It's almost like a comedian and his straight man!The sense of humor Mr.DonBailey uses while teaching valuable lessons makes this not only a great learning experience but fun as well!My compliments to Mr.Bailey and Suburban Tools!
There is something about this duo that I really enjoy, I think it's a combination of the expertise, friendliness and humor that makes it a winning combo. I also like drooling over the precise instruments and tooling demonstrated. Please keep on doing what you're doing!
I worked for Jansen Gauge, Freeland Gauge, and Summit Products (all related) years ago in Metro Detroit. We supplied the big three with production gauging equipment. I enjoyed the work. It was a very satisfying occupation. Freeland Gauge owned many "AIR" gauge patents.
I appreciate your Video on Squareness and how someone should use these types of Measuring devices the proper way. But you left out a great deal of Information, 'in my opinion'. Maybe you should've covered more about these Tools and the Tool uses so as the Layman just learning, would've benefited more from your knowledge about the use of these Tools. I just thought this might help your Video's somewhat. Well thanks for sharing your knowledge with me and all those willing to know more about how Our World Works. It is Appreciated Sir.
My woodworking teacher taught me this one. if you have a square and you want to check it: choose a flat surface, like a machine, put the square L on the surface, run your pencil along the square, and then flip it over like this: _| and follow the pencil line. If your square is square, the line will match up perfectly. If not, you will have diverging or converging lines.
Wow I just discovered this channel and couldn't be happier! I feel like I'm in school again! The way the old timer talks and explains things reeled me in. I subbed and I'm excited to learn mote
Just because it says 0 comments, I'll add one. When he asked about checking for square at different heights, it would have been a good opportunity to mention that it would be checking for flatness along the vertical plane, which is a different test, and that you check the max height for accuracy as the longer the distance the more an angle will show up, and the combination of a flatness and square check would prove actual squareness over the entire surface (being you could fluke a square test and have a hollow or proud spot half way up. But great videos either way, my requirements for squareness are closer to 10mm/m (half inch over 3 foot), but I like using the same principle and seeing how different trades do things.
Really great to see new videos and really appreciate your work to produce them. You are making a difference and educating a new generation of tool makers.
I have missed these. I am a hobby machinist with some key suburban tools. Another friend who watches these vids is a machinist and loves the content. Thank You Don!
I have a squareness tester similar to that height indicator. The trick is that the bottom plate has 3 contact points and that you can turn it by 180° and measure again. Take the average of both readings (before and after flipping the instrument by 180°) and you get squareness, no matter how not square the sliding column is, on which the dial indicator is riding....
Great to see you guys Don's always trying to keep Glen out of trouble sure would be a pleasure working for Don Bailey like your videos keep them coming thanks
In an unrelated side note, when using a dial indicator to sweep or measure something, try to set up so that the indicator tip isn't at a severe angle otherwise you'll induce a cosine error. A 60° angle on your indicator tip will induce a .005" error over .010" !! Just something to be aware of......
The positif aditude of the Dr. Toolmaker and very well naration , made me not hassitate to subsribe , well done guys. Explaining the height gauge , great job ! I´m looking forward for your upcomming video , to learn and revise my knowledge of toolmaking . Greets from the Netherlands Johny geerts
Excellent video! I wonder how many people have been checking the wrong way for years and never knew it. Hope we don't have to wait five months for another video.
One very important thing when using indicators is to make sure they don't get zeroed on or very close to the end of their travel. If you get perfect reading every time it is time to doubt your measurement! But also if in doubt, repeat your measurement - do you get the same or not? Is the variation within the tools specification for error (there is always an error margin). I've had the colouring of cleaning alcohol upset my measurements, that was a frustrating journey (using a resolution of 0.1 µm with constant pressure device). But most important, use your eyes and brain - Is your measurement reasonable? - What could cause issues, how can those be minimized? Make sure it is made within tolerances but don't split hairs if you don't need to. After all, correct measurements are the key to successful manufacturing!
Never seen or heard of a cylinder square before. I learned something fundamental. But now I have a question: How do you make a cylinder square? What is the process?
You'd think it would be a one-piece machined gauge, but its parts stuck into other parts. interesting, how are they confident that the gauge is square? i mean it has turn knobs, shafts that wear, fitting surfaces that might degrade? And how about the table surface that it's on?
Looks like you would have to perfect center the rounded bottom face of that tool and looks like sometimes he checks without the base absolutely centered but what do I know only a retired truck driver. lol
Ok, so, all you did was set your gage to oxymoron cylinder square. Assuming it was square. You would still have to check and make sure its square to the table if you are using that as "boss".
Yes, of course our surface plates, cylinder squares and all of our inspection tools are inspected, calibrated and certified according to schedule. th-cam.com/video/5oEqrJuAmaI/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/hui6pPZH36U/w-d-xo.html Thank you for watching.
Welcome back! Good to see you after such a long hiatus.
Excellent! This is fundamental, but often forgotten, or not even taught.
It's almost like a comedian and his straight man!The sense of humor Mr.DonBailey uses while teaching valuable lessons makes this not only a great learning experience but fun as well!My compliments to Mr.Bailey and Suburban Tools!
There is something about this duo that I really enjoy, I think it's a combination of the expertise, friendliness and humor that makes it a winning combo. I also like drooling over the precise instruments and tooling demonstrated. Please keep on doing what you're doing!
Yay! Another one! Can’t wait to watch. I’ve missed your Don and Glenn!
Thanks!
I check every couple days Don, so glad to see you back. Missed your videos.
I worked for Jansen Gauge, Freeland Gauge, and Summit Products (all related) years ago in Metro Detroit. We supplied the big three with production gauging equipment. I enjoyed the work. It was a very satisfying occupation. Freeland Gauge owned many "AIR" gauge patents.
I appreciate your Video on Squareness and how someone should use these types of Measuring devices the proper way. But you left out a great deal of Information, 'in my opinion'. Maybe you should've covered more about these Tools and the Tool uses so as the Layman just learning, would've benefited more from your knowledge about the use of these Tools. I just thought this might help your Video's somewhat. Well thanks for sharing your knowledge with me and all those willing to know more about how Our World Works. It is Appreciated Sir.
My woodworking teacher taught me this one. if you have a square and you want to check it:
choose a flat surface, like a machine, put the square L on the surface, run your pencil along the square, and then flip it over like this: _| and follow the pencil line. If your square is square, the line will match up perfectly. If not, you will have diverging or converging lines.
Great to see you again.
Just came across your channel. Thank you for passing on this knowledge. This is vital stuff whether people realize it or not. Subscribed.
Always a pleasure to see Mr. Don putting out another video!!!!! Thank you sir!!!
Thanks for watching!
A great demonstration of proper technique. Many of the videos on checking squareness are actually checking parallelism.
I learned something! Great demo. I've often wondered how to check squareness just as you demonstrated.
Glad it was helpful!
Please keep teaching people these practices and principles.
I'm happy to see you back again! I missed your updates.
Welcome back Don and Glenn. It's great to see you two.
Wow I just discovered this channel and couldn't be happier! I feel like I'm in school again! The way the old timer talks and explains things reeled me in. I subbed and I'm excited to learn mote
Good to see you two back and that you have not lost your sense of humour 😃
Just because it says 0 comments, I'll add one. When he asked about checking for square at different heights, it would have been a good opportunity to mention that it would be checking for flatness along the vertical plane, which is a different test, and that you check the max height for accuracy as the longer the distance the more an angle will show up, and the combination of a flatness and square check would prove actual squareness over the entire surface (being you could fluke a square test and have a hollow or proud spot half way up.
But great videos either way, my requirements for squareness are closer to 10mm/m (half inch over 3 foot), but I like using the same principle and seeing how different trades do things.
Thank you for watching!
Nice to see you back!
Thanks.
Right on thanks for demonstrating how to check perpendicularity the proper way.
Good to have you back!
Thanks for sharing!
Really great to see new videos and really appreciate your work to produce them. You are making a difference and educating a new generation of tool makers.
Glad to see you two up to your old antics. Really good info on how to properly check things vs the Glen method 😉.
Glad you enjoyed it!
More of that please. You're a worthy teacher
Nice to see yet another info packed video
I love these guys.
I have missed these. I am a hobby machinist with some key suburban tools. Another friend who watches these vids is a machinist and loves the content. Thank You Don!
Thank you for watching!
Lots of respect for working here. Getting back work after lunch, talking about what bosses want. I don’t see a lot of talk like that nowadays
i wonder why educational programs are no longer on TV ? great job lads it gets you thinking
First time watching, subbed. Thank you guys for these, it'll help teaching many
Soo good to see you well Don.
Thank you for passing on your knowledge.
Thank you kindly
I have a squareness tester similar to that height indicator.
The trick is that the bottom plate has 3 contact points and that you can turn it by 180° and measure again.
Take the average of both readings (before and after flipping the instrument by 180°) and you get squareness, no matter how not square the sliding column is, on which the dial indicator is riding....
I like older men educating the younger ones ☺️. Thanks a lot.
Glad to see you back doing videos Don!
I love this, and this channel!
Great to see you guys Don's always trying to keep Glen out of trouble sure would be a pleasure working for Don Bailey like your videos keep them coming thanks
Thanks 👍
👍 thanks for some more gold nuggets of tool making Me. Bailey! Always good to see you!
In an unrelated side note, when using a dial indicator to sweep or measure something, try to set up so that the indicator tip isn't at a severe angle otherwise you'll induce a cosine error. A 60° angle on your indicator tip will induce a .005" error over .010" !! Just something to be aware of......
Good point (pun intended), Don explains it here.
th-cam.com/video/6PpKESSjJAY/w-d-xo.html
Best explanation on this subject I have even seen. Thank you.
Thank you!
I appreciate the time and effort you put into the making of these videos. Good job, always a pleasure to watch.
Glad to see you making videos still.
Hi Don: GLAD to see you back. I always enjoy your insight and videos.
Glad to hear it
Great instruction for checking squareness
Glad you liked it!
The positif aditude of the Dr. Toolmaker and very well naration , made me not hassitate to subsribe , well done guys.
Explaining the height gauge , great job !
I´m looking forward for your upcomming video , to learn and revise my knowledge of toolmaking .
Greets from the Netherlands
Johny geerts
good to see you again Mr Bailey
Good to see you back 🇦🇺
So glad you guys are back. How I wish I could come work for you. I would love to be an asset on your team.
Excellent video! I wonder how many people have been checking the wrong way for years and never knew it. Hope we don't have to wait five months for another video.
Exactly!
Happy to see you back
Great info!
Great bit of teaching!
Good to see you are doing well.
I'm glad to see you guys back again. These videos boost the motivation of the machinist that lives in my mind :)
One very important thing when using indicators is to make sure they don't get zeroed on or very close to the end of their travel.
If you get perfect reading every time it is time to doubt your measurement!
But also if in doubt, repeat your measurement - do you get the same or not? Is the variation within the tools specification for error (there is always an error margin).
I've had the colouring of cleaning alcohol upset my measurements, that was a frustrating journey (using a resolution of 0.1 µm with constant pressure device).
But most important, use your eyes and brain
- Is your measurement reasonable?
- What could cause issues, how can those be minimized?
Make sure it is made within tolerances but don't split hairs if you don't need to.
After all, correct measurements are the key to successful manufacturing!
Thank you for watching!
Great to see you back, thanks for sharing
I'm so pleased to see a video from you both. God bless, and hope your both well. 👍
Glade to see another video. Was wondering when we would get another.
Welcome back Don & Glen! Glad you guys are doing ok.
All is well, thank you.
We want more teachers like you
Great veadio sir
Thanks for watching!
Good to see you back
Thanks Don! I really like these kind of videos. Please do more :)
Thanks, stay tuned!
Thanks for another post!
Our pleasure!
Always a great day when I see a new vid w the infamous Mr. Don Bailey.
It was good to see you too again!! Stay well.
Thanks, you too!
Love the videos! Keep them coming
Hi Don good to see you guys back.
Great to see you guys again! As always a great video!
Thanks!
Great info
Glad you think so!
Welcome back. Always like your content!
Much appreciated!
Aw dang i subscribed with a smile.
Awesome simple explanations. Thanks for the video!
Glad it was helpful!
Never seen or heard of a cylinder square before. I learned something fundamental. But now I have a question:
How do you make a cylinder square? What is the process?
This video explains the process to some extent. th-cam.com/video/m4mH120Lf68/w-d-xo.html.
Don. Welcome Back!
The proper way to ensure it's square is to check the cylinder square at 180 degrees to make sure the cylinder square is sitting flat on the granite
Yes, Don explains that in this video. th-cam.com/video/m4mH120Lf68/w-d-xo.html
You'd think it would be a one-piece machined gauge, but its parts stuck into other parts. interesting, how are they confident that the gauge is square? i mean it has turn knobs, shafts that wear, fitting surfaces that might degrade? And how about the table surface that it's on?
We've missed you guys!
Thank you for your kind words.
I learnt a lot from you don. Good to see another video.
Thanks 👍
Would like to see more jig grinding content when you have time.
Thank you for the suggestion!
Nice to hear (and see!) from you again in this harsh times... Also, very good content as always!
Regards from Italy 🙂
Thank you so much!
Nice to see you back Don
Thank you.
Metrology on display.
Good to see you guys again 👍🏻
Very informative ty.
As Scotty (of Star Trek fame) once said in a scene, "Use the right tool for the job!" (or words to that effect).
Good stuff thanks
Master.
Nice to see you boys back!
Thanks!
Thanks for taking the time to post a new video. Charles
Our pleasure!
Thanks yet again to take the care and attention to share the knowledge - legendary status achieved
Frigging kid tool maker!😅🤣😂 Great video!
Nice to see you both, it's been awhile. Cheers.
Thank you!
Awesome!
Good information as always thanks for the video.
Looks like you would have to perfect center the rounded bottom face of that tool and looks like sometimes he checks without the base absolutely centered but what do I know only a retired truck driver. lol
👍
Well I learned something new. Thank you. 👍
Glad to help.
Ok, so, all you did was set your gage to oxymoron cylinder square. Assuming it was square. You would still have to check and make sure its square to the table if you are using that as "boss".
Yes, of course our surface plates, cylinder squares and all of our inspection tools are inspected, calibrated and certified according to schedule.
th-cam.com/video/5oEqrJuAmaI/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/hui6pPZH36U/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching.
Awww shucks. Thanks!
good job.