*Series:* th-cam.com/play/PLzcoQ_vebs-T2HiyFRu1TzCiioISLXLRq.html *Mrs. Gardiner's letter to Elizabeth* _“Gracechurch Street, Sept. 6._ _“My dear Niece,_ _“I have just received your letter, and shall devote this whole morning to answering it, as I foresee that a little writing will not comprise what I have to tell you. I must confess myself surprised by your application; I did not expect it from you. Don’t think me angry, however, for I only mean to let you know, that I had not imagined such inquiries to be necessary on your side. If you do not choose to understand me, forgive my impertinence. Your uncle is as much surprised as I am; and nothing but the belief of your being a party concerned would have allowed him to act as he has done. But if you are really innocent and ignorant, I must be more explicit._ _"On the very day of my coming home from Longbourn, your uncle had a most unexpected visitor. Mr. Darcy called, and was shut up with him several hours. It was all over before I arrived; so my curiosity was not so dreadfully racked as yours seems to have been. He came to tell Mr. Gardiner that he had found out where your sister and Mr. Wickham were, and that he had seen and talked with them both-Wickham repeatedly, Lydia once. From what I can collect, he left Derbyshire only one day after ourselves, and came to town with the resolution of hunting for them. The motive professed was his conviction of its being owing to himself that Wickham’s worthlessness had not been so well known as to make it impossible for any young woman of character to love or confide in him. He generously imputed the whole to his mistaken pride, and confessed that he had before thought it beneath him to lay his private actions open to the world. His character was to speak for itself. He called it, therefore, his duty to step forward, and endeavour to remedy an evil which had been brought on by himself. If he had another motive, I am sure it would never disgrace him. He had been some days in town before he was able to discover them; but he had something to direct his search, which was more than we had; and the consciousness of this was another reason for his resolving to follow us._ _"There is a lady, it seems, a Mrs. Younge, who was some time ago governess to Miss Darcy, and was dismissed from her charge on some cause of disapprobation, though he did not say what. She then took a large house in Edward Street, and has since maintained herself by letting lodgings. This Mrs. Younge was, he knew, intimately acquainted with Wickham; and he went to her for intelligence of him, as soon as he got to town. But it was two or three days before he could get from her what he wanted. She would not betray her trust, I suppose, without bribery and corruption, for she really did know where her friend was to be found. Wickham, indeed, had gone to her on their first arrival in London; and had she been able to receive them into her house, they would have taken up their abode with her. At length, however, our kind friend procured the wished-for direction. They were in -- Street. He saw Wickham, and afterwards insisted on seeing Lydia. His first object with her, he acknowledged, had been to persuade her to quit her present disgraceful situation, and return to her friends as soon as they could be prevailed on to receive her, offering his assistance as far as it would go. But he found Lydia absolutely resolved on remaining where she was. She cared for none of her friends; she wanted no help of his; she would not hear of leaving Wickham. She was sure they should be married some time or other, and it did not much signify when. Since such were her feelings, it only remained, he thought, to secure and expedite a marriage, which, in his very first conversation with Wickham, he easily learnt had never been his design. He confessed himself obliged to leave the regiment on account of some debts of honour which were very pressing; and scrupled not to lay all the ill consequences of Lydia’s flight on her own folly alone. He meant to resign his commission immediately; and as to his future situation, he could conjecture very little about it. He must go somewhere, but he did not know where, and he knew he should have nothing to live on._ _"Mr. Darcy asked him why he did not marry your sister at once. Though Mr. Bennet was not imagined to be very rich, he would have been able to do something for him, and his situation must have been benefited by marriage. But he found, in reply to this question, that Wickham still cherished the hope of more effectually making his fortune by marriage, in some other country. Under such circumstances, however, he was not likely to be proof against the temptation of immediate relief._ _"They met several times, for there was much to be discussed. Wickham, of course, wanted more than he could get; but at length was reduced to be reasonable._ _"Everything being settled between them, Mr. Darcy’s next step was to make your uncle acquainted with it, and he first called in Gracechurch Street the evening before I came home. But Mr. Gardiner could not be seen; and Mr. Darcy found, on further inquiry, that your father was still with him, but would quit town the next morning. He did not judge your father to be a person whom he could so properly consult as your uncle, and therefore readily postponed seeing him till after the departure of the former. He did not leave his name, and till the next day it was only known that a gentleman had called on business._ _"On Saturday he came again. Your father was gone, your uncle at home, and, as I said before, they had a great deal of talk together._ _"They met again on Sunday, and then I saw him too. It was not all settled before Monday: as soon as it was, the express was sent off to Longbourn. But our visitor was very obstinate. I fancy, Lizzy, that obstinacy is the real defect of his character, after all. He has been accused of many faults at different times; but this is the true one. Nothing was to be done that he did not do himself; though I am sure (and I do not speak it to be thanked, therefore say nothing about it) your uncle would most readily have settled the whole._ _"They battled it together for a long time, which was more than either the gentleman or lady concerned in it deserved. But at last your uncle was forced to yield, and instead of being allowed to be of use to his niece, was forced to put up with only having the probable credit of it, which went sorely against the grain; and I really believe your letter this morning gave him great pleasure, because it required an explanation that would rob him of his borrowed feathers, and give the praise where it was due. But, Lizzy, this must go no further than yourself, or Jane at most._ _"You know pretty well, I suppose, what has been done for the young people. His debts are to be paid, amounting, I believe, to considerably more than a thousand pounds, another thousand in addition to her own settled upon her, and his commission purchased. The reason why all this was to be done by him alone, was such as I have given above. It was owing to him, to his reserve and want of proper consideration, that Wickham’s character had been so misunderstood, and consequently that he had been received and noticed as he was. Perhaps there was some truth in this; though I doubt whether his reserve, or anybody’s reserve can be answerable for the event. But in spite of all this fine talking, my dear Lizzy, you may rest perfectly assured that your uncle would never have yielded, if we had not given him credit for another interest in the affair._ _"When all this was resolved on, he returned again to his friends, who were still staying at Pemberley; but it was agreed that he should be in London once more when the wedding took place, and all money matters were then to receive the last finish._ _"I believe I have now told you everything. It is a relation which you tell me is to give you great surprise; I hope at least it will not afford you any displeasure. Lydia came to us, and Wickham had constant admission to the house. He was exactly what he had been when I knew him in Hertfordshire; but I would not tell you how little I was satisfied with her behaviour while she stayed with us, if I had not perceived, by Jane’s letter last Wednesday, that her conduct on coming home was exactly of a piece with it, and therefore what I now tell you can give you no fresh pain. I talked to her repeatedly in the most serious manner, representing to her the wickedness of what she had done, and all the unhappiness she had brought on her family. If she heard me, it was by good luck, for I am sure she did not listen. I was sometimes quite provoked; but then I recollected my dear Elizabeth and Jane, and for their sakes had patience with her._ _"Mr. Darcy was punctual in his return, and, as Lydia imformed you, attended the wedding. He dined with us the next day, and was to leave town again on Wednesday or Thursday. Will you be very angry with me, my dear Lizzy, if I take this opportunity of saying (what I was never bold enough to say before) how much I like him? His behaviour to us has, in every respect, been as pleasing as when we were in Derbyshire. His understanding and opinions all please me; he wants nothing but a little more liveliness, and that, if he marry prudently, his wife may teach him. I thought him very sly; he hardly ever mentioned your name. But slyness seems the fashion._ _"Pray forgive me, if I have been very presuming, or at least do not punish me so far as to exclude me from P. I shall never be quite happy till I have been all round the park. A low phaeton with a nice little pair of ponies would be the very thing._ _"But I must write no more. The children have been wanting me this half hour._ _“Yours, very sincerely,_ _“M. Gardiner.”_ *_Pride & Prejudice, Chapter 52_*
It's always so much fun to compare the different versions. of P&P. The Italian and Dutch adaptations really given Darcy and Wickham a big chance to reveal more of their characters, or lack thereof. Thank you so much for sharing this and all the other episodes!
The liberties the Italian and Dutch versions took with the story were actually very good, particularly the italian version where the scriptwriter just went for it.
Other favorite moments: watching Ramses Schaffey as Darcy explaining to Mrs. Gardiner how he tracked the runaways down, and trying to imagine the equivalent scene in the lost 1950s BBC versions. Watching Lewis Fiander try to shake off Lydia when she gets huggy. The general "Darcy's coming, and Hell's coming with him!" vibe of the 1995 scene. (I was very disappointed as a young adult that we didn't get to see what promised to be a fun Darcy vs Wickham confrontation in 1995, and perhaps some of my over-indulgence towards the Italians comes from that.)
TH-cam ate my comment about how satisfying it is to see Italian Darcy growl at Italian Wickham, so just posting a different, less violently worded version.
TH-cam's comment moderation mechanism can be excessive and nonsensical at times. There was this one time I was trying to post a text excerpt from "Persuasion" for one of the videos in the old channel, and TH-cam kept swallowing it. Since it was rather long extract, it took me many tries to finally figure out the "offensive" word that was triggering it. It was a rather innocuous word in Austen context really, just that it happened to have some other meanings as well in modern times. I forgot the particular "offending" word though..
Ha ha, No. 😄 I remember that it was from the part where Anne meets Admiral Croft in the streets of Bath, and Admiral says something. Perhaps it was the words "queer" or "cockleshell" which the Admiral uses while describing the model of a boat at the shop window, but not quite sure. It was some unremarkable word of the kind, which was why it took me some time to figure it out.
Not in the novel. Because Darcy and Wickham aren't POV characters in the novel. If they were, we'd know Darcy is a decent man, and Wickham is a villain posing as a decent man. Austen writes mostly from Elizabeth's POV. Because the story centers around her learning to see past outward facades to the real person lying beneath. Both are handsome enough. Elizabeth isn't prejudiced for or against someone on the basis of financial means, having little herself. She's still very young, and quite perceptive for her age, but at times she still falls for the image people create around themselves--while many rich people she meets see no need to pretend they care about any interests other than their own, a rascal like Wickham has to hide his true nature. Seeing Darcy away from his home (where his servants all think well of him, meaning he's never unkind or abusive with them), she forms an incomplete opinion of him as a person. Darcy also changes in the book, also learns to understand people better. But it's much more about Elizabeth--she is the protagonist, the hero. Not Darcy.
The Italian and German versions of the scene with Darcy and Wickham showed the truly debased character of Mr Wickham in contrast to the virtuous forbearance of Mr Darcy.
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*Mrs. Gardiner's letter to Elizabeth*
_“Gracechurch Street, Sept. 6._
_“My dear Niece,_
_“I have just received your letter, and shall devote this whole morning to answering it, as I foresee that a little writing will not comprise what I have to tell you. I must confess myself surprised by your application; I did not expect it from you. Don’t think me angry, however, for I only mean to let you know, that I had not imagined such inquiries to be necessary on your side. If you do not choose to understand me, forgive my impertinence. Your uncle is as much surprised as I am; and nothing but the belief of your being a party concerned would have allowed him to act as he has done. But if you are really innocent and ignorant, I must be more explicit._
_"On the very day of my coming home from Longbourn, your uncle had a most unexpected visitor. Mr. Darcy called, and was shut up with him several hours. It was all over before I arrived; so my curiosity was not so dreadfully racked as yours seems to have been. He came to tell Mr. Gardiner that he had found out where your sister and Mr. Wickham were, and that he had seen and talked with them both-Wickham repeatedly, Lydia once. From what I can collect, he left Derbyshire only one day after ourselves, and came to town with the resolution of hunting for them. The motive professed was his conviction of its being owing to himself that Wickham’s worthlessness had not been so well known as to make it impossible for any young woman of character to love or confide in him. He generously imputed the whole to his mistaken pride, and confessed that he had before thought it beneath him to lay his private actions open to the world. His character was to speak for itself. He called it, therefore, his duty to step forward, and endeavour to remedy an evil which had been brought on by himself. If he had another motive, I am sure it would never disgrace him. He had been some days in town before he was able to discover them; but he had something to direct his search, which was more than we had; and the consciousness of this was another reason for his resolving to follow us._
_"There is a lady, it seems, a Mrs. Younge, who was some time ago governess to Miss Darcy, and was dismissed from her charge on some cause of disapprobation, though he did not say what. She then took a large house in Edward Street, and has since maintained herself by letting lodgings. This Mrs. Younge was, he knew, intimately acquainted with Wickham; and he went to her for intelligence of him, as soon as he got to town. But it was two or three days before he could get from her what he wanted. She would not betray her trust, I suppose, without bribery and corruption, for she really did know where her friend was to be found. Wickham, indeed, had gone to her on their first arrival in London; and had she been able to receive them into her house, they would have taken up their abode with her. At length, however, our kind friend procured the wished-for direction. They were in -- Street. He saw Wickham, and afterwards insisted on seeing Lydia. His first object with her, he acknowledged, had been to persuade her to quit her present disgraceful situation, and return to her friends as soon as they could be prevailed on to receive her, offering his assistance as far as it would go. But he found Lydia absolutely resolved on remaining where she was. She cared for none of her friends; she wanted no help of his; she would not hear of leaving Wickham. She was sure they should be married some time or other, and it did not much signify when. Since such were her feelings, it only remained, he thought, to secure and expedite a marriage, which, in his very first conversation with Wickham, he easily learnt had never been his design. He confessed himself obliged to leave the regiment on account of some debts of honour which were very pressing; and scrupled not to lay all the ill consequences of Lydia’s flight on her own folly alone. He meant to resign his commission immediately; and as to his future situation, he could conjecture very little about it. He must go somewhere, but he did not know where, and he knew he should have nothing to live on._
_"Mr. Darcy asked him why he did not marry your sister at once. Though Mr. Bennet was not imagined to be very rich, he would have been able to do something for him, and his situation must have been benefited by marriage. But he found, in reply to this question, that Wickham still cherished the hope of more effectually making his fortune by marriage, in some other country. Under such circumstances, however, he was not likely to be proof against the temptation of immediate relief._
_"They met several times, for there was much to be discussed. Wickham, of course, wanted more than he could get; but at length was reduced to be reasonable._
_"Everything being settled between them, Mr. Darcy’s next step was to make your uncle acquainted with it, and he first called in Gracechurch Street the evening before I came home. But Mr. Gardiner could not be seen; and Mr. Darcy found, on further inquiry, that your father was still with him, but would quit town the next morning. He did not judge your father to be a person whom he could so properly consult as your uncle, and therefore readily postponed seeing him till after the departure of the former. He did not leave his name, and till the next day it was only known that a gentleman had called on business._
_"On Saturday he came again. Your father was gone, your uncle at home, and, as I said before, they had a great deal of talk together._
_"They met again on Sunday, and then I saw him too. It was not all settled before Monday: as soon as it was, the express was sent off to Longbourn. But our visitor was very obstinate. I fancy, Lizzy, that obstinacy is the real defect of his character, after all. He has been accused of many faults at different times; but this is the true one. Nothing was to be done that he did not do himself; though I am sure (and I do not speak it to be thanked, therefore say nothing about it) your uncle would most readily have settled the whole._
_"They battled it together for a long time, which was more than either the gentleman or lady concerned in it deserved. But at last your uncle was forced to yield, and instead of being allowed to be of use to his niece, was forced to put up with only having the probable credit of it, which went sorely against the grain; and I really believe your letter this morning gave him great pleasure, because it required an explanation that would rob him of his borrowed feathers, and give the praise where it was due. But, Lizzy, this must go no further than yourself, or Jane at most._
_"You know pretty well, I suppose, what has been done for the young people. His debts are to be paid, amounting, I believe, to considerably more than a thousand pounds, another thousand in addition to her own settled upon her, and his commission purchased. The reason why all this was to be done by him alone, was such as I have given above. It was owing to him, to his reserve and want of proper consideration, that Wickham’s character had been so misunderstood, and consequently that he had been received and noticed as he was. Perhaps there was some truth in this; though I doubt whether his reserve, or anybody’s reserve can be answerable for the event. But in spite of all this fine talking, my dear Lizzy, you may rest perfectly assured that your uncle would never have yielded, if we had not given him credit for another interest in the affair._
_"When all this was resolved on, he returned again to his friends, who were still staying at Pemberley; but it was agreed that he should be in London once more when the wedding took place, and all money matters were then to receive the last finish._
_"I believe I have now told you everything. It is a relation which you tell me is to give you great surprise; I hope at least it will not afford you any displeasure. Lydia came to us, and Wickham had constant admission to the house. He was exactly what he had been when I knew him in Hertfordshire; but I would not tell you how little I was satisfied with her behaviour while she stayed with us, if I had not perceived, by Jane’s letter last Wednesday, that her conduct on coming home was exactly of a piece with it, and therefore what I now tell you can give you no fresh pain. I talked to her repeatedly in the most serious manner, representing to her the wickedness of what she had done, and all the unhappiness she had brought on her family. If she heard me, it was by good luck, for I am sure she did not listen. I was sometimes quite provoked; but then I recollected my dear Elizabeth and Jane, and for their sakes had patience with her._
_"Mr. Darcy was punctual in his return, and, as Lydia imformed you, attended the wedding. He dined with us the next day, and was to leave town again on Wednesday or Thursday. Will you be very angry with me, my dear Lizzy, if I take this opportunity of saying (what I was never bold enough to say before) how much I like him? His behaviour to us has, in every respect, been as pleasing as when we were in Derbyshire. His understanding and opinions all please me; he wants nothing but a little more liveliness, and that, if he marry prudently, his wife may teach him. I thought him very sly; he hardly ever mentioned your name. But slyness seems the fashion._
_"Pray forgive me, if I have been very presuming, or at least do not punish me so far as to exclude me from P. I shall never be quite happy till I have been all round the park. A low phaeton with a nice little pair of ponies would be the very thing._
_"But I must write no more. The children have been wanting me this half hour._
_“Yours, very sincerely,_
_“M. Gardiner.”_
*_Pride & Prejudice, Chapter 52_*
It's always so much fun to compare the different versions. of P&P. The Italian and Dutch adaptations really given Darcy and Wickham a big chance to reveal more of their characters, or lack thereof. Thank you so much for sharing this and all the other episodes!
The liberties the Italian and Dutch versions took with the story were actually very good, particularly the italian version where the scriptwriter just went for it.
Other favorite moments: watching Ramses Schaffey as Darcy explaining to Mrs. Gardiner how he tracked the runaways down, and trying to imagine the equivalent scene in the lost 1950s BBC versions. Watching Lewis Fiander try to shake off Lydia when she gets huggy. The general "Darcy's coming, and Hell's coming with him!" vibe of the 1995 scene. (I was very disappointed as a young adult that we didn't get to see what promised to be a fun Darcy vs Wickham confrontation in 1995, and perhaps some of my over-indulgence towards the Italians comes from that.)
TH-cam ate my comment about how satisfying it is to see Italian Darcy growl at Italian Wickham, so just posting a different, less violently worded version.
TH-cam's comment moderation mechanism can be excessive and nonsensical at times. There was this one time I was trying to post a text excerpt from "Persuasion" for one of the videos in the old channel, and TH-cam kept swallowing it. Since it was rather long extract, it took me many tries to finally figure out the "offensive" word that was triggering it. It was a rather innocuous word in Austen context really, just that it happened to have some other meanings as well in modern times. I forgot the particular "offending" word though..
@@Love.and.Freindship was it the man named Richard who served under Wentworth?
Ha ha, No. 😄 I remember that it was from the part where Anne meets Admiral Croft in the streets of Bath, and Admiral says something. Perhaps it was the words "queer" or "cockleshell" which the Admiral uses while describing the model of a boat at the shop window, but not quite sure. It was some unremarkable word of the kind, which was why it took me some time to figure it out.
I like Darcy threatening with the ‘gendarmerie commissioner’.
Not in the novel. Because Darcy and Wickham aren't POV characters in the novel. If they were, we'd know Darcy is a decent man, and Wickham is a villain posing as a decent man. Austen writes mostly from Elizabeth's POV. Because the story centers around her learning to see past outward facades to the real person lying beneath. Both are handsome enough. Elizabeth isn't prejudiced for or against someone on the basis of financial means, having little herself. She's still very young, and quite perceptive for her age, but at times she still falls for the image people create around themselves--while many rich people she meets see no need to pretend they care about any interests other than their own, a rascal like Wickham has to hide his true nature. Seeing Darcy away from his home (where his servants all think well of him, meaning he's never unkind or abusive with them), she forms an incomplete opinion of him as a person.
Darcy also changes in the book, also learns to understand people better. But it's much more about Elizabeth--she is the protagonist, the hero. Not Darcy.
This is why i love the 1995 adaptation.. The way Mr.darcy made an effort to find lydia.
The Italian and German versions of the scene with Darcy and Wickham showed the truly debased character of Mr Wickham in contrast to the virtuous forbearance of Mr Darcy.