I used to run a Stanko mill at work a few years back, one day while running it there was a massive bang and you could hear bits raining down from the top end of the mill down into the base, obviously I hit the E-Stop, we pulled that machine apart and could only find what looked to be the remnants of a gear, we had no clue where it came from or what it did but it ran exactly the same after the bang as it did before, she was accurate too for an old girl. It still amazes me how Russia put a man in space with the quirky way some of these mills are designed, our maintenance guy had to re-learn everything to support the running of all the Russian machines, when asked what was wrong with a machine his favourite saying was "sh1t on the contacts" so I asked him "how often do I have to do that then?"
Hello from Latvia! I have same factory machine: Stanko 6T12. Those machines are build by Gorky Milling Machine Plant. And get imported by Stankoimport worldwide. I still have dream to get one of 6T82W or 6T83W. In ex-USSR countrys this machine model is 6T83Ш (Sh). The "W" or "Ш" (Sh) in machine model means "Wide universal". I have bad experience with the automatic control in 38:20 - after I jerk few of those switches, and somewhere in circuit lost conection and that was cause of machine malfunction. Problem was: malfunction in table feeds switching ON. I call for electrian engineer and he demounted that system. Good luck with machine repairs!
I always liked the concept of the Vertical/Horizontal combination Milling machine. It also appears that there has been no fuckery involved with the wiring in the control cabinet...A nice bonus me thinks. Obtaining the original Commie technical paperwork for the machine in English is pure good luck. It is so nice to have drawings and explanations of how systems work. Olga is a Russian beauty and her pin bosses are a long way from hitting the rollers!. Cheers matey.
I've been waiting to see Olga ever since you moved her from your old storage shed. That's one great machine Max in superb condition. Amazed at how clean it was inside. Good content, looking forward to more. 👍 Cheers Tony
Stanko big olga. Always impressed with the size of the machines. Very well engineered. Found the lathe also is build solid. That milling table is huge.
Hi Max. Super view to a massive construct. The documents with type of steel used, amazing as you managed to find them. *As all the critical dimensions and diagrams. Also, the lever position as control feature. *settings to end use. I am guessing the work dimensions as large, and where the operator skilled at set up could manage large work smoothly. Fast, large cuts as process. Truly, Max, your shop is taking shape and I am delighted to have the chance to learn about this machine. Thanks for that view by your hand. M.
Gday Max, that’s a beautiful mill, incredible how clean it is and to have the complete manuals is a rare thing and an interesting story on how you got them, you could almost class this a semi CNC with the automatic table movements, great video max, cheers
Lol , Cheers Matty . It would fit right in your shed , just ignore the neighbours when they ask why their lights keep flickering ! Bloody lucky to get those manuals , otherwise the electrics would be an absolute nightmare . 👍
They also made "Red Proletarian" lathes...lmao. Jokes aside all of the Soviet sympathizer Bulgarian mills I worked on were really great machines with all the capabilities one would expect out of a universal mill (they also made quill versions of it for lighter milling and drilling), and it had tons of provisions to facilitate dissasembly and speed up repairs (eg all blindly mounted bearings in the vertical attachment I rebuilt have threaded through holes behind their mounting shoulders to remove with screws from the back)
Normally, if you buy an old machine, you receive a lot of dirt and rust. But never the papers. So, indeed, you're very lucky to have the manuall for this one.
Great story and film , had it all for me , inc a DSG! always had good times with Russian stuff, mainly off road , finding the manuals at the end is the best way to end any story , just going through a grimy but stout Swiss mill a LUTHY LF10 Similar jobs to do and identical grime in the sumps where it belongs , orange is the colour inside too! .need to flush all the old grease that seems to appear in the oil ways of so many machines! Took the covers off the base of my mill and found …..a complete D’andrea TA 120 boring head , almost new, happy endings are sweet.
25 years ago, or so, Great Britain started renewing and selling off by the container load, milling machines and lathes, grinders and other machine tools, manufactured in Britain and Europe, the finish quality the world has know. I was fortunate to buy a Hure, French milling machine, here in Canada, from a West coast dealer who was selling lots of machines.
It is also surprising how chips get packed back under a lathe headstock. I also keep up with Cuuting Edge Engineering. He works on some big iron pieces mostly by himself. Very impressive talent that young man has.AL B.in Ohio.
Hey Max, greetings from the other side. Good to see you making progress, yes the Russian machines are very well built. I have a 1971 Stankoimport Tool & Cutter Grinder, beautifully made. I had the same deal with my HURON with chips under the ram but thankfully the design doesn't jam up but did get a good clean up. All the best.
Cheers Graham . I had someone from over your side contact me about sharpening some John Heine press punches . I emailed him back to look you up on the web . 👍
Damn! I’ve never seen that level of detail on a machine anywhere and I’ve seen a lot of machines in the 55 years I’ve been working on then. The Soviets seem to have gotten something right. It’s a really nice machine.
It's a nice machine . Full mechanical feeds instead of electrics & clutches would be my option but the large machines of that type are usually half knackered . Especially around my limited price range ! 👍
Max, you have no idea how good the timing is on this video. I recently got a new to me mill with a very similar layout and the ram is also very hard to move. I will be looking for stray swarf as the first thing that may be wrong with it. It's a lovely old Italian mill of 1966 vintage, ex university, without much use, but came with all the accessories, full dividing head, rotary table, slotting attachment, etc. I have never come across the make before, Ingers if anyone knows of them. I'd already decided she would be called Sophia.
Used a stanko slab mill just like that had universal mill head on it, they are great machines tough as and built well Russian stuff gets a bad wrap but I think they are great.
The Stanko is very impressive Max. Certainly very heavy duty. Certainly has alot of very nice features. I know that you will have it up and running in Top shape in no time. It is nice that you were able to get the manuals for the machine. Good video Max. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. Take care, Ed.
@@swanvalleymachineshop Yes it does! Superbly versatile. Still working on mine.. power feed works on the spindle housing but not on the table, think it’s the clutch that needs adjusted.. hours of fun!
I'm going to enjoy this series on Olga. The guy I bought my HBM from has this same mill and from the outside at least it appears to be in great shape. I was wondering if the delay in turning off the feed motor has something to do with the automatic feed cycle system. When in automatic mode it is going to stop the feed say on the x axis, engage the y-axis feed, shift the table over, disengaged the y-axis, re-engage the x-axis in the opposite direction for the return cut etc. Having the feed motor turn off every time it tries to change axis/direction would probably cause problems. The z-axis turns off instantly, but this may be because it is not controlled by the automatic cycle system. Anyway it looks like you got a winner and I'm looking forward to see it make some swarf. Ken
Thanks for that Ken . It gives me another avenue to investigate , especially to make sure all auto functions are in the off position . I will have to go through the manual to find the master switch for those functions . Cheers 👍👍👍
If the company that purchased the machine new is like the company I worked for, they filed the manuals away somewhere and completely forgot about them. When we had to work on them we would ask if they had any manuals and they always said they didn't. One day they decided they wanted to move a cabinet so we started pulling things out to lighten the weight and found all of the manuals for forklifts and equipment were in that cabinet.
Such a cool machine. I would like to find a nice small vertical and horizontal "tool room" style mill at some point. Nothing as big as that one, but the features are really nice. EDIT: That documentation is SOLID GOLD! What a machine, what a find, congrats! EDIT EDIT: you take excellent care of your machines, I should be taking notes... 🤣
Great introduction to Olga Max! I had a few grins with the stuff you almost said 😂😂. That automation is like a very primitive peg board auto, looking forward to seeing you play with that. Built like a brick cow shed and in very nice condition where it matters, good buy mate. Cheers, Jon
It is interesting to think how a milling machine of such origin came into your hands? to Australia? Since I am a neighbor of Russia, this amazes me, because I have only seen a few benches for sale in my country for many years. But before long, I became the owner of a similar milling machine a few months ago, which is its predecessor 6Р82Ш. At the moment I am busy with cleaning and disassembly to identify errors that need immediate elimination. What's particularly interesting about this is that if you ever get to a vertical spindle angle reducer, I assume you'll have to replace the old grease with something as well. But it is not easy to find a replacement grease that is suitable for both spindle bearings and gears.
Thanks . There are a few of the same machines here . I will be looking for the same grease soon , or something that will do the job . Probably Castrol Spheerol SY2202 . I will check in the machine manual . Cheers 👍
Nice machine Max. I just wanted to comment on the wire bundle "string". It's very common in aviation to tie wire bundles together like that. It's much cheaper and more importantly much much lighter than using regular (Adel) clamps or even Zip ties. If you ever need to replace any of it just look for "wax lacing cord."
Thanks . I have only ever seen similar on Salami's ! Imagine a sparky trying to replicate that these days , he would have to employ the local butcher ! 👍
G'day Max. Olga looks a very beefy machine & once going, should be a big asset in Your Machinary House. That thick gasket material you showed, wondering if Its Permatex or the old Forma Gasket material. When you pulled the top covers off & showed us the gear train, I thought that the top gear just to left of centre had a small chip in it, or might have been a piece of gasket Looks like a very informative rebuild coming up. Great content, looking forward to the rest of the rebuild.
Hi Max Olga looks like a great machine. Early days of manual cnc programed on the machine, I can see alot if dry runs happing before you try to do machining with auto mode. Cheers
Great Video Max and very interesting explanations about the machine. Now, I do own a Stanko who is in a perfect state and that has never been used . But it comes only the instruction manual in Russian and I am wondering if I have any hopes to put my hand on an english version somewhere
The delay on the spindle stopping when using the front controller, I think, might indicate that the brake function switching is not operating when initiated by the front switch either the switch or the wiring to the switch. ? the side switch and the front switch I would think would be a parallel switching function. If it is a single switch operation from the side controller, it is either operating multiple relays, or more likely switching a common ground. Would like to see a circuit diagram of the controller, this from a retired tech who can’t let go.
The delay is with the feed motor staying on a few seconds after stopping the feed , only on the x & y axis . The feed stops instant but the motor stays on for a few seconds . Problem not present with the Z axis feeds . It happens on both control panels . Cheers 👍
happening on both control panels puts a different light on the problem, the motor braking I would think would be mechanical (clutch type) with a machine of that vintage, certainly, a problem to track down and enjoy the process doing so , the control circuit diagrams will be crucial in the diagnostic of the fault. @@swanvalleymachineshop
Olga was not made in Moscow. Such machines were produced in Nizhny Novgorod at the Gorky Milling Machine Plant. And stankoimort is a company that exported machines from the USSR
Thanks . I remember something about Stankoimport being machine dealers but never knew how it worked . So would Ryazan 1M63 & Stanko 1M63 be the same machines , just sold under a different name ? 👍
If only everything else in this world was built this well….built to last. Seems like everything today from cars, trucks, household appliances, etc…are built to last but only a few years. Then you have buy replacement parts or replace the whole machine because the repair cost exceeds the replacement cost.
Hi Max strong workhorse, built to last. Looking at the pneumatic timers there might be a problem. Ive got a Vernier height gauge made in USSR, well made.
Yep with knobs, they are adjustable timers, on delay or off delay. The rubber diaphragms fail, probably get similar timers from Radio Spares. Coincidentally I'm waiting for Thor copper rawhide mallet No 2 from RS Spore similar to the one your using.
Majstore moj veliki pozdrav za vaše predavanje koje je slikovito i jasno da li možete prikazati glodalicu Stankoimport 6P83W proizvodnje USSR, i tako opširno prikazati nam rukovanje sa njom. Puno vas pozdravljam i veliki pozdrav iz republike Hrvatske. Petar.
I used a Stanko vertical knee mill in 1978 in my first year as an apprentice, big step up, literally ( it had a step to reach the drawbar), from the mill I used at school. The company had several Stanko machines of different types, they had sold Brake shoe resistance welders (Welded the web to the platform), several years earlier, and since soviet Russia couldn't trade on the open market, so "Factoring" was needed, ref paid in part with milling machines. I think the term "A dog with 2 dicks" is apt here Max, ref too many machines to enjoy. Some of the early Soviet and east German machines had poor quality plastics, ref difficult to source modern materials, but definitely great engineering 👍 . Good useful machine 👍. Thanks for sharing
@@swanvalleymachineshop The problem is, we have a lot of admirers of, pardon, the majestic Anglofrance. Since this, even "official" rules of switching alphabet is a set of guidelines how to take a Slav language, and turn it into Russofranç or Rungliysky. V lûbom slučaê, vsêh blag Čelovêku truda, boljšoj-boljšoj privêt
I’m really surprised at the quality that was engineered into this machine. Always thought that thoughtful long lasting was a forgotten experience in the USSR. Obviously you did your homework before acquiring this workhorse.
I did the initial inspection when the machine was powered up . I was told the Russian export machines had to conform to a higher quality than their non export machines . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop There is not such thing as "the Russian export machines" quality. As there is not "USA export machines" quality. Or Chinese, by the way. Some companies or factories are making a good quality product, some not. Some USA-made product is a crap, some Chinese product is of the excellent quality. Of course all except quality of the USA and Russian cars - they are all crap, USA car crap is just bigger in size.
@@Ivan31212 "USSR [is] [my] motherland" - the correct version. USSR was a federation of15 socialist independent republics, so technically you are wrong since only one of them was your motherland. Also, the USSR doesn't exist anymore.
I used to run a Stanko mill at work a few years back, one day while running it there was a massive bang and you could hear bits raining down from the top end of the mill down into the base, obviously I hit the E-Stop, we pulled that machine apart and could only find what looked to be the remnants of a gear, we had no clue where it came from or what it did but it ran exactly the same after the bang as it did before, she was accurate too for an old girl. It still amazes me how Russia put a man in space with the quirky way some of these mills are designed, our maintenance guy had to re-learn everything to support the running of all the Russian machines, when asked what was wrong with a machine his favourite saying was "sh1t on the contacts" so I asked him "how often do I have to do that then?"
Lol , i hope i don't have to do that to Olgas contacts ! The foot pedal lube pump at the rear is a classic ! 👍
Hello from Latvia! I have same factory machine: Stanko 6T12. Those machines are build by Gorky Milling Machine Plant. And get imported by Stankoimport worldwide. I still have dream to get one of 6T82W or 6T83W. In ex-USSR countrys this machine model is 6T83Ш (Sh). The "W" or "Ш" (Sh) in machine model means "Wide universal". I have bad experience with the automatic control in 38:20 - after I jerk few of those switches, and somewhere in circuit lost conection and that was cause of machine malfunction. Problem was: malfunction in table feeds switching ON. I call for electrian engineer and he demounted that system.
Good luck with machine repairs!
Thanks . I can see the automatic control could be a bit of a worry ! Hey is Sunppaa still around ? Cheers 👍
Thanks for introducing me to OLGA
Lol , No worries . 👍
Thanks for the video Max. That was an unreal score getting them manuals. The mill looks in great condition. Have a good one 👍🇦🇺
Thanks . Yes the manuals are pure gold . 👍
I always liked the concept of the Vertical/Horizontal combination Milling machine. It also appears that there has been no fuckery involved with the wiring in the control cabinet...A nice bonus me thinks. Obtaining the original Commie technical paperwork for the machine in English is pure good luck. It is so nice to have drawings and explanations of how systems work. Olga is a Russian beauty and her pin bosses are a long way from hitting the rollers!. Cheers matey.
I think the project would be a real nightmare with no electrical schematics , a real stroke of luck ! 👍
I've been waiting to see Olga ever since you moved her from your old storage shed. That's one great machine Max in superb condition. Amazed at how clean it was inside. Good content, looking forward to more. 👍 Cheers Tony
Cheers Tony 👍
amazing how clean that machine is inside to say it's 34 years since it was last opened. really well built machine.
It is well built . Stanko have a pretty good reputation . 👍
Stanko big olga. Always impressed with the size of the machines. Very well engineered. Found the lathe also is build solid.
That milling table is huge.
I would have a Ryazan or Stanko IM63 lathe in a heartbeat ! 👍
Hi Max. Super view to a massive construct. The documents with type of steel used, amazing as you managed to find them. *As all the critical dimensions and diagrams. Also, the lever position as control feature. *settings to end use. I am guessing the work dimensions as large, and where the operator skilled at set up could manage large work smoothly. Fast, large cuts as process.
Truly, Max, your shop is taking shape and I am delighted to have the chance to learn about this machine. Thanks for that view by your hand. M.
Thanks . Yes this machine has a good size work envelope . 👍
Está fresadora se ve estupenda solo un ajuste un buen mantenimiento y funciona mejor👍👏amigo max
Thanks 👍
Gday Max, that’s a beautiful mill, incredible how clean it is and to have the complete manuals is a rare thing and an interesting story on how you got them, you could almost class this a semi CNC with the automatic table movements, great video max, cheers
Lol , Cheers Matty . It would fit right in your shed , just ignore the neighbours when they ask why their lights keep flickering ! Bloody lucky to get those manuals , otherwise the electrics would be an absolute nightmare . 👍
Red October was a perfect name for it. That beast is incredible!
Cheers 👍
They also made "Red Proletarian" lathes...lmao. Jokes aside all of the Soviet sympathizer Bulgarian mills I worked on were really great machines with all the capabilities one would expect out of a universal mill (they also made quill versions of it for lighter milling and drilling), and it had tons of provisions to facilitate dissasembly and speed up repairs (eg all blindly mounted bearings in the vertical attachment I rebuilt have threaded through holes behind their mounting shoulders to remove with screws from the back)
Thanks Max! 👍
No worries ! 👍
Very cool. Love the massive size of this machine. I cant wait to see it make some chips
Thanks 👍
That machine is a well-built monster and I bet it can take some deep cuts. Keep it mate.
I have been told they can move some serious material . It's a keeper ! 👍
Looks like she is in pretty good shape and will be a workhorse for you. Thx for the vid.
No worries . It should be a good thing . 👍
Another great video, Max. You can always investigate the ticking pump, if it stops ticking... Cheers.
That's for a future bit of digging ! 👍
Normally, if you buy an old machine, you receive a lot of dirt and rust. But never the papers. So, indeed, you're very lucky to have the manuall for this one.
Dirt , rust & problems usually ! 👍
As if you didn’t already have enough to do! Looking forward to seeing you work through this one too.
One day , i will get through them all ! Have to get the importiant ones going first 👍
Looks like you have a good machine there, congratulations, Jim
Thanks 👍
Great story and film , had it all for me , inc a DSG! always had good times with Russian stuff, mainly off road , finding the manuals at the end is the best way to end any story , just going through a grimy but stout Swiss mill a LUTHY LF10 Similar jobs to do and identical grime in the sumps where it belongs , orange is the colour inside too! .need to flush all the old grease that seems to appear in the oil ways of so many machines!
Took the covers off the base of my mill and found …..a complete D’andrea TA 120 boring head , almost new, happy endings are sweet.
What a win . I used to use a D'andrea head along time ago . From memory , it had a rapid traverse as well . 👍
25 years ago, or so, Great Britain started renewing and selling off by the container load, milling machines and lathes, grinders and other machine tools, manufactured in Britain and Europe, the finish quality the world has know. I was fortunate to buy a Hure, French milling machine, here in Canada, from a West coast dealer who was selling lots of machines.
It would have been good to be in a position to pick up some of those machines . 👍
The quality of some of the Russian and Eastern European machine is not to be sniffed at. They are good solid machines great for the bigger workshop….
This one seems very well built . 👍
It is also surprising how chips get packed back under a lathe headstock. I also keep up with Cuuting Edge Engineering. He works on some big iron pieces mostly by himself. Very impressive talent that young man has.AL B.in Ohio.
Thanks . The chips get in all sorts of places . 👍
For soviet era construction, it's made surprisingly well.
That it is ! 👍
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Cheers 👍👍👍
Hey Max, greetings from the other side. Good to see you making progress, yes the Russian machines are very well built. I have a 1971 Stankoimport Tool & Cutter Grinder, beautifully made. I had the same deal with my HURON with chips under the ram but thankfully the design doesn't jam up but did get a good clean up. All the best.
Cheers Graham . I had someone from over your side contact me about sharpening some John Heine press punches . I emailed him back to look you up on the web . 👍
Max you have a wealth of knowledge great video
Thanks 👍
It would be a good idea to scan the manuals for olga, and keep a copy /copies for safe keeping. It may even be information that some one else needs..
Maybe one day . 👍
Olga is a beast!
Just a bit ! 👍
Thanks Max. Looks like it was built for use.
Certainly was . 👍
She’s beautiful 👍👍😎👍👍
Yep 👍
Awesome machine, looking forward to seeing some chips..
Thanks , same here ! 👍
The shop is coming together real nice Max!
Getting there Mate 👍
That is some machine you got there!! Damn!!
It's a beast alright ! 👍
Damn! I’ve never seen that level of detail on a machine anywhere and I’ve seen a lot of machines in the 55 years I’ve been working on then. The Soviets seem to have gotten something right. It’s a really nice machine.
It's a nice machine . Full mechanical feeds instead of electrics & clutches would be my option but the large machines of that type are usually half knackered . Especially around my limited price range ! 👍
Max, you have no idea how good the timing is on this video. I recently got a new to me mill with a very similar layout and the ram is also very hard to move. I will be looking for stray swarf as the first thing that may be wrong with it. It's a lovely old Italian mill of 1966 vintage, ex university, without much use, but came with all the accessories, full dividing head, rotary table, slotting attachment, etc. I have never come across the make before, Ingers if anyone knows of them. I'd already decided she would be called Sophia.
Thanks . Sounds like you might have a good machine there . 👍
Olga is a big girl. Looks like she could keep you warm on those cold Australian nights. 😄
Lets hope so ! We had a warmer one yesterday 34 C / 93 F . Summer is on it's way . 👍
That is warm. It was 55f/12c here today with temps dropping tonight. @@swanvalleymachineshop
@@hilltopmachineworks2131 I like 12 c !
Used a stanko slab mill just like that had universal mill head on it, they are great machines tough as and built well Russian stuff gets a bad wrap but I think they are great.
Thanks . Yes , solid machines . 👍
The Stanko is very impressive Max.
Certainly very heavy duty.
Certainly has alot of very nice features.
I know that you will have it up and running in Top shape in no time.
It is nice that you were able to get the manuals for the machine.
Good video Max.
Thanks for sharing.
Have a great day.
Take care, Ed.
Thanks Ed . 👍
Enjoyed…
Thanks Chuck 👍
a beast of a machine.. looks awesome.. can't wait to see some chips flying..
Cheers 👍
Thanks for the show max 🍻🇦🇺
No worries 👍
Awesome! Very similar machine to my SHW UF-2. Great work!
Thanks . A UF-2 looks an amazing machine , looks like everything tilts & moves . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop Yes it does! Superbly versatile. Still working on mine.. power feed works on the spindle housing but not on the table, think it’s the clutch that needs adjusted.. hours of fun!
Looking forward to getting to know Olga in a lot more detail :)
Olga is old
@@tomsing6384 Olga maybe old, but she's a lot younger than me, and in far better shape ;)
Lol , same here ! 👍
She's still a spring chicken ! 👍
you are bissy man and well worth wathing .i watching wtching what you do keep it up
Thanks 👍
Great video max, keep'um coming..
Thanks 👍
I'm going to enjoy this series on Olga. The guy I bought my HBM from has this same mill and from the outside at least it appears to be in great shape. I was wondering if the delay in turning off the feed motor has something to do with the automatic feed cycle system. When in automatic mode it is going to stop the feed say on the x axis, engage the y-axis feed, shift the table over, disengaged the y-axis, re-engage the x-axis in the opposite direction for the return cut etc. Having the feed motor turn off every time it tries to change axis/direction would probably cause problems. The z-axis turns off instantly, but this may be because it is not controlled by the automatic cycle system. Anyway it looks like you got a winner and I'm looking forward to see it make some swarf. Ken
Thanks for that Ken . It gives me another avenue to investigate , especially to make sure all auto functions are in the off position . I will have to go through the manual to find the master switch for those functions . Cheers 👍👍👍
G'day Max, Old Olga is certainly a sturdy bird eh mate, love it 👍great stuff
Solid as the Rock of Gibraltar there Ralfy ! 👍
If the company that purchased the machine new is like the company I worked for, they filed the manuals away somewhere and completely forgot about them. When we had to work on them we would ask if they had any manuals and they always said they didn't. One day they decided they wanted to move a cabinet so we started pulling things out to lighten the weight and found all of the manuals for forklifts and equipment were in that cabinet.
I think sometimes , they could not be bothered to look . 👍
another interesting video max, thanks for sharing !
cheers ben.
No worries 👍
Such a cool machine. I would like to find a nice small vertical and horizontal "tool room" style mill at some point. Nothing as big as that one, but the features are really nice. EDIT: That documentation is SOLID GOLD! What a machine, what a find, congrats! EDIT EDIT: you take excellent care of your machines, I should be taking notes... 🤣
Cheers 👍
Great introduction to Olga Max! I had a few grins with the stuff you almost said 😂😂. That automation is like a very primitive peg board auto, looking forward to seeing you play with that. Built like a brick cow shed and in very nice condition where it matters, good buy mate. Cheers, Jon
Yeah, some restraint was shown there! 😂
Cheers Jon . Built like a brick sh-t house , solid as the Rock of Gibraltar ! 👍
Lol 👍
Awesome video yet again young max.
From kiwi land.
Thanks 👍
It is interesting to think how a milling machine of such origin came into your hands? to Australia? Since I am a neighbor of Russia, this amazes me, because I have only seen a few benches for sale in my country for many years. But before long, I became the owner of a similar milling machine a few months ago, which is its predecessor 6Р82Ш. At the moment I am busy with cleaning and disassembly to identify errors that need immediate elimination. What's particularly interesting about this is that if you ever get to a vertical spindle angle reducer, I assume you'll have to replace the old grease with something as well. But it is not easy to find a replacement grease that is suitable for both spindle bearings and gears.
Thanks . There are a few of the same machines here . I will be looking for the same grease soon , or something that will do the job . Probably Castrol Spheerol SY2202 . I will check in the machine manual . Cheers 👍
Nice machine. I wonder if cleaning down with compressed air was responsible to for the chips being so deep into the ram?
Quite possible . I might see about a rubber strip to seal it off . 👍
Nice machine Max. I just wanted to comment on the wire bundle "string". It's very common in aviation to tie wire bundles together like that. It's much cheaper and more importantly much much lighter than using regular (Adel) clamps or even Zip ties. If you ever need to replace any of it just look for "wax lacing cord."
Thanks . I have only ever seen similar on Salami's ! Imagine a sparky trying to replicate that these days , he would have to employ the local butcher ! 👍
Great video I think Factory Dragon has one of those machines
He has a similar one , so does Sunppaa . 👍
Lacing wire bundle like that is common in aviation; even as an amateur at it, it can go pretty quickly with practice.
First time i have come across it in a machine from memory . Seen it on rolled roast's & sausages before ! 👍
G'day Max. Olga looks a very beefy machine & once going, should be a big asset in Your Machinary House.
That thick gasket material you showed, wondering if Its Permatex or the old Forma Gasket material.
When you pulled the top covers off & showed us the gear train, I thought that the top gear just to left of centre had a small chip in it, or might have been a piece of gasket
Looks like a very informative rebuild coming up.
Great content, looking forward to the rest of the rebuild.
Just a piece of camel shite there Ted ! 👍
Hi Max Olga looks like a great machine. Early days of manual cnc programed on the machine, I can see alot if dry runs happing before you try to do machining with auto mode. Cheers
Lol , It will be an interesting experience ! 👍
Great Video Max and very interesting explanations about the machine. Now, I do own a Stanko who is in a perfect state and that has never been used . But it comes only the instruction manual in Russian and I am wondering if I have any hopes to put my hand on an english version somewhere
You would probably have more chance of winning a lottery . Keep searching the internet . 👍
I Would love to come visit one Day Max you have some great lookin machines there mate, Cheers Karl
No worries 👍
whens a good time for you Max@@swanvalleymachineshop
@@Darkrif1957 Usually any Fri , Sat or Sunday . Just email first . theswanvalleymachineshop@gmail.com
The delay on the spindle stopping when using the front controller, I think, might indicate that the brake function switching is not operating when initiated by the front switch either the switch or the wiring to the switch. ? the side switch and the front switch I would think would be a parallel switching function. If it is a single switch operation from the side controller, it is either operating multiple relays, or more likely switching a common ground. Would like to see a circuit diagram of the controller, this from a retired tech who can’t let go.
The delay is with the feed motor staying on a few seconds after stopping the feed , only on the x & y axis . The feed stops instant but the motor stays on for a few seconds . Problem not present with the Z axis feeds . It happens on both control panels . Cheers 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop an option not paid for, maybe.😁
happening on both control panels puts a different light on the problem, the motor braking I would think would be mechanical (clutch type) with a machine of that vintage, certainly, a problem to track down and enjoy the process doing so , the control circuit diagrams will be crucial in the diagnostic of the fault.
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Olga was not made in Moscow. Such machines were produced in Nizhny Novgorod at the Gorky Milling Machine Plant. And stankoimort is a company that exported machines from the USSR
Thanks . I remember something about Stankoimport being machine dealers but never knew how it worked . So would Ryazan 1M63 & Stanko 1M63 be the same machines , just sold under a different name ? 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop Yes. But machines for export undegro stricter quality control.
I didn't know you had a Stanko. There's a branch (?) of the company in western Canada which appears to still be in business.
Ok thanks . There was quite a lot of Stanko & Ryazan machines sold here in Australia , not sure if there are any agents left . 👍
Well done mate good video
Cheers 👍
Merhaba güzel bir makin bendede var sadece elektiik panosu zayıf birde saki zet milinin tabandaki hazneye yağ koymayı unutmayın güzel bir makina
Thanks . I keep a close eye on the lube pump oil . 👍
So many machines, so little time.
Yes , so little time ! Cheers Rob . 👍
Nice size of. Machine
That it is . Cheers 👍
good video max
Thanks 👍
Hi Max.
Are you able to do anything to prevent the swarf getting in there again ?
Might be able to put a rubber strip there . 👍
If only everything else in this world was built this well….built to last. Seems like everything today from cars, trucks, household appliances, etc…are built to last but only a few years. Then you have buy replacement parts or replace the whole machine because the repair cost exceeds the replacement cost.
The throw away society . 👍
Hi Max strong workhorse, built to last.
Looking at the pneumatic timers there might be a problem.
Ive got a Vernier height gauge made in USSR, well made.
If they are the things with the knobs on , i might look at the spare control box & see if they are set the same . 👍
Yep with knobs, they are adjustable timers, on delay or off delay.
The rubber diaphragms fail, probably get similar timers from Radio Spares.
Coincidentally I'm waiting for Thor copper rawhide mallet No 2 from RS Spore similar to the one your using.
@@willemvantsant5105 Thanks .
Majstore moj veliki pozdrav za vaše predavanje koje je slikovito i jasno da li možete prikazati glodalicu Stankoimport 6P83W proizvodnje USSR, i tako opširno prikazati nam rukovanje sa njom. Puno vas pozdravljam i veliki pozdrav iz republike Hrvatske. Petar.
Thanks . Sorry Google would not translate into English for some reason . 👍
Es interesante me gustaría verla trabajando tiene tantas cosas tengo curiosidad amigo
Thanks . I want to see it running as well . 👍
Olga is sweet looking
A true Russian Bride ! 👍
Always something to do. Know that feeling. Thanks for your time and expertise, enjoyed!
No worries 👍
That thing is a brut. Appears to be in nice condition.
It does not seem too bad , time will tell ! 👍
You must keep in mind Mate labor in the USSR was very cheep!
Slightly different system over there . 👍
Bu makinayla ilgili birbirimizle bilgi baylasabiliriz saygılar iyi çalışmalar
No worries 👍
Nice to see under Olga’s skirt…..!
But have you seen her mother….?
Lol . Always look at the mum to get an inkling of what they may look like after a few years ! 👍
The USSR was desperate for hard Western currency. These machine tools (Stanko and others) cost about half that of western machine tools.
No worries . The prices were through the roof for new English machines back then . 👍
I used a Stanko vertical knee mill in 1978 in my first year as an apprentice, big step up, literally ( it had a step to reach the drawbar), from the mill I used at school.
The company had several Stanko machines of different types, they had sold Brake shoe resistance welders (Welded the web to the platform), several years earlier, and since soviet Russia couldn't trade on the open market, so "Factoring" was needed, ref paid in part with milling machines.
I think the term "A dog with 2 dicks" is apt here Max, ref too many machines to enjoy.
Some of the early Soviet and east German machines had poor quality plastics, ref difficult to source modern materials, but definitely great engineering 👍 .
Good useful machine 👍.
Thanks for sharing
Lol , i like that term !!! 👍
It's spelled Oljga
Thanks . I have seen a couple of different versions . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop The problem is, we have a lot of admirers of, pardon, the majestic Anglofrance. Since this, even "official" rules of switching alphabet is a set of guidelines how to take a Slav language, and turn it into Russofranç or Rungliysky.
V lûbom slučaê, vsêh blag Čelovêku truda, boljšoj-boljšoj privêt
@@worldoftancraft No worries . We have so many variations just in the English language ! 👍
Never come across a Russian machine that wasn't built like a brick shithouse - built to last forever with no BULLSHIT
They seem that way . 👍
I’m really surprised at the quality that was engineered into this machine. Always thought that thoughtful long lasting was a forgotten experience in the USSR. Obviously you did your homework before acquiring this workhorse.
I did the initial inspection when the machine was powered up . I was told the Russian export machines had to conform to a higher quality than their non export machines . 👍
@@swanvalleymachineshop There is not such thing as "the Russian export machines" quality. As there is not "USA export machines" quality. Or Chinese, by the way.
Some companies or factories are making a good quality product, some not. Some USA-made product is a crap, some Chinese product is of the excellent quality. Of course all except quality of the USA and Russian cars - they are all crap, USA car crap is just bigger in size.
It was quicker to use waxed string to form a loom than cable ties but it was a practised art. Now the skill is lost!
They use a similar thing on salami ! But a lost are for sure . 👍
Na not an issue i just pulled a manatu engine gearbox out with a 1/4 ton chain hoist dont believe the HEALTH a SAFETY wankres
Lol , i have not worked on a Manatu gearbox in about 35 years ! Cheers 👍
Made in USSR.
Yes , a solid machine 👍
USSR mi motherland 💪
@@Ivan31212 "USSR [is] [my] motherland" - the correct version.
USSR was a federation of15 socialist independent republics, so technically you are wrong since only one of them was your motherland. Also, the USSR doesn't exist anymore.
Had russian machine tools in the past. Not the top of quality....
But solid & affordable . The quality on this one seems pretty good . 👍
olgas a clean girl ,noice up Maxi mollydooker.
Cheers 👍