The OGL and Me: What Will Happen Now?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ม.ค. 2023
- The Golden Age of the D&D Open Game License is ending. What does this mean for me and the third-party publishing community at large?
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This is kicking off to be a very exciting, explosive year of creativity, freedom, and disrupting traditions, and I am here for it.
That it is! Adversity forces growth!
Hi big fan of your stuff AJ glad to see Kelsey is a great creator.
I can't wait to see your work for Shadowdark.
Are you working on a fantasy Rpg system of your own by any chance? I swear I heard a rumor, read it technically.
Yeah this is nuts. Let’s face it most of the official D&D content hasn’t been that great for a while but many I know have stayed invested in large party because of the thriving community of third party content creators that flourished around D&D under the 20 year OGL. The draft license reads more like a desperate quarterly cash grab than a foundation for the continued growth of the brand or the community.
@@Tiyev an RPG yes
What an incredible and optimistic take on such a dark time for this hobby. Thank you. You have my Kickstarter dollar!
That means a lot to me, Mike. Thank you!!
#sameteam
And you have my axe! Crap, now I have to go out and get an axe.
I can’t wait to hype Shadowdark with all my cannons when it launches. ✊🏼🤓🔺
DT, you are the coolest.
Looking forward to the Kickstarter and seeing Shadowdark! Let us know if we can support any particular way, over and above what’s mentioned in the video.
I really feel like ShadowDark is safe for the most part. I was surprised to see the OGL at the end of the beta version- it didn’t seem like it pulled from copyrightable material at all as the mechanical aspects are safe. I hope you are able to get through the review process quickly and without too much cost. It’s a great game! And it ain’t D&D!
This is really the key thing... if section 102(b) of the Copyright Act is applied to tabletop rules the way it's been applied to video games, WotC and Hasbro have very little legal ground to stand on. I almost hope they go after Paizo so the obvious precedent can be set and people can stop worrying so much.
Heck, it makes me want to see someone call their bluff and pretty much make what Pathfinder 1e was but for 5e.
@@colbyboucher6391 This is one of the paths (pun intended) I see happening; someone will do to 5e what Paizo did you 3.5e. And you know what, 5e could do well from a solid pass of the rules and a vastly better layout than currently exists.
@@colbyboucher6391 You make it sound like Hasbro/WotC doesn't have more money to throw around than Paizo. If they went after Paizo, i would dare say that Paizo couldn't financially defend themselves.
@@frostmagemarii Finances only matter when a something is debatable enough for there to be a protracted court battle. If that happened in this case, I'd pretty much lose all faith that the U.S. legal system has even a weak pulse.
Ever since I came across what Hasbro/WotC were doing I immediately thought of you and the Arcane Library and the unfortunate impact it will have upon you and a ton of others. You do excellent work so stay strong and continue to be creative.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate hearing that you thought of me in this situation! I'm optimistic... I think there's a way forward. It will be challenging, but worth it.
I've always been a big supporter of third party content. Your work in particular, has helped many people with encounter design and solid game mechanics. All things that have promoted the game of D&D for WotC. It's a shame that they are going this route, but I am excited to see what new material you create in the new landscape of trpgs.
I think I said this on twitter too, but I'm really grateful that you're moving forward in this way! I'm starting up a new campaign with Shadowdark, and as someone who has been working on his own publishing ambitions for a bit over a year now, I'm really glad that I made the decision to transition to writing primarily for Shadowdark once I discovered it.
Super excited for the kickstarter and to see what comes next!
Kelsey, your work is brilliant and I'm really looking forward to Shadowdark RPG and supporting your work under your own OGL!
I am looking forward to learning more about Shadowdark.
I am on the notification for Shadowdark. I love that you are committing to a non-revocable OGL for your game. Going forward, I am unlikely to buy any game that does not have a non-revocable OGL attached to it. You might want to consider releasing the game as a paperback as well as hardback. Print on demand hardbacks are often not any better (and sometimes worse) than the paperbacks (and the paperbacks cost less for the consumer, thus making them more affordable).
Definitely going to be under consideration! The hardback is coming from an offset printing house, so hopefully the best quality I can get, but I want to explore other options for the book, too. Just gotta get the logistics sorted... which is now a bit delayed!
@@TheArcaneLibrary I understand. I wish you good luck!
The problem with putting non-revocable is that a licensee could practically break the terms of the OGL and "get away with it" because of the non-revocable verbiage. What you are intending to ask for is a clause which basically says that without cause the license cannot be terminated or revoked en masse. Which preserves the right to revoke on a case-by-case basis, for cause while protecting all other good faith actors.
@@pedroig8839 Yes! This is why I need a lawyer, hahahaha! Intent vs. execution have to line up.
She is using OPEN GAME LICENSE Version 1.0a, which is Wotc license. She can't just throw in the word "non-revocable" while using a) their license b) their intellectual property.
I think she needs a lawyer.
I am 100% ready for Shadowdark RPG! Your work is amazing and I can't wait to see what you do next!
Hope the community will keep supporting content creators. I want to get one of your 5e adventures now to support you. Usually dont run pre-written stuff but I'm sure I can find something worth playing :)
it's funny how this OGL drama has showed me so many more creators. Will be checking out your Kickstarters ❤️👌
Very excited and looking forward to seeing what Shadowdark is like. This is the future of tabletop gaming. We don't need WOTC or the OGL to make our fun. We never did and now people are soaring to new heights. May we all fly high.
I loved 2e in the 90s. My son got the 5e essentials kit for Xmas and it brought me back to the hobby, just in time to see all this. I was about to buy the three core D&D books (again) but now I feel liberated. 5e was too complicated for us anyway, so ICRPG is getting my money. Talented storytellers make the game great, so I just bought the Arcane Library complete collection. Hopefully there are many more out there that feel the same way. Keep up the great work and I wish you the best with all the changes you’re facing.
Thank you so much, Jan! And ICRPG is so close to my heart -- a fantastic game. I'm glad you're moving in that direction.
You are a talented writer and creator. Thank you for all you have given us. I hope you the best at landing solidly in your feet and moving forward.
I just stumbled upon your channel, thanks to TH-cam recommendations… I really love your attitude about all this and I agree completely. This is an exciting opportunity for a lot of creators to break free from 5e and really make something awesome that’s their own! And Shadowdark looks amazing! Love that artwork (and that cover!!!)… I’ll be looking forward to the Kickstarter. ⚔️🤓
Randomly finding this video has me subscribed to your notification for your RPG. I will definitely be backing it.
I love that you are creating your own true OGL.
I'd love to see lots of creators making broadly compatible content across OSR and similar games (like the top-notch adventures you already published for Shadowdark). We are seeing now that having a network or community of creators and games that are broadly compatible creates resiliency.
Sounds awesome! Letting out creativity is always good and letting others use your work to do that is commendable
I’m a DM of 40 years and I just signed up for notification of your Kickstarter. I can’t wait to see what you bring to the table.
WotC can rot. I have your Shadowdark primer and hope to run a group through your Scarlet Minotaur adventure soon. Will let you know what we think about it!
I've loved your work for quite a while now, and I can't wait to see where you go next. I'm completely on board and will be more than happy to follow you into Shadow dark
Happy to stumble across you and this video. I'll begin paying attention to Shadowdark.
I see this as a new Renaissance of our hobby. Much creativity and love to your new venture into Shadow Dark.
I didn't realize you were so close to finishing Shadowdark. The preview looked real good, so I'm looking forward to it a lot. You have my support for sure.
Can't wait to support the kickstarter!
Can't wait to support however I can. The content is awesome and you are great! Shadowdark will be incredible I'm sure!
I'll pick up the complete pdf bundle this weekend. You're doing great work I look forward to getting a copy of Shadowdark.
Basically just found this channel.
Really dig the adventure breakdowns
Great video - really clear and well stated. Totally on board for the Kickstarter in whatever form it takes.
Whatever is happening: all your adventures are top notch and every group I've ever played them with loved them!
Best of luck with your game, I believe it's going to be good because you've always published well written and fun adventures! Do not despair, the new OGL isn't out or set in stone yet, I bet you'll be able to safely publish content for it.
I am looking forward to your kickstarter and will for sure be backing you. Drive on!
I will continue supporting your work in whatever form, it is fantastic!
Thank you for your work on this topic. Many people have this same and shared appreciation. 😇
So many of us spent the last couple years making our own RPG stuff!
HUGE amount of respect for you and everything you're working towards!
secondeded
All best from Over Here
Kudos on getting the book done! Looking for forward to the KickStarter
Love this attitude, good luck with the journey to come!
I finally got into D&D a few months ago after years of half-knowing about it. While considering DMing, I came across and fell in love with your horror bundles and ran some one-shots with my friends. Going through the beta copy of Shadowdark I am truly reminded of good old dungeon crawlers as well as rougelikes, and it makes me want to run my own campaign for the first time. I'm absolutely looking forward to the kickstarter.
I can’t wait to do an actual play of Shadowdark!
Ran a bunch of your 5E stuff over the last few months and I really like it. Looking forward to the new stuff coming up and running it from you.
I am on board for Shadowdark. Love what we have seen so far!
Randomly saw your video n TH-cam. I am happy creators are making truly open content! I cannot wait to check out your system!
Really looking forward to your Kickstarter and its going to be something I very likely back. Best of luck to you and the denizens of the dark!
Looking forward for the Kickstarter!
And a lot of us cut our teeth on your work. Basilisk Temple has been a launch point for homebrews, Wizards published adventures and other 3rd party works on my home and virtual table. Can't wait for Shadowdark's Kickstarter and appreciate your positive spin on an industry rattling event.
Awesome to see you energize your creativity for RPGs and build your own system
just took the complete collection (just in case) ^^
kudos for the great work, hope the best for you
Thank you so much for your support! 🙏
Thanks for your 5e horror adventures. Good luck with your upcoming pursuits. 👏
I wish you luck in the coming competition out there there’s going to be a lot of innovation as everyone does something to stand out. I can’t wait to see what you come up with
Thanks for the update and I for one can't wait for the kickstarter to start.
I've tried my hand at RPG design - maybe it's time I released Valour Shield 2nd Edition ! Good luck with Shadowdark - I'll keep a lookout for it.
I'm Also creating my own RP Game & This will just give it a bigger chance to blow up, in our favour.
Shadowdark sounds so cool I will have to check it out. DND1's ogl broke my heart 😢
This hit me in the gut - I literally just started publishing content.
As someone that left the brand due to the license change during 4th, and only coming back to 5th because I thought they learned their lesson... I'm pretty sure that even if they walk this back (and try to offer a crap deal that's only marginally better) I'm still done with WOTC entirely. I don't need a fancy vtt. Owlbear is good enough for me. I let my players roll real dice anyway even online.
So I'm signed up for Shadowdark and here for it. It looks super neat. I'm looking forward to finding my next 'forever' system, and if's as good as it looks to be (from what I've seen already) then you'll already have this 3rd party creator ready to roll out an entire setting and string of one-shots and adventures.
I'm now supporting all the entrepreneurial creators I can find. I just stumbled upon your Arcane Library and subscribed. Looking forward the to update of Shadowdark and signed up for the notifications!
You're awesome. I use your adventures and my group always love them. Super excited for shadow dark.
Thank you so much! :)
You friggin ROCK! Thank you for moving forward.
Watching this after the close of the Shadowdark Kickstarter... I'm happy to know you'll be okay for the forseable future. :)
Looking forward to seeing the KS launch for Shadowdark! I plan on supporting as much non-OGL content as possible in the next year to support those independent creators who have worked so hard on their projects.
Taking the opportunity to spread out and learn more about other TTRPG publishers. Subbed and paying attention, thank you for your efforts
Thank you so much! Very glad to have you here! :)
I have been a fan of your content since I ran secrets of the skyhorn lighthouse a few years ago. I have no doubt that you will continue to create fantastic content and I can't wait to see what you have in store for us in the future!
Can't wait to see what you come up with! Exciting Times!
Watching this again (a year later) and, of course, everything clearly did work out well, but more importantly, this video is a Master Class in how to handle unexpected, unprovoked and unfair adversity with grace, poise, focus, self belief and a legendary work ethic. Kelsey, I don't just love your Shadowdark RPG, I also love & respect your moxy and general approach to Hard Times. Thank you.
Thank you, Todd! That means the world to me! :)
I'm very glad that these changes happened before you published your book. Looking forward to hearing more about your game system. Thank you sharing your thoughts on this subject.
I got extremely lucky in that regard!
I saw it coming and started working on my own system for many years. Mine is coming soon as well. I will definitely check out yours now that I followed your FB page and know about this project.
Kelsey! I was a player in one of your Gary Con games. I absolutely love your content and can't wait to see what Shadowdark Rpg has in store! Keep it up!
I remember that! :D Thanks so much, Nick. Grateful to have you in my corner.
Best of luck with your new creative direction. Looking forward to checking out Shadowdark.
Good on you! Signed up on your site last night.
I'm looking forward to your Shadowdark RPG. I just came across your channel to you. Even I have considered writing my own RPG game using D&D.. but I wanted to incorporate old school rules. So Now I'm kinda scratching my head. Considering another system. Just not sure which. But maybe Tri-stat, AGE, or another one.. Good luck in your ventures from here!
Signed up for the kickstarter and will definitely support your work.
Great positive approach and exciting about the new system.
You are an absolute champion! What an amazing positive attitude when facing adversity.
Unfortunately no one in 2000 would of fathomed where we are in terms of technology, ease of self-publishing, or the reach of social media and all the other tech advancements that have affected our hobby (and many other things in life). I wish you the best on Shadowdark RPG, looking forward to see in it. Think of this as an opportunity to burst into new directions of creativity in our RPG hobby.
I'm definitely trying to look at it through this lens. It's a devastating blow in the short term, but it might also end up being the best thing that could have happened in the long haul.
@@TheArcaneLibrary Having been through similar things in other industry I am very confident this will end up a very good thing for you. We're all looking forward to what you produce and have had a great time with the previews of shadow dart
June sayd "Unfortunately no one in 2000 would of fathomed where we are in terms of technology, ease of self-publishing, or the reach of social media."
This is incorrect. I worked at one of the major media companies, and as early as 1996, people were discussing all that and more. There was talk about home servers that would upload vast music and movie collections, there was talk of online boards and communities, there was talk about home to home video calls (all the way back to the 1905s), there was talk about virutal games and VR.
This was all discussed. I had discussions with company heads in Japan and the USA about this.
I wrote several patents for them about this and other technologies, including early VR. There were SciFi stories and Anime about this, all considered predictive. Myself and others were asked "Is this possible? " and the answer was yes.
It is one thing to imagine common people on the street didn't know this, it is incorrect that top media companies in the 1990s didn't know this or think about it.
*Everyone in top positions knew and were talking about this as the inevitable future.*
@@antimatters6283 I should have said the mainstream common folk, lol. But since you were a technologist/inventor/innovator at that time I'm sure you and others had that foresight, but for the rest of us normies its wasnt in the convo at the time.
Um.........everyone in 2000 knew where technology was going
Waiting for the kickstarter, seems to be a great rpg that I would play! Thanks for the content over the years
I'm very excited for you and for Shadowdark. I'll be watching and rooting for you.
I whole heartedly support the creators and it seems this is going to be a good thing for the hobby and eventually individual creators.
Best of luck to you I'll check out your RPG.
great attitude in the midst of all of this. have ran a few of your one shots. love your combat cards. keep up the good work!
Thank you, Dustin!
I started watching your content back when I started as a content creator with Kelfecil's Tales about 2 years ago and I have loved your content so, so much. It has inspired me, pushed me forward and even your TH-cam channel has pushed me to start my own too. Your reaction to the OGL is by far the most relaxed, pragmatic and organized without all the panic (which in some cases is very justified). I absolutely appreciate all of that, this video and everything you do.
I never liked D&D the most but like many other creators, I published 5E content because it allows you to have this very easy and strong marketing that goes with the stamp. I was actually super excited to have a good reason to pivot out of it since a lot of the audience will see what WotC is doing and will want to support creators who are moving away from it.
I am really looking forward to what you will be putting up and who knows, maybe I will end up using the system you are putting up as a creator too. I already find your enthusiasm and excitement for it infectious and I cannot wait to see what is coming.
Kelfecil, this really got me in the heart! I am so glad to know I've been able to offer advice and community to you as you also go the road of being an indie publisher. It's a tricky time right now, but we're at the worst part of it, which is when we don't yet know much and we don't yet have clarity. Things will shift for the better as the community organizes itself, and we'll all be here for it. Options will emerge. Thank you for your support, and keep going with your own projects!
I feel very fortunate that my own product is still early enough in development that I can easily pivot away from all things WotC, D&D, and OGL. Your idea of creating your own version of an open gaming license is terrific! Fingers crossed, and from one game developer to another, I wish you the best of luck.
I wish you all the best Kelsey, and will obviously continue to support you in any/every way possible.
In a way, considering I abandoned 5e in order to return to my AD&D roots about a year ago, this will actually make it easier for me to continue that support as the "basic" to AD&D conversion is a lot easier than trying to convert 5e to AD&D. :)
I can feel your pain... I´m about 70% done with my own material and I had to stop and make the decision to turn it on a system-agnostic book with small PDFs available online for the small amout of system-specific rules that it might need. Now, having to change a finished book, that´s gotta hurt.
It sucks SOOOO much. I'm really sorry you got hit with that. I'm trying to be like... well... at least this happened before we published? That way we have a chance to change course before it's too late.
Just signed up for the kickstarter notifications. Looking forward to it!
Looking forward to the Shadowdark kickstarter!
I'm really excited for the full release of Shadowdark. In the absence of a credit card, I won't be able to participate in the Kickstarter, but I hope for a quick release outside of Kickstarter (at least for the PDF's) so I can get started :-) Keep up the good Work 👍
The optimism of this message is very refreshing. Actually makes me excited for future of the community, thanks!
Thank you! I'm excited, too. We have no way to go but forward!
Beautiful art for Shadowdark! I really hope it succeeds!
I finally got to check out the Shadowdark playtest and my socks 🧦 were knocked off!!! Can’t wait for the final book!
As a long time D&D player since Basic in the early 80s, I'm here to support you and every other open system soon to be coming.
I wish you the best luck possible! Will check out your shadow dark!
Hoo-yeah! Thank you for taking a stand!
I love running the adventure you wrote for D&D and I will be backing Shadowdark. Can't wait to see what the future holds. :)
Well, I am just about finished with a book myself, just need to either commission 2 more pieces of artwork or do it myself. This was worrisome as I’ve been working on this for a few years. But I think since my book is mostly for 1E, not 5E (though easily converted) I may not have a problem. I’m dropping my OGL page. Good luck with your book!!
Good luck on yours, too! I hope we can both get our work out with as little trouble as possible!
Thank you for this video and good luck with your project!
I have just suscribed to your channel, so I will check out the rest of your content.
Big business - always a force for innovation and making things better!
Interesante vídeo, gracias. Un saludo 🎲
Gracias, Nigrum. Saludos!
I am looking forward to this. I am going to be proud to back this when it goes to Kickstarter.
Thank you so much, Richard! I hope I can continue to make you proud with it.
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I have been waiting to buy your game until the physical copy is out. Can't wait to get my hands on it.