Awesome. I randomly met Ted Kuchar last summer in a Macy’s in Boulder Colorado and we had a really nice long discussion. I told him how complimentary you were of him and he knew! He posted some clips of de Hartmann performances on his Facebook page - good to see them coming out. I had already been wondering about fe Hartmann - during the bleaknes of 2020 pandemic life, I was doing some research on Florent Schmitt and saw that the BSO performed his immense and awesome Psalm 47 with Munch and upon reading the review in the Globe, I learned that de Hartmann’s cello concerto was premiered that same evening by Paul Tortelier. The review panned it, but I imagine that was some concert! I am dying to get my hands on the score. Hopefully Kuchar will be able to record this with the Ukrainians soon!! 🇺🇦
What a discovery! I am loving this recording. Symphonie-poème No. 4, Op. 90 is especially fun. The imaging and soundstage on the whole thing is outstanding too. Thank you again!
I'm not happy to hear Gurdjieff referred to as a "wack job;" he ought not be dismissed so casually.. The music De Hartmann composed with him is beautiful, by the way.
Thank you for this, David. You continually expand my musical exposure. By the way, this album, along with others of de Hartmann’s music is available through the Qobuz streaming service and they offer all of the album notes, as well.
As a surprising coincidence, I discovered that the great Paul Tortelier, who had been brought to the Boston Symphony by Koussevitzky as a section player in the 30s, made his solo debut there playing de Hartmann’s concerto! He (Tortelier) played again with BSO only once more, with Munch in the 50s. Haydn D major. DeHartmann is amazing. Yes. Thanks!
Thanks for introducing the label Toccata Classics and their interesting catalogue of composers, most of whom had hitherto been unknown to me such as Thomas de Hartmann and Arnold Rosner.
Thanks David, not heard of this composer before, definitely worth a listen. Great to see that you can play clips from Toccata Classics, they have lots of music you simply can't find elsewhere.
A bunch of Thomas de Hartmann's piano music, chamber music and songs have also been issued on Nimbus recently. Looking like a de Hartmann renaissance. Would love to hear your review on these.
Just listened to this via Qobuz. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I also look up Gurdjieff - certainly an interesting character with a “colourful” life.
Thanks for another great video! I just noticed a new Currentzis LVB #9 video performance on TH-cam. He makes the orchestra stand during the performance so you know it's going to be good. Looking forward to your review 😊
This sounds very interesting. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. It is available for streaming on Amazon Prime. It's id'd as "Hartmann: Orchestral Music"
I don't think you have featured Silvestrov yet. Requiem for Larissa on ECM (recorded by the Dumka in Kyiv) may be the place to start. Richly resonates with Britten's Requiem, imo.
I thought it was K.A Hartmann at first. Now I'll surely have to remember 'de Hartmann.' Props to Toccata Classics. I just checked TH-cam and found his violin concerto, which sounds interesting but is really old and poorly recorded so I could only get some sketchy outlines. I wonder if Toccata Classics has any plans to make a recording of this concerto soon. I get to think of Anne-Sophie Mutter as a soloist... Anyways, what are those major labels up to these days? It seems to me that all they do is to put out box sets recycling old materials.
Not to be confused with Karl Amadeus Hartmann, a German composer who IMHO was also a very fine composer-also not very well known. Have you issued any presentations on this composer, Dave?
@@DavesClassicalGuide I understand that you think he's a crank, but as I understand it, the music was a collaboration not just de Hartmann. Anyway thanks for highlighting de Hartmann
@@lordsoulis Not think. He WAS a crank, but you can collaborate with a crank. Lots of composers are cranks. I don't understand the need to keep qualifying my comments. I know very well how de Hartmann and Gurdjieff worked.
Awesome. I randomly met Ted Kuchar last summer in a Macy’s in Boulder Colorado and we had a really nice long discussion. I told him how complimentary you were of him and he knew! He posted some clips of de Hartmann performances on his Facebook page - good to see them coming out.
I had already been wondering about fe Hartmann - during the bleaknes of 2020 pandemic life, I was doing some research on Florent Schmitt and saw that the BSO performed his immense and awesome Psalm 47 with Munch and upon reading the review in the Globe, I learned that de Hartmann’s cello concerto was premiered that same evening by Paul Tortelier. The review panned it, but I imagine that was some concert! I am dying to get my hands on the score. Hopefully Kuchar will be able to record this with the Ukrainians soon!! 🇺🇦
I can’t wait to hear more of Thomas de Hartmann. What a discovery!
What a discovery! I am loving this recording. Symphonie-poème No. 4, Op. 90 is especially fun. The imaging and soundstage on the whole thing is outstanding too. Thank you again!
I'm not happy to hear Gurdjieff referred to as a "wack job;" he ought not be dismissed so casually.. The music De Hartmann composed with him is beautiful, by the way.
Yes, he deserves to be dismissed as casually as possible.
Thank you for this, David. You continually expand my musical exposure. By the way, this album, along with others of de Hartmann’s music is available through the Qobuz streaming service and they offer all of the album notes, as well.
Thanks! Good to know!
Also Presto HiRes site: download in 3 formats from CD quality FLAC. Can also buy the CD. Great stuff.
Available on Spotify as well.
As a surprising coincidence, I discovered that the great Paul Tortelier, who had been brought to the Boston Symphony by Koussevitzky as a section player in the 30s, made his solo debut there playing de Hartmann’s concerto! He (Tortelier) played again with BSO only once more, with Munch in the 50s. Haydn D major. DeHartmann is amazing. Yes. Thanks!
Thanks for introducing the label Toccata Classics and their interesting catalogue of composers, most of whom had hitherto been unknown to me such as Thomas de Hartmann and Arnold Rosner.
Thank you David! I agree with you: this is some quite enjoyable music. I am very glad you made us all discover it. 🙏🏻
Thanks David, not heard of this composer before, definitely worth a listen. Great to see that you can play clips from Toccata Classics, they have lots of music you simply can't find elsewhere.
A bunch of Thomas de Hartmann's piano music, chamber music and songs have also been issued on Nimbus recently. Looking like a de Hartmann renaissance. Would love to hear your review on these.
I have heard only some of his piano music prior to this video. This sounds marvelous! will track it down. Thank you
Just listened to this via Qobuz. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I also look up Gurdjieff - certainly an interesting character with a “colourful” life.
Super presenatation, again David. I'm def. going to get this CD.
Speaking of Ukrainian things David, Presto Classics has specials on some Ukrainian composers that all sales go to humanitarian efforts.
The woodwinds really cut through in each excerpt you played - more than usual. Sounds great.
Thanks for another great video! I just noticed a new Currentzis LVB #9 video performance on TH-cam. He makes the orchestra stand during the performance so you know it's going to be good. Looking forward to your review 😊
Not yet on Amazon. Just bought it from Presto.
This sounds very interesting. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. It is available for streaming on Amazon Prime. It's id'd as "Hartmann: Orchestral Music"
Volume 2 is now also available on Amazon Prime.
What a find! Martin Anderson's Toccata label has lots of them. The enterprise is devoted to exploring musical terra incognita.
I don't think you have featured Silvestrov yet. Requiem for Larissa on ECM (recorded by the Dumka in Kyiv) may be the place to start. Richly resonates with Britten's Requiem, imo.
Found it as a streaming option on Amazon Music!
If you want the CD it's available on Europadisc and Presto Classics.
I thought it was K.A Hartmann at first. Now I'll surely have to remember 'de Hartmann.' Props to Toccata Classics. I just checked TH-cam and found his violin concerto, which sounds interesting but is really old and poorly recorded so I could only get some sketchy outlines. I wonder if Toccata Classics has any plans to make a recording of this concerto soon. I get to think of Anne-Sophie Mutter as a soloist... Anyways, what are those major labels up to these days? It seems to me that all they do is to put out box sets recycling old materials.
Amazing discovery! Who knew?
Not to be confused with Karl Amadeus Hartmann, a German composer who IMHO was also a very fine composer-also not very well known. Have you issued any presentations on this composer, Dave?
Yes.
How can I get the CD?
Shamans don't usually pop up in baroque dance suites... the mental image is amazing 😁
De Hartmann composed a harp concerto, but it seems unfinished as the score and solo part are completely different and the solo part has issues.
You need to listen to the music he produced with Gurdjieff before dismissing it.
I have heard it, and I didn't dismiss the music. I dismissed Gurdjieff.
@@DavesClassicalGuide I understand that you think he's a crank, but as I understand it, the music was a collaboration not just de Hartmann. Anyway thanks for highlighting de Hartmann
@@lordsoulis Not think. He WAS a crank, but you can collaborate with a crank. Lots of composers are cranks. I don't understand the need to keep qualifying my comments. I know very well how de Hartmann and Gurdjieff worked.