Noo, the defiance was never about Donovan`s choice to sign the extension. He was irritated of the false narratives the he was clearly going to LA, MIA, or NY. ESPN was speculating that there was "NO WAY IN HELL He stays in Cleveland." Donovan had to come out and tell you guys, "I like it here. (Cleveland)" That's where the defiance came from. Not him signing the contract.
I guarantee you there was more “Donavon leaving Cavs” media coverage last year then everything else Cavs combined but windy saying “it wasn’t that bad” 😂 that’s all they talked about even in the midst of our playoff run
Once again, I thought Cleveland was going to beat the Celtics after they stole Game 2 in Boston. That’s until I finished the Spring 2024 semester at NIU, and my older brother picked me up to get me home for summer vacation, and then he broke my nearly $300 flat-screen TV, and the Celtics haven’t lost another playoff game until Game 4 of the NBA Finals as a result.
Boston wasn't even trying. They toyed with them the same way they did the pacers. You seen them turn up in the finals. The cavs don't have half the talent Boston does
@@JoeNotit you're adorable, son. No one is fooled by the BS. You need to pipe down right now. The Cavs are supremely talented. Theyre just not fully developed yet the way Boston is. The second Mobley pops, you'll be making trades just to deal with him, and hes about to pop this year. The Cavs are top team in the NBA, and it doesn't matter if you don't agree.
@@dearmas9068 🤣🤣🤣 you Homer's are ridiculous. Literally no one that thinks the cavs are the best team except the 3% of cavs fans that use emotion over logic.
@@dearmas9068yes and no. If Kenny can get rotations optimized and Garland back in form . I do think we need a wing to replace max in the starters. We'll see.
@@dennisclanton5342 yes he is. So is Garland. Both have struggled next to a star who plays the same position they do, and thays not abnormal. If a straight swap happened today, they would both look better than they have for the last 2 years.
everyone forgets half the team was injured during the season and we were starting end of the bench players in the playoffs . this team over- performed given those odds imo .
Windy is smart and knows a lot. I just don’t like how arrogant he became after hitching himself to the Lebron wagon years ago. Again, seems like a smart dude. He just seems very dismissive of people he believes are beneath him nba-wise.
Allen is such a great contract that it really makes no sense to trade him. You’ll downgrade if matching contracts and you’ll take on too much contract in a 2 for 1.
@@williamphillips-ki1vt 2nd best player? That’s a hot take. All I know is he isn’t physical enough to play the 5 and when he sustained the injury (that he could’ve played through) he refused
@@duganred wether he played or not we lose that series. Then he risks further injuring it. Then if that does happen it drastically could change the following season. Mitchell ended up getting hurt so it wouldn’t have mattered if he played or not anyway
i love the sigining but lets be honest if the others dont step up its gone be the same old thing DMitchell with know help everyone must step up we will see.
Ingram still averaged 20/5/5 in the regular season, had a poor showing in the playoffs coming off injury. Dropped 30 against the same OKC team in the play-in one year prior, and averaged 27 against the Suns two years ago I think Garland for BI made plenty sense for the Cavs, but with Dejounte there now the target would be Allen. Who knows what Mobley can grow into, but if the offense doesn’t work I think Allen has to be out
I completely agree when Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio left it definitely left a void within the Cavs locker room you need veterans on the court turn off the court. Especially when you got to dig deep.
Who suggests these questions for Chris, they're terrible! Get somebody that knows the NBA. The only people who are desperate for Ingram are people who just want to make a move for him because he's a name. I want nothing to do with him. He's not a max player and you already have contacts that are questionable other than Spida. I can tell Windy gets irritated at some of these questions...smh
Ingram suffers from the same problem Garland is having. He plays with another star who plays the same position. Ingram with Mobley and Mitchell would be significantly better than he is with Zion.
Moving Allen and Garland isn't for the regular season, it's for the playoffs. Anyone who thinks the core 4 can succeed in the playoffs knows nothing about playoff basketball.
I disagree with the statement that the cavaliers are nowhere near the celtics. They beat them during the regular season and were badly under manned during the playoffs.A healthy Dean Wade and a healthy Donovan Mitchell would have made a difference in the playoffs series. Wade is an absolute celtics killer at both ends of the floor.
The Cavs need to sign another point guard that’s a facilitator and defender with highly. Maybe Lonzo Ball and prioritize Mobley Development. He has to eventually become the best player on both sides of the floor. That’s the key to success for Cleveland
Obviously a great signing with DM, BUT KOBY has TONS more work to do. With Niang, Strus, Okoro, Levert, Wade and even Garland, the Cavs are TOO small, inconsistent, not athletic enough, and need serious upgrades. I think Windy sees all that and knows this team is far from being elite, which prob explains his lack of enthusiasm and optimism.
Straight up Brandon Ingram for Jared Allen would be a big no. Ingram is just not that good. If you are looking for a long wing who can score, you can find someone better for the money too.
I agree.. No way I deal JA for Ingram but garland simply hasn't evolved.. Think I'd pull the trigger on that trade.. Wish dg the best he just didn't fit with spida @@dearmas9068
Mobley is about to pop off and be a star. The Cavs are one of the hands down best teams in the NBA next year - right there with the Celtics. Garland and Ingram both suffer from playing with another star who plays the same position. It hinders them, and both would play stronger ball if swapped for eachother.
@@johnnyb6151 sigh* They don't have problems with another star. They have problems with another star that plays the same position as them. Get it? And thats not even really strange. Tatum and Brown are both small forwards and they found a way, but it took them half a decade and they're still the outlier, not the norm
Windy is so bitter towards the Cavs organization from his time as a LOW LEVEL beat writer for a tiny newspaper in Akron. Guys a clown who owes LeBron his entire life and career. 🤡
Windy just said...if you're 3rd player is on a max contract and he's not a max player then you're screwed..If EM gets ,and he will get the max, that's makes DG our 3rd max player...= We are screwed. Ja's next contract will start at least at 30 mill per year, that's what Hartenstein just got. Eventually DG will have to be moved to help the $ problem and the fit!
Why would he not leave the door open its business. But he stayed like he said so i dont get the constant spin cycle. If there were a chance to get a better situation then he may have left but really there was nothing out there really better
Why do they want him? Lmao ummm because offensive creation from don ingram and garland would be valuable in the playoffs? You need WING SCORING IN THE PLAYOFFS TO WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP YOU NUT
Are you forgetting what Garlands numbers looked liked before Mitchell got here. Mitchell makes no one better. Garland's and Mobley's development has staggered. Mobley was an All Star. 19-8. Should have kept the core four together. Garland,Allen, Markenan and Mobley. And looked for a two way wing. Okoro would go before Garland.
@@johnnyb6151garland was gifted an all star appearance only because the game was in Cleveland he’s not good Mitchell is by far better we should trade his ass and they will
A Tim Grover like trainer should be working with Mobley to sculp his scrawny lil body.....and a top flight skills coach should be working on developing his skill set and that goes for the whole team.
Mobley has definitely gotten bigger.. KD does pretty good and he's scrawny. When your almost 7' bulking up muscle mass isn't as easy but he does have a home gym now he got last yr and if you look at rookie pics he is larger now. But hopefully he puts on another 30# the next 2 yrs or so.
Might as well. BEFORE and AFTER Koby got Mitchell to re-sign, which he was probably going to do anyway, KOBY kicked back and RELAXED at his favorite bar while ALL the half decent free agents got SCOOPED UP. Looks like the CAVS are running it ALL back 🥴🥴🥴
Hard to say not knowing fully how Atkinson system is but I think it won't matter either way if we don't get a starting SF that is really good!! It's a huge hole right now imo.
Cavs must add length and strength. If one of the core four have to be moved to achieve that, then so be it. Garland is too small and weak to get far in the playoffs.
Nowhere near the Celtics?? They played them the best for the entire Boston run... and half of it was without Spida and entirely without JA... Lets not forget they took game 2 at their stadium AND both games 3 and 4 were plagued by refs looking to rig the games... In my eyes they ARE honestly better than the Celtics. The league just doesn't like the Cavs. Plain and simple.
Why would he say he would absolutely sign it while he is in the middle of a negotiation? That would’ve been a bad business move that would decrease his leverage.. These people look down their noses at us like we are idiots.. independent media 2024- until
I'm in favor for Cleveland going after PJ Tucker. He is extremely unhappy with the Clippers. I know he's old but we're not getting him for youth. He's got experience, Big Brother energy and he's the definition of grit and tenacity. Since we lost Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio, there's definitely been a void in the locker room. Tucker could definitely return that to form.
This is why JB should've been fired and replaced last yr the new head coach coukd show 2 small guards dont work even though we know this from the Portland experience and got a starting SF for him now there all but gone unless we get Hunter or Kyle
trade darius garland for ben simmons and picks, start tyson or bates at sf. That gives you nice balanced lineup and defensive nightmare for other teams.
Noo, the defiance was never about Donovan`s choice to sign the extension. He was irritated of the false narratives the he was clearly going to LA, MIA, or NY. ESPN was speculating that there was "NO WAY IN HELL He stays in Cleveland." Donovan had to come out and tell you guys, "I like it here. (Cleveland)" That's where the defiance came from. Not him signing the contract.
I guarantee you there was more “Donavon leaving Cavs” media coverage last year then everything else Cavs combined but windy saying “it wasn’t that bad” 😂 that’s all they talked about even in the midst of our playoff run
Gonna be 5 hours with windy soon. 🙏🏽🫡
Can't wait
I’ll be here✋🏻🤣
I hope so lol
15 minutes mate
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It would've been foolish for him to commit verbally during the season. Always have options because your job will. I'm glad he's here
No where near the Celtics? They were gonna take that series WITHOUT Allen until Mitchell went down
Once again, I thought Cleveland was going to beat the Celtics after they stole Game 2 in Boston. That’s until I finished the Spring 2024 semester at NIU, and my older brother picked me up to get me home for summer vacation, and then he broke my nearly $300 flat-screen TV, and the Celtics haven’t lost another playoff game until Game 4 of the NBA Finals as a result.
The Cavs will be one of the best teams in the league next year. Right there with Boston.
Boston wasn't even trying. They toyed with them the same way they did the pacers. You seen them turn up in the finals. The cavs don't have half the talent Boston does
@@JoeNotit you're adorable, son. No one is fooled by the BS. You need to pipe down right now.
The Cavs are supremely talented. Theyre just not fully developed yet the way Boston is. The second Mobley pops, you'll be making trades just to deal with him, and hes about to pop this year.
The Cavs are top team in the NBA, and it doesn't matter if you don't agree.
@@dearmas9068 🤣🤣🤣 you Homer's are ridiculous. Literally no one that thinks the cavs are the best team except the 3% of cavs fans that use emotion over logic.
Hes basically giving them enough time to build a contender.
They ARE a contender.
@@dearmas9068yes and no. If Kenny can get rotations optimized and Garland back in form . I do think we need a wing to replace max in the starters. We'll see.
Ingram is not worth max money.
@@dennisclanton5342 yes he is. So is Garland.
Both have struggled next to a star who plays the same position they do, and thays not abnormal. If a straight swap happened today, they would both look better than they have for the last 2 years.
@@dearmas9068 I don't see him as a 50 mil. Per yr player.
everyone forgets half the team was injured during the season and we were starting end of the bench players in the playoffs . this team over- performed given those odds imo .
Windy is smart and knows a lot. I just don’t like how arrogant he became after hitching himself to the Lebron wagon years ago. Again, seems like a smart dude. He just seems very dismissive of people he believes are beneath him nba-wise.
Love that the media took a big fat L with Donovan resigning
Allen is such a great contract that it really makes no sense to trade him. You’ll downgrade if matching contracts and you’ll take on too much contract in a 2 for 1.
He’s not built for the post season. That’s the problem
@@duganredhe was our second best player and was dominating Orlando before his injury.
@@williamphillips-ki1vt 2nd best player? That’s a hot take. All I know is he isn’t physical enough to play the 5 and when he sustained the injury (that he could’ve played through) he refused
@@duganred isn’t physical enough? He was dominating the magics physical centers all series until getting hurt 😂 he was a walking double double
@@duganred wether he played or not we lose that series. Then he risks further injuring it. Then if that does happen it drastically could change the following season. Mitchell ended up getting hurt so it wouldn’t have mattered if he played or not anyway
i love the sigining but lets be honest if the others dont step up its gone be the same old thing DMitchell with know help everyone must step up we will see.
Ingram still averaged 20/5/5 in the regular season, had a poor showing in the playoffs coming off injury. Dropped 30 against the same OKC team in the play-in one year prior, and averaged 27 against the Suns two years ago
I think Garland for BI made plenty sense for the Cavs, but with Dejounte there now the target would be Allen. Who knows what Mobley can grow into, but if the offense doesn’t work I think Allen has to be out
Bingo
Right now, they should bring back Marcus Morris find a starting 3d player
I completely agree when Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio left it definitely left a void within the Cavs locker room you need veterans on the court turn off the court. Especially when you got to dig deep.
Who suggests these questions for Chris, they're terrible! Get somebody that knows the NBA. The only people who are desperate for Ingram are people who just want to make a move for him because he's a name. I want nothing to do with him. He's not a max player and you already have contacts that are questionable other than Spida. I can tell Windy gets irritated at some of these questions...smh
He’s asking questions on behalf of the fan base. And they are well explained by Windy. It’s all good.
Ingram suffers from the same problem Garland is having. He plays with another star who plays the same position.
Ingram with Mobley and Mitchell would be significantly better than he is with Zion.
Why is everything like the sky is fallen with windy.
Because he is being realistic. He understands the salary cap rules.
I like the trades and upgrades they have made so far. Getting um and um. Oh wait
Moving Allen and Garland isn't for the regular season, it's for the playoffs. Anyone who thinks the core 4 can succeed in the playoffs knows nothing about playoff basketball.
Dan gilbert knows nothing about basketball nor how create a winner.
No Scotty Barnes please
I disagree with the statement that the cavaliers are nowhere near the celtics. They beat them during the regular season and were badly under manned during the playoffs.A healthy Dean Wade and a healthy Donovan Mitchell would have made a difference in the playoffs series. Wade is an absolute celtics killer at both ends of the floor.
The logo for the show looks like the logo for the Wonder Years
BRING IT HOME !!! 🏆
Bench needs to be upgraded, to inconsistent. Need some height as well.
Zach in Chicago is available
I guarantee you , The Cavaliers won't win a NBA Championship with the same players from 2023 and currently .
💥Remember the definition of insanity!!!!!
The Cavs need to sign another point guard that’s a facilitator and defender with highly. Maybe Lonzo Ball and prioritize Mobley Development. He has to eventually become the best player on both sides of the floor. That’s the key to success for Cleveland
Obviously a great signing with DM, BUT KOBY has TONS more work to do. With Niang, Strus, Okoro, Levert, Wade and even Garland, the Cavs are TOO small, inconsistent, not athletic enough, and need serious upgrades. I think Windy sees all that and knows this team is far from being elite, which prob explains his lack of enthusiasm and optimism.
Straight up Brandon Ingram for Jared Allen would be a big no. Ingram is just not that good. If you are looking for a long wing who can score, you can find someone better for the money too.
Bi is level above Allen not by much but still, besides defense he ain’t really that better than Ingram. Average 28-6-6 lmao.
Brandon is a twig and has never been 28-6-6.
The Cavs are not trading Allen, and for good reason. Garland for Ingram and a 2025 pick is the way we should go
A long wing who can score?
How about Emoni Bates?
WTF are we waiting for?
I agree.. No way I deal JA for Ingram but garland simply hasn't evolved.. Think I'd pull the trigger on that trade.. Wish dg the best he just didn't fit with spida @@dearmas9068
Mobley is about to pop off and be a star.
The Cavs are one of the hands down best teams in the NBA next year - right there with the Celtics.
Garland and Ingram both suffer from playing with another star who plays the same position. It hinders them, and both would play stronger ball if swapped for eachother.
@@dearmas9068 Why would you swap if they both have problems playing with a star player? I don't understand that logic.
@@johnnyb6151 sigh*
They don't have problems with another star. They have problems with another star that plays the same position as them. Get it?
And thats not even really strange. Tatum and Brown are both small forwards and they found a way, but it took them half a decade and they're still the outlier, not the norm
Windy is so bitter towards the Cavs organization from his time as a LOW LEVEL beat writer for a tiny newspaper in Akron. Guys a clown who owes LeBron his entire life and career. 🤡
The cavs are incompetent face it little boy
If Mobley can become a 20/10 player, the Cavs can be a top 4 seed. If not, they are probably fighting for 6th or the play-in.
Need other players Mobley contract next year
Core four?? too many shortcomings to contend...beat the Celtics? How?
Windy just said...if you're 3rd player is on a max contract and he's not a max player then you're screwed..If EM gets ,and he will get the max, that's makes DG our 3rd max player...= We are screwed. Ja's next contract will start at least at 30 mill per year, that's what Hartenstein just got. Eventually DG will have to be moved to help the $ problem and the fit!
Why would he not leave the door open its business. But he stayed like he said so i dont get the constant spin cycle. If there were a chance to get a better situation then he may have left but really there was nothing out there really better
Windy just said he doesn't think Altman has signed a bad contract? Garland on a $200M MAX...HUH???????
Maybe but not a guarantee either
Harrison Barnes over Ingram easily. Barnes would fit very nicely on this team if they can maintain their core 4
Why do they want him? Lmao ummm because offensive creation from don ingram and garland would be valuable in the playoffs? You need WING SCORING IN THE PLAYOFFS TO WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP YOU NUT
Cavs need to get rid of Garland and someone else for a running mate for Mitchell. You can't get through playoffs with this current roster.
Are you forgetting what Garlands numbers looked liked before Mitchell got here. Mitchell makes no one better. Garland's and Mobley's development has staggered. Mobley was an All Star. 19-8. Should have kept the core four together. Garland,Allen, Markenan and Mobley. And looked for a two way wing. Okoro would go before Garland.
@@johnnyb6151garland was gifted an all star appearance only because the game was in Cleveland he’s not good Mitchell is by far better we should trade his ass and they will
@@johnnyb61513 bigs would’ve never worked you don’t know anything you’re saying
@@TheRealDirtyDan94 It was working. Dude I've forgotten more basketball than you think you know.
@@johnnyb6151 stop it. Just stop. You can't win without a superstar or two. You just can't.
I think Darius probably not getting another Max contract unless he improves a lot.
Philly made Tyrese maxey wait...for the max...why can't the Cavs do that with Mobley!
Too bad they couldnt get lebron back so they could run him out of town a third time. Theyre incompetent and its hilarious. I love trainwrecks baby!!!
A Tim Grover like trainer should be working with Mobley to sculp his scrawny lil body.....and a top flight skills coach should be working on developing his skill set and that goes for the whole team.
Mobley has definitely gotten bigger.. KD does pretty good and he's scrawny. When your almost 7' bulking up muscle mass isn't as easy but he does have a home gym now he got last yr and if you look at rookie pics he is larger now. But hopefully he puts on another 30# the next 2 yrs or so.
When Allen , garland, okor , Lavert is replaced with players who can and want to work for there money then u will see changes
Bring in Phil Handy for Evan
Windy never reporting anything good. I don't get it !
Should the Cavs keep their Core 4 players?
I don’t think we have a choice!
Might as well. BEFORE and AFTER Koby got Mitchell to re-sign, which he was probably going to do anyway, KOBY kicked back and RELAXED at his favorite bar while ALL the half decent free agents got SCOOPED UP. Looks like the CAVS are running it ALL back 🥴🥴🥴
Hard to say not knowing fully how Atkinson system is but I think it won't matter either way if we don't get a starting SF that is really good!! It's a huge hole right now imo.
Cavs must add length and strength. If one of the core four have to be moved to achieve that, then so be it. Garland is too small and weak to get far in the playoffs.
No! Find a 3 way trade with Garland for Ingram.
He sounds like who knows absolutely nothing about the Cavs 😂
A healthy Cavs team beat Boston-
Brandon Ingram would be great for this team.
😂😂😂😂 This is hilarious. Mitchell sign and time to celebrate what ? CAVS can’t and will not win anything with that group
Step 1, don't listen to Windy. Homeboy is out of touch.
Brian looks run down and in need of a legitimate vacation.
Nowhere near the Celtics?? They played them the best for the entire Boston run... and half of it was without Spida and entirely without JA... Lets not forget they took game 2 at their stadium AND both games 3 and 4 were plagued by refs looking to rig the games... In my eyes they ARE honestly better than the Celtics. The league just doesn't like the Cavs. Plain and simple.
The Celtics didn't even have Porzingis. They aren't close as the team is currently constructed
Why would he say he would absolutely sign it while he is in the middle of a negotiation?
That would’ve been a bad business move that would decrease his leverage..
These people look down their noses at us like we are idiots.. independent media 2024- until
Most NBA fans are idiots
How do dudes that look like this get paid to always be wrong about sports? This 🤡 has said mitchell Is leaving for 2 years.
Evan and garland are A JOKE. THE LEAGUE IS LAUGHING AT THE LOSALIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Garlands contract is horrible
Nah. Garland is a star. Hes just struggling next to another star that plays the same position.
If Garland can run an offense, he will be great again.
That's exactly why we can't move him. Noone wants to pay that ridiculous contract for a 6' guard.
@@330wiz7 Garland is a star, son. Hes worth every penny, and plenty of teams would love to have him
If Evan was better he'd be on the select team.
Evan was always going to need development time. Hes going to be a star next year.
The question is Ingram for Garland.. Not Allen. Ingram is actually a better two-way player than Garland.
I'm in favor for Cleveland going after PJ Tucker. He is extremely unhappy with the Clippers. I know he's old but we're not getting him for youth. He's got experience, Big Brother energy and he's the definition of grit and tenacity. Since we lost Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio, there's definitely been a void in the locker room. Tucker could definitely return that to form.
We have too many undersized guys already.
This is why JB should've been fired and replaced last yr the new head coach coukd show 2 small guards dont work even though we know this from the Portland experience and got a starting SF for him now there all but gone unless we get Hunter or Kyle
This dude blinks to much
Lolwut
Why are you worried about that 😂?
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Brandon will have a great year if made happy especially new scene. Big mistake not trading for him. 💯😎💯 @cavs (x)
The guy Brian is a hater imo