 spec class with each spec being a dragonflight
They have a hard enough time balancing Druid.... What makes you think they can take on another class with Quadruple Specs? Also that would be 5 specs one for each Dragonflght and that just makes the idea even more of a balancing nightmare.
3 Specc rather, i see Bronze and Green for healing and reversing wounds, Red and Blue for Purging Fire and Arcane Magic. But Black should have been the Tank specc all day.
@@felixdumbravescu2725 Fingers crossed that will get added eventually. If the outcry is loud enough it just might happen... after 2-4 years, lol
that would take effort, talent and money to make something actually good
@@jakobknudsen6864 normally i would have said that be impossible, but Blizz did separate Druid Feral into DPS and Tank so..... 1% chance still a chance.
Thank you
No, that gauntlet Neltharion is wearing as a glove to control the Dracthyr is not part of Tyr, its a titan artifact called, "The Oathbinder", and I disagree with the Primal Incarnates and their Primalist followers, the Titans placed a grip on Azeroth so that it can be immune to the corruption of both the Old Gods and the Void Lords, and if the Primal Incarnates did successfully freed Azeroth from the Titans grip, the Void Lords will be given the greenlight and gain hold of it and corrupt its world soul into a Dark Titan, a being of unspeakable evil that will both annihilate and consume the universe, and this time not even the Primal Incarnates and their followers would be able to stop them, except for Iridikron, he's the only member of the Primal Incarnates who has formed an alliance with the Void Lords due to the fact that both shared a common enemy and that they shared a common hunger for power.
Its not a coinscedence galagronk and all the old protodrakes are named after frogs dudes... IDK why people think this is impossible. Primals look like chickens even. But galakrond was a frog.
Why is no one talking about the dracthya not have black dragon flight powers, or how deathwing was able to impower his creations with the powers of the other flights. I feel like there will be some timey wimey things going on here
._. The Dracthyr do have Black Dragonflight powers though, several abilities we use are based off that flight's magic. They're all defense based though, not damaging or healing.
Maybe Neltharion was able to procure essences of the other flights and infuse them into the Dracthyr with the help of Malygos. And they do have Black Dragon Magic in them. Deep Breath, Oppressing Roar, Obsidian Scales and Landslide are labeled as "Black". Seems like they decided to make the Black Dragon Magic more Utility based.
@@ZombieSlayerTakashi makes some since. Their titles give a pretty good explanation on their duties. Alextrasza the Life Binder, Ysera the Awakened, Nozdormu the Timeless One, Malygos the Spell-Weaver, and Neltharion the Earth Warner.
It makes sense that the black flights powers are defensive in nature.
@@decayeddivinity9916 I think Deep Breath is the only damage spell that is black flight type.
also correct me if i’m wrong but wasn’t the creation of dracthyr around the same time the dragon eye was made? if it is that’s probably were the other aspects powers came from
I'm confused. The Elementals were on the side of the Black Empire, weren't they? Feel like they should've sided with Razegeth, not with him...
If I recall correctly, the elements were enslaved to fight for the black empire, so not necessarily
I'm excited to focus on the Dragons more. I hope this fleshes out Deathwing more in game since a lot of people didn't really know who he was during Cata which bogged the story down (among other things).
Old gods or titans? What's there to debate? One has a head two arms and two legs. The other has numerous tentacles who try to whisper maddening thought into your ears. Trying to make the black empire sympathetic is going to be hard sell.
They both offer power and use others for their own wants/needs.
Their both bad, but I'd rather side with Arcane over Light or Void.
@@ArklusDryxal yeah but who doesn't
@@apacalypsagon3758 the only actual issue is that Titans and the light don't actually want free will, while without the old gods Warcraft wouldn't have even happened as there would be no dwarves, humans, gnomes, etc
They literally give free will, so that's something one can keep in mind which honestly makes it more appealing
one wants to control and suppress. other wants total destruction, death and chaos. easy choice
@@ArklusDryxal but it doesn't really feel like freedom. Just feels like doing favors for money. And why would the Titans care about the needs of those so far beneath their notice. It's like having a human try and relate to what an ant would think.
Am I the only one who finds weird how Wrathion and Ebbyssian in dragon form they speak without moving their mouths? They do not even blink ffs.
It makes more sense biologically. Birds are the closest comparisons to dragons, and they only use their larynx and tongue as opposed to changing the shape of their mouth like a human does.
just an FYI there are some books in the azure archives (above the blue oathstone) where it details the story of malygos making the stasis spell and why neltharion asked him to do it
Sorry, not sorry. Somebody had to bring it up
Ten thousand years ago superstition and the sword ruled,
It was a time of darkness, it was a world of storms, It was the age of dracthyr!
Mortal by day, warriors by night; we were betrayed by the dragons we had sworn to protect
Frozen in stone by a magic spell for ten thousand years.
Now here in Dalaran, the spell has broken and WE LIVE AGAIN!
We ARE defenders of the night. We ARE Dracthyr!
Maybe I'm not understanding right, but do we know why Neltharion needed the bracelet to control the Dracthyr? Weren't they loyal to him at the first place? It just doesn't make sense to me as why he'd need that kind of power if they were loyal already.
THis is personal interpetation; i think we can find the answer with the same reason why he locked them away when he lost his gauntlet/control. The dracthyr would have been loyal to him, but he didn't trust that. The whispers of the old gods were already going, making him paranoid, trusting no one but himself. He might not have needed the gauntlet for control, but he needed it for his personality/mind
They needed a reason why they were locked away until now with no mention and not be a menace like most locked away things.
gods i still wish they had a actual dragon race i wanna be a fire breathing lizard not a fire breathing lizard man dracthyr is probably the closed we will ever get so gotta get what one can get i guess
What happened to them ? they got freeze and forgot how to use a polearm ? they are warriors an now ranged Dps/healers ? Nobody noticed this on their team ? Fix this by making Warriors available to them !
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Happy DF eve everyone
I honestly believe Deathwing is still alive/or will be resurrected and will make a return in Dragonflight. He was not in Shadowlands, so now would be the time for a come back.
We didn't saw barely nobody on the shadow lands and doesn't means it's alive. Did you spoke with varían spirit?
I’ve never thought you’d told a boring story until this
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Ever since game of thrones I no longer like dragons with arms, legs AND wings. What wow depicts as protodragons or in general is often depicted as Wyvern is what makes most sense. Dragons with legs and their arms being their wings. Now that I think about it Protodragons suck too because of their tiny t-Rex arms.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but I whole heartedly disagree. Dragons with 4 legs and 2 wings are much cooler in my opinion. It gives them much better mobility and utility. Up until Game of Thrones, that’s how most dragons were depicted.
@@RadialNoah well most western dragons, the eastern ones don’t even have wings
@@DragonLordNight I’m from western society, so I will continue to associate dragons with my own culture, but thanks.
@@RadialNoah Check our the HotD design of Caraxes and tell me it looks better than the basic casual dragons from WoW.
As GRRM put it his dragons are more Sci-Fi cause thats "if" Dragons could develop how they most likely would look like. I understand the fantasy approach and dragons like Ancalagon are aweomse but I never again will like Dragons with 6 appendiges.
@@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind I’ve seen HotD. I don’t think World of Warcraft is the best example of dragons either. I still don’t prefer the wyvern style of dragon.
“If dragons could develop”, lol. Nothing that big is flying, let alone breathing fire hot enough to melt stone. Let’s not use “realism” as a factor here. They’re just as fantasy as the 4 legged dragon…
A dragon with 4 legs and 2 wings would easily beat a 2 winged 2 legged dragon in a fight outside of there being a massive size difference. They also move much less awkwardly on the ground, and look much more majestic on the ground and in flight.
dracthry frankenstein zombies would be freaky like their made from random colored dead dracthry body parts put back together in a bio creater machine in a mold being put back together a mad doctor forsaken made the bio creater mold machine
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I just want these stupid things to get visages that aren't elves they can't even use horde armor in the female form cause it's based originally on a human but when I first saw it I mistook it as a belf
And it's just insulting we have ebon horn as their representative who is allowed to not be an elf
*ethereal woosh* 😁
the fuck? Is the dragon really called Cinder Trash? lulw
As far as I have understood it is the "secret service" of the dracthyr that "unfortunately" has only one surviving member...
What if they have not been killed but spread across the timeways to have an eye everywhere?
In my book they are a potential candidate for aiding Nozdormu in the future as his army.
I brought a Dracthyr weyrn that were timelost in the game to my DnD group (Basically they had a Bronze Dragon Mentor, and had forewarning to the Stasis, and were trapped into a Time loop)
Sundered Flame did nothing wrong :))
If you where lied and imprisoned for 10k years, would you still want to serv the flights who did not moved one finger to help you? Doubt it
I always figured the dragons were holding back focused more on defending themselves than really killing their friends
Gonna be honest, Raszageth is probably the weakest and most boring villain they've thought up, she's basically diet zero calorie Deathwing without the backstory or charm.
But maybe that's the point, by having a lackluster villain that isn't making much impact on the story, it allows growth in other ways, no focused on the big bad as much this time round, just an annoyance we forget about right after she shows up.
Oh god, not the damn Grimtotem again! Why haven't they been destroyed yet?
Why Dractyr not get humanoid form?
Visage form is humanoid. They're scaly worgen basically.
I find it really silly that dragon visage are all about choosing what you want to look like and the players can't choose anything, you have to take the ugly ass garbage elv-ish models. Why can't I be a tauren as my visage?
Totally, I wish you could choose any race from your faction as visage form. Maybe adding some extra appearance options like horns, scales...
Why the fuck they still haven’t gotten the ability to make good cutscenes? NPCs don’t walk right.. mount movement doesn’t fit.. no unique emotes.. I really hoped after FF14 success they would push that department and strive towards improving quest cutscene cinematography
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In wow lore drakes are totally useless, Nozdormu as time aspect? Did he ever turn back time when shit happened? No. Life Aspect... Did she use her power to turn back someone alive? Malygos totally useless....
so why, if creating dragonkin that can wield the power of all 5 flights was successfully created, then why is chromatis so special? I hate the lore of this new race. It's lazily written for the sake of a new playable character and it's insulting to anyone that have actually consumed and cared about the lore of this game. What about Krassus? Sinestra? Nefarian? dw about all of them they don't matter. Chromatic dragon's? dw about those they're under the rug now, just bin 15 years of developing the history to this universe. I'd have been happier with Naga as the new race.
the story of lgbtqxyz lizard... so far
it's soooo bad...
I don't like the Retcon so far painting the titans as evil. It just doesn't go with established lore and feels like it's trying to weaken the titan's story to play up the old ones more and more as their replacements. But I guess we'll see where this story goes in the end.
Not "evil", they simply embody Order and its their top priority to stomp out excessive chaos like the Void Lords, Old Gods and in turn Elemental Lords (Ragnaros, Alakir, Neptulon etc).
That's the issue trying to put morality on beings who probably don't even know what that term means. In any mortals eyes, I'm sure the idea of being deleted at any moment because a cosmic tool for the Titans views your planet and people as corrupt would be seen as "evil". Algalon even tells us outright the Titans have had planets purged throughout the cosmos and it's as if that was completely glossed over.