Man I’m really invested in this because I have a 3208(naturally aspirated) that was bored out, rebuilt, and been sitting for +25 years. My family farm bought it, rebuilt the engine, used it for a month before they bent the frame in the truck. Ever since then it’s been sitting. I’ve always wanted to start a project, but I had no clue what to do. You’re living my dream man!!!! I love the videos keep it up!
Hey started that project 10 years ago. It’s a f350 1990 set up 3208 cat twin turbo on it. 5 speed, 4 speed behind, and a 205 transfer case. When it comes to turbos you can buy the manifolds for the 3204 cat, and the turbo will come out the side.
Air to water intercooler? Something similar to the MTU 8v 4000 m54 after cooler. But on top of the motor instead of the back of the motor like on the Mtu motor.
I really like your take on the reliability aspect of the engine, all engines have a weak spot and if properly accounted for then it's all good. The cooling is a non issue because it's all going to be made again with the swap completely different from the original use case, and the whole sleeve thing is also a mute point since it can still be resurfaced if needed and after a million km of wear then sure just bore it out and sleeve it, but as you said sleeves are sometimes the cause of engine problems like in the rover 4.6L v8 where it is quite common to have sleeves slipping
Awesome to see you do this to the 3208 haters you guys know nothing I've been working on them for 40 years they regularly will go 1 million miles before you need to pull the heads and do a mild rebuild they are only unreliable if you abuse them use a upgraded aluminum radiator and be careful with boost torque shoots up very quickly you will blow a trans easily motor is run at 450 hp in marine same internals but the torque can get up around 1500
16:20 if ya got a metal yard near by, sleeves can be made for a 3208 that down size it to 9.6L, just 2.4mm sheet metal and a roller jig weld the pipe seam and add another welded on roller ring for the deck seat. JB epoxy press fit then the 3126 steel top pistons go in with a wrist pin bushing change. if ya pull something real heavy, its the rev and dumps on the clutch that brake the drive shafts because the stall torque is three times higher then the SAE ratting 2krpm 550lbft, and 1500lb stall, at 4krpm that's 3000lbft stall at the clutch. dump moves a little rev out dump rev out dump till it runs out of gear then it stays floored in 2nd... their are old 3208's with cast iron cranks then their are new 3208's that got those laser etched 4340 stainless assemblies, one being a $10'000 3208 and the other being a $50k quote from CAT as mentioned. 70K for a CAT 3406 15L. proper reman 3208's run smother then the 5.4L gassers.
Not gonna lie my heart sank when I heard that chain broke 😅 Sidenote, this kind of inspired me of doing a swap similar to this so my plan is to get a GEN three Ford Ranger and either swapping in the 3208 or here’s where it gets crazy a 3408. lifting it up with custom trophy car suspension and either going back to factory ranger red or spray it with line-x put portals on it with 35 inch tires and maybe just maybe cause I seen it before making it a Dooley. I really want to try and build this and if I can’t fit the cat engine in the ranger I have a whole spreadsheet of engines I made to pick from 😂
@@pob_car Power to weight ratio 😂😂😂😂 role cage is a requirement not a option in this build or a 3408 which I want to supercharge making around 1000 hp and 2500 of torque 😂
@@pob_car just you wait I also have a Honda pilot that I want to swap the new Honda‘s BF 350 boat engine into it 😅 which is a high compression V8 with v tech in it my mind is a scary place😂
Yo hear me out cause ik we’re talkin German shit here but 1.9 tdi it. You can buy everything it takes to plug an ALH into a ranger online. It’s been done, but people usually do it to Toyota pickups. Gives them way more motor because ALHs are very buildable. My friends cousin did his 4 runner and gets over 40mpg driving ignorantly
The crossmember has to be moved to the front. That would be your setting for the front engine mount. And you do have to reverse the oil pan and buy the adapter for the sump. Also you should move the dipstick to the back, and if you need any more information or wanna buy mine, just message me and we can exchange information.
Jut take your time and don’t get discouraged. It is a big engine will be a tight fit watch your measurements and keep in mind that you will need a bigger radiator. You can’t use the same manifold won’t fit because of the angle your best bet will be the manifold from the 3204 they wore inexpensive . I’m going to try and send a video of it.
I use Siginaw power steering pumps, Ford pumps are 1100 psi relative to Sig pumps, Ford uses on diesel vans, due to 1400 psi. Also easy to find and rebuild. My idi turbo comes off the driver's side exhaust manifold, y-piped in from the right side underneath. I've often considered making my own, plated manifolds using black pipe from the home Depot, they are cast, and bevelled, 45's, 90',s, etc already made, for a turbo on each side.. it's all about the grunt torque anyway
I swapped a cummins v8 into my 2006 f350 which came manual stock and obviously i put a 10 speed manual into mine but yeah it runs really good and sounds very nice
You might be able to use the NA exhaust manifolds just flip them to point upwards. You could use the 6.0 air intake location. Just do it for both side to get a cold air intake for both turbos if your not running a intercooler or even if you do. The 7.3 frame you used for mockup may have stronger leaf springs in the front for the weight of the diesel. The gasser won’t so you be want to switch some parts around.
Those power steering pumps have press on pulleys. And you can get the special pullers for it. Harbor freight or the Canadian equivalent should have one.
I love this guy, just stumbled upon and really like it, But I will say less talking or maybe better focusing on what he's talking about, but it's really good videos, keep it up man
Goddammit! Now I gotta follow another build channel! (Just kidding. I don't mind following another channel. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.)
Sleeved ? A lot of diesels when rebuilt get sleeved, even the 6.9/7.3's so much more to work with for bore size. So many engines were rooted in tractor trucks, and tractors, even the Cummins 5.9 came from a tractor (case/cdd) developed it. I'd go with a Cat anyway, all day
the injection pump body needs to be overbore'd with larger injection pistons, to spool out a turbo. they are non-emissions engines so they were built to be emissions compliant. 5 low on the 10 speed will be a bunch of nothing gears in a F250, should be able to take off in 8th gear up a 20 degree hill from a stop on the hill all the way up to 60km/hr then into 9th... get a double overdrive transfer case.
You mentioned the dash full Of holes some of us we could help it I worked for a company they would run they’re accessories that way and they had GPS set up in the trucks that used a driver fob and man those dudes would wreck the dashes
no.... if you put a turbo on that engine it WILL blow up. the non-turbo 3208 has higher compression ration than a factory turbo 3208. the turbo 3208's had piston cooling jets for each piston. and pretty sure a different cam shaft ... also that engine is around 1800 lbs! its super heavy! so start bracing up your frame. you'd be miles ahead starting with a factory turbo engine.
I mean i get it its a Caterpillar 3208, but its like exactly the same hp & torque as the 7.3 its replacing so whats the gain. Just mechanical diesel stuff? You could put injectors, turbo & ts5\hydra in a 7.3 and double its power. 3206 i would understand more like deboss did. Also id keep the air compressor on the engine for on-board air & air bags, horns etc. I'm not hating just wondering why, cause surely this will cost much more than keeping the 7.3? Do you though, I'll keep watching.
So those turbos look 10x too small like that big ol iron behemoth... Diesel turbos are huge... Ebay a Detroit Diesel turbo you would see and the turdos you have would work for the 5.4 though
Yes. They are small, I do agree, I am not going to be pushing much pressure but they are the right air volume for the engine…. I will upgrade if the perform poorly, these are just to get the build started.
My uncle had a fishing boat with 2 3208's twin turboed. So they are out there in the marine world. Jordan Lustik has 3 on his 3208 powered Unlimited superstock pulling tractor running on alcoho,l that's a little more modified though.
Man I’m really invested in this because I have a 3208(naturally aspirated) that was bored out, rebuilt, and been sitting for +25 years. My family farm bought it, rebuilt the engine, used it for a month before they bent the frame in the truck. Ever since then it’s been sitting. I’ve always wanted to start a project, but I had no clue what to do. You’re living my dream man!!!! I love the videos keep it up!
Thank you! Follow along for updates
Put it in a miata
@@channelofchannels7845 a Miata would be a total waste
Mini pooper would be so much better
How much for it ?
We are so here for this
I appreciate the support!
Hey started that project 10 years ago. It’s a f350 1990 set up 3208 cat twin turbo on it. 5 speed, 4 speed behind, and a 205 transfer case. When it comes to turbos you can buy the manifolds for the 3204 cat, and the turbo will come out the side.
Im 3208 swapping my excursion... leaving it N/A factory 215 hp.. Simple and will have PLENTLY of torque to move 10,000 lbs around.
That’s so cool. Good luck!
Start a TH-cam series
@@brentrussell780 go for it brother that will last you a lifetime
I'm not much of a Ford guy but I will say that you do have an awesome project but I do love the ole obs square body fords
Everyone telling you it’s the worst engine ever can go cry in their non-3208 trucks while you smile in yours .
Exactly!👍
It’s a medium duty engine that so many expected to do heavy duty engine stuff. The dumbest people are often the loudest.
@ This is so very true
@@matthewkabanuk443 trump cultist fit this description
Glad to see you build something original and realistic. Good luck, cant wait for updates.
Thanks for the support
Cannot wait to see er finished.
Follow along for the build
Worked for a cat dealer for a few years. These engines blow head gaskets easily. You might want to do them before you go putting turbos on it.
That’s the plan
3208 swaps have been done in fords and chevys many times , with and without turbo. Never seen a dodge swap or swap with twins in a pickup
Air to water intercooler? Something similar to the MTU 8v 4000 m54 after cooler. But on top of the motor instead of the back of the motor like on the Mtu motor.
I will definitely consider this
Gonna be a cool build!! Lookin forward to it
Me too! Follow along for updates
There is a special puller you can borrow from most parts stores that pull those pulleys off of the power steering system.
I really like your take on the reliability aspect of the engine, all engines have a weak spot and if properly accounted for then it's all good. The cooling is a non issue because it's all going to be made again with the swap completely different from the original use case, and the whole sleeve thing is also a mute point since it can still be resurfaced if needed and after a million km of wear then sure just bore it out and sleeve it, but as you said sleeves are sometimes the cause of engine problems like in the rover 4.6L v8 where it is quite common to have sleeves slipping
Thanks for the comment! Yeah liners have allot of issues on their own, leaking o-rings, getting protrusion right.
Awesome to see you do this to the 3208 haters you guys know nothing I've been working on them for 40 years they regularly will go 1 million miles before you need to pull the heads and do a mild rebuild they are only unreliable if you abuse them use a upgraded aluminum radiator and be careful with boost torque shoots up very quickly you will blow a trans easily motor is run at 450 hp in marine same internals but the torque can get up around 1500
I like them and think them are good for light use. Everything has its problems. And I’d rather do this than just another Cummins swap
I'm subscribed to see the progress. I like this type of content
Thank you for the support!
16:20 if ya got a metal yard near by, sleeves can be made for a 3208 that down size it to 9.6L, just 2.4mm sheet metal and a roller jig weld the pipe seam and add another welded on roller ring for the deck seat. JB epoxy press fit then the 3126 steel top pistons go in with a wrist pin bushing change. if ya pull something real heavy, its the rev and dumps on the clutch that brake the drive shafts because the stall torque is three times higher then the SAE ratting 2krpm 550lbft, and 1500lb stall, at 4krpm that's 3000lbft stall at the clutch. dump moves a little rev out dump rev out dump till it runs out of gear then it stays floored in 2nd... their are old 3208's with cast iron cranks then their are new 3208's that got those laser etched 4340 stainless assemblies, one being a $10'000 3208 and the other being a $50k quote from CAT as mentioned. 70K for a CAT 3406 15L. proper reman 3208's run smother then the 5.4L gassers.
Thanks for the info
Can't wait to see what that thing can do
Follow along for updates
Not gonna lie my heart sank when I heard that chain broke 😅
Sidenote, this kind of inspired me of doing a swap similar to this so my plan is to get a GEN three Ford Ranger and either swapping in the 3208 or here’s where it gets crazy a 3408. lifting it up with custom trophy car suspension and either going back to factory ranger red or spray it with line-x put portals on it with 35 inch tires and maybe just maybe cause I seen it before making it a Dooley. I really want to try and build this and if I can’t fit the cat engine in the ranger I have a whole spreadsheet of engines I made to pick from 😂
By the way, I forgot to say I’m not gonna have Dooleys off-Roading this build it’s kinda like a work truck and off-road monster
@@tanker663 did you just say 3208 and ford ranger in the same comment..?
@@pob_car Power to weight ratio 😂😂😂😂 role cage is a requirement not a option in this build or a 3408 which I want to supercharge making around 1000 hp and 2500 of torque 😂
@@pob_car just you wait I also have a Honda pilot that I want to swap the new Honda‘s BF 350 boat engine into it 😅 which is a high compression V8 with v tech in it my mind is a scary place😂
Yo hear me out cause ik we’re talkin German shit here but 1.9 tdi it. You can buy everything it takes to plug an ALH into a ranger online. It’s been done, but people usually do it to Toyota pickups. Gives them way more motor because ALHs are very buildable. My friends cousin did his 4 runner and gets over 40mpg driving ignorantly
This is such a cool build! And I can’t wait to see how much power you can get from that engine one this is all said and done
Thanks! I’m excited to see
For paint color what about Metalic blue and cat yellow two tone be unique top yellow center blue bottom yellow
That would look so good. I will consider this
This is a sweet project man! Excited to see how it turns out and what all the integration of that CAT entails.
The crossmember has to be moved to the front. That would be your setting for the front engine mount. And you do have to reverse the oil pan and buy the adapter for the sump. Also you should move the dipstick to the back, and if you need any more information or wanna buy mine, just message me and we can exchange information.
Jut take your time and don’t get discouraged. It is a big engine will be a tight fit watch your measurements and keep in mind that you will need a bigger radiator. You can’t use the same manifold won’t fit because of the angle your best bet will be the manifold from the 3204 they wore inexpensive . I’m going to try and send a video of it.
I use Siginaw power steering pumps, Ford pumps are 1100 psi relative to Sig pumps, Ford uses on diesel vans, due to 1400 psi. Also easy to find and rebuild. My idi turbo comes off the driver's side exhaust manifold, y-piped in from the right side underneath. I've often considered making my own, plated manifolds using black pipe from the home Depot, they are cast, and bevelled, 45's, 90',s, etc already made, for a turbo on each side.. it's all about the grunt torque anyway
@@ridgwalkerg Thank you for the information! I’ll keep this in mind
A pully from a 70s ford fits and is v belt.
Thank you!
I would really enjoy seeing you doing a dt360 or a dt466 motor swap not a lot of videos on them I think you would be the perfect person to do it
Follow along for the build. If this one goes well. I will do that next
Im doing dt360 swap now
Unpopular opinion, the DT360 should have been the engine ford put in their trucks insteas of the idi or powerstroke
@@The_JEB it'd Fits in ther so good
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I swapped a cummins v8 into my 2006 f350 which came manual stock and obviously i put a 10 speed manual into mine but yeah it runs really good and sounds very nice
You might be able to use the NA exhaust manifolds just flip them to point upwards. You could use the 6.0 air intake location. Just do it for both side to get a cold air intake for both turbos if your not running a intercooler or even if you do. The 7.3 frame you used for mockup may have stronger leaf springs in the front for the weight of the diesel. The gasser won’t so you be want to switch some parts around.
I would be upgrading all the leafs on the truck and building 4link air ride once I’m done.
Those power steering pumps have press on pulleys. And you can get the special pullers for it. Harbor freight or the Canadian equivalent should have one.
Thanks, I will see what I can do
I love this guy, just stumbled upon and really like it, But I will say less talking or maybe better focusing on what he's talking about, but it's really good videos, keep it up man
Right now I’m working on a conversion kit for putting 3208 injection pumps on a 7.3 power stroke with mechanical injectors, of course
I was wondering if this would work the other day. How hard is it to do?
I’ll send you the report when I’m done
Overdrive and or big tires will be a must to get any speed
I do agree
Bro, you dropped it. I mean, ugh, you DROPPED the motard!
It's going to be alright. It’s only a motard
@@STROKER-GARAGE You're not wrong, except for dropping it.
Flat black with gloss CAT yellow accents
You do know that they manufactured a twin turbo 3208 marine engine for years.
This is true. Haven’t seen one in a pickup yet.
@ because it’s a marine engine. However the intake pipes are not.
Goddammit! Now I gotta follow another build channel!
(Just kidding. I don't mind following another channel. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress.)
Thanks for the support! I will have another update soon
Nice i just started my dt360 crewcab f-superduty
Nice! That’s my plan for the next build
Not gonna lie, that drop hurt my soul.
Me too, didn’t hurt anything important
The cat 3160 is just like the 3208 but it’s sleeved
I probably would have gone with that if I could have found one
Who cares what ppl say. Run what you have.
Make sure to get a nice "engine heater?" If thats the name in english. For cold starts to make them luke warm starts👍
Also super cool build. Following this
14:50 weld the V-pully to it
Better nail the alignment though
Cat yellow with cat badges would be cool.
Cool idea. I’ll consider it
Sleeved ? A lot of diesels when rebuilt get sleeved, even the 6.9/7.3's so much more to work with for bore size. So many engines were rooted in tractor trucks, and tractors, even the Cummins 5.9 came from a tractor (case/cdd) developed it. I'd go with a Cat anyway, all day
the injection pump body needs to be overbore'd with larger injection pistons, to spool out a turbo. they are non-emissions engines so they were built to be emissions compliant. 5 low on the 10 speed will be a bunch of nothing gears in a F250, should be able to take off in 8th gear up a 20 degree hill from a stop on the hill all the way up to 60km/hr then into 9th... get a double overdrive transfer case.
You should paint it a bright red
You mentioned the dash full
Of holes some of us we could help it I worked for a company they would run they’re accessories that way and they had GPS set up in the trucks that used a driver fob and man those dudes would wreck the dashes
Old work trucks are always beat up so bad. Good thing I have an extra dash
What about air bags in front to help with weight of motor?
I plan to do full airride on the truck
0:05 My jaw dropped xD
Did your 6.0 fail ? And just wondering why you are choosing the second least reliable diesel engine for this project?
@@lostforevermore7150 The second least reliable? Really what you know about this engines? Did you run them? Or you just blow smoke out your ass ?
no.... if you put a turbo on that engine it WILL blow up. the non-turbo 3208 has higher compression ration than a factory turbo 3208. the turbo 3208's had piston cooling jets for each piston. and pretty sure a different cam shaft ... also that engine is around 1800 lbs! its super heavy! so start bracing up your frame. you'd be miles ahead starting with a factory turbo engine.
This is true. It is not a new idea to turbo charge a n/a engine, it will be low boost and I will watch EGTs
I mean i get it its a Caterpillar 3208, but its like exactly the same hp & torque as the 7.3 its replacing so whats the gain. Just mechanical diesel stuff? You could put injectors, turbo & ts5\hydra in a 7.3 and double its power. 3206 i would understand more like deboss did. Also id keep the air compressor on the engine for on-board air & air bags, horns etc. I'm not hating just wondering why, cause surely this will cost much more than keeping the 7.3? Do you though, I'll keep watching.
The compressor would not fit under the hood.
The cat 3208 is less problematic than the 7.3
@STROKER-GARAGE Anything is possible....Make it fit. Only money and opportunity stopping you. Fabricate an adapter
I can't be the only one wondering this. But, where's the cat🐈⬛?
We’re so back
Hey if you ever need any weird parts that you can’t get, feel free to reach out I work on a lot of cat scrapers that have 3408s
Hey! Thank you. Do you happen to have a replacement thermostat housing?
What transmission are you gonna use?
Eaton 10speed
I dropped a brand new transmission off the top of a hi-lift jack.
Oh no. I did that once and broke the tail housing.
I seen them 3208s with 30000 hours on them in boats so you tell me if they're dependable
Yes! They can be reliable
Chevy. Orange
Paint it Detroit diesel color
cat engine looks like 😏
So those turbos look 10x too small like that big ol iron behemoth... Diesel turbos are huge... Ebay a Detroit Diesel turbo you would see and the turdos you have would work for the 5.4 though
Yes. They are small, I do agree, I am not going to be pushing much pressure but they are the right air volume for the engine…. I will upgrade if the perform poorly, these are just to get the build started.
do cat yellow
The entire truck?
@ yes
It and the cat are about the same size
hell yeeaaahhh
🫡
8:30 he says 80,000 k
Yes. That’s what was put on the transmission after being replaced?
K =kilometre
Just dont put it in a tractor or a haul truck and Im sure it probably wont go all boat-anchory on ya 😊
I'd hate to rain on your parade but there is a TT 3208 in a pulling tractor that makes a ridiculous amount of power. I can't remember the name
Black
The 5.4. It's won't be a good anchor get a 5.3 make a anchor it's will drag the boa.t in the water when you go CHEVY
Nobody likes driving a Chevy
White
What about water/meth injection instead of intercooler 🤔
White one looks best 😋
leave it white
I will consider that
You should look into a Cummins v8
"Worlds first" lol yeah right
Show me another one
My uncle had a fishing boat with 2 3208's twin turboed. So they are out there in the marine world. Jordan Lustik has 3 on his 3208 powered Unlimited superstock pulling tractor running on alcoho,l that's a little more modified though.