Age of Empires 3 - The power of the Janissaries
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- A vid that shows how strong the Janissaries are :) I didn't spend very much time on it, but enjoy anyways! :)
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"send in the hoop throwers, they know how to deal with janissaries." -Morgan Black
Omg that beautiful
Soldier:''Sir, we are surrounded!''
Captain:''Excellent, now we can attack in any direction!''
its a disadvantage being inside a circle m8 put them facing eachother
oi m9-1, got to get outside that triangle you live in
or u can just use 10 great bombards to finish them in 10 seconds
seems to be 50 musketeer and 100 jannissaries
have you count them
jannissary are amazing such an early game unit yet so powerful i chose the ottomans in skirmish because of free villagers but ended up playing them for the powerful infantry the culture upgrades are also very useful
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ret coat whit all cards for attack and armor are the best infanty
Well it's not surprising when you surround them.
Misleading title but still a good video. The jannisaries always had the musketeers surrounded so how is that a good way to show how strong they are?
***** lol i think position doesnt matter in aoe 3. i tried that.
+Tyler Crane this is not somekind of medieval shit. it doesnt matter. its GUNS. not medieval weapons. surounding would only mean u could shoot your own comrades... fuckin think with ur head. not your ass idiots
+eM Key Is a fking game, I don't think the game is programmed to account for position. Especially when you are talking about a game that is all the way back in 2006
Curtis I thats what im saying.. it doesnt matter how they stand
+eM Key It does though, the way they are placed means that there are more jannisaries shooting than musketeers since the musketeers are in a more crowded position, it'd be more fair if they were standing in lines one in front of the other, or better yet but not as interesting just pit a single unit of both and the winner is obviously the better unit
OSMANLI
Ottomans dark legacy.
They could steal your sons from you.
It is not stealing, it is taking to grow as a soldier or a statesman.
all world knows the ottoman is dark but not ottoman is not dark go look to ottoman history with your full eyes im ottoman to they are not barbarians.İf they became a barbarian now we got so many cities but look a medium/bigger area rightnow we losed some cities.Look that a ottoman king i forgot his name and a byzans king byzans king send them to a full of shits to ottomans what the ottomans do? ottomans send flowers and a mesagge name= every sends what eated
Emerland Sword turk ethnicist what an idiot there are lots of people like you
Try something different to make sure it's not because of shooting angel :) .Musketers outside and Jan inside
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There are some issues here.
1. The Janissaries had a terrain and placement advantage, they were on the outside and started close in position. There was no need for them to slowly get into position.
2. Its been years since i played but from memory musketeers were far more cost effective in terms of upgrades and initial costs than Janissaries.
2. Having been a Lieutenant Colonel at one point online i can tell you musketeers when upgraded are better than Janissaries easily and imperial musketeers more well rounded.
4. Within the first few months of playing AOE III online using basic musket strategies with English & Russians i was always able to beat ottomans often four times my own level.
I never lost on an ottoman player. The race in game is heavily overrated.
Unless you're in a 3 vs 3 or more where team mates can potentially carry you till late game ottomans are inefficient and weak. They're only decent late game.
disagree on 1 and 4. i thought about placement at first but i reckon it doesn't matter, could be wrong though. moreover as a frequent otto player i find otto better early than late game. after rush (which is what you usually do) it's hard to get eco going. with otto you generally want to close the game as early as possible, whereas with france for example, late game is desirable. also i'd beat you with otto ;)
Nope i tested with a friend we send 1 soldier both i had the jani and he had the muske and the jani won the battle just test it out in a game send them both agianst each other and let them fight exactly at the same time start the attack and you will see by your self
It's true that the Ottomans are often slow to boom, but they rule supreme in that field anywhere past late Colonial Age. Janissaries are probably the best value for the single pop slot they cost out of any unit and would beat a Musketeer any day, Redcoat or not. And yeh, placement is of little value, its more how many units attack an enemy unit at a time because killing enemies fast is clearly an advantage.
LEARN TO PLAY NOOB
***** Nice job commenting on a 2 year old thread. talk about necroing
I agree, having them surrounded like that gave the janissaries a huge advantage.
in short Ottoman Janissaries > all
ashigaru > all
Wictor Popov Janissaries better !
nah man. age 5 all upgrades, ashigaru screw even skirmishers, with daimyo and shogun.
Wictor Popov Yeah , ashigaru is better. The japan is a bit OP though.
Nah, Ashigarus are nothing special, just overrated, underpowered-in-melee Musketeers. Janissaries on the other hand defeat most units on 1-on-1 fights, can be further bolstered with Janissary Combat and Acemi Oğlan school helps one train them for cheaper. So, hands down Janissaries win.
they're so Good, they lost in the Battle of Vienna and still failed to Conquer Europe, and a tiny Island called Malta.
Why are you taking only 1 battle into consideration? LMAO
True. Actually, if you want to see their real effect, put them against cannons. 5 abus guns can destroy a cannon by shooting once or twice. It's much more useful to use them rather than using cavalry units.
To be fair the jannisaries did completely surround the musketters, now if they were surrounded BY the musketeers and managed to fight them off that would be impressive.
the jannisaries are flanking the target from all sides. of course they'd win
Of course he was going to win, he had the Musketeers boxed in...
i kinda thought i saw more janissaries moving in at the start that werent there originally
Janis and Ottomans more generally are sooo OP at colonial and here the fight was even better for the janis because of the concave and the huge difference of HP btw janis and musks, playing a little online since 2 month and.. I HATE'EM !
the jans had a strategic advantage in both battles, but the second one proves that they are superior in melee
The janissaries may lack in range compared to musketers but the janissaries have 500+ hp when they are imperial while the musketers have around 300...
love otto. they infantary are unique but janissaries are a complete soldier.
A worthy demonstration, but when will a score a jans ever meet with a score of musks alone? those musks will usually have some falcs with them during the fortress age or maybe some LI's during the colonial age, or tall stone towers behind them. In most games, the jans always lose because they run out of resources sooner.
Musketeers for the British can take out the Janissaries. All you have to do is up grade the Redcoats by the Advance arsenal. And shipment cards will do it'
I don't think it's about the "caliphate" title. If that was so, that title would really work during wolrd war one and we wouldn't lose the war.
And Turks were very good soldiers, also before they became muslim. It's about the kind of the society, I guess.
$100 on yellow!
Players generally put infantries in front of the cannons for protecting them. That's why it's not easy to get cavalary units near cannons. But abus guns would have less trouble with the infantries protecting the cannons.
it would have been more fair if the janissairies didn't start off sorrounding the musketeers
im greek and im happy for my nation XD
we are brave
Pretty sure 75 Janissarys costs more than 85 musketeers:
Same gold cost, but 85 musketeers cost 6,375 food, and 75 Janissarys cost 7,500.
So you should fight 60-65 Janissarys against 85 musketeers then see who wins...
The Soldiers in the interior of the Circle are at a Disadvantage.A Head-on Normal Fight would have been More Fair.50 Janissaries cost 5000 Food and 1250 Coins while 50 Musketeers cost 3750 Food and 1250 Coins.So Musketeers are Cheaper plus they Deal more Ranged Damage but have 85 Less HP.The Lesser Amount of HP for the Musketeers also means that the Musketeers have less Chances of Success against the Janissaries but if the Cost of the all the Musketeers equaled to the Whole Amount of Resources required for 50 Janissaries(6250)then we are Talking about 50 Janissaries vs 62,5 Musketeers.Conclusion : Musketeers are Cheaper,Have better Ranged Damage and Better Against Cavalry(+ They will usually have a numerical Superiority Against Janissaries,but if they Have the Same or Less Numbers they will most likely lose)
@luipaardinho
Ottomans have abus guns, too. They might be considered as infantry, as well.
sign, try doing that instead of putting musketeer, replacing them with voyager and see the different
the midle ones are in disavantage, put the janissarys in the middle, they will almost loose.
I like the cheering at the end of the battle!!
yeah its a nice AoE3 touch
You have to compare the unit cost per unit in the total view. This video clearly shows how strong the jans are, but remember the health they have and the negative side with it is that they cost more. Just wanted to say this so people dont compare them only from the stats, resources is the most important thing in a game :P But still, the Jans rock!:D
Janissaries are a royal guard unit. You can't compare a royal guard unit to a normal unit. Janissaries and Red coats would be a better comparison.
i think its cool how they cheer at the end, the first time i heard it when i played i was like wtf?
Janissaries are the best musketeer unit around but - theyre heavy infantry. Getting some skirmishers or cassadores would own them so bad. Even strelky would have a go at them in large enough numbers.
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Janissaries use more food to be produced. 75x100=7500 food for the janissaries to be produced, and 85x75=6375 food for the Musketeers. In order to make it fair, both of the armies should use the same amount of resources. That means 100 Musks vs 75 Janissaries. This video is wrong and biased, and doesn't prove Janissaries are better than musks.
do one with albus guns, these things are just indestructible
Awsome vid, try taking on fully upgraded Imperial Redcoats, I'm sure the result would be different.
You should do another one but make janissaries vs Black watch.
Do a video without the flank. 75 Muskets fully upgraded and 75 Jannisaries fully upgraded to Imperial. Then let them have at it. See ya Jannisaries
first of all... the strategic placement of the janisaries helps a lot in the fight...
ever heard about .... SHIT WE'RE SURROUNDED ?
@pgarda Well The Janissaries or Yeni-Ceri are of multiple ethnic backround, they consist of Bulgarians, Greeks, Romanians, Macedonians, Albanians Bosnians, Hungarians, Croats and other SE europeans cause in the early days of the Ottoman Empire the sultan couldnt recruit "Already born muslims" since many other muslim factions were jealous and enemies of the ottomans and those children might 2Xcross the sultan and go back to their clan loyalties and therefore were not trust worthy.
@Bummblebee56 I think Jans actually have more attack than musk but cost more, in a map editor jans would fair batter if they were outnumbered by only 10 but in a real game musk could get the upperhand by outnumbering jans by 2 to 1.
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@BayKaramela I'm sorry but what?! I did not say Ottoman Empire in reality was a fail civilisation
No Way by any standards they lasted 500 years from 1250-1700 and were the most powerful Muslim state investing on Trade and produce with a fierce army ( jans ) But in AoE They're a fail anyway they are an easy civ. I don't think the Ottomans were a "fail" they were a magnificent civilisation and i'm reserching it for university now by the way, Don't confuse gaming with reality. Now go play CoD.
Janissaries are EXPENSIVE, UESLESS ( in the endgame ) and xp giveaway
British and Portugese musketeers own Janissaries endgame
Other non musketeer civs ( inc russia spain france ) have their own way of defeating
Dutch French and Germans have best skirms Russia have strelets and Spain have Garrochistas. If you're playing as any european civ pretty much any civ has a quick eay to counter janissaries. Ottomans are a fail civ anyway L2P without free villagers and age2 artillary ;) Dutch>Ottomans
@rachelloverdog lol you mean jan > musketeer.
also...i disagree that mass targeting wins battles because it in fact wastes bullets on targets that are already dying. whereas the computer will generally spread out fire evenly among the enemy, which assures optimal efficiency.
mass targeting works with very small armies because if you kill one unit, its one less unit attacking you and you wont waste as many shots.
Even so that they were surrounded the Musks had more of an Advantage, for 1 there were more. That, and they were bunched together on the edge of the circle. Which made it easier for mass targeting. Mass Targetting is the only way to win a battle without a large difference in troops, or an unfair battle such as Cavalry vs Cannons.
Janisarries are simply better units, and with unique upgrades they can even quickly construct field barracks on the go. Good for siege reinforcements.
Jan < Musketeer
the big difference 'cos you win are these:
1. The position - It can appear stupid but the circle that the jannizeers compose is a help for them
2. Cost - 100 food an 25 gold for jann and 75 food and 25 gold for musketter.
3. Potience - The jannizeers are more also if the difference is very little and the musketters are abituated to rush with some arceers for defence...and janns have 235 points versus just 150 of the normal musk.
=)
you win for this! =)
You do realize that they probably only won because they had the advantage of surrounding the opponents.
@chino9312 Well if you went against 100 Strelets(Approx 70hp/each) with 30 Calvary(Approx 320hp/each) of course Strelets are going to lose. Take in the account that Calvary also swings faster than Strelets can reload. An even comparison would be Calvary against the Russian Cossacks. Or compare the Strelets to a smaller group of Musketeers or Skirmishers.
@suppermayro They did, in the campaign at least. 'Hoop throwers' . Light artillery infantry with 4x attack vs Janissaries. Had to laugh though -I 've read up the history of all the units in the game, which are all genuine, but there is no mention whatsoever of any soldier throughout history called a "Hoop thrower."
jans are more expensive then musks + ottomans eco isnt as good as other civ's...
so it makes sense that jans are stronger in the beginning. Besides, the position of the units in this vid is not fair + in the second fight the jans are microed (some in melee) which is a huge adavantage, since they trapped the musks...
@TheWEBguyzContact this is true but in a rush situation you have to consider the timing. with russians, you cant start building a unit until you have the resources for all 5. for otto you can start when you have enough resource for 1 and by the time you have enough for 5, they will be made. + jans trains just as fast so you'll actually have like 15 jans v 20 strelets.
But if they are fully upgraded and you play with the English when 100 against 75 the musceteers beat them
lol, Tha janisarries cost he difference more. Highlanders are worth it though they beat 3 musketeers.
Yeah, i always use ottoman...janissaries
is the best unit, but spahi is better...to
bad that spahi only can get from homecity..but i already know how to make spahi recruitable from stable with moding..huhuhu
try this: same numbers, but change the positions, janns in the middle and muskets surrounding... thatll show their true power.
and for the record, if i was controlling those musketeers, i woulda won... not hard, just focus on one side, regroup, and finish the rest of the janns
@LiezAllLiez actually, the trick is, to go melee when you fight against: Cassadores, Skirmisher, Strelets and Abus gun. Because there melee is poor and have low health and have only shot resistance they will lose in melee very hard, but if you're too stupid to go ranged against them, your men will die!
@Bummblebee56 this actually doesn't contribute as much as you would think. it matters more if the surrounded unit is uses melee because it would mean that the units in the middle will not be able to attack but will get shot. for muskets, the jans are all in range.
If you had the Ottomans within the circle and the rest on the outside, the opposite would have happened.
The people on the inside (the musketeers) couldn't shoot the Janissaries on the outside due to range while the Janissaries had full contact with the musketeers.
Ok, jennisaries can beat musketers, but try with the caçadors of the portugueses.
they are the best rifleman in the game -.-and has the larger shot range too so. Try that but this time do not make a circle and put the caçadors in the middle,
@FlamingTricycle Screw Skirmishers. Longbowmen have the greatest infantry range in the game. Plus they don't have as low of hit points like cassadors and skirmishers. Imperial upgrades make them the greatest in-wall defenders by the Imperial Age.
The Janissaries are not THAT strong really. You just had the Muskets surrounded.
:P
Skirmishers are truly the best ranged infantry.
Muskets have only 12 range.
Janissaries are stupid (at least on my computer)
Their A.I. is easily confused.
@MovieTributeArtist Which is just like the Russians who throw out thousands of troops on the frontline and dominate the war. An example would be why Strelets are so numberous even if a tad bit weaker than the rest.
@eddieoxford Did i just read: "Ottoman Empire a fail civilization" ? Go read some history and get your facts straight, before concluding mate. Seems you ignore the supremacy of the ottomans 500 years ago. What a shame
The Ottomans were great because they had a Caliph, the leader of the muslims. They were a caliphate, and ALL caliphates pwn3d!
When they became less religious and then secular eventually, their power lessend.
@Bummblebee56 if you look on AoE3 history, they say the musketeer and the janissarys are the same. but i dont know if thats true cuz i am not a janissary, just an regular turkish guy on the dang internet!
@mementoVmori
You need to research the history of the Ottoman Caliphate and the religiousness of it at the same time. You will come to the same conclusion. By the way I am 13 and yeah...
@boogercrAp88
Better and more expensive.
@DillontehHAXer It's possible, but Skirmishers have low attack and defence, but with a long range to make up for it, the janissaries are just all round badasses.
lol try yourself, the outcome wont be different, i used british while my brother played with otto's, we did 100 janissaries vs 100 imperial redcoats, the result was: 47 janissaries left
1.Janissaries as twice as much as muscketeers
2.Janissaries are on the outside -> huge advantage !
3.If the point was that the janissaries are better,you're..let's say "a noob" !
@NotAnyoneSpecial agreed, and also the janissaries have about 80 more hitpoints and a bigger attack than musketeers when not upgraded. i would like to see janassaries vs. skirmishers
No it wouldn't the musketeers and jannisaries attack only 1 person focus only on one if they are siege which attack more than one than yeah the middle would of lost but they aren't
i did this same exact thing with 5 more musketeers and did what you said put the musketeers on the outside of the ring and there were mor janisarries left then there was in this video
@11ozzy11 yes we dont wanted istanbul or konstantinoupoli back.GREECE because we have democracy in this time, we do not have a policy of expansion as well and the Republic of Turkey
@ayuprnkcller well idont think so cause if you watch you can see that all musks are shooting. its really a bit unfair but janns would also win if they would be in the circle
22edwardr. Trust me, janissaries are significantly better than musketeers.
And the spanish musketers are average... A full upgraded army of british musketeers WILL defeat a fully upgraded army of janissaries, no question there my friend.
nyways jans r better becuz dey hav an upper hand in meelee
hu cares abt da cost nd xp gained
just njy the game !!!
all i wanna say is da game roks!!!
@chino9312 If it was Imperial Musks v Imperial Jans. The Musks would win. especially if it were Portuguese/British/ Spanish Unction/Ashi/Sepoy
@miketheninja1 im not sure if they would win inthe fair fight thats why i looked at this video but i totally agree with u in every other thing
Jans are stronger than muskets but they have a 2x multiplier vs cavalry while muskets have 3x, ottomans have the worst anti-cav in the game.
Being surrounded literally means 1 musketeer shoots at 1 jani at maximum range but 4-5 janissaries could shoot at 1 musketeer.
but then i would spawn heavy cav to kill yo hussars and light to kill the abus guns. So my strategy can also change to counter yours.
1. How the fuck get those musketeers in 100-75 15xp for killing a jannisarie :S
2. If the janisaries would be boxed in, they would die
Try ur 75 janissaris against 10 horse guns., atillery always outplayed me as ottomans so i switched to french using genadarmes n musketeers
the reason janissaries win is because they are a mix between musketeers and skirmishers giving them a dmg bonus vs hev inf (musketeers)
I bet it was like that Battle of Waterloo movie where the English had the French surrounded.
"Would you like to surrender?"
"MERDE!"
upgrade the musketeer to imperial redcoat, and jannisary to guard whatever(i paly as british not ottoman)I with germany had musketeers...