It was a really good idea to give us a sympathetic character on the law enforcement side. It's honestly always been my opinion that in many ways the Bourne trilogy is the /best/ example of an action movie done right.
Seen this the first week it came out in the cinema. That scene is one of those rare (amazing) times everyone in the cinema audibly gasped and then laughed at the beauty of it!
"She's standing right next to you." A badass, killer line. "You look tired." The EXACT SAME BIT from Pam's perspective, yet it still totally works haha. Maybe it's just funny because of the audacity of the filmmakers :P
What I feel people don't talk enough about this story, usually because they focus on the action and the shaky-cam debate, is how this movie plays with the cliché of "assassin seeking revenge for the death of his beloved", because for me this is not a revenge story, but a story about grief. Sure, Bourne seeks justice for Marie's death, but at the same time he is aware that even if he kills those responsibles, nothing will return her it to him. That's why he doesn't kill Brian Cox, that's why the movie doesnt makes a whole show about the death of Karl Urban or the arrest of the Russian, of course the fact that they got what they deserved is important but not for Jason, once he managed to clean up his name, his goal was to understand the harm he did to another person in his time with Treadstone and to give his victim's daughter the minimum of peace he can give her with the truth.
well-said. This movie had nothing to do with the book, yet the writers/directors provided a great story like you described that made it really moving. Incredibly nuanced action thriller.
The Bourne trilogy always stood out to me, even as a kid. Yeah, its got pulse-pounding action and nail-biting thrills, but the movies have more soul than people give them credit for.
It's crazy, the shaky-cam never bothered me once in these movies (and I've re-watched the first two countless times). It's interesting to see George struggle with it through the whole movie lol.
@@SuperDimson Yeah I don’t know if there’s a term for it but it’s always a bummer when a movie that pioneers something winds up feeling cliche when people go back and watch it later on because it’s become so commonplace (and often not done as well lol).
I've a feeling that some people are more susceptible to the shaky-cam issue than others. I genuinely don't notice it. Maybe it's similar to a type of motion sickness?
'That building' is the TV tower in Berlin. I had dinner once inside of the 'bubble'. The outer floor in the restaurant isn't fixed, it's actually moving along the windows so it feels like the city is moving around you and you can look into all directions every couple of minutes. Pretty cool stuff.
@@danilopapais1464 Cologne had one too, but they closed it many years ago. Not sure if they have ever reopened it, but I don't think so, since it was safety related.
I had dinner there too with some friends on a trip. Worst restaurant experience in my life. Bad food and even worse service. They literally forgot about us so we had to order more drinks for the food and we got no compensation.
This was one of the best examples of a movie keeping secrets. Marie’s actor had to show up at all the pre-release interviews, and say nothing. When the movie finally dropped, and her character died 30seconds into the film, people were freaked out.
@@Shimin2 - This is the most polite anyone has been, while objecting to my handle. Granted, there are only two data points, but they’re both from this week. Still, kudos for not devolving into raging name-calling. You make the world ever so slightly better.
As much as I want to bully shimin for being too sensitive, It’s hard to when it’s such a genuine and polite way of being offended. Harden up.. but also keep being exactly who you are 🫡
Pamela Landy is *such* a good character, and Joan Allen did a great job playing her. I absolutely love it when an antagonist is portrayed as both very competent and not actually a villain, like Pam Landy here, or Gerard in The Fugitive. I just feel like it adds an interesting element to a movie when there's someone working against the hero who isn't a bad guy and you want to see them "win" almost as much as you want to see the hero win.
The original three books were written in the 80s, but they are very different at their core. They have some similar character names and it begins with amnesia causing the mystery, but everything else is totally different. I won't say what in case you want to read the books, which are quite good. Robert Ludlum wrote some great agent books, but passed before the movies came out. Following the success of the movies other writers cranked out a bunch more books, but they felt nothing like the original book characters. They were just filler for more movies. I only read a couple of those before quitting.
Yeah, somewhere between a third of the way and halfway into the first book, you're in a very different story, although the beginning is similar. After that, the plots just continue to diverge. Books 2 and 3 have no relationship to their namesake films,whatsoever. I don't know anything about Eric Lustbader's continuation novels. Are they true to Ludlum's books or do they draw in elements from the films?
this series up to Ultimatum is a perfect example of taking inspiration from the source material (in this case, just the titles) but making the series completely its own original storytelling and doing a great job with it.
@@malcolmrowe9003 Lustbader was a friend and rival of Ludlum's; rivals because tthey both wrote spy, conspiracy focused novels. Also, they both had ties to the intelligence world before they started writing. I remember hearing around the time that Lustbader took on the series that Ludlum at the very least had ideas for a 4th book, and may have already starting writting before he passed. Ludlum's estate reached out to Lustbader and asked that he pick up where Ludlum left off, so his books have more to do with Ludlum's original triology than they do the movies. The first of Lustbader's Bourne books (the Bourne Legacy) has zero crossover with the the movie by the same name.
I read a couple of the original Bourne novels back when they came out, but didn’t have much recollection of them, so recently I went back to try them out. I have to say that the movies are much more effective than the novels. The latter seem locked in the Cold War / post-Vietnam era in a way that the movies break free from.
I swear, two of the main reasons I LOVE your channel are the thumbnails - ain’t no one better in the business - and Simone’s unpredictable intros, you never know what you’re gonna get and its a rare moment when I understand anything She’s saying 😅😂😆 Love you guys, thanks for being epic and sharing your awesome with us all ❤ /Lizz
No one is better than Julia Stiles at acting pants-pissingly terrified. She does it in season 6 of Dexter also.. The pink payphone is Deutches Telekom, the national phone company of Germany... you would recognize them as T-Mobile now, still rocking the same hot pink color scheme.
I love that you brought up film #1's joke about how Marie just walked in and asked for the paperwork, instead of doing all the spy stuff Bourne had told her to do. That's one of my favorite parts of the first film - it's so funny and unexpected. And true! Keep it simple. Lol.
I'm glad you liked it despite the shaky cam, George! I'm curious about how you'll feel about the third movie! I think it pulls this style off much better and with less headache. Doug Liman, the director of the first Bourne movie, said that the chase scene in that one is obviously nonsensical for a person who knows the locales irl.
Personally, I felt like the third one was waaayyy more egregious with the shaky cam. It's still a good movie, I'm not saying otherwise. But, hoo-boy, the camera seems like it's attached to a paint shaker.
Fun fact: the movie was filmed nearly in reverse. All the Russia scenes were done first and wrapped up filming in India. In summary why Bourne's action works under Greengrass's direction: - wide angle shots to show characters and environments of the fights - the impact of weapons/hits are CENTERED in the frame, providing focus - every hit, block, or impact is fully registered and shown before cutting to another shot - handheld camera is to bring the audience into the experience of a spy thriller and heighten the tension/intensity of the story environment. There's nothing wrong with using a still camera or shaky camera for filming action, but you have to do right to make either work. Bourne does shaky right, most don't.
Yes! I'm sure I remember reading an interview with one of the producers on Casino Royale, where they said that the Bourne Identity really shook them up a bit and made them reconsider how the rebooted Bond should feel to the audience. For that alone, the Bourne movies deserve credit!
This one is my favorite too. The plot is satisfying, the set-pieces are great, and most importantly to me, the scene where he confesses to the Russian girl was so moving. That is where Bourne reclaimed his humanity. (I didn't like the third film as much because it started to make Bourne look too much like a superhero. And the final one with Matt Damon was the worst of all -- I thought the Jeremy Renner one was better than that.)
@@TheJrr71 Absolutely! The best thing to happen to James Bond was Jason Bourne. Die Another Day was so ridiculous. This came out after, and then we got Casino Royale.
I think I agree. My favorite part of the Bourne films is that Borne's "power level" changes (relative to everyone else) in EACH film! And in THIS one, he is at his MOST "powerful" compared to those he is fighting. (Minor Spoiler) I like that in the later one he is more the "aging, declining, grizzled veteran" battling younger, healthier, fresher opponents with the same skills. It changes the "tension level" for each movie IMO.
14:24 "It's interesting because the camera is fast and shaky but you can still see the choreography." Because there's actually a point to Greengrass' shaky cam, he's not just doing it as a gimmick or shortcut like lesser directors. Gareth Evans (director of the Raid franchise) IMO refines this type of direction to its ultimate extent.
In Russia, a black sedan with a blue light is a sign of power / friends, not police. People with the right connections have them and they essentially function above the law.
When it comes to how realistic travel is in the movies, I like to call it Hollywood Geography. I actually got to work on a film here in Ireland a few years ago, and we did manage to keep almost all of the travel correct and in sequence, except for a few scenes where we moved a signpost or two :) :)
In "True Lies" they're supposed to be in DC, and the big horse-chase scene starts in legit Georgetown DC, but then that bathroom was obviously a set, and then he chases him into *The Westin Bonneventure* in *Los Angeles.* (Because as everyone who lives in DC knows, there's no skyscrapers because the monument has to be visible from all parts of the city)
The building with the ball ist the Berlin TV tower. Build in eastern Berlin / East Germany. (At the time of the movie the wall between east and west was gone already.)
25:20 George, in the military, especially in the field, you can pack a wound with dirt. You need to stop the bleeding before you lose to much blood which will then start a whole chain of other bad things for your body. He was just trying to stop the bleeding ASAP! Cheers and love all your reactions!
Fun Fact: To give this movie its gritty, documentary-style appearance, director Paul Greengrass used mostly handheld cameras and a muted color palette. Paul Greengrass also made sure to avoid computer graphics at all costs and all of the stunts shown in the movie were achieved practically. Also, the Bourne movies are by far the most realistic and gritty in their genre. He is amazing at what he does, but not made out to be super human, when he gets hurt you really feel it.
This is one of my all time favorite movies. Captain America Winter Soldier is my favorite Marvel movie of all only because it reminds me of Bourne a bit
Don't know if it has been answered before, but regarding George's question about the signs: It's essentially a demonstration for better education. The sign in the front says "more stupid for everyone", written with deliberate spelling mistakes. The one in the background says "... for education" up top, and I can't read the bottom line, because it's cropped. the first word is "not".
The first sign says "Meer dumm für Alle" ... which means "more dumb for everybody" but is written incorrectly (Meer = sea but it is very close to the german word for more, which is "mehr" ... both are pronounced the same and the latter is also a popular spelling mistake kids make). The second is a bit trickier. I think it says "Geld für Bildung und nicht für Rüstung", which translates to "Money for education and not for armaments". So it is a protest for more money for education. I hope that helps. :)
17:56 To those who speak German, that was actually briefly foreshadowed: when he arrived in Berlin and followed Landy, there was a poster calling for a "Demonstration", which is what Germans call a protest march. So he saw that sign and knew where to send Nikki.
I am so glad that you just did not guess what the movie was all about and left it at that at the beginning. George's dad jokes were non stop and personally, I am all for it. I can't wait for you to get to the third installment. Same shaky cam but with an even stronger storyline which merges with this movie in a way I had never seen before. You'll definitely enjoy it.
German Telephone cells used to be Yellow in the past until the providing Company changed. Until cellphones got overwhelmingly prominent, Public telephones were indeed almost all Pink between these periods. The „Lollipopbuilding“ is the Fernsehturm (Television Tower) in mid Berlin. Im Not sure about it, but I believe to remember, there is a tourist center up there with a restaurant. Very famous Landmark here.
The Building in the distance (the lollipop) was the Berlin TV Tower, a broadcast tower. There are several like this across germanies bigger cities. Also the Pink Payphones are the old ones hosted by Telekom, whos Brandcolor is Magenta. The Signs say: Mehr Dumm für Alle (More stupid for everybody) and [...] für Bildung nicht für [...] ([...] for education not for [...] It's a demonstration against G8 I think, which was the law to shorten public schooling from 9/13 to 8/ 12 years. (I think that lines up with when this movie was shot)
@@SebastianBeckerPhoto The yellow ones have been around since forever... yellow because Deutsche Post operates them. The magenta Telekom ones in the 90´s is correct.
This is one of the only series where the shaky cam doesn't bother me. For me it adds to the experience because it's supposed to feel frantic and gritty. You can also always tell what's happening, and it never uses shaky cam to cover up bad action scenes. This movie and Ultimatum actually use it right IMO. So many films tried to copy this style after the fact and none of them get it right, which is why there is a stigma against it.
I agree, I thought Paul Greengrass was the only one who actually knew what he was doing with shaky cam. I was able to follow everything and not get nauseous. Other movies copied the style but not the actual directing skill. FWIW I do prefer the Hong Kong style of locking the camera down for fight scenes, but when shaky cam is a deliberate stylistic choice, then it should be done like in this movie.
These movies did it well. Others used shaky can and fast cuts to hide multiple takes and increase the energy, but the Bourne movies used it to make the action feel improvised. The action is still legible despite the shake because the angle choices focused on the important elements and cuts were motivated. They did it right.
For Simone. The building is the Berlin Fernsehturm (engl. Television tower). It is a sightseeing point in Berlin, has a restaurant and it is spinning in slow motion. So you can sit down an see whole Berlin. One of the highest points in Berlin. He is in the middle of Berlin on the Alexanderplatz. Sign Translations for George "Meer Dumm für alle" is an wrong scripting text. It means "more dump for all" but the first word is wrong and shows "sea dump for all". Mehr = more and Meer = sea/ocean "Entdecke die (Un)möglichkeiten - 5 Profs für 2000 Studenten" => Discover the (im)possibilities - 5 Professors for 2000 students. Bildung ist keine Ware => Education is not a ware I hope it was helpful.
That lollipop building is the Berliner Fernsehturm (Berlin TV Tower) and the demonstration was about good education for everyone. 17:47 says 'more stupid for everyone' but the more is spelled wrong on purpose - more in german is 'Mehr', but they spelled it 'Meer' which means sea.
I'm the same as Simone I think. There are very few movies I've had problems with shaky cam for. The only one I can think of is Batman Begins but that was only because you literally couldn't see anything that was happening and that was apparently the point. Thankfully Nolan abandoned that in Dark Knight. But I never even noticed the shaky cam in any Bourne movies.
Movie 1 is loosely based on the first book but with a significant villain (Ilich Ramírez (Carlos the Jackal) Sánchez) missing. Movies 2 and 3 have nothing to do with the books. Book 2 was set in China, and book 3 was a conclusion to book 1. The author, Robert Ludlum didn't want to write the sequals which is why book two is a completely different story to book 1. And there was also a 2 episode TV show (or a 3 hour TV movie) in 1988 with Richard Chamberlin.
Rolled up magazines (when rolled tightly) can be very effective weapons. During martial arts demonstrations, I used to break boards with a rolled up magazine. Seriously.
I can confirm your suspicion about Hollywood city geography. Bourne going around in the city of Berlin on foot makes sense inasmuch as being truly in the same city, but some transitions cannot be made without him having the powers of the movie Jumper.
"That building" is the Berlin Fernsehturm (TV-tower). It's one of two tv transmitters in Berlin (the other being the "Funkturm" in the former West-Berlin) and it features a rotating restaurant inside the Sphere (If I remember correctly it roates once every 60 Minutes). And yes, the payphnes where pink, as that is the brand color of the operator "Deutsche Telekom".
There's a movie that was shot in the city I lived in for 20 years: Chico, CA. I definitely recognized the location when the actors were traveling through the downtown area.
Not this particular movie, but they ask Clint Eastwood about the use of "shaky cam" he wasn't even being snarky but he said "I don't need to use it. I know how to direct action scene"
@Txt_me_at_CineBinge_React I remember it was a roundtable discussion about film direction and Eastwood (to paraphrase I can't remember the exact quote) was a part of the panel. He enjoyed the Hitchcock school of film direction Hitchcock believed that the audience should never see the presence of a camera. The films were like stage productions and the audience was sitting out in the theater. Looking in on scenes or acts of a story in their theater of the mind. Eastwood's point was you don't use the camera to tell the story. If you use it correctly, you're not even aware of the camera. Obviously shaky cam goes contrary to this philosophy. As you very aware, there's a camera involved. It takes you as a participant out of the story and in turn makes your perceptions of that very aware camera "play" and defeats the purpose of a well-directed movie.
25:52 Well speaking from experience; They filmed a TV show in my hometown in Canada. (Newfoundland) and most of the people in the show spoke with a British accent.. and if you know us, we are far closer to Irish. In the wide shots, while they did show some landmarks, they missed the mark for the most part with geographical knowledge. They said at one point, "Let's talk at the 7/11", and we don't have those stores in our province. It is the small details like that that are missed. They get it 85% right, but if they actually lived there, they'd realize the other 15% sticks out like a sore thumb.
That payphone wasn't pink, it was magenta! That's the brand color of Deutsche Telekom, who were operating public payphones at the time. You may know them as T-Mobile.
At 26:10 when you are talking about the scenery. I dont know about this movie but i used to work at a summer camp where one of the Friday the 13th movies was filmed and it absolutely made no sense. Btw we watched that movie at the camp on friday the 13th
Fun fact: the scenes in Berlin were filmed on location at the Alexanderplatz (where the demonstration is held). Later in the movie they use the exact same location (just a different camera angle) for the scenes in Moscow.
The Lolipopbuilding is Berlins Fernsehturm (TV-Tower) the ball contains a restaurant with a revolving floor (1 Rotation/Hour), that allows guests to take in a 360 view while eating. The dark church is the Kirche am Südstern (church at the southern star) thus named after the Südstern square, named as such because it has 7 roads meeting there. The protest signs: foreground "more stupid for all" (deliberately in bad german and misspelled); background "Money for education, not for arms"
I saw it in cinema when it came out and after the car chase in the tunnel a guy next to me said: I'm not feeling so well 🙂. I don't like the super shaky cam and super fast cuts either.
Your reactions are becoming my favorites. I love the intro phrases from Simone. Even with that being said, I would not describe myself as a huge fan, I would need to gain about 70 more pounds to say that, but at 6 foot 220 I can say I am a big fan.
The chase scene geography here is really funny because they start in Moscow and finish in Berlin! 😁 They shot the tunnel scenes in the Tiergarten tunnel underneath central Berlin. It was still under construction at the time and not yet open to traffic. Also some other Moscow scenes were actually filmed in Berlin (Airport scene, the night club exterior, Bourne asking the elderly woman for the Neski girl and subsequently getting shot by Karl Urban from the bridge and the arrest at the end). Also the scenes set in Munich (exploding house) were done in Berlin, I went there and had a look at that house, it was the show house for some new housing developments...looked pretty unscathed when I was there...kudos to movie effects! 🙂2 of my classmates were extras for the protest scenes at Alexanderplatz, they had to stand around all night in the freezing cold until the scene was set up...and it didn't make it into the final movie! The protests by students were supposed to be for public education reforms and were actually happening for real during the time they filmed in Berlin, so they incorporated the idea into the script. Meta moment: I watched this movie in the same cinema ("CUBIX") which can be seen at 17:38 in the background!
George, what you said about the car chases is exactly right. Belfast where I live has recently been used as the location for a few police shows and in those car chases I am constantly shouting at the tv. They will be at one side of the city turn left and be in a completely different part of the city, then turn again and be back where they started, This happens several times during a chase sequence using the same 2 or 3 roads that were closed for filming creating a long chase sequence but in rel space only covered 3 or 4 streets.
I think the shaky cam is also meant to approximate Bourne's perspective, that even through chaos and random action, his mind can still calculate a strategy. That said, if it's tough for you to watch it, it can be struggle to get around
The TV Tower on Alexanderplatz is Berlin's most prominent landmark and the tallest building in Germany. Its steel sphere contains an observation platform and a gourmet restaurant.
I don't care what Universal says, Bourne is a trilogy. The third film is a perfect ending, and everything that comes after really just steps on that. Ultimatum deals with all the loose ends, and satisfyingly concludes Jason Bourne's arc.
12:57 that is the Television Tower on Alexanderplatz here in Berlin (Germany) 17:48 the front sign has the words "Sea For All Supid" on it... it seems there is abit missing or it is just random writing. The second sign says also nonsense "For Picture Not" the rest is not readable. I suspect it means "Geld für Bildung, nicht für ..." --> Money for Education, not for ... whatever then is standing there. 18:55 the article says in headline: murder, then suicide.
12:48 As you probably figured out the tower is Fernsehterm Berlin, a television tower with a restaurant and observation tower built by the East German government between 1965 and 1969.
That tower is the TV Tower next to Alexanderplatz in Berlin. In the ball structure there is a revolving restaurant. I had breakfast up there when I last visited and had wonderful views.
I kept thinking Karl Urban's contact, the dude with the glasses, looked familiar. Turns out he was Rasputin in Hellboy and the bad guy's lawyer in Blade 2! Man has range.
Pam Landy (Joan Allen) is the best kind of nemesis -- she starts off hunting Bourne but is smart enough to slowly figure out that something is wrong and eventually sides with him. Kind of like Tommy Lee Jones in "The Fugitive." We don't see that character enough in movies because they're so much harder to write and direct.
23:40 "You're going to try to call a taxi you're going to be on hold for an hour" George: "Well the movie IS an hour and fourty minutes." I am all here for out-of-control George! 😂😂😂 Btw, 'that building' is the Berliner Fernsehturm. It is a radio and tv tower that also has an observatory, bar, and revolving restaurant.
25:51 that happened in "Marathon Man." During a chase scene, audiences who lived in the city where it was filmed were laughing about the edits. A guy would turn a corner and suddenly be twenty blocks away in the next shot.
If I thought George read these comments I'd say "Celeborn" from LOTR is pronounced with a hard C--like a K--in Celeborn. But who has time for such silliness.
In Sleepless in Seattle (my home town), when Meg Ryan was following Tom Hanks and his son in the boat...the boat ride made "some" geographical sense...it was far too long a distance for that boat in an afternoon..but her chances of following by car was zero...
17:47 The sign in the front says “Moar dumb for everybody”, the one in the back something about education. Looks like it’s meant to be a student protest.
I love how much fun you two are having watching movies. Shaky cam was exactly why Greengrass was hired to direct. It wasn't a thing until he started doing it. Of course, when a movie franchise is successful, other filmmakers try to emulate what that franchise did without knowing why it was successful in the first place. The shaky cam isn't constant either. The fights and chases are intercut with static camera shots so you can still keep track of what is happening, while conveying the chaos that's ensuing.
Speaking of movie’s with car screens that don’t make sense. In the Hangover when they get their tuxedos on the freeway, they’re driving on the 210 freeway in Southern California. However, their driving East and technically back to Vegas.
I can recall a fun car chase from the old Chuck Norris film 'The Delta Force' (one of my personal favourite cheesy action films) where he and another guy try to outrun some enemy army vehicles while driving a ricky old panel van. Somehow, despite the chase happening in what seems like a small district in a city somewhere in the middle east, they manage to hit several of the Hollywood car chase tropes, eg. a vehicle hits a fruit stand, they run through on old phone/power box thing (replacing the usual plane of glass), they drive down a series of bumpy steps, knock somebody's car door off and even manage to find a big pile of water bottles in the back of a truck to hit. Great film with a spectacularly heroic soundtrack. :)
The movie Hallam Foe is shot in Edinburgh and I know the city well enough, that the bit where he works in kitchen, he enters one hotel (at one part of the city) to go to work, and leaves work onto the street the other side of the city that happens to have a similar sized hotel on it 😁
Obviously it can cause problems for some people, but the method Greengrass et al. employed to make it happen in this and ‘Ultimatum’, make it easily the cleanest example of shaky cam.
Yeah sometimes it can be a bit much for me too but I don’t mind because there’s at least a motivation to it and Greengrass is a competent filmmaker. Unfortunately a lot of hacks try and copy it to just cover up that their fight choreography is non existent lol.
Joan Allen was exactly what the trilogy needed. She does such a good job as Pamela Landy and makes Supremacy and Ultimatum that much better.
Joan Allen against David Strathairn in Ultimatum is high class.
It was a really good idea to give us a sympathetic character on the law enforcement side. It's honestly always been my opinion that in many ways the Bourne trilogy is the /best/ example of an action movie done right.
Get some rest, Pam. You look tired.
@@atomicNoodle por isso o ultimato foi eleito o melhor filme de ação do seu ano
How bout not talk about future movies???
"Get some rest, Pam... you look tired." Love that EVERY TIME.
The amazing thing is that if you've seen 3, that scene gets SO MUCH BETTER when you watch 2 again.
Straight to Moby's Extreme Ways. Not enough electronic music in films these days.
Seen this the first week it came out in the cinema. That scene is one of those rare (amazing) times everyone in the cinema audibly gasped and then laughed at the beauty of it!
Her partner before bed every night.
"She's standing right next to you." A badass, killer line.
"You look tired." The EXACT SAME BIT from Pam's perspective, yet it still totally works haha. Maybe it's just funny because of the audacity of the filmmakers :P
What I feel people don't talk enough about this story, usually because they focus on the action and the shaky-cam debate, is how this movie plays with the cliché of "assassin seeking revenge for the death of his beloved", because for me this is not a revenge story, but a story about grief. Sure, Bourne seeks justice for Marie's death, but at the same time he is aware that even if he kills those responsibles, nothing will return her it to him. That's why he doesn't kill Brian Cox, that's why the movie doesnt makes a whole show about the death of Karl Urban or the arrest of the Russian, of course the fact that they got what they deserved is important but not for Jason, once he managed to clean up his name, his goal was to understand the harm he did to another person in his time with Treadstone and to give his victim's daughter the minimum of peace he can give her with the truth.
well-said. This movie had nothing to do with the book, yet the writers/directors provided a great story like you described that made it really moving. Incredibly nuanced action thriller.
The Bourne trilogy always stood out to me, even as a kid. Yeah, its got pulse-pounding action and nail-biting thrills, but the movies have more soul than people give them credit for.
Tbf it's hard to pay attention to anything with the camera shaking so much.
It's crazy, the shaky-cam never bothered me once in these movies (and I've re-watched the first two countless times). It's interesting to see George struggle with it through the whole movie lol.
I think he and most people now are just conditioned to be bothered by it because of all the movies after Bourne that used it poorly.
@@SuperDimson I agree.
@@SuperDimson Yeah I don’t know if there’s a term for it but it’s always a bummer when a movie that pioneers something winds up feeling cliche when people go back and watch it later on because it’s become so commonplace (and often not done as well lol).
I've a feeling that some people are more susceptible to the shaky-cam issue than others. I genuinely don't notice it. Maybe it's similar to a type of motion sickness?
Similar here. It actually works for me but I understand why others might dislike it.
'That building' is the TV tower in Berlin. I had dinner once inside of the 'bubble'. The outer floor in the restaurant isn't fixed, it's actually moving along the windows so it feels like the city is moving around you and you can look into all directions every couple of minutes. Pretty cool stuff.
We have those towers in multiple cities, even here in Hamburg.
@@danilopapais1464 Cologne had one too, but they closed it many years ago. Not sure if they have ever reopened it, but I don't think so, since it was safety related.
This building is so iconic for people who lived in cold ward era... was in TV all the time.
I had dinner there too with some friends on a trip. Worst restaurant experience in my life. Bad food and even worse service. They literally forgot about us so we had to order more drinks for the food and we got no compensation.
@@dyseskytten1I've been there 3 times. Once for lunch and twice for dinner. All 3 times good service and food.
Mvh. TMGskytten
" She's competent. She's just been given the wrong information! " Sounds like George was describing Simone, during a reaction video! :)
I’d hardly say she’s competent, she’s like a child with Tourette’s.
This was one of the best examples of a movie keeping secrets. Marie’s actor had to show up at all the pre-release interviews, and say nothing. When the movie finally dropped, and her character died 30seconds into the film, people were freaked out.
Please consider changing your nick, as the current one is tasteless.
@@Shimin2 - This is the most polite anyone has been, while objecting to my handle. Granted, there are only two data points, but they’re both from this week. Still, kudos for not devolving into raging name-calling. You make the world ever so slightly better.
As much as I want to bully shimin for being too sensitive, It’s hard to when it’s such a genuine and polite way of being offended.
Harden up.. but also keep being exactly who you are 🫡
She's standing right next to you is my favorite line and scene in the whole movie!
Bourne supremacy indeed.
Pamela Landy is *such* a good character, and Joan Allen did a great job playing her. I absolutely love it when an antagonist is portrayed as both very competent and not actually a villain, like Pam Landy here, or Gerard in The Fugitive. I just feel like it adds an interesting element to a movie when there's someone working against the hero who isn't a bad guy and you want to see them "win" almost as much as you want to see the hero win.
Detective Finch in V for Vendetta is another one I love in this category
The original three books were written in the 80s, but they are very different at their core. They have some similar character names and it begins with amnesia causing the mystery, but everything else is totally different. I won't say what in case you want to read the books, which are quite good. Robert Ludlum wrote some great agent books, but passed before the movies came out. Following the success of the movies other writers cranked out a bunch more books, but they felt nothing like the original book characters. They were just filler for more movies. I only read a couple of those before quitting.
Yeah, somewhere between a third of the way and halfway into the first book, you're in a very different story, although the beginning is similar. After that, the plots just continue to diverge. Books 2 and 3 have no relationship to their namesake films,whatsoever. I don't know anything about Eric Lustbader's continuation novels. Are they true to Ludlum's books or do they draw in elements from the films?
this series up to Ultimatum is a perfect example of taking inspiration from the source material (in this case, just the titles) but making the series completely its own original storytelling and doing a great job with it.
@@malcolmrowe9003 Lustbader was a friend and rival of Ludlum's; rivals because tthey both wrote spy, conspiracy focused novels. Also, they both had ties to the intelligence world before they started writing. I remember hearing around the time that Lustbader took on the series that Ludlum at the very least had ideas for a 4th book, and may have already starting writting before he passed. Ludlum's estate reached out to Lustbader and asked that he pick up where Ludlum left off, so his books have more to do with Ludlum's original triology than they do the movies. The first of Lustbader's Bourne books (the Bourne Legacy) has zero crossover with the the movie by the same name.
I read a couple of the original Bourne novels back when they came out, but didn’t have much recollection of them, so recently I went back to try them out. I have to say that the movies are much more effective than the novels. The latter seem locked in the Cold War / post-Vietnam era in a way that the movies break free from.
@ADifferentVibe How is Supremacy anything like the book? The book is literally about two Jason Bournes and showing which is the supreme assassin.
I swear, two of the main reasons I LOVE your channel are the thumbnails - ain’t no one better in the business - and Simone’s unpredictable intros, you never know what you’re gonna get and its a rare moment when I understand anything She’s saying 😅😂😆
Love you guys, thanks for being epic and sharing your awesome with us all ❤
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I'm like Simone. I fund even notice it because I'm so focused on what's happening in the movie. I only noticed it now because George pointed it out.
what the hell is fund (in this context anyway)??
I fund even notice? Ok.. 🙉
@@victorramsey5575are you being dense on purpose?
Don't even notice
Same. Never had any trouble figuring out what was going on
No one is better than Julia Stiles at acting pants-pissingly terrified. She does it in season 6 of Dexter also..
The pink payphone is Deutches Telekom, the national phone company of Germany... you would recognize them as T-Mobile now, still rocking the same hot pink color scheme.
I love that you brought up film #1's joke about how Marie just walked in and asked for the paperwork, instead of doing all the spy stuff Bourne had told her to do. That's one of my favorite parts of the first film - it's so funny and unexpected. And true! Keep it simple. Lol.
Also realistic, with a bored young clerk helping a pretty girl.
I'm glad you liked it despite the shaky cam, George! I'm curious about how you'll feel about the third movie! I think it pulls this style off much better and with less headache.
Doug Liman, the director of the first Bourne movie, said that the chase scene in that one is obviously nonsensical for a person who knows the locales irl.
Personally, I felt like the third one was waaayyy more egregious with the shaky cam. It's still a good movie, I'm not saying otherwise. But, hoo-boy, the camera seems like it's attached to a paint shaker.
Fun fact: the movie was filmed nearly in reverse. All the Russia scenes were done first and wrapped up filming in India.
In summary why Bourne's action works under Greengrass's direction:
- wide angle shots to show characters and environments of the fights
- the impact of weapons/hits are CENTERED in the frame, providing focus
- every hit, block, or impact is fully registered and shown before cutting to another shot
- handheld camera is to bring the audience into the experience of a spy thriller and heighten the tension/intensity of the story environment.
There's nothing wrong with using a still camera or shaky camera for filming action, but you have to do right to make either work. Bourne does shaky right, most don't.
I disagree that Greengrass does action well. The action is by far the worst part of the film.
The best of the Bourne films imo. The Daniel Craig 007 films owe a lot to the Bourne trilogy, in terms of aesthetics, grittiness, realism and editing.
Yes! I'm sure I remember reading an interview with one of the producers on Casino Royale, where they said that the Bourne Identity really shook them up a bit and made them reconsider how the rebooted Bond should feel to the audience. For that alone, the Bourne movies deserve credit!
This one is my favorite too. The plot is satisfying, the set-pieces are great, and most importantly to me, the scene where he confesses to the Russian girl was so moving. That is where Bourne reclaimed his humanity. (I didn't like the third film as much because it started to make Bourne look too much like a superhero. And the final one with Matt Damon was the worst of all -- I thought the Jeremy Renner one was better than that.)
@@TheJrr71 Absolutely! The best thing to happen to James Bond was Jason Bourne. Die Another Day was so ridiculous. This came out after, and then we got Casino Royale.
I think I agree.
My favorite part of the Bourne films is that Borne's "power level" changes (relative to everyone else) in EACH film!
And in THIS one, he is at his MOST "powerful" compared to those he is fighting.
(Minor Spoiler) I like that in the later one he is more the "aging, declining, grizzled veteran" battling younger, healthier, fresher opponents with the same skills.
It changes the "tension level" for each movie IMO.
Acho que são estilos diferentes. Bourne é espião pobre, raíz 😆
É como comparar com missão impossível, não dá certo
14:24 "It's interesting because the camera is fast and shaky but you can still see the choreography."
Because there's actually a point to Greengrass' shaky cam, he's not just doing it as a gimmick or shortcut like lesser directors. Gareth Evans (director of the Raid franchise) IMO refines this type of direction to its ultimate extent.
Gareth Evans hardly uses shaky cam.
False you can't see shit. Even stunt men in reaction videos complain about this video of how bad is edited and makes their work look worse.
shaky cam is literally dogshit and thank god it only lasted a couple of years in the industry.
In Russia, a black sedan with a blue light is a sign of power / friends, not police. People with the right connections have them and they essentially function above the law.
When it comes to how realistic travel is in the movies, I like to call it Hollywood Geography. I actually got to work on a film here in Ireland a few years ago, and we did manage to keep almost all of the travel correct and in sequence, except for a few scenes where we moved a signpost or two :) :)
In "True Lies" they're supposed to be in DC, and the big horse-chase scene starts in legit Georgetown DC, but then that bathroom was obviously a set, and then he chases him into *The Westin Bonneventure* in *Los Angeles.*
(Because as everyone who lives in DC knows, there's no skyscrapers because the monument has to be visible from all parts of the city)
@@chrisleebowersis it really? That's cool
The building with the ball ist the Berlin TV tower.
Build in eastern Berlin / East Germany.
(At the time of the movie the wall between east and west was gone already.)
25:20 George, in the military, especially in the field, you can pack a wound with dirt. You need to stop the bleeding before you lose to much blood which will then start a whole chain of other bad things for your body. He was just trying to stop the bleeding ASAP!
Cheers and love all your reactions!
Fun Fact: To give this movie its gritty, documentary-style appearance, director Paul Greengrass used mostly handheld cameras and a muted color palette. Paul Greengrass also made sure to avoid computer graphics at all costs and all of the stunts shown in the movie were achieved practically.
Also, the Bourne movies are by far the most realistic and gritty in their genre. He is amazing at what he does, but not made out to be super human, when he gets hurt you really feel it.
This is one of my all time favorite movies. Captain America Winter Soldier is my favorite Marvel movie of all only because it reminds me of Bourne a bit
Pity we aren't allowed to see the stunts properly.
Don't know if it has been answered before, but regarding George's question about the signs: It's essentially a demonstration for better education. The sign in the front says "more stupid for everyone", written with deliberate spelling mistakes. The one in the background says "... for education" up top, and I can't read the bottom line, because it's cropped. the first word is "not".
The first sign says "Meer dumm für Alle" ... which means "more dumb for everybody" but is written incorrectly (Meer = sea but it is very close to the german word for more, which is "mehr" ... both are pronounced the same and the latter is also a popular spelling mistake kids make). The second is a bit trickier. I think it says "Geld für Bildung und nicht für Rüstung", which translates to "Money for education and not for armaments".
So it is a protest for more money for education.
I hope that helps. :)
17:56 To those who speak German, that was actually briefly foreshadowed: when he arrived in Berlin and followed Landy, there was a poster calling for a "Demonstration", which is what Germans call a protest march. So he saw that sign and knew where to send Nikki.
Simone has HAD IT with George 🤣🤣
Coming soon: The George Intervention (to stop the puns).
i would support that. 👍🏼
I am so glad that you just did not guess what the movie was all about and left it at that at the beginning. George's dad jokes were non stop and personally, I am all for it. I can't wait for you to get to the third installment. Same shaky cam but with an even stronger storyline which merges with this movie in a way I had never seen before. You'll definitely enjoy it.
12:46 That building is the "Fernsehturm" ("TV Tower") in Berlin. It's actually the tallest building in Germany (368 m).
German Telephone cells used to be Yellow in the past until the providing Company changed. Until cellphones got overwhelmingly prominent, Public telephones were indeed almost all Pink between these periods.
The „Lollipopbuilding“ is the Fernsehturm (Television Tower) in mid Berlin. Im Not sure about it, but I believe to remember, there is a tourist center up there with a restaurant. Very famous Landmark here.
The Building in the distance (the lollipop) was the Berlin TV Tower, a broadcast tower. There are several like this across germanies bigger cities.
Also the Pink Payphones are the old ones hosted by Telekom, whos Brandcolor is Magenta.
The Signs say:
Mehr Dumm für Alle (More stupid for everybody)
and
[...] für Bildung nicht für [...] ([...] for education not for [...]
It's a demonstration against G8 I think, which was the law to shorten public schooling from 9/13 to 8/ 12 years. (I think that lines up with when this movie was shot)
Well, all payphones are old and mostly gone now. I miss the yellow ones. I have not seen one in years.
@@Lifter999 True, but the Telekom ones are like from the 90s mostly, the yellow ones are newer.
@@SebastianBeckerPhoto The yellow ones have been around since forever... yellow because Deutsche Post operates them. The magenta Telekom ones in the 90´s is correct.
"The Bad George is strong today." LOL! But he's also cracking me up. 😆🤣
This is one of the only series where the shaky cam doesn't bother me. For me it adds to the experience because it's supposed to feel frantic and gritty. You can also always tell what's happening, and it never uses shaky cam to cover up bad action scenes. This movie and Ultimatum actually use it right IMO. So many films tried to copy this style after the fact and none of them get it right, which is why there is a stigma against it.
I agree, I thought Paul Greengrass was the only one who actually knew what he was doing with shaky cam. I was able to follow everything and not get nauseous. Other movies copied the style but not the actual directing skill. FWIW I do prefer the Hong Kong style of locking the camera down for fight scenes, but when shaky cam is a deliberate stylistic choice, then it should be done like in this movie.
These movies did it well. Others used shaky can and fast cuts to hide multiple takes and increase the energy, but the Bourne movies used it to make the action feel improvised. The action is still legible despite the shake because the angle choices focused on the important elements and cuts were motivated. They did it right.
Nah still looks stupid and it's not clear What's happening
Somewhere, Simone has activated a sleeper cell.
He's got that thing on his car, right? The little 'wooey-wooey'. Cracking me up, Simone!
Joan Allen has that "Stern Mom" energy working for her in this movie :)
12:49 That building is the Berlin TV-Tower. You buy tickets for the viewing platform and there are Restaurants too.
For Simone. The building is the Berlin Fernsehturm (engl. Television tower). It is a sightseeing point in Berlin, has a restaurant and it is spinning in slow motion. So you can sit down an see whole Berlin. One of the highest points in Berlin. He is in the middle of Berlin on the Alexanderplatz.
Sign Translations for George
"Meer Dumm für alle" is an wrong scripting text. It means "more dump for all" but the first word is wrong and shows "sea dump for all". Mehr = more and Meer = sea/ocean
"Entdecke die (Un)möglichkeiten - 5 Profs für 2000 Studenten" => Discover the (im)possibilities - 5 Professors for 2000 students.
Bildung ist keine Ware => Education is not a ware
I hope it was helpful.
That lollipop building is the Berliner Fernsehturm (Berlin TV Tower) and the demonstration was about good education for everyone. 17:47 says 'more stupid for everyone' but the more is spelled wrong on purpose - more in german is 'Mehr', but they spelled it 'Meer' which means sea.
I'm the same as Simone I think. There are very few movies I've had problems with shaky cam for. The only one I can think of is Batman Begins but that was only because you literally couldn't see anything that was happening and that was apparently the point. Thankfully Nolan abandoned that in Dark Knight. But I never even noticed the shaky cam in any Bourne movies.
Movie 1 is loosely based on the first book but with a significant villain (Ilich Ramírez (Carlos the Jackal) Sánchez) missing. Movies 2 and 3 have nothing to do with the books. Book 2 was set in China, and book 3 was a conclusion to book 1.
The author, Robert Ludlum didn't want to write the sequals which is why book two is a completely different story to book 1.
And there was also a 2 episode TV show (or a 3 hour TV movie) in 1988 with Richard Chamberlin.
George with those lines is trying to write the next Naked Gun script.
In the last Jason Bourne movie, Matt Damon only had 25 lines but was paid 26 million dollars. Imagine making over a million dollars PER LINE!
George was correct. Frame Bourne, Kill Bourne, bury Treadstone.
Rolled up magazines (when rolled tightly) can be very effective weapons. During martial arts demonstrations, I used to break boards with a rolled up magazine. Seriously.
I can confirm your suspicion about Hollywood city geography. Bourne going around in the city of Berlin on foot makes sense inasmuch as being truly in the same city, but some transitions cannot be made without him having the powers of the movie Jumper.
"That building" is the Berlin Fernsehturm (TV-tower). It's one of two tv transmitters in Berlin (the other being the "Funkturm" in the former West-Berlin) and it features a rotating restaurant inside the Sphere (If I remember correctly it roates once every 60 Minutes).
And yes, the payphnes where pink, as that is the brand color of the operator "Deutsche Telekom".
"Magenta" ... du-du-du-di-du
There's a movie that was shot in the city I lived in for 20 years: Chico, CA. I definitely recognized the location when the actors were traveling through the downtown area.
12:48 The building is a TV Tower with a visitor platform and a revolving restaurant (Sphere).
Not this particular movie, but they ask Clint Eastwood about the use of "shaky cam" he wasn't even being snarky but he said "I don't need to use it. I know how to direct action scene"
@Txt_me_at_CineBinge_React I remember it was a roundtable discussion about film direction and Eastwood (to paraphrase I can't remember the exact quote) was a part of the panel. He enjoyed the Hitchcock school of film direction Hitchcock believed that the audience should never see the presence of a camera. The films were like stage productions and the audience was sitting out in the theater. Looking in on scenes or acts of a story in their theater of the mind. Eastwood's point was you don't use the camera to tell the story. If you use it correctly, you're not even aware of the camera. Obviously shaky cam goes contrary to this philosophy. As you very aware, there's a camera involved. It takes you as a participant out of the story and in turn makes your perceptions of that very aware camera "play" and defeats the purpose of a well-directed movie.
"Okay. That's 3 George." Why I ❤️ you guys 🤣
"George, WTF?" The perfect response to the perfect dad joke
17:31 Yes this series was adaptation from series of books, but only by title and characters name
If you liked this one, you're gonna LOVE the next movie!
25:52 Well speaking from experience; They filmed a TV show in my hometown in Canada. (Newfoundland) and most of the people in the show spoke with a British accent.. and if you know us, we are far closer to Irish. In the wide shots, while they did show some landmarks, they missed the mark for the most part with geographical knowledge. They said at one point, "Let's talk at the 7/11", and we don't have those stores in our province. It is the small details like that that are missed. They get it 85% right, but if they actually lived there, they'd realize the other 15% sticks out like a sore thumb.
George's nonstop dad jokes 🤝 this movie's nonstop shaky cams
That payphone wasn't pink, it was magenta! That's the brand color of Deutsche Telekom, who were operating public payphones at the time. You may know them as T-Mobile.
I love that you guys get the giggles when one of you gets on the others case.
At 26:10 when you are talking about the scenery. I dont know about this movie but i used to work at a summer camp where one of the Friday the 13th movies was filmed and it absolutely made no sense. Btw we watched that movie at the camp on friday the 13th
Fun fact: the scenes in Berlin were filmed on location at the Alexanderplatz (where the demonstration is held). Later in the movie they use the exact same location (just a different camera angle) for the scenes in Moscow.
The Lolipopbuilding is Berlins Fernsehturm (TV-Tower) the ball contains a restaurant with a revolving floor (1 Rotation/Hour), that allows guests to take in a 360 view while eating.
The dark church is the Kirche am Südstern (church at the southern star) thus named after the Südstern square, named as such because it has 7 roads meeting there.
The protest signs: foreground "more stupid for all" (deliberately in bad german and misspelled); background "Money for education, not for arms"
"I'm dead inside."
"I'm Hillarious!"
Yes, yes you are George never stop.
@8:16, George, did you say ‘escape goat’? Sounded like escape goat.
I saw it in cinema when it came out and after the car chase in the tunnel a guy next to me said: I'm not feeling so well 🙂. I don't like the super shaky cam and super fast cuts either.
Your reactions are becoming my favorites. I love the intro phrases from Simone.
Even with that being said, I would not describe myself as a huge fan, I would need to gain about 70 more pounds to say that, but at 6 foot 220 I can say I am a big fan.
Simone's "line reading" of "I also have eyes" at 2:20 cracked me up.
The chase scene geography here is really funny because they start in Moscow and finish in Berlin! 😁 They shot the tunnel scenes in the Tiergarten tunnel underneath central Berlin. It was still under construction at the time and not yet open to traffic. Also some other Moscow scenes were actually filmed in Berlin (Airport scene, the night club exterior, Bourne asking the elderly woman for the Neski girl and subsequently getting shot by Karl Urban from the bridge and the arrest at the end). Also the scenes set in Munich (exploding house) were done in Berlin, I went there and had a look at that house, it was the show house for some new housing developments...looked pretty unscathed when I was there...kudos to movie effects! 🙂2 of my classmates were extras for the protest scenes at Alexanderplatz, they had to stand around all night in the freezing cold until the scene was set up...and it didn't make it into the final movie! The protests by students were supposed to be for public education reforms and were actually happening for real during the time they filmed in Berlin, so they incorporated the idea into the script. Meta moment: I watched this movie in the same cinema ("CUBIX") which can be seen at 17:38 in the background!
George, what you said about the car chases is exactly right. Belfast where I live has recently been used as the location for a few police shows and in those car chases I am constantly shouting at the tv. They will be at one side of the city turn left and be in a completely different part of the city, then turn again and be back where they started, This happens several times during a chase sequence using the same 2 or 3 roads that were closed for filming creating a long chase sequence but in rel space only covered 3 or 4 streets.
I think the shaky cam is also meant to approximate Bourne's perspective, that even through chaos and random action, his mind can still calculate a strategy.
That said, if it's tough for you to watch it, it can be struggle to get around
The TV Tower on Alexanderplatz is Berlin's most prominent landmark and the tallest building in Germany. Its steel sphere contains an observation platform and a gourmet restaurant.
This one has some of my favorite score moments in the series, and some incredible chase sequences too!
I don't care what Universal says, Bourne is a trilogy. The third film is a perfect ending, and everything that comes after really just steps on that. Ultimatum deals with all the loose ends, and satisfyingly concludes Jason Bourne's arc.
12:57 that is the Television Tower on Alexanderplatz here in Berlin (Germany)
17:48 the front sign has the words "Sea For All Supid" on it... it seems there is abit missing or it is just random writing. The second sign says also nonsense "For Picture Not" the rest is not readable. I suspect it means "Geld für Bildung, nicht für ..." --> Money for Education, not for ... whatever then is standing there.
18:55 the article says in headline: murder, then suicide.
12:48 As you probably figured out the tower is Fernsehterm Berlin, a television tower with a restaurant and observation tower built by the East German government between 1965 and 1969.
Neither stop nor apologize for the puns. Or calling thingies...thingies. Both are great.
That tower is the TV Tower next to Alexanderplatz in Berlin. In the ball structure there is a revolving restaurant. I had breakfast up there when I last visited and had wonderful views.
I kept thinking Karl Urban's contact, the dude with the glasses, looked familiar.
Turns out he was Rasputin in Hellboy and the bad guy's lawyer in Blade 2!
Man has range.
Pam Landy (Joan Allen) is the best kind of nemesis -- she starts off hunting Bourne but is smart enough to slowly figure out that something is wrong and eventually sides with him. Kind of like Tommy Lee Jones in "The Fugitive." We don't see that character enough in movies because they're so much harder to write and direct.
23:40 "You're going to try to call a taxi you're going to be on hold for an hour"
George: "Well the movie IS an hour and fourty minutes."
I am all here for out-of-control George! 😂😂😂
Btw, 'that building' is the Berliner Fernsehturm. It is a radio and tv tower that also has an observatory, bar, and revolving restaurant.
25:51 that happened in "Marathon Man." During a chase scene, audiences who lived in the city where it was filmed were laughing about the edits. A guy would turn a corner and suddenly be twenty blocks away in the next shot.
17:24 “George, you’re out of … (your element, Donnie!) … control!”
Love it! And we know Simone loves your Dad’s jokes, too 😂
12:47 It's a TV tower. Build from 1965-69. It also has a restaurant on top.
If I thought George read these comments I'd say "Celeborn" from LOTR is pronounced with a hard C--like a K--in Celeborn. But who has time for such silliness.
Him watching them with the sniper rifle saying shes right next to you is my favorite part of this movie lol.
I also was never bothered by the shaky cams until people started pointing it out
In Sleepless in Seattle (my home town), when Meg Ryan was following Tom Hanks and his son in the boat...the boat ride made "some" geographical sense...it was far too long a distance for that boat in an afternoon..but her chances of following by car was zero...
Looks like the TV tower in Alexanderplatz, Berlin.
17:47 The sign in the front says “Moar dumb for everybody”, the one in the back something about education. Looks like it’s meant to be a student protest.
I love how much fun you two are having watching movies.
Shaky cam was exactly why Greengrass was hired to direct. It wasn't a thing until he started doing it. Of course, when a movie franchise is successful, other filmmakers try to emulate what that franchise did without knowing why it was successful in the first place. The shaky cam isn't constant either. The fights and chases are intercut with static camera shots so you can still keep track of what is happening, while conveying the chaos that's ensuing.
6:26 What Lies Beneath (2000) with Harrison Ford and Michelle Pfeiffer
Speaking of movie’s with car screens that don’t make sense. In the Hangover when they get their tuxedos on the freeway, they’re driving on the 210 freeway in Southern California. However, their driving East and technically back to Vegas.
I can recall a fun car chase from the old Chuck Norris film 'The Delta Force' (one of my personal favourite cheesy action films) where he and another guy try to outrun some enemy army vehicles while driving a ricky old panel van. Somehow, despite the chase happening in what seems like a small district in a city somewhere in the middle east, they manage to hit several of the Hollywood car chase tropes, eg. a vehicle hits a fruit stand, they run through on old phone/power box thing (replacing the usual plane of glass), they drive down a series of bumpy steps, knock somebody's car door off and even manage to find a big pile of water bottles in the back of a truck to hit. Great film with a spectacularly heroic soundtrack. :)
The movie Hallam Foe is shot in Edinburgh and I know the city well enough, that the bit where he works in kitchen, he enters one hotel (at one part of the city) to go to work, and leaves work onto the street the other side of the city that happens to have a similar sized hotel on it 😁
the building you're looking for is called FERNSEHTURM (TV Tower). it's a famous attraction in berlin. great reaction as always! ;)
Obviously it can cause problems for some people, but the method Greengrass et al. employed to make it happen in this and ‘Ultimatum’, make it easily the cleanest example of shaky cam.
Yeah sometimes it can be a bit much for me too but I don’t mind because there’s at least a motivation to it and Greengrass is a competent filmmaker. Unfortunately a lot of hacks try and copy it to just cover up that their fight choreography is non existent lol.
I have this image of Julia Stiles’ inner monologue where every time Bourne shows up she just closes her eyes and says, “goddamnit” to herself.
That thing with the Ball is the TV-Tower in Berlin. There is a Observation Deck, a Bar and a rotating Restaurant in that Ball at 200Meters
6:36 she played a similar character to Jason Bourne in Psych S05E09.
one of Psych's top 10 imo.
0:28 ohh the Simone soundboard is already full and George is getting jealous? Muahahahah