Using 2-Ply Tom Reso Heads for Depth and Punch | Season 2 - Episode 10

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    There’s a lot of conversation out there about the concept of using two-ply resonant heads on your toms, yet not a lot of thorough demonstration. As we’ve received more than a few requests to cover this topic recently, we decided to dive right in!
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  • @Chiroman527
    @Chiroman527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Cory, typical great Video. I'm only a 69 YO, Recreational Drummer (if you can call it That !!), who plays drums to My Music for retirement fun. I really like the way you present the various ways to tune this Instrument. I started playing in 1966, with HS buddies, all Learning their instruments in a Garage Band for 3 years. Then in 1969, we went separate ways, and I abandoned playing UNTIL 2019. 50 Years later, my wife of 45 years overheard me mentioning that I may go to a local Music Studio to beat on the Drums for reminiscing Fun. She gifted me a Cheapo Kit _ Gammon - for Xmas 2018. I gave that Kit to my 4 year old Grandson a few months ago, and purchased a PDP Concept Maple 6 piece Kit - USED 3 months ago. I changed the Batter heads to Evans G2s , using the single ply Reso heads (the stock heads which are PDP made by Remo). Now seeing this, I am going to try 2 Play Clear Reso Heads ... Would the G2s Clear serve that purpose? THX for the Info.

    • @richardhingle3634
      @richardhingle3634 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes G2's or Evan's EC resos should do you well. I have an 8 PC PDP totally customized with S hoops and all Evan's heads and they sound just as good as any other competitor brand.

    • @Chiroman527
      @Chiroman527 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardhingle3634 Hey Richard, although I posted this a Year ago (My God, a year ago), I haven't tried this Reso head on my kit yet. Now, I'm using EC2s Batter heads on my 3 Rack Toms (8,10 & 12), and G2s coated on my 2 Floor Toms (14 & 16 inch). I am using Evans E-Rings on all but the 8" Tom. Drum Tuning is an acquired ART. In addition for the Maple Snare 14 X 5.5 with the PdP Concept Maple kit, I installed a HD dry batter head - cranked up high. I also have a DW Series Nickel over Brass 14 X 6.5 Snare also purchased USED. When that was delivered via Reverb form a previous owner - it came with a HD Dry head. It played very well out of the delivery box! It too ws Cranked up. But here's a "weird" thing. After I replaced the HD dry Head on the DW a few weeks ago, I could not attain that same sound. Last week, after tryin g to tweak that snare, I placed it atop of my 16" Floor Tom to get it out of the way. I played the Pdp Maple snare for this particular session (I play about 1 hour a day to My Music for Recreation in Retirement). During a Fill, I hit the DW snare - BINGO - That was Ludwig Supraphonic sound , the John Bonham sound I was looking to get! Take the Dwff the Tom and it was totally different! Same with the Pdp snare - it improved the sound. Forum Posters told me that I was actually Playing 2 Drums in this manner! Another poster jokingly said that I may have Invented a New Style Snare Stand!! I just ordered a UV 2 Batter head which I will try today (I hope). A UV 1 was returned - I didn't like it on the Maple Snare at all. The sound that Cody and many others have from their Snares have been elusive to me thus far. What I realized recently, watching some drum Tuning videos on another channel, was the vast effects of EQing and Miking of drums have on the sound you hear !! PS...after tweaking and re-installing the HD dry head , the reso head and the wires on the Maple Snare, I did achieve a better sound , BUT now I get lots of Snare Buzz :):)

    • @Mark-dr5xi
      @Mark-dr5xi ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds almost like my story and life-recreational fun for me.

  • @danieloneill5648
    @danieloneill5648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I use double ply on bottom and it “cleans up” the toms a bit, it’s like having a bit of muffling without the muffling,love it😁

    • @therager4401
      @therager4401 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Awesome that's what I'm after. Gonna try it tonight!

    • @WildySouza
      @WildySouza 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wow! Let's try this!!

  • @offbeatdrumcompany2568
    @offbeatdrumcompany2568 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Every time I listen to your videos they sound great. Very rarely do these comparison series result in a sound that I don't like or couldn't imagine a use for. A well tuned drum is just so versatile!

    • @123LarsUlrich
      @123LarsUlrich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Possible the point of the video

  • @that-avr-drummer
    @that-avr-drummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    My preferred combo, and the one that I get the most compliments from sound engineers and fellow drummers by the way, is either coated emperor batter with coated emperor resonate, or Evans equivalent G2 coated batter and G2 coated resonate....doesn't matter the brand, same compliments

    • @ShawnxEdge
      @ShawnxEdge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mgdrummer78 it’s a good combo of you have hate rings, moon gel and gaf tape on your heads like do for the same effect.

    • @caseyfenton90
      @caseyfenton90 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coated 2 ply on top and bottom? Can you get any tone?

    • @that-avr-drummer
      @that-avr-drummer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@caseyfenton90 I don't use that combo anymore, but yes plenty of tone, just alleviated any need for moon gels or cotton balls and what not

    • @pass-my-test
      @pass-my-test 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's the way I'm thinking of going.

    • @that-avr-drummer
      @that-avr-drummer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@pass-my-test currently on my Ludwig Classic Maples I'm using coated vintage emperors on top and clear ambassadors on bottom. I never need any dampening with this combo!

  • @remygaron8311
    @remygaron8311 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I used them on 14-16-18-20 inch floor toms love it🥁🥁🥁👏👏👏👏🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦

  • @MikeLuke
    @MikeLuke 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think Benny Greb uses a 2-ply coated on the reso head on his Sonor SQ2 to achieve that warm and fat sound. Great video, great channel! Subscribed. 😎
    Edit: Just saw your video about coated reso heads in which you exactly mentioned that ;)

  • @DirtyJobsGuy1
    @DirtyJobsGuy1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I’ve never used 2 ply on the reso side, but I’m going to consider it in the future.

  • @ThomasEwertsen
    @ThomasEwertsen ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ihave Remo pinstripe clear heads on both sides of my toms, and Ithink the drums sound great: a lot of ressonance since the heads resonate (sic) and a clear, clean tone. I love the sound!! 👌🏻👌🏻😊

  • @Dg-wd8ci
    @Dg-wd8ci 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awsome channel learned more in 2 days about drums than any time I have spent reading

  • @edbarguiarena8916
    @edbarguiarena8916 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are doing some great stuff!!
    This drum head/tuning topic is something that drummers are ALWAYS thinking about and testing. I have vintage drums-1962 Ludwig Downbeat, mahogany shells-that are shorter than what you have here. I've been searching for a sound that is low and fairly short without doing too much extra dampening. Here's what I found that works for my drums.
    HEADS: Batter - 2 ply coated heads (7.5 mil, 3mil), Reso - 1 ply coated (10mil).
    TUNING: low tension but with enough rebound to be playable.
    BATTER TO RESO HEAD RELATIONSHIP: Rack Toms, reso head approx. 1/2 step below the batter head. Floor Toms, reso head approx 1-step above the batter head.
    Basically, I'm trying to avoid the classic "dip tone" you get when the reso head is tuned 1 1/2 steps higher than the batter. I want a fairly straight tone. I'm guessing that the depth of the drums (rack vs. floors) is why the batter to reso head relationship is different.
    My drums are resonant but because the are tuned low, and both sides have coated heads, the overtones are lower and the decay gets absorbed by other sounds and instruments.
    Give it a try.

  • @DrRusty5
    @DrRusty5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been wondering about this recently, so this is brilliant.

  • @aushturm
    @aushturm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I tried that some month ago, with ages old pinstripe batters and old G2 as resos (10'', 12'', 14''). I must say, I brought my pearl forum never as punchy and deep as with this. Sounded absolutely fantastic! I also used an old snare head as batter on the floortom for a while, which makes the drum realy dry and deep, which often time is exactly what you want, especially live.

  • @thundermolloy
    @thundermolloy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I have done this with evans hydraulic clears on top and bottom. If you tune them up a bit you get a really intereating sound, kinda a gated reverb fusion sound. Tune the batter down and you can get a very unique tone heavy but very short sound. Try it, it works great close miked

    • @halseyballistic
      @halseyballistic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indeed, I used the Black Hydraulics on the reso side for over 20 years in my metal bands. Always sounds tight and killer!

    • @IAmInfinitus208
      @IAmInfinitus208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds almost identical to Neil Peart's method during the late 70's to the early 90's, except the top wasn't really a Hydraulic but rather an early 2-ply that's no longer in production called Looking Glass heads/Heavy Duty Rock which is pretty much the basis for G2's except the rings were sort of resin-like flesh to them and drumhead productions weren't technically that precise yet until recently with better technologies.

  • @Videditor1067
    @Videditor1067 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have had success using an Evans EC batter head as a reso on my 16" floor tom. Helps control the overtones. Especially in the live, close mic setup.

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ambassador on top and emporia coated on the bottom. Favourite setup also put a moon gel inside the floor toms on the bottom Tom lol

  • @nevingrid2906
    @nevingrid2906 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I use pinstripes top and bottom. I got the idea from Chad Wakerman. He used this set up when touring with Frank Zappa in the early 80s. Like me he had deep toms and this set up enables control of overtones. If you take your time you can tune them so they don't sound 'dead'.

    • @friedpickles342
      @friedpickles342 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stripes are pretty inexpensive too.

    • @PaulMarangoni
      @PaulMarangoni 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chad was actually using Coated Ambassador batters over Clear Pinstripes back then. However, Steve Smith used Clear Pinstripes top and bottom for a while with Vital Information.

  • @jacopovigano1356
    @jacopovigano1356 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Always used 2 ply as reso head. I actually have ec2s on top and bottom of every tom and they sound beautiful! (thanks to 66samus)

    • @cor3ylee
      @cor3ylee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is there a video of this setup?

  • @icemandrummeth7420
    @icemandrummeth7420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been using Evans hydraulics top and bottom for years, perfect sound, stays in tune, easy to tune, very durable.

    • @geoffreyjouas544
      @geoffreyjouas544 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the hydraulic head affect your tuning method for the resonant head?

  • @robertlucas9867
    @robertlucas9867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Years ago I heard a kit with Evans EC2 on both sides and it punched and was low, controlled and loud. But it was in Guitar Center (closed environment) so I wasn’t able to hear it in a live situation with a band. I definitely was impressed still.

  • @secondsbeforelanding
    @secondsbeforelanding 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another well done video. Cant wait to see what you have planned for next week.

  • @Burton_69Drums
    @Burton_69Drums ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've used 2 ply on the bottom of mine for years and it shocked me that so many drummers I know and have talked to that have never tried it. I always felt it cut out some of the higher overtones that single ply resonant heads had, especially on floor toms. Also, when the batter head would wear out I could just rotate the reso to the batter side and a spare single ply I"d have laying around to the bottom for a temporary, quick fix.

  • @tomasmadlenak3396
    @tomasmadlenak3396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i do use evans G2 bottom, never been more satisfied with the sound of the drums. period.

  • @michaeleagle2
    @michaeleagle2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    black Emperor suede's batter / black ebony Reso's added amazing depth and warmth to the Mapex Amory Fast toms - Love it. My toms sound like your first setup... Friggen awesome sound!!! I basically did the same thing you did, then tuned down the batters to bring the tone back to something a bit darker... Good stuff man.. 2 Ply for life!!

  • @yoashuain1
    @yoashuain1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use Emperor heads on both sides. Very punchy and articulated.😁😎

    • @yoashuain1
      @yoashuain1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Natural compression is better for the engineer and for articulation of guitars and keys.😎

  • @indigos290
    @indigos290 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'll be trying the Evans G2 clear as reso and G1 coated as batter.

  • @sharkzf6
    @sharkzf6 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the 2-ply for my practice kit in close quarters! Thanks! 😎

  • @soundknight
    @soundknight 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lovely drum finish

  • @pearldrummer7217
    @pearldrummer7217 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Been doing it for years on Session Customs. Glad to finally see a video on it.

  • @ickysticky3672
    @ickysticky3672 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What I use the most is 2 ply top, 1 ply bottom, both coated. Almost always Emperor tops and Ambassador bottoms. I believe Neil Peart used to use 2 ply clear tops and bottoms, most notably Evans hydraulics for reso heads way back in the day.

    • @robertcozart
      @robertcozart 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He has always had a nice drum sound. Simon Phillips has always had a nice sound too

    • @MatthewClise
      @MatthewClise 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Around the Moving Pictures era, I'm pretty sure he was using Evans looking glass on top (which I understand are similar to a G2 but with some type of flexible collar?) And blue hydraulics on the bottom. I'm fairly certain that he would tune the top and bottom heads to the same pitch. I imagine this would make the heads resonate together for a brief moment, creating a beautiful note, and then the increased mass/ oil of the head would shorten the sustain, giving a bit more of an articulate sound. I want to try this for myself to find out.

    • @IAmInfinitus208
      @IAmInfinitus208 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MatthewClise Would like to see a comparison video between a 2 ply on batter and 1 ply on bottom against 2 plys on both!

  • @jerrygamez5723
    @jerrygamez5723 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for the video.

  • @adamwasthefirstman
    @adamwasthefirstman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another awesome video!! I think I could use this setup in a rock situation with a really heavy hitter.

  • @Mystninja
    @Mystninja 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    That's how I set up. G2 coated top and G2 clear bottom

    • @edubatera72
      @edubatera72 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mystninja me too...i have the UV2 on top now...

    • @caseyfenton90
      @caseyfenton90 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you tried the opposite way, with the coated on bottom?

    • @Mystninja
      @Mystninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@caseyfenton90 nope. But I've heard G1 coated bottom and G2 coated top. It's ok. Very warm and dry sound.

  • @terryweiss6069
    @terryweiss6069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    hi cody.have played drums 49 years now.great exspearament!i tryed 2 ply resos 1 time decades ago.found they only worked in very resonant live rooms and unmiked.controled sound.for me useing a single ply reso i can make the drum sustain longer or shorter by tensioning the bottom up or down.thats the way i was taught.2 ply resos can sound great but mostly need to be miked to carry out to the crowd.even unmiked a single ply will carry more than a 2 ply reso.great job cody!all the best to you drum brother!

  • @cutitshaveit
    @cutitshaveit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir .always a pleasure listening to someone like yourself that really knows and goes to precise explanations on how things work. Thanknyou. I tried this 2 ply remo color heads on a dw acrylic .they sound amazing very powerful. But yes the projection is loss. Like you said the throw out there. But they sound great

  • @brianchisnell1548
    @brianchisnell1548 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I change heads once in awhile to experiment but for non mic'd situations, I always end up amb. top, (coated or clear) and Amb. Clear bottoms. 3 ply Ludwigs. I do love Fiberskins Amb. Top and bottom on my old Slings 3ply. I'm not a heavy hitter though.

  • @el_tomato
    @el_tomato 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Incredible how you guys are improving the quality! Thank you for the really good work!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! We appreciate it. -Ben

  • @martinofumagall
    @martinofumagall 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2 ply reso guy since ever!

  • @joerico9461
    @joerico9461 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video thanks for your time

  • @EdenPorterMusic
    @EdenPorterMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just since you were curious about thicker single-ply heads, I tried a graduated set on my stave kit when I originally got it - G1/reso glass on 10", G12/reso glass on 12", and G14/G12 on 15". I recall the lower two working pretty ok but the gradation was a bit too severe to really work. Probably in a 5-tom scenario it would make sense. But, the G12 reso/G14 batter was super meaty if you're hitting hard. I think the two-ply heads might be a better solution for hard hitters though, since they're probably going to muffle the toms anyways.

  • @johngiummarra8983
    @johngiummarra8983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome job guys, very nicely done! I realize you are sponsored by Evans but I'd love to see a session featuring cs blackdot heads on the top and bottom of the toms. Or the Evans equivalent? Keep up the excellent work, cheers!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey John! Thanks for the kind words. We're not actually sponsored by Evans, they just provide drumheads for our Tuesday tutorials. We hope to do some comparisons with other drumheads outside of the Evans lineup in the future. Cheers!

  • @JasonElectron
    @JasonElectron 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use Emperor coated 2ply for the batters, no resos (accept snare of course) - loving it.

  • @DaPhunk73
    @DaPhunk73 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! I agree with everything, I have used 2 ply resos on floortoms. You do get some more low end, and less sustain, but you loose volume and projection. So it is a tradeoff. But, as you say, works great with close mics.

    • @superchanneljim
      @superchanneljim 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im thinking about it as my 14 beech floor tom sustains waaaay too much. I have a clear ambassador on bottom and coated pins on top. Im gonna tune the bottom a bot lower first though and see whats good.

    • @isihernandez9752
      @isihernandez9752 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have you tried used a 2 ply reso and a 1 ply batter...?

  • @paulbolin7513
    @paulbolin7513 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A 2ply head as a reso stays in tune longer as well. The main benefit is a deeper and fuller sound.

  • @altebo
    @altebo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for sharing,
    very insightful!

  • @georgebaggy
    @georgebaggy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What about 14 mil single ply heads as resos? X14 and G14

  • @andwhatshouldbe
    @andwhatshouldbe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have Aquarian Super 2's on the bottom of my toms (with Emperors on top) and it helps get that juicy throaty deep end sound that I like. They're tuned within a quarter turn of just over wrinkle. I have a 10 12 14 kit in jazz sizes and they sound like power toms! Thanks for this video!

    • @steviemac2377
      @steviemac2377 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably helps that the Super 2's are a tad thinner than normal 2 plys I'd imagine

  • @brentdrapesa2397
    @brentdrapesa2397 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about G12’s for the batters and resos? Just an idea

  • @mariog2366
    @mariog2366 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you guys make a video putting different snare side heads on the reso side of tom's?

  • @JamesDavisIV
    @JamesDavisIV ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve done coated ambassador x’s on tom resos. Wasn’t crazy about it, still had to do a good deal of moongel muffling to both batter and reso.

  • @ffrjegs08
    @ffrjegs08 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've always been curious about that sort of setup, thanks for letting me finally hear it :D so when are you guys gonna get with guitar center and do a clinic tour? lololol

  • @rebecaperalta5863
    @rebecaperalta5863 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video

  • @hairyd61
    @hairyd61 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has the single ply batter/double ply reso ever been tried? Have you guys ever done it?

  • @paulmietty7643
    @paulmietty7643 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have had good results using black suede reso heads on my Tama Swingsta. I use G2s as batters.

  • @ImmerGruenMusik
    @ImmerGruenMusik 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video. Very informativ. Can you tell me the basic sticking during the groove in the middle of the video (while tuning).

  • @FPSLibrarian
    @FPSLibrarian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Big fan of 2ply coated/2ply coated on my floor toms. Makes them tasty!

  • @HHGdrums
    @HHGdrums 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this content!

  • @samuelperkins1307
    @samuelperkins1307 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a worship drummer, and for any worship context where there are mics, 2 ply heads top and bottom are a must. Of course that's all subjective, but 99% of worship songs call for deep and fat drum sounds. I also personally like the feel of 2 ply over 2 ply better than a combo set up. If you want thunderous mid-low end beefy drums, go 2 ply over 2 ply. The heads also last longer.

  • @AlmostReady504
    @AlmostReady504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They sound great!
    THAT'S the ELUSIVE sound I'm after on set of Gretsch from the 80s.
    (The shells are slightly longer almost "power toms")
    I've used different muffling techniques and I'm left with heads so completely unresponsive or they ring their ass off
    ( more like I'd want on a jazz gig)
    I'm going for a sort of 70s "thud" for the type (rock) band it is.
    I have a strictly cosmetic black bottom head on the lone rack tom... could that be the culprit?
    I know over the years I've unsuccessfully used these 2-ply heads. I may go back to them after watching this. Any other suggestions?
    ....and thank you.
    Love your work and this channel

  • @benjifigueroa9737
    @benjifigueroa9737 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't use 2 ply on the reso side of my toms but, I still like having a bit more mass than the standard tom. All my standard size birchwood toms have 1 ply of a 10 mil black film combined to 2-ply batter heads. I like the low 'fundamental' I can get out of them. I find this combination to not have as much damping effect as both heads being two-ply. It's all about combinations. Too much will allways be too much.

  • @pearldrummer4456
    @pearldrummer4456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Been doing it for years

  • @weeschwee
    @weeschwee 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, but I would have loved to see a comparison of the single vs two ply back to back.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! We’re going to reserve more of the comparison-style videos for a separate series that will go in depth on the sonic differences whereas the tutorials will cover more of the “how to” and application aspect of certain things. Cheers! -Ben

    • @weeschwee
      @weeschwee 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoundsLikeADrum sounds great!

  • @therager4401
    @therager4401 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got pinstripes on batters but with stock resos. Got a couple of Evans G2 coated heads spare thought I might try them instead of the stock resos combined w pinstripes on the batters. Currently the toms sound great but ring for days so would this help get them more punchy?

  • @ashleywildschut1330
    @ashleywildschut1330 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you make a video were you use studio rings that's trimmed and placed on the inside of a single layer skin on the reso side

  • @waterdrinker8554
    @waterdrinker8554 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think I’d get the same result(the first tuning/sound you did in the video)with a 16 in evans hydraulic glass Tom head and a 2 ply reso head?
    Then

  • @AlmostReady504
    @AlmostReady504 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The FIRST tuning. Are the heads really wide open. No muffling??
    That's the sound I'm looking for

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yup there’s no muffling whatsoever! -Cody

  • @queenpurple8433
    @queenpurple8433 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the sound of 2 ply batter+reso combo but don’t like the volume loss. Literally bought a vista lite kit to solve that problem lol

  • @DrGray_Drummer
    @DrGray_Drummer 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like how they sound with the 2 ply reso, and the higher batter tuning. It reminds me of a Bubinga kit, although Bubinga projects much better, along with a different kind of punch/tone. Pretty cool nevertheless

  • @bishopoftroy
    @bishopoftroy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It`s simple, energy in - energy out. If you tune the heads higher, less energy will be absorbed by the head therefore more of the drum will resonate. Conversely, lower tuning makes the head act like a damper but it moves more air, so a lower pitch, more head tone, less drum tone. A 2 ply reso head means more shell tone while retaining a lower potential tuning. For larger venues where the drum tone is coming through the speakers this will probably make no difference.

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've used the black Aquarian heads on the bottom of my toms for about 20 years to get more depth and punch without adding a second ply.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! But in 20 years of playing you haven’t tried any alternatives?

  • @andrem5843
    @andrem5843 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. Any chance you can do one with a coated G2 reso with a Evan's hydraulic batter?
    I've been thinking about doing this on my Sonor kit but not sure how they will sound.

  • @rockdrummer80
    @rockdrummer80 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    imo the lower tuning def sounded better to me. I think the higher tuning kinda started to choke the toms, esp. the rack tom. I feel that every drum has a sweet spot when it comes to tuning. People might expect a certain size drum should be at certain tuning when in fact a higher or lower tuning that doesn't seem correct for that particular size drum might not seem "acceptable" , but turns out to compliment the rest of the kit. Just my thought.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re on to something - drums have best ranges and heads/head combinations do too. -Cody

  • @Ms.GreenJeans
    @Ms.GreenJeans 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any suggestions for floor tom to not have that slight resonating that goes up a bit in pitch.

  • @ralphbenites1819
    @ralphbenites1819 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve use 1ply on the bottom came with the kit & 2ply pinstripes remo’s

  • @colevasseur9340
    @colevasseur9340 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and educational. As a young drum fanatic these are SO helpful!! Keep it up, plz!

  • @sega.milkis
    @sega.milkis 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice one!!! Been curious for a long time)) please, do a video on SNARE WEIGHTS and bass drum tunneling) Cheers)

  • @trashteeth
    @trashteeth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    transitioning from live situations to recording, i've found this incredibly helpful - gives me a lot of control in the studio and has cut my mixing/metering/processing time nearly in half.

  • @pass-my-test
    @pass-my-test 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What do you get if you use coated top and bottom? Is it more controlled? Easier/harder to tune?

  • @josephmiddleton4422
    @josephmiddleton4422 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using Remo vintage emperor for batter side and Remo ambassador for reso side for years. I truly love that combo no muffling, wide open. I've used this combo on all my kits, through many different genres of music. Lately I've joined a group and I want a punchy with low end Tom sound. I've been thinking of going with Evan's EC2 SST Clear for both sides and was wondering what your opinion would be on that idea?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d recommend starting with just the batters as EC2S and see what can be done from there with tuning. If all signs point to the need for a 2-ply reso, you can go with the EC2S though I think I’d be more likely to go with good old G2 clears. Cheers! -Ben

  • @chrismanzella99
    @chrismanzella99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just built a kit from scratch... many said go 1 ply, i was thinking 2 ply, does 2 ply really help low end? i have everything mic'd

  • @PatrickWitherow
    @PatrickWitherow 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:05 Is that a Brady block snare with the lightbulb sitting on it?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a Red Rock Drums 13x6.5" Fijian Mahogany stave snare

    • @PatrickWitherow
      @PatrickWitherow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Very nice! I love my Brady's. I hear Red Rock makes some nice sounding stave snares.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They do some fine work! Roger and Mat are an excellent team.

  • @phpimusique9373
    @phpimusique9373 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    super cool =)

  • @MrPistons4life
    @MrPistons4life 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Need advice on best sounding evans heads on acrylic DW kit sizes 8-12 inch toms, I already have an idea for the 14 inch floor tom. I'm going with the UVEmads on the 16 and 22 kick.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s very personal preference but my choice would be clear G2 batters and G1 reso. I love the big sound of acrylics and 2-ply works for me on them. -Cody

    • @Rifle56
      @Rifle56 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoundsLikeADrum I play acrylic DWs too Cody.... currently with EC2 frosted batters and the factory resos still on the toms.
      My question.... I prefer a shorter sustain than I am getting right now, will hydraulics on the reso side address that as previously stated in the comments? Thanks!

  • @adityagaur1019
    @adityagaur1019 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we put a 2 ply on a 10 inch tom as batter head and single ply on 12 & 16.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you want to though I’m not entirely sure what the point would be. Still, if it works for you- go for it!

    • @adityagaur1019
      @adityagaur1019 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Thanks for your response. I wanted some bass in it's sound. I thought would create some matching sound with the 12 & 14. I am quite new to drumming, only last month bought Yamaha Rydeen. I have seen many of your videos, you change heads for all toms say, G2 or coated etc.

  • @richardedupre2018
    @richardedupre2018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having a hard time getting the sound I’m looking for from my new Ludwig Classic Maple kit. Big 14x12 tom, 16x16, 18x16. Coated Emperor on top, Clear diplomats on the bottom. I do like the Bonham sound & I play classic rock. Tuning tight seems to sound the best

    • @andrewhuff9294
      @andrewhuff9294 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bonzo played with coated Emperor on the top and bottom with his maple kits if I’m not mistaken.

  • @xenprovence6126
    @xenprovence6126 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, did you know this video is in MONO only? It's fun to watch your videos in my studio and to listen critically for the differences in sound but on my barefoot micromain monitors I miss the stereo!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We capture everything in mono. Most of the time we’re only using a single microphone (AKG C414) but even when we do multi mic episodes we’re still keeping everything mixed down the center.

  • @clayfoster8234
    @clayfoster8234 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It strikes me as a very vintage sound that would be good for jazz, bebop, swing, maybe even 70’s arena rock but not so good for rock, pop, R&B and modern genres

  • @Barteque9
    @Barteque9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is using thick silngle ply head on a bottom will give me that fatness and less projection?
    I play in a church, closemiced and acoustics are bad

  • @blakedmc1989HD
    @blakedmc1989HD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi there! i have a Pearl Session Custom SMX (discontuned in 2009) i've had since 2006 and i've always had Evans G2 Clears on them well which was long before they introduced 360 in all of their heads, and i was wondering how a 2-ply would work on reso situations as apposed to single ply resos which i still have stock reso heads on tha bottom, i was wondering is it smarter to go for newer G2s with tha 360 for batter and G1s for resos for my model of Pearl or should i just go G2 on both sides and be done?
    btw i prefer clear because i had a bad history with coted being worse overtime when coted fades away and it sounds way worse than a clear batter overtime
    thanks for tha demonstration

  • @Dannys.channel
    @Dannys.channel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Live all I care about is being loud enough to sound good through mics because they put you in front of house speakers and you don’t have to play as hard

  • @KevinSmith-xq2hp
    @KevinSmith-xq2hp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven't checked out your videos, but do you use anything other than coated head on the batters?

  • @naeemgrant5897
    @naeemgrant5897 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Recently I got a Mapex Armory 6.5 x 14 , birch/maple snare that came stock with the typical ambassador combo. Messed around with it for like a week after that til I finally decided that cranked is how I liked it. Then I completely loosened all the the tension rods and left it like that for about a week in an effort to "preserve the heads". They still seemed to be in good condition...didn't notice any dents or a dip in the middle. However when I finally attempted to tune it back up it sounded very dead...with an excessive amount of overtones. Do you have any idea what could've caused that?

    • @emilienfalcimaigne8065
      @emilienfalcimaigne8065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      maybe your head has gone out of round or it's misplaced on the shell

    • @naeemgrant5897
      @naeemgrant5897 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@emilienfalcimaigne8065 Oh u might be right. I am new to tuning so the tension might not have been even all the way around. Will definitely take my time with that next time. Thanks.

  • @crawfordmerk5685
    @crawfordmerk5685 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting comparison!
    What cymbals are you guys using in this video?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey there! They were made by Jesse Simpson here in Brooklyn :) he’s a wizard, check him out! -Cody

  • @gogo2957
    @gogo2957 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which particular model of head you have in this video?

  • @kurtpatterson1296
    @kurtpatterson1296 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Inside of Moon Gel,just put the same two ply heads on top and bottom of toms.

  • @jamesfulmer7080
    @jamesfulmer7080 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I bought a old MAPEX PRO M set which will be delivered in a couple days. 24'×18', 14'x10', 18'x16' and 14'x8' snare. I want to make them sound as massive as possible. Any suggestions people?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are some pretty massive drums in general! We’ve got a few videos on tuning large drums that are worth taking a look at. In addition, keep in mind that the room you’re in will dramatically color the sound- ex: getting a massive sound in a dead room is pretty challenging. Cheers! -Ben

    • @jamesfulmer7080
      @jamesfulmer7080 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds Like A Drum, thank you.

  • @anthonydecay8363
    @anthonydecay8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do something like a single ply G14 as a reso head and a 2ply on the batter.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s certainly an option. What is it about that combo that you want to see us feature? Have you tried it before?

    • @anthonydecay8363
      @anthonydecay8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Maybe a juxtaposition between the sound a traditional singly ply (G1) produces as opposed to a thicker single ply reso like a G12 or G14 with your standard 2ply batter (G2). No haven't tried it personally, but thinking of doing it to my Starclassic Acrylic kit. Also curious about the EC reso heads. I just stumbled upon them, even though they've been out in the market for years now, haha! Interesting to have resos with a control ring. Ambassadors and G1's have been the standard for so long, I had no idea I had another option. Thank you for the wealth of information you guys provide! Truly an indispensable source like no other that perfectly consolidates drum knowledge that actually has pragmatic utility.

    • @anthonydecay8363
      @anthonydecay8363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Oh, and what applications (if any) a thicker single ply would be best suited for, such as what you guys illustrated with 2ply resos being best used in a close mic'd situation due to the sound not traveling far.

  • @elee9056
    @elee9056 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    other than wallet method, one lug loose method, could you do a video about a fat snare sound?
    im trying to figure out my tama duo snare. i turn it on and off depends on songs and its hard for me to figure out how to get retain tom quality but have fat snare sound when needed.
    for some reason i got better results from my pearl masters snare for that purpose and that made me sad considering the money ive spent for the duo snare :/

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Here you go: th-cam.com/video/dYvcTL8v9jI/w-d-xo.html

  • @robertcozart
    @robertcozart 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The added tension gives the drums a thin mushy sound

  • @josephmcdermott6426
    @josephmcdermott6426 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how a 2 ply reso would go with a 1 ply batter!

  • @bigdaddy5150sh71
    @bigdaddy5150sh71 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sound like timpany drums.🤘