Thank you for not editing out mistakes like breaking that choke shaft, or modifying the socket over and over. It's a nice reminder that even professionals struggle from time to time. Thanks for the honest, no bs video Taryl, you're the best!
As a 60+ yr old guy that grew up in a mower shop that my parents owned I definitely feel your pain. I am also glad that you decided to film your pain and not skip through a lot of it. Love watching your videos and learning and laughing.
@Laston Grantham luckily you don't get some of the ride on mowers we get in the UK as some of the brands we get have ride on mowers made in China, Italy and two from the UK. They are not 100% in quality and we tend to see them with all manner of similar faults.
Just want to add that you don't get a real John Deere until you spend a lot of money on a bigger tractor. Most cheaper smaller JD riding mowers are horrible with their plastic hoods and paint that flies off just looking at it.
It's refreshing to see the Master has issues with what should be a routine job, just like the rest of us. This is the type of video that the Master should do more of.
Thank you Taryl for making my day !! After 4 hours working on a POS Tray-Blit tractor, trying to replace the upper and lower trans belts, and now with the parts spread on the garage floor, waiting for more parts, I am relieved that I am not the only one that runs into brick walls , working on this stuff...(bad design) Oh yes, also, I bleed in the first 3 minutes of every repair or maintenance endeavor.......never fails ! You RULE !!!
Taryl, I wasn't even working on a John Deere but I came across this video and had to watch it. You guys make the best repair videos,and the sound effects amazing. Thanks for the down to earth mechanics.
One of the best videos that I have seen in a long time. So many of us can relate to these aggravating situations. You stuck with it and showed us some patience and tenacity. Loved the boys doing the skit. Had me laughing out loud a lot. Their acting is pretty good if you ask me. Thanks.
Skip lunch replacing the camshaft every fifth turn of the crankshaft wants to bind up and snap noise comes from the crankcase five more evolutions to the crankshaft 😮and binds up again speedy crankcase three times now everything looks fine could it be the extra fifteen thousand in ther gaskets Governor bind up I noticed if pressure against the governor shaft and turn it by hand it bind up every two revolutions of the crankshaft. 😢😢 Probably should have went with the original replacement gasket ..??? Thoughts would be appreciated
I can relate to this a lot. I can't tell you how many times a "quick and easy" job turned into a rodeo, just like in this video. Props to you for your near infinite patience.
This was quite funny to me... I am a mechanic of over 35 years. This kind of work, is quality. The characters in this skit, was pretty much spot on. This is exactly the kind of people you meet when looking for a mechanic.
I was a JD mechanic for 6 years. I've done a few of these. I don't remember the studs being that long. I believe I used a 10mm 1/4" drive shallow socket or was able to get with the boxed end of wrench. Love your program.
For being such a low budget video this is absolutely hilarious and informative. I love how engineers don't think about who has to work on things after the design. I had to deal with that for over 40 years in the aircraft industry.... also if you're going to destroy a socket do it with a harbor freight socket. LOL
@@gregmalott3693 Harbor Freight sockets really are not bad. Hardware can't tell the difference between them and Snap-On. The Pittsburgh line is always good enough for me. Icon is too rich for my blood.
There are some tools where it's so simple it's hard to mess up. A 12 point box end wrench is one of the ones where you can. When you make the points half a mm thick and all it's good for is stripping and rounding bolt heads.
I can't believe after working all day running a Landscape company with crews bring machines back to the shop to fix things they broke..... That I would get home and fall into the Taryl rabbit hole by watch hours of his video's . I will say for some reason its relaxing to watch but better yet it's entertaining and funny.
Thank you tayral always for your knowledge on your knowhow, entertainment and smartness, you are a blessing to me on helping me on many things, you are appreciated in what you do love ALL your videos, cameraman jr gary elkskin ronnie uncla andy and entire family, THANK YOU
Taryl I am with you today's lawnmowers are crap. I just finished putting a transmission in a Troy built and what should of been a simple job was a nightmare. I don't even have time to explain what happened to the actual one. Great video.
Absolutely love the added sound effects; they add so much Taryl! And EVERY mechanic cusses the engineers that torture them with bolts from Unobtainium.
17:00: I went through this nightmare with a Briggs Vanguard a couple of weeks ago on my Simplicity to replace a blown head gasket. I used some Gearwrench ratcheting box ends to get those exhaust bolts. The Vanguard also had the governor plate mounting bolts down there as well.
I have an old pass through socket set, and it's super thin, it fits right in, so the stud goes right through the socket wrench and I use a low profile socket.
Them kawasaki's look like a bear to service. I bet the other shop didn't have much experience, patience, or just didn't give a rat"s tail. Real nice work, Taryl. You the man!
Taryl?.....That job was worth it because:1. You fixed it, 2. We enjoyed watching. 3. We learned engineers and half asser's amount to a pile of what ain't even burnable....the fact you didn't add to that pile by mentioning it greatly opens my hand for a good shake. 🤝
It is a real pleasure to watch you work and solve these built-in service problems. Architects and design engineers never ever take service into consideration. I will never buy a John Deere.
the engine isn't complicated, its the way jd set it up that a nightmare. great vid as always, and the worst part is, you have alot of tools, if I had do that myself, it would take me 3 month or more, older machine are simpler and easier to work on
One of the reasons I hate to see a Deere come into the shop. They definitely don’t design things with the service guys in mind. Unfortunately I see more Deere than anything else….. But then MTD isn’t much better. They put the nut for one of the drive belt idlers underneath the footrest/fender pan so that it takes twice as long to change the idler than it should, because you have to remove the seat and fenders to get to the nut. Anymore, I just weld the nut in place, the way the factory should have done it.
I get this motor on Walk Behinds all the time, makes sense on the walk behinds. I don't really think it's kawasakis fault that JD tried squeezing it on their over shrouded over complicated junk. Like some of the other guys said, I wince when JD comes in the shop because I know I'll have to bend over backwards for a simple task.
@@curtmazur5155 yea, I have a similar engine but it’s the FX720V and it’s on my JD Z920M zero turn. They have the whole engine panel as one piece and 4 bolts removs it for 100% unrestricted access. I guess they have different markets in mind. That or there’s nothing they really can do with that small tractor platform.
Taryl - John Deere Horicon (JDH) is the one responsible for the exhaust manifold studs being too long, not Kawasaki. JDH could specify a shorter length stud, but that would probably incur an up charge to change from their standard-length stud for this application. Kawasaki rightly deserves criticism for their overuse of plastic components in/on their engines. Kawasaki has a demonstrated history that they do not know how to properly project durability of parts - which is extremely critical for polymeric and composite parts.
This is a early model the one. I worked on was a later one amd it wasmt like this . Deere. Use two different air filte rtoo with kowi. There stil best running engone to date.
Why is Kawasaki to blame for this F**KUP. JD CEOs and the "bean counters" DEMAND that Kawasaki make the engine as CHEAPLY as possible. Btw, did you notice where the engine was assembled.........good old USA. Those "AMERICAN" JD workers should have seen that there would be serviceability issues and changed those studs, but upper management thought "F**K" serviceability, WE NEED TO MAKE MONEY!
Kawasaki sell these engines to various other manufacturers but John Deere love to complicated them. In the UK we see Cub Cadets and other manufacturers who used Kawasaki engines and one thing they don't have that the JD machines have is silly plastic covers around the engine because John Deere try to stop people messing around with them.
@@bentullett6068 Plus, JD has "proprietary" service info on their tractors to keep you from getting service from any shop other than a "factory authorized" JD Facility!
Thanks Taryl, my dad taught us not to be afraid to make a tool but to use the ones we have sometimes I feel like I've got the whole shop pulled out. Central California watching
My hired man and I were taking a break this past Saturday from baling hay in the heat when this very subject came up: JDs are now almost impossible to repair. He was trying to fix a neighbor's mower (all the small engine shops in this area have closed) and found a grease fitting behind a welded plate. He removed the plate with a zip wheel and now you can grease that joint. What a mess.
Hey Taryl, thank you for all the great videos and the humor. I’m learning a lot and very entertained. I’m sure this all takes a lot more time and work than one would imagine. Good stuff.
The customer should take that Grass Rats Garage bill back to "The Other Garage" and tell them that they want to be reimbursed for the repair that they caused. I'm sure that this video would stand up in small claims court.
Another great video, thanks. My Dad worked on cars and trucks for 45 years. He never used a torque wrench, unless it was time to put a head back on. He could tighten bolts right to spec by feel mostly but did not play around with the head, lol.
Taryl, I love your videos and have learned so much down through the years. After seeing you struggling and bending down to see what you are working on, may I make a suggestion that will help alleviate that? Install a cheap electric hoist from Harbor Freight and lift the front of the mowers up to a working level. I had a shop for 22 years until my hands would not work anymore and the last 6 years using the hoist were the easiest years of working on them. I wish I had invested in the hoist from the get go. Lift the front or back end to nearly a vertical position if necessary and it will eliminate the crawling on the ground. Keep up the good videos and best of luck in the future. Carry on Master of Mechanics.
Thank you for sharing. It's amazing how a simple problem (broken fan) can cause the stuck valve. I would still like to know how the heck they broke the fan to begin with or why it was at the 1st shop.
Great video Taryl. I'm working on the head gasket on a Cub Cadet (MTD) with Kawasaki FR730V. Engine is very similar, except head bolts use 14mm wrench. I also was struggling a little with the extra length of the exhaust studs, so I'll definitely take a little length off before re-installing. Thanks!!
The reson the studs are that long is they act as heat dissapstion so the nuts don't freeze on their. A lot of car and truck guys use really long studs then use spacers to put the nuts away from the engine so they don't freeze
I learned the hard way. Don't try to bump the motor just a bit with the cover half on just laying there. It busted off a bunch of fins is a second. Had no idea they were that fragile. Hardly left a mark on the plastic cover. Just found a spot were it cleaned off the dirt. That was $30+ I didn't plan on spending. I now methodically check the cover and rotate the engine by hand every time I fool with the engine cover. Well, It looks purdy now with the brand new fan and top screen lol.
I remember not being able to replace the shroud screws on a Briggs on the underneath metal Once I pulled the engine to do it, they got changed to studs after I found a fully threaded machine bolt. Easy to do now. Fluffy had quite the time building his nest which was half the size of a loaf of bread. That's why it had to come apart
12:32 Based upon what you've discovered up to this point, my guess is the tripod (if that's what it's called) has buggered up threads for the fan screen. 18:43 I wonder if Kawasuckee assembled both heads to the muffler, carburetor, intake manifold and installed them as a single assembly. You'll probably have to check the other head anyway.
@@mikespain8655 what are their different tiers, from best to worst? I'm just now learning about a lot of this. I have picked up several different mowers, blowers, trimmers, chainsaws....ect that have been put out to the curb. Usually it's just a carb rebuild and fuel lines. I sell them cheap to kids that are mowing lawns for the summer. In all honesty I have very limited experience with different brands and whatnot. Its kind of a new hobby. I was initially surprised when ordering parts, at how many brands (manufacturers) are actually the same. Anything new information is always appreciated.
It wasn't Kawasaki (Which by the way is a good motor, Taryl doesn't work on many for a reason) they are assembled in the good old USA. Bought a new 5k garden tractor last year and it must have been a bunch of redneck who put it together, even the "Proudly made in the USA" sticker was put on crooked :(
@@mikespain8655 Anyone that remembers the Kawasaki Z1 motorcycle, KNOWS that Kawasaki builds QUALITY products. Having owned a 1975 Z1 motorcycle, I can attest to Kawasaki QUALITY. Perfection!
A couple of years ago I did a valve job on a very similar Kawasaki FS541V with the same muffler arrangement. I ended up pulling the engine. It was not a fun day. Wish I’d thought of shortening the studs like you did.
Great video I took my mom's John Deere in for the governor replacement they had it for three months it ended up costing 600.00 before it came back still runs like crap going back soon .
I've been there several times. Sometimes i spend more time repairing goof ups. The original problem to repair would have been cheaper, but someone wanted to save money only to cause more problem and work to do. Well the honest thing i do is charge for my time. I can't cheat myself to do free skillful repairs. Thanks for all the videos.
When I worked at the Ford house the parts mgr. Decided he was going to replace me without my knowledge. His cousin showed up one day with a 5 gallon bucket of tools. I had been troubleshooting electronic systems for years and was replaced by a mechanic in a bucket. He lasted 2 months. They tried to rehire me and I told them to pound sand. Everyone's a fckg mechanic. I couldn't stick around. The commercials ate up my boobtube time.
I NEVER WATCH COMMERCIALS. I got windscribe in the extensions and it stops even the TH-cam one at the beginning. Windscribe is a VPN and everything blocker and it works wonders without throwing up the annoying boxes trying to sell you something or telling you have a message. It is simple start and forget. It even blocks ad sense ad's you get on the side of the website that fill in the gaps.
Great video as it is unvarnished, straight forward showing that sometimes we need to make adjustments to our initial plan as we find some obstacles like access space or plastic parts that become brittle and break. Keep the unvarnished video's coming as we learn more from actual repairs even more so than highly polished stuff that people don't learn the intricacies of repairing small engine machines.
Hey Taryl the man with the "Coalgate Smile" is it true that these air cooled engines should be run at full throttle while cutting grass for maximum air cooling ? Also I always used a gas leaf blower to clean off engine when done cutting to clear dirt out of fins.
I remember the first time I hit a video of Taryl I thought, WTF who is this guy etc etc. But after about a year and many a time referencing repairing different things for my own JD LA145 mower I've watched a few different Taryl videos. I have to give credit where credits due, Taryl's a hell of a good mechanic. I've been fixing my own machines, vehicles and everything else since forever but with todays videos it makes that task a lot simpler. I tip my hat to Taryl's video cause not only are his video's well explained and accurate but the extra touch of comedy added makes for a few good laughs along the way. Trust me when I say, been there done that, when were talking about a job turning into a nightmare and taking way longer that anyone could ever have expected, lol... Another day tomorrow !
I’ve been a Ford technician for almost 40 years but working on my small engines and lawn equipment can be more frustrating than a communication network problem on a ‘21 explorer! Ok not really because I can drink some Hamms when I’m working on the lawnmower 😋
Amazing work on the video! I’ll never understand why john deer and other manufacturers, won’t just pay the extra 50 cents and make metal parts, honestly the same with some car manufacturers. Tryna be cheap with planned obsolescence I say it is. Keep up the great work! It’s a shame how other shops won’t take responsibility for mistakes and own up to it. I hope to see more Taryl and friends.
Taryl, in addition to your great mechanical skills, you are a great researcher when it comes to deducing past errors at other shops. Remember the Kawasaki motorcycle ads "Let the good times roll?" It doesn't apply to mowers with their engines!
I'm one of those backyarders and I have repaired many motors that have been messed up by the "shops" everything from miss diagnosed carburetor issues, dropped valve seats and they say a motor is blown up. I've done many complete rebuilds on Kohler's, Kawasaki, Briggs, onan and others, one of my rebuilds on a Kohler was rebuilt at 3600 hrs and now has 6000 hrs still running strong, that one is at my local golf course
I'm facing the same issue with a FR730v and was curious to see if you had a magical fix for them. Turns out, you did EXACTLYwhat I am planning on doing. now, a few tips I have learned. First, it takes less time to take the engine out than it does to remove all the crap they put around it. Second, the older I get, the less time I want to spend bent over. Putting it on a bench just makes it easier on my body. Third, contrary to popular belief, you CAN straighten the push rods and re-use them successfully. Now, for the bad news for you. The piece you tossed aside needs to be in there. It is the valve seal that keeps the oil from running down the stem. Since you added more play to the stem, you are REALLY going to want that back in there. I've been doing small engines for over fifty years and have seen it all. Thanks for confirming my thought process on this one.
It takes a lot of heat to seize a valve. There are two or three situations where this can happen....but that's another story. This problem was caused by malfeasance: trying to hide a mistake. Luckily, the rest of the motor survived. But no matter what, a lot of parts have had their lives shortened. Hopefully, the customer will always choose yir garage for service. Or if they go to a different shop, they state that the engine was over heated around 150 hours . That one sentence will relieve the technician/mechanic. They'll know what to expect and won't take it out on the customer. Straight up: the customer notified you that it was smoked at one time. So they will understand if any bizarre failure or difficulty arises. Because that's what happens when a engine/motor is overheated: everything on that machine has been exposed to something beyond its design. The guilty repair shop owes the customer some compensation...and apology. ...some mechanic just lost their job. Where's my dinner
Taryl is pretty sharp 👌 I wish he lived as close as 200 miles near my home in Kentucky ? He would be the only mechanic working on my small engines. I'd like to hang around his shop for about year......Like they say.... What you learn is what ya know ? THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR VIDEOS
I know it seems like a lot of extra work but it takes about 15 minutes(or less) to pull that engine and makes it much easier to work on, also if not for a failed cooling fan or another self-inflicted issue the heads would never fail. the most common issues we have had with them are the coils, intake gaskets, and sticking choke shaft. they are a pretty good mower overall. I do have to agree that deere quality is not what it used to be.
Thank you for not editing out mistakes like breaking that choke shaft, or modifying the socket over and over. It's a nice reminder that even professionals struggle from time to time. Thanks for the honest, no bs video Taryl, you're the best!
Those moments are why its called work.
I'd rather him edit it out so it's more like how things are when I repair stuff.
@@Sundog0811 really?
@@Sundog0811 🤪
@@richbadour6002 lol, you know hes fibbing.
Thanks Taryl. Disabled Army Veteran . I like watching your videos and learn something new every time. Great job.
As a 60+ yr old guy that grew up in a mower shop that my parents owned I definitely feel your pain.
I am also glad that you decided to film your pain and not skip through a lot of it.
Love watching your videos and learning and laughing.
I look forward to these vid"s every Sunday!
@Laston Grantham luckily you don't get some of the ride on mowers we get in the UK as some of the brands we get have ride on mowers made in China, Italy and two from the UK. They are not 100% in quality and we tend to see them with all manner of similar faults.
Just want to add that you don't get a real John Deere until you spend a lot of money on a bigger tractor. Most cheaper smaller JD riding mowers are horrible with their plastic hoods and paint that flies off just looking at it.
@@robertI153 if you don't know, then I doubt I could explain it to you.
I thought I was the only one criticizing engineers and designers
Please don’t ever retire, Taryl!
It's refreshing to see the Master has issues with what should be a routine job, just like the rest of us. This is the type of video that the Master should do more of.
"Master Hands" AND BRAIN!
Thank you Taryl for making my day !!
After 4 hours working on a POS Tray-Blit tractor, trying to replace the upper and lower trans belts, and now with the parts spread on the garage floor, waiting for more parts, I am relieved that I am not the only one that runs into brick walls , working on this stuff...(bad design)
Oh yes, also, I bleed in the first 3 minutes of every repair or maintenance endeavor.......never fails !
You RULE !!!
What a POS. From design to quality.
Never heard of this Tray-Bilt brand. I only use name brands like Jim Beere.
@@lawnmowerdude Tray-BLIT !!
I'm guaranteed to drive my head into something anytime I'm working on something! Never fails! Lol
The "bean counters" are alive and well everywhere.
Your a regular Columbo, I love when you unravel these mysteries. Columbo is another one of my heroes 👍😎
Taryl, I wasn't even working on a John Deere but I came across this video and had to watch it. You guys make the best repair videos,and the sound effects amazing. Thanks for the down to earth mechanics.
One of the best videos that I have seen in a long time. So many of us can relate to these aggravating situations. You stuck with it and showed us some patience and tenacity.
Loved the boys doing the skit. Had me laughing out loud a lot. Their acting is pretty good if you ask me. Thanks.
Unless I'm in a hurry.
Skip lunch replacing the camshaft every fifth turn of the crankshaft wants to bind up and snap noise comes from the crankcase five more evolutions to the crankshaft 😮and binds up again speedy crankcase three times now everything looks fine could it be the extra fifteen thousand in ther gaskets Governor bind up I noticed if pressure against the governor shaft and turn it by hand it bind up every two revolutions of the crankshaft. 😢😢 Probably should have went with the original replacement gasket ..??? Thoughts would be appreciated
What a ball buster to work on.
....that's what happens when engineers design equipment, instead of mechanics designing equipent.....
It's why there's hardly any small engine shops anymore and why mechanics that work for dealers are leaving the industry in massive droves
I can relate to this a lot. I can't tell you how many times a "quick and easy" job turned into a rodeo, just like in this video. Props to you for your near infinite patience.
You should work on cars
It seems like every little job turns into an order. Just ask my wife!
“Every ten minute job is one broken bolt away from being a three day nightmare.” A quote from the most brilliant man I ever knew…… My dad.
who needs movies and tv when you have this chanel. All a motor head needs. ten thumbs up
Like my grandpa used to say “You just have to be smarter then what your working with” love your video’s!!!
You Rock man!!!!!
It's backward, the dumbest the engineer was the smarter the mechanic has to be.
This was quite funny to me... I am a mechanic of over 35 years. This kind of work, is quality. The characters in this skit, was pretty much spot on. This is exactly the kind of people you meet when looking for a mechanic.
right.. .....mechanic, not m a n i a c .......or the manic-mechanic....nowadays, computer and electronics techs........ called ' mekaniks '.....
I was a JD mechanic for 6 years. I've done a few of these. I don't remember the studs being that long. I believe I used a 10mm 1/4" drive shallow socket or was able to get with the boxed end of wrench. Love your program.
Those "quality" inspectors should have seen the problem, or maybe they are now "quantity" inspectors!
Haven"t laughed so much in along time, thank you for being the professional that you are. You are a good man.
Yeah, "Little Johnny" needs his own TH-cam channel. He would probably have 100K views within a week.
Great video as always! The unnecessary complexity of that JD mower is going to give me nightmares! All over a broken fan.
Taryl is amazing! So free with so much valuable information. What a guy!
Thanks Taryl. I've been repairing other people's mistakes as well. It's "amazing" what you can find.
For being such a low budget video this is absolutely hilarious and informative. I love how engineers don't think about who has to work on things after the design. I had to deal with that for over 40 years in the aircraft industry.... also if you're going to destroy a socket do it with a harbor freight socket. LOL
It may be low budget, but it is high production value and alot of work goes into making it a quality production.
Harbor Freight are the best tools you'll ever find.
@@1pcfred I was just saying that the price of the tools are so that you can afford to trash one To make something else.
@@gregmalott3693 Harbor Freight sockets really are not bad. Hardware can't tell the difference between them and Snap-On. The Pittsburgh line is always good enough for me. Icon is too rich for my blood.
There are some tools where it's so simple it's hard to mess up. A 12 point box end wrench is one of the ones where you can. When you make the points half a mm thick and all it's good for is stripping and rounding bolt heads.
I can't believe after working all day running a Landscape company with crews bring machines back to the shop to fix things they broke.....
That I would get home and fall into the Taryl rabbit hole by watch hours of his video's . I will say for some reason its relaxing to watch but better yet it's entertaining and funny.
I TOTALLY AGREE! I will watch Taryl bring vintage engines back to life, even though I am really not interested in ancient engines.
Thank you tayral always for your knowledge on your knowhow, entertainment and smartness, you are a blessing to me on helping me on many things, you are appreciated in what you do love ALL your videos, cameraman jr gary elkskin ronnie uncla andy and entire family, THANK YOU
Reminds me of almost every project I get into…
Awesome video!
Willy from Ontario really appreciates your videos on small engine's.
Thank you Taryl.
I learn something new everyday.
Cheers.
Taryl I am with you today's lawnmowers are crap. I just finished putting a transmission in a Troy built and what should of been a simple job was a nightmare. I don't even have time to explain what happened to the actual one. Great video.
Most Troy is xx xx xx 🤐
I’m so glad I have mid depth sockets. Thanks for posting this video. It was a real eye-opener. Be blessed my friend. John.
Magnet on a stick what a genius concept whoever invented that one ought to be proud 😉👍
This is where I come to learn and laugh at the same time. Great video.
Good job taryl, you have a great talent.
Absolutely love the added sound effects; they add so much Taryl! And EVERY mechanic cusses the engineers that torture them with bolts from Unobtainium.
I love the music when something bad is about to happen,lol
17:00: I went through this nightmare with a Briggs Vanguard a couple of weeks ago on my Simplicity to replace a blown head gasket. I used some Gearwrench ratcheting box ends to get those exhaust bolts. The Vanguard also had the governor plate mounting bolts down there as well.
Taryl, I thought that I was the only one that has that kind of lock working on things!! It's like that when I work on ANYTHING!!! GOD BLESS YOU!
I have an old pass through socket set, and it's super thin, it fits right in, so the stud goes right through the socket wrench and I use a low profile socket.
Them kawasaki's look like a bear to service. I bet the other shop didn't have much experience, patience, or just didn't give a rat"s tail. Real nice work, Taryl. You the man!
not kawasaki lack of that shows by seeing the silicon sealer by the intake manifold gasket
So, Kawasaki was responsible for the long studs? Kawasaki shipped the engine in pieces to JD, it was JD that installed the wrong studs.
Taryl?.....That job was worth it because:1. You fixed it, 2. We enjoyed watching. 3. We learned engineers and half asser's amount to a pile of what ain't even burnable....the fact you didn't add to that pile by mentioning it greatly opens my hand for a good shake. 🤝
I laughed out loud at the “that special socket is $1000”
It is a real pleasure to watch you work and solve these built-in service problems. Architects and design engineers never ever take service into consideration. I will never buy a John Deere.
the engine isn't complicated, its the way jd set it up that a nightmare. great vid as always, and the worst part is, you have alot of tools, if I had do that myself, it would take me 3 month or more, older machine are simpler and easier to work on
I’ve got a 1994 John Deere 320 sitting in my shop now, it’s as big a pain to pull a head and it’s water cooled.
One of the reasons I hate to see a Deere come into the shop. They definitely don’t design things with the service guys in mind. Unfortunately I see more Deere than anything else….. But then MTD isn’t much better. They put the nut for one of the drive belt idlers underneath the footrest/fender pan so that it takes twice as long to change the idler than it should, because you have to remove the seat and fenders to get to the nut. Anymore, I just weld the nut in place, the way the factory should have done it.
I get this motor on Walk Behinds all the time, makes sense on the walk behinds. I don't really think it's kawasakis fault that JD tried squeezing it on their over shrouded over complicated junk. Like some of the other guys said, I wince when JD comes in the shop because I know I'll have to bend over backwards for a simple task.
@@curtmazur5155 yea, I have a similar engine but it’s the FX720V and it’s on my JD Z920M zero turn. They have the whole engine panel as one piece and 4 bolts removs it for 100% unrestricted access. I guess they have different markets in mind. That or there’s nothing they really can do with that small tractor platform.
Exactly, why blame Kawasaki for the JD "bean counters" screw up.
Watched you for a number of yrs. now. Love you stuff. Thanks for sharing.
You never cease to amaze me Taryl! Keep up the good work.
Taryl, that is why I watch you, so I can learn me how to fix things myself. Too many knuckleheads and scammers.
Taryl - John Deere Horicon (JDH) is the one responsible for the exhaust manifold studs being too long, not Kawasaki. JDH could specify a shorter length stud, but that would probably incur an up charge to change from their standard-length stud for this application. Kawasaki rightly deserves criticism for their overuse of plastic components in/on their engines. Kawasaki has a demonstrated history that they do not know how to properly project durability of parts - which is extremely critical for polymeric and composite parts.
This is a early model the one. I worked on was a later one amd it wasmt like this . Deere. Use two different air filte rtoo with kowi. There stil best running engone to date.
Why is Kawasaki to blame for this F**KUP. JD CEOs and the "bean counters" DEMAND that Kawasaki make the engine as CHEAPLY as possible. Btw, did you notice where the engine was assembled.........good old USA. Those "AMERICAN" JD workers should have seen that there would be serviceability issues and changed those studs, but upper management thought "F**K" serviceability, WE NEED TO MAKE MONEY!
I like that you fixed someone else's bolix. You should be proud Taryl.
At least the valve clearance is easy to set! Nice of em to be so thoughtful 🤪 Great video guys, thanks👍
Thanks for sharing your considerable insight and experience solving the customers problems caused by the damaged fan.
Nice work!! Love your common sense approaches!!
You let it slip Taryl, " retire". NO, not even maybe. Keep on team Taryl! You guys are the best!! Thanks!
I love your Respect for the John Deere and Kawmasaki engineers. 😅👍
Kawasaki sell these engines to various other manufacturers but John Deere love to complicated them. In the UK we see Cub Cadets and other manufacturers who used Kawasaki engines and one thing they don't have that the JD machines have is silly plastic covers around the engine because John Deere try to stop people messing around with them.
@@bentullett6068 Plus, JD has "proprietary" service info on their tractors to keep you from getting service from any shop other than a "factory authorized" JD Facility!
Thanks Taryl, my dad taught us not to be afraid to make a tool but to use the ones we have sometimes I feel like I've got the whole shop pulled out.
Central California watching
My hired man and I were taking a break this past Saturday from baling hay in the heat when this very subject came up: JDs are now almost impossible to repair. He was trying to fix a neighbor's mower (all the small engine shops in this area have closed) and found a grease fitting behind a welded plate. He removed the plate with a zip wheel and now you can grease that joint. What a mess.
Where do you live that you’re getting a first cutting in May?!! Probably not the US.
Great video taryl,been watching for a couple years,the best small engine and equipment repair channel on you tube keep up the awesome work
Hi Taryl, how do determine how much to charge for the used parts?
Look at the clock on the back wall!
Hey Taryl, thank you for all the great videos and the humor. I’m learning a lot and very entertained. I’m sure this all takes a lot more time and work than one would imagine. Good stuff.
The customer should take that Grass Rats Garage bill back to "The Other Garage" and tell them that they want to be reimbursed for the repair that they caused. I'm sure that this video would stand up in small claims court.
The other garage is usually the customer or their cousin. Lol
How do you prove they did it?
@@tonysheerness2427 you don't
@@johns_jokes exactly
How much is your time worth?
Another great video, thanks. My Dad worked on cars and trucks for 45 years. He never used a torque wrench, unless it was time to put a head back on. He could tighten bolts right to spec by feel mostly but did not play around with the head, lol.
Taryl, I love your videos and have learned so much down through the years. After seeing you struggling and bending down to see what you are working on, may I make a suggestion that will help alleviate that? Install a cheap electric hoist from Harbor Freight and lift the front of the mowers up to a working level. I had a shop for 22 years until my hands would not work anymore and the last 6 years using the hoist were the easiest years of working on them. I wish I had invested in the hoist from the get go. Lift the front or back end to nearly a vertical position if necessary and it will eliminate the crawling on the ground. Keep up the good videos and best of luck in the future. Carry on Master of Mechanics.
Thank you for sharing. It's amazing how a simple problem (broken fan) can cause the stuck valve. I would still like to know how the heck they broke the fan to begin with or why it was at the 1st shop.
might be time to invest in some ratchet wrenches they sure do help in those tight spaces
Great video Taryl. I'm working on the head gasket on a Cub Cadet (MTD) with Kawasaki FR730V. Engine is very similar, except head bolts use 14mm wrench. I also was struggling a little with the extra length of the exhaust studs, so I'll definitely take a little length off before re-installing. Thanks!!
The reson the studs are that long is they act as heat dissapstion so the nuts don't freeze on their. A lot of car and truck guys use really long studs then use spacers to put the nuts away from the engine so they don't freeze
When I'm fortunate enough, I change the exhaust nuts with brass nuts. It's been working good for decades now.
Dude, I was thinking you should have done a lawnmower detective skit right before you mentioned them. Those guys are the best in the business!!!
You need a set of Gearwrench 1/4" drive impact swivels and 1/4" impact swivel adapter.
The length and swivel action is incredible for stuff like this
I learned the hard way. Don't try to bump the motor just a bit with the cover half on just laying there. It busted off a bunch of fins is a second. Had no idea they were that fragile. Hardly left a mark on the plastic cover. Just found a spot were it cleaned off the dirt. That was $30+ I didn't plan on spending. I now methodically check the cover and rotate the engine by hand every time I fool with the engine cover. Well, It looks purdy now with the brand new fan and top screen lol.
X2. I wont make that mistake again!
There is always one nut stopping the whole project. Same thing happens to me every time. Great video!
I remember not being able to replace the shroud screws on a Briggs on the underneath metal
Once I pulled the engine to do it, they got changed to studs after I found a fully threaded machine bolt. Easy to do now.
Fluffy had quite the time building his nest which was half the size of a loaf of bread. That's why it had to come apart
This one was hilarious to watch, made my day to hear your insight on abbreviations.
12:32 Based upon what you've discovered up to this point, my guess is the tripod (if that's what it's called) has buggered up threads for the fan screen.
18:43 I wonder if Kawasuckee assembled both heads to the muffler, carburetor, intake manifold and installed them as a single assembly. You'll probably have to check the other head anyway.
The FS601 is the third tier of quality (commercial grade) for Kawasaki. You obviously don't know about Kawasaki or quality.
@@mikespain8655 what are their different tiers, from best to worst? I'm just now learning about a lot of this. I have picked up several different mowers, blowers, trimmers, chainsaws....ect that have been put out to the curb.
Usually it's just a carb rebuild and fuel lines. I sell them cheap to kids that are mowing lawns for the summer.
In all honesty I have very limited experience with different brands and whatnot. Its kind of a new hobby.
I was initially surprised when ordering parts, at how many brands (manufacturers) are actually the same.
Anything new information is always appreciated.
It wasn't Kawasaki (Which by the way is a good motor, Taryl doesn't work on many for a reason) they are assembled in the good old USA. Bought a new 5k garden tractor last year and it must have been a bunch of redneck who put it together, even the "Proudly made in the USA" sticker was put on crooked :(
@@mikespain8655 Anyone that remembers the Kawasaki Z1 motorcycle, KNOWS that Kawasaki builds QUALITY products. Having owned a 1975 Z1 motorcycle, I can attest to Kawasaki QUALITY. Perfection!
You da man Terrell. We enjoyed the video. Lots of good instructions and funny stories too. Lol. Thanks 👍👍👍❤️
Great job Taryl 👍
A couple of years ago I did a valve job on a very similar Kawasaki FS541V with the same muffler arrangement. I ended up pulling the engine. It was not a fun day. Wish I’d thought of shortening the studs like you did.
Great video I took my mom's John Deere in for the governor replacement they had it for three months it ended up costing 600.00 before it came back still runs like crap going back soon .
Had a throttle cable replaced at JD took them 3 weeks to fix.
Not being a critic, but I think the mistake is, going back to the same place that couldn't fix the problem the first time.
I've been there several times. Sometimes i spend more time repairing goof ups. The original problem to repair would have been cheaper, but someone wanted to save money only to cause more problem and work to do. Well the honest thing i do is charge for my time. I can't cheat myself to do free skillful repairs. Thanks for all the videos.
When I worked at the Ford house the parts mgr. Decided he was going to replace me without my knowledge. His cousin showed up one day with a 5 gallon bucket of tools. I had been troubleshooting electronic systems for years and was replaced by a mechanic in a bucket. He lasted 2 months. They tried to rehire me and I told them to pound sand.
Everyone's a fckg mechanic.
I couldn't stick around. The commercials ate up my boobtube time.
Yep, I know the type. When the mechanic carries his tools in 5 gallon buckets watch out.
I NEVER WATCH COMMERCIALS. I got windscribe in the extensions and it stops even the TH-cam one at the beginning. Windscribe is a VPN and everything blocker and it works wonders without throwing up the annoying boxes trying to sell you something or telling you have a message. It is simple start and forget. It even blocks ad sense ad's you get on the side of the website that fill in the gaps.
Add ublock origin to your browser. You won’t ever see another add again.
@@spagsketti so I surf on an Android...
@@FishFind3000 doesn't work on my android
Great video as it is unvarnished, straight forward showing that sometimes we need to make adjustments to our initial plan as we find some obstacles like access space or plastic parts that become brittle and break. Keep the unvarnished video's coming as we learn more from actual repairs even more so than highly polished stuff that people don't learn the intricacies of repairing small engine machines.
Taryl for president 2024!!!!
YES I LIKE THAT
Your makeup and wardrobe and special effects teams are too notch!
This must’ve come from Ronnie’s Mower Repair Emporium
New shirt: Ronnie's Mower Repair Emporium. Or some variation that has a goofy acronym. Nice work, sir!
I just got my "Ronnie's junk and Stuff" stickers from there online store! lol
Hey Taryl the man with the "Coalgate Smile" is it true that these air cooled engines should be run at full throttle while cutting grass for maximum air cooling ? Also I always used a gas leaf blower to clean off engine when done cutting to clear dirt out of fins.
My brain crashed at "6 months in the other shop". I am betting on the "something fell on it" theory.
Vary good my friend, That got a little tuff ya did good , I enjoyed watching ya fix the bugger . Be safe thank you for taking us along.
"That car has an enormous amount of power" I spit my coffee out laughing!
Taryl love those songs on the fly. Thanks for the tips on custom tool! Great vid!
I remember the first time I hit a video of Taryl I thought, WTF who is this guy etc etc. But after about a year and many a time referencing repairing different things for my own JD LA145 mower I've watched a few different Taryl videos. I have to give credit where credits due, Taryl's a hell of a good mechanic. I've been fixing my own machines, vehicles and everything else since forever but with todays videos it makes that task a lot simpler. I tip my hat to Taryl's video cause not only are his video's well explained and accurate but the extra touch of comedy added makes for a few good laughs along the way. Trust me when I say, been there done that, when were talking about a job turning into a nightmare and taking way longer that anyone could ever have expected, lol... Another day tomorrow !
I’ve been a Ford technician for almost 40 years but working on my small engines and lawn equipment can be more frustrating than a communication network problem on a ‘21 explorer! Ok not really because I can drink some Hamms when I’m working on the lawnmower 😋
Great video. I think that’s the most frustration and trouble I’ve seen you have Taryl.
Glad to see Mommy Cat in the outtakes!
Amazing work on the video!
I’ll never understand why john deer and other manufacturers, won’t just pay the extra 50 cents and make metal parts, honestly the same with some car manufacturers. Tryna be cheap with planned obsolescence I say it is. Keep up the great work! It’s a shame how other shops won’t take responsibility for mistakes and own up to it. I hope to see more Taryl and friends.
It’s usually more then 50 cents and if your selling thousands of units a few bucks per unit is a nice chunk of change.
You guys need your own TV show! It's funny!!!
Taryl has to be a detective on some of his jobs. He can tell when someone has been messing with stuff before it comes into his shop.
A lot of times you can trace it back to the last mechanic that worked on it ..
Taryl, in addition to your great mechanical skills, you are a great researcher when it comes to deducing past errors at other shops. Remember the Kawasaki motorcycle ads "Let the good times roll?" It doesn't apply to mowers with their engines!
That's because when Kawasaki designed AND built the Z1 (903 "express") JD "bean counters" were NOT part of the equation!!
I'm one of those backyarders and I have repaired many motors that have been messed up by the "shops" everything from miss diagnosed carburetor issues, dropped valve seats and they say a motor is blown up. I've done many complete rebuilds on Kohler's, Kawasaki, Briggs, onan and others, one of my rebuilds on a Kohler was rebuilt at 3600 hrs and now has 6000 hrs still running strong, that one is at my local golf course
Great video man. I will say this, watching a pro struggle and get frustrated gives a hack like me hope to not give up when the going gets tough.
Manufacturers don't want to make their products easy to fix. They want you to buy a new one. Just like the car companies.
Yeah and it keeps the manufacturing companies fat cats while the people that are the consumers are starving it is ridiculous
Yeah, they call it "planned obsolescence"
They are morons
I'm facing the same issue with a FR730v and was curious to see if you had a magical fix for them. Turns out, you did EXACTLYwhat I am planning on doing. now, a few tips I have learned. First, it takes less time to take the engine out than it does to remove all the crap they put around it. Second, the older I get, the less time I want to spend bent over. Putting it on a bench just makes it easier on my body. Third, contrary to popular belief, you CAN straighten the push rods and re-use them successfully. Now, for the bad news for you. The piece you tossed aside needs to be in there. It is the valve seal that keeps the oil from running down the stem. Since you added more play to the stem, you are REALLY going to want that back in there. I've been doing small engines for over fifty years and have seen it all. Thanks for confirming my thought process on this one.
It takes a lot of heat to seize a valve. There are two or three situations where this can happen....but that's another story. This problem was caused by malfeasance: trying to hide a mistake. Luckily, the rest of the motor survived. But no matter what, a lot of parts have had their lives shortened. Hopefully, the customer will always choose yir garage for service. Or if they go to a different shop, they state that the engine was over heated around 150 hours . That one sentence will relieve the technician/mechanic. They'll know what to expect and won't take it out on the customer. Straight up: the customer notified you that it was smoked at one time. So they will understand if any bizarre failure or difficulty arises. Because that's what happens when a engine/motor is overheated: everything on that machine has been exposed to something beyond its design. The guilty repair shop owes the customer some compensation...and apology. ...some mechanic just lost their job. Where's my dinner
Lucky the valve seat didn't work loose. When he said over heated that was my first thought. Well bent push rods, and hope the rest lives.
@@robertsmith2956 yeah, valve seats loosen if the head is overheated. Loose valve seats make a different sound when ground.
"It's pwobly got fecal waste all ovah it." I truly appreciate the amount of acting that goes into portraying little Johnnies character.
Little Johnnie's vocabulary is growing
I love the subtle "and FS you know what that stands for".😂
Your crazy good Taryl and I have learned so much watching your videos!
Don't ya just love those 5 minute jobs!?😂😂😂
Only Scotty Kilmer "Mr. Click Bait) can do it that quickly. He can R&R a timing belt in about 5min.
Taryl is pretty sharp 👌 I wish he lived as close as 200 miles near my home in Kentucky ? He would be the only mechanic working on my small engines. I'd like to hang around his shop for about year......Like they say....
What you learn is what ya know ? THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR VIDEOS
I know it seems like a lot of extra work but it takes about 15 minutes(or less) to pull that engine and makes it much easier to work on, also if not for a failed cooling fan or another self-inflicted issue the heads would never fail. the most common issues we have had with them are the coils, intake gaskets, and sticking choke shaft. they are a pretty good mower overall. I do have to agree that deere quality is not what it used to be.