Maybe they should win the pointless games cause they can’t win shiit 😂😂 the nerves to not want to turn up for your national team says so much why England havnt won nothing in years and years and years 😂 , thoses clowns needs to play as much games as they can with each other, get used to playing with each other then maybe they can win 😂
@KINGKING10109 most leagues don't have a 2nd cup. The premier league has been won by city in 6 of the last 7 seasons. It's all 1 or 2 team farmers leagues now.
Shut up, you weapon. What’s that got to do with it? He’s played in the Premier League for years and he never pulls out of England spots. Use that half a brain you have.
Lol It's a Trophy fam England haven't won a Trophy for 58 years They've never Won a Continental cup ever (Euros or UEFA Nations league) They need a trophy
I don't care if it's a trophy or not To play for your country should be the utmost priority How do these players react when they get asked about the international caps All fake
@@solomonolowu4633 Nobody would care if they won the Nations League. Only trophies that really matter are the Euros and World Cup. Nations League is like the Carabao Cup, it's meh
the premier league has outgrown international matches unless it's the euros or the world cup and has so for years now! and i can't blame the players because the schedule is so hectic and who'd want a pointless injury at such an important time in the domestic and european competetions for their clubs.
"they've taken the opportunity to get themselves fit for their clubs" - I don't disagree with them dropping out, or anything said in the rest of this discussion...but isn't that exactly why Kane said what he said. He believes England comes before everything so naturally he's disappointed in that. Confused why they think it's odd from Kane to say that...
Because usually as a captain you expect him to stand up for the players and the managers and dismiss some of the heat on them. Saying something like that, especially to English media just creates unnecessary drama around the camp and then people start making up stories
@@absbabs6153I agree, it’s not because what he said was wrong, it’s just that as a captain and fellow player you would expect him to have more nuance on the situation
I say this a spurs supporter. Kane playing hurt has cost England and Spurs. If he really put club and country first he wouldn’t have played hurt in euros or 19 CL final. I’m get he got them there and I’m sure he thinks even playing hurt that he is helping, but he isn’t.
Yeah imagine if Vardy got to actually start at least one game for England in the knockouts....the guy scored almost every game he came on as a sub and that too against some big teams
2 arsenal: rice and saka 2 chelsea: colwill and palmer 2 man city : grealish and foden 1 liverpool: TAA All top 4 and two title contenders its not an coincidence they escape on puropose to avoid useless injuries 😉
@@Rafael-e6n9g No Rice and Saka both came off when Arsenal were drawing 1-1 before eighty minutes (Rice with a broken toe , he missed the previous game and Saka who we are constantlly told is not all that got injured on the last international call up and has had a reoccurence of that injury ) in a game which was called a MUST win by everyone including Arsenal fans. Ben White s had to have an operation on his knee and best prognosis asys he will be back at the earliest mid to late January.Odegard went to Norway and was sent back as he is not fit either.So there are NO fake injuries at Arsenal.
the schedule is far too congested for all premier league teams. pointless international matches and pre season tournaments need to be stopped. they should go back to 90's level of schedule. way less injured players
@arranmelaugh5606 He is talking as if the player's never turns up for England! They all worked hard and reached the finals yet he wants to comment badly on his own teammates??
If Kane says England comes first, by that logic he should of sat out the euros. He needs to follow by thier example not vise versa. Don't be a burden for the sake of pride and glory
Assume the players are injured until you learn definitively otherwise. This includes players that start the first game back after the international break. The journalists are the ones creating a problem here.
I think harry's kane's point was more on the wider attitude of players pulling out and disrespecting the honour of playing for their country as opposed to these glorified friendly games. These games are pointless for me. But his point i felt was highlighting and calling out players who when england need them don't value playing for england. Maybe im a traditionalist but when i think the meaning of playing for england i think stuart pearce or david beckham against greece where you'll do anything for your country. In the two finals we got to, too many players went missing when their country needed them. But you didnt see the italians or the spanish not giving their heart and soul for their countries. Thats how i saw kanes comments
The Spanish don’t think it’s a pointless competition so why should we it’s all about attitude and wanting to win everything.The olympics is a prime example ,Argentina want to win we don’t even compete in it .😏
The players are injured,are we saying there not and they dont want to play.? This is nonsense, from Harry Kane.if a player is injured he has to show proof of that injury to the england medical team.Whats the point of getting even more injured by playing instead of getting proper treatment at your club. This match gives opportunities to other players to prove they can play at this level and create more competition for places.
I love the nations League is it as important is the euros or World Cup no but I draw the Watch competitive international matches with something at stake even if it is minor then pointless international friendlies which don't prove anything at least with the nations League you have an idea of how good your team is
The arrogance of the FA, Kane is a given even when hes been piss poor, he is teflon nothing sticks media do not speaks out against him & lets face it playing for England is no longer the holy grail...59 years...(Tumbleweed rolling).
Im not ex military but I do cringe when pundits saying "in the trenches" or "going into battle" when talking about walking onto a football pitch to play the game
@MrAnxter oh really? I thought they actually went and dug 6ft holes on the edge of the 18 yard box and fired rifles.. thanks for letting me know it's a metaphor
@@Edgisco Thanks for being passive aggressive man, really made my day. My point wasn't that it's a metaphor and you didn't notice it (ofc anyone would), but it's not that deep. You can be further mean if you want to, if it helps
That sounds silly but ok.....it's a Nation's League match....why should the players have to play in a made up competition just for UEFA to make more money? They already changed the UCL to have more fixtures, added a conference league, and still have the Euros....it's just flat out an unnecessary competition and the truth is no one cares if you even win it
Absolutely not, it’ll whittle out the weak links, we need mentally tough people, the people which can’t handle what he says is not what we need in the team
@@Keverz16 lol "the weak links" ....yeah easy to say when you're sitting there. Why should they risk getting injured for a competition no one will even recognize them for winning? You think winning nations league is gonna get you close to the world cup? Or closer to being in the World 11? He can make those comments if he wants that's his right. But it's also those players' rights to not choose to play in a competition that means absolutely nothing other than more money for UEFA because they are greedy
baffles me that fans arent arsed about players turning up and it makes me think most people saying it must be either teenagers or early 20's and dont remenber the years where pleyers took liberties would drop out of squads monday and be fit saturday and then wonder why the team isn't successful.. happened alot under hodgeson and we saw what happened there. gareth changed that and you know they wont do it under tuchel but its a liberty plain and simple - and by wrighty saying im suprised he said it EHHH? you dont see any other top players sitting out with niggles ronaldo and messi you cant stop them playing for there countries and all the other top nations but the brits are happy with it and then cry there eyes out when we get to tournament and stink the place out.
Always happens - club always seems to take precedent these days. Too many games 😂😂 6 or 7 figures a week sslary for 90 / 180 minutes work a week us too much to handle 😂😂😂
It's not about working hours or salary buddy. They're athletes, everything that they do; their value lies in their performance and their fitness. If you're playing too many games you performance WILL go down and your risk for injuries WILL go up....ask any physician about this.....
Its ok Ian Wright too many games, only paid £500,000 per week to kick a ball around. Come out and do a 15 hour day, every day a HGV driver does, earning peanuts then they can moan
I couldn't care less. I'm glad my players have taken the time to rest instead of going to play pointless games.
Not pointless considering results affect seeding for qualifying for major tournaments
@@shponger-q7oit's unnecessary. End of.
Spoilt big club mentality 😂
Maybe they should win the pointless games cause they can’t win shiit 😂😂 the nerves to not want to turn up for your national team says so much why England havnt won nothing in years and years and years 😂 , thoses clowns needs to play as much games as they can with each other, get used to playing with each other then maybe they can win 😂
@@HNIC-d3ssome people don’t care about international football
harry kane's got a winter's break in a month so it''s a little rich
Add to the fact that his Farmer’s League also plays 4 less game than the others, and they also 1 less cup competition.
@KINGKING10109 most leagues don't have a 2nd cup. The premier league has been won by city in 6 of the last 7 seasons. It's all 1 or 2 team farmers leagues now.
Shut up, you weapon. What’s that got to do with it? He’s played in the Premier League for years and he never pulls out of England spots. Use that half a brain you have.
@@KINGKING10109 farmers league yet they knocked arsenal out of European cup last year. Interesting.
@@KINGKING10109 Criticise some one who always turns up and what's to play for his country oh I for got he played for Tottenham Hotspur.
Ian and Roy are bang on with everything here.
Risk injury for a pointless competition I can't blame them.
Lol
It's a Trophy fam
England haven't won a Trophy for 58 years
They've never Won a Continental cup ever (Euros or UEFA Nations league)
They need a trophy
I don't care if it's a trophy or not
To play for your country should be the utmost priority
How do these players react when they get asked about the international caps
All fake
Real talk, as an Arsenal fan I'm glad Rice and Saka have withdrawn
@@solomonolowu4633 Nobody would care if they won the Nations League. Only trophies that really matter are the Euros and World Cup. Nations League is like the Carabao Cup, it's meh
@@GoGetYourShineboxsadly they won anything in my lifetime being brutally honest
No need for this competition. We’ve already got world cup and euros. This just disrupts the prem which we all love
Murphy...the UEFA Nations League replaced random friendlies. So these games would have still happened anyway. Please do some research.
@ doesn’t make it any better
the premier league has outgrown international matches unless it's the euros or the world cup and has so for years now! and i can't blame the players because the schedule is so hectic and who'd want a pointless injury at such an important time in the domestic and european competetions for their clubs.
"they've taken the opportunity to get themselves fit for their clubs" - I don't disagree with them dropping out, or anything said in the rest of this discussion...but isn't that exactly why Kane said what he said. He believes England comes before everything so naturally he's disappointed in that. Confused why they think it's odd from Kane to say that...
Because usually as a captain you expect him to stand up for the players and the managers and dismiss some of the heat on them. Saying something like that, especially to English media just creates unnecessary drama around the camp and then people start making up stories
@@absbabs6153I agree, it’s not because what he said was wrong, it’s just that as a captain and fellow player you would expect him to have more nuance on the situation
Spanish, Brazilian, Argentinean, and other winning nation players go easy during domestic games to be fit for national duty.
Harry Kane has a winter break, unlike the others.
I wish more players have pulled out. This international break is the biggest waste of time
I say this a spurs supporter. Kane playing hurt has cost England and Spurs. If he really put club and country first he wouldn’t have played hurt in euros or 19 CL final. I’m get he got them there and I’m sure he thinks even playing hurt that he is helping, but he isn’t.
Yeah imagine if Vardy got to actually start at least one game for England in the knockouts....the guy scored almost every game he came on as a sub and that too against some big teams
Yes
Harry Kane can’t say anything he didn’t turn up in the euros 😂😂😂
Braindead comment
England didn’t turn up for 68 years
@ another braindead comment
Spicy 🌶️
@@muns8928bitter scot/welsh/irish alert 😂
2 arsenal: rice and saka
2 chelsea: colwill and palmer
2 man city : grealish and foden
1 liverpool: TAA
All top 4 and two title contenders its not an coincidence they escape on puropose to avoid useless injuries 😉
TAA came off in the 1st half against villa. He’s injured. The others played all game.
Grealish was injured for a long time I believe
@@Rafael-e6n9gSaka came off injured you genius.
@@Rafael-e6n9g No Rice and Saka both came off when Arsenal were drawing 1-1 before eighty minutes (Rice with a broken toe , he missed the previous game and Saka who we are constantlly told is not all that got injured on the last international call up and has had a reoccurence of that injury ) in a game which was called a MUST win by everyone including Arsenal fans. Ben White s had to have an operation on his knee and best prognosis asys he will be back at the earliest mid to late January.Odegard went to Norway and was sent back as he is not fit either.So there are NO fake injuries at Arsenal.
@@MrAllenm94well said…
I’m a fellow gooner and you are 💯% correct! 👍
That was a bizarre decision by the FA to not bring in the manager they hired till January
Branthwaite has a groin injury , he’s very important for us that he stays fit ,
why would you go to a pointless comp. when there is gonna be a new manager soon.
Spanish, Brazilian, Argentinean, and other winning national players go easy during domestic games to be fit for national duty.
English players used to be like that but not anymore. They can blame the importance of high EPL expectations but personally I think it's the money
These footballers need to stop comparing matches with “being in the trenches” they are pampered millionaires have some respect
the schedule is far too congested for all premier league teams. pointless international matches and pre season tournaments need to be stopped. they should go back to 90's level of schedule. way less injured players
These players are better than the team at the lost at Wembley...
Branthwaite's only played 2 games all season. He's being eased back from injury - they shouldn't call him up.
Harry Kane should be the last person to say that 😂 He does not have any experience winning a club trophy
If Kane as captain can’t say that, who the hell can?
@arranmelaugh5606 He is talking as if the player's never turns up for England! They all worked hard and reached the finals yet he wants to comment badly on his own teammates??
86 mins gone and those who take pride in turning up and playing for England are winning the game.
Ian can’t be serious, he’s surprised the captain of the English men’s team wants his teammates to come in for international duty
Then Tuchel doesn’t pick those players going forward. You want to stay “fit” then opt out of a call up.
Get rid of international breaks in the middle of a packed season
If the players are injured, they’re injured. Its a bit rich that coming from Kane especially when he has a winter break coming up soon.
If Kane says England comes first, by that logic he should of sat out the euros. He needs to follow by thier example not vise versa. Don't be a burden for the sake of pride and glory
A player picking the team that is the manager job that how it works it's not hard to understand.
Aww the schedule. Sounds tough.
In NBA this is called "load management"
Assume the players are injured until you learn definitively otherwise. This includes players that start the first game back after the international break. The journalists are the ones creating a problem here.
I think harry's kane's point was more on the wider attitude of players pulling out and disrespecting the honour of playing for their country as opposed to these glorified friendly games. These games are pointless for me. But his point i felt was highlighting and calling out players who when england need them don't value playing for england. Maybe im a traditionalist but when i think the meaning of playing for england i think stuart pearce or david beckham against greece where you'll do anything for your country. In the two finals we got to, too many players went missing when their country needed them. But you didnt see the italians or the spanish not giving their heart and soul for their countries. Thats how i saw kanes comments
There are too many international games now in an already packed season. It's ruining the game.
The players are tired of the international breaks. Enough already, set up a time for the international matches that doesn’t interfere
if they don’t bother during nations league leave them on the bench for world cup/Euros
Ian Wright spot on . Harry Kane is a hypocrite and If I was one of those injured I would give him hell .
I only saw trent pull up for liverpool... But the accusation is they are feigning injury?
They are injured. What is there to say?
Why do you need friendlies in June? The season is over ffs 🤦🏻♂️
lol, Grealish pulling out as if he's first choice for City. Surely it was a legitimate injury
Too many international breaks disrupting the domestic season. Total waste of time.
I'm glad they did this - H was wrong, international will never be as big as club football!
The players have given up on winning the world cup or European championship, simply because they are not good enough at international levels.
This type of journalism is the reason England get the stick we get, get over it, just talk about the team infront of us 😴😴
The Spanish don’t think it’s a pointless competition so why should we it’s all about attitude and wanting to win everything.The olympics is a prime example ,Argentina want to win we don’t even compete in it .😏
The players are injured,are we saying there not and they dont want to play.?
This is nonsense, from Harry Kane.if a player is injured he has to show proof of that injury to the england medical team.Whats the point of getting even more injured by playing instead of getting proper treatment at your club.
This match gives opportunities to other players to prove they can play at this level and create more competition for places.
Together! What did they win?
They don't get paid enough from the FA. The only thing these footballers understand is money money money, its a rich man's world.
Who cares about England?
From the breakfast to the tea, sausages will be free!!!
So Jeremy Kyle is presenting the footy now
All that to start bench what a melt 😂
I love the nations League is it as important is the euros or World Cup no but I draw the Watch competitive international matches with something at stake even if it is minor then pointless international friendlies which don't prove anything at least with the nations League you have an idea of how good your team is
Pointless friendlys that mean nothing.
Kane would stink and no one would hear about it. It’s easy for him to talk now!
The arrogance of the FA, Kane is a given even when hes been piss poor, he is teflon nothing sticks media do not speaks out against him & lets face it playing for England is no longer the holy grail...59 years...(Tumbleweed rolling).
The F.A couldn't set a bath
Its all bread and circus. Millionaires kicking a ball around a pitch watched by people that are broke. ❤
No need for this competition and plus the clubs pay the wages
Roy dropout of Irish squads because he said he was "injured"
😂
Where was kane during the euros?
Winning the golden boot to go with the World Cup golden boot that no other player has done.
@keithryan3528 oh that's where he was!
@@keithryan3528what a trophy for England
“In respects”. Ian FFS bruh!!!
Love England me
Im not ex military but I do cringe when pundits saying "in the trenches" or "going into battle" when talking about walking onto a football pitch to play the game
It's just a metaphor, nothing that deep
@MrAnxter oh really? I thought they actually went and dug 6ft holes on the edge of the 18 yard box and fired rifles.. thanks for letting me know it's a metaphor
@@Edgisco Thanks for being passive aggressive man, really made my day. My point wasn't that it's a metaphor and you didn't notice it (ofc anyone would), but it's not that deep. You can be further mean if you want to, if it helps
@@Edgiscoif you know it’s a metaphor why can’t you comprehend they’re not actually comparing it to “being in the trenches”😂?
@@merccar5965 can't believe I'm under attack and having to go into battle in the comment section
There all drop outs the lot
Kane chatting nonsense 🙄
It's suppose to be noted with bold capital.
TIME TO DROP KANE
these are pointless games, I don't blame them. Get a weekend off
All who dropped out just because they don't want to get injured shouldn't be playing for the nation again
Don’t be stupid. It’s a pointless competition
That sounds silly but ok.....it's a Nation's League match....why should the players have to play in a made up competition just for UEFA to make more money? They already changed the UCL to have more fixtures, added a conference league, and still have the Euros....it's just flat out an unnecessary competition and the truth is no one cares if you even win it
Kane's comments could just derail all the unity that was created in the England camp with his comments.
Absolutely not, it’ll whittle out the weak links, we need mentally tough people, the people which can’t handle what he says is not what we need in the team
He has every right to comment as england Captain and I don't blame him but in the end they won 3-0
@@Keverz16 lol "the weak links" ....yeah easy to say when you're sitting there. Why should they risk getting injured for a competition no one will even recognize them for winning? You think winning nations league is gonna get you close to the world cup? Or closer to being in the World 11? He can make those comments if he wants that's his right. But it's also those players' rights to not choose to play in a competition that means absolutely nothing other than more money for UEFA because they are greedy
baffles me that fans arent arsed about players turning up and it makes me think most people saying it must be either teenagers or early 20's and dont remenber the years where pleyers took liberties would drop out of squads monday and be fit saturday and then wonder why the team isn't successful.. happened alot under hodgeson and we saw what happened there. gareth changed that and you know they wont do it under tuchel but its a liberty plain and simple - and by wrighty saying im suprised he said it EHHH? you dont see any other top players sitting out with niggles ronaldo and messi you cant stop them playing for there countries and all the other top nations but the brits are happy with it and then cry there eyes out when we get to tournament and stink the place out.
Ian Wrong
You can play in all competition if you are playing in BundesLiga. Can’t say the same in PL.
He did.
Always happens - club always seems to take precedent these days. Too many games 😂😂 6 or 7 figures a week sslary for 90 / 180 minutes work a week us too much to handle 😂😂😂
It's not about working hours or salary buddy. They're athletes, everything that they do; their value lies in their performance and their fitness. If you're playing too many games you performance WILL go down and your risk for injuries WILL go up....ask any physician about this.....
Get your boots on and get out there, bunch of spoiled millionaires
It's 30 days of night, they are flesh eating vampires.
Listen all England do is let the country down we don’t care about these poxy friendly games
Engerland fallen apart such a wonderful decline 😅
How is that we just went top of the group 😂
Easy group to go top and yous made it hard on yourselfs should be smashing teams like that with your under 18s 😅
If you pay extra £50 a month you can get the world cup every 2 years instead of 4
Of course club football isn't important to Harry "fail in my DNA even at Bayern" Kane
Levi Colwill and Cole Palmer are 3rd in the Premier League why on earth would they represent England in this window.
Levi Colwill should be nowhere near the England lineup
@x_MVP he is 22 he will be 24 by the next world cup
But there injured
Its ok Ian Wright too many games, only paid £500,000 per week to kick a ball around. Come out and do a 15 hour day, every day a HGV driver does, earning peanuts then they can moan
Nobody in the England squad, letalone prem gets paid 500k p/w. So stop whinging about your pay, if you don't like it, get a new job you sap