I always laugh at the notion that “mj never won a playoff without pip”. When pip came in the nba he wasn’t even the 6th best player on the bulls, he wasn’t useful untill his 4th season even then pip didn’t make a all star game or become a star until 1992….
🎯👌🏽 and by Pip's own admission he wasn't ready tough wise yet and neither was Horace Grant but they don't want to talk about that because they looking for any chinks in MJ's armor because he was so amazing.
it's funny. the 3 is supposed to be the better shot, yet these new cats can barely crack 35ppg. it just allows players to get an easy 20ppg if they're a decent scorer where as in the 90s they woulda been 15ppg.
Facts and more facts. Well said. He didn't lose to aging Mavs , being team up with 2 hall of famers and had a nerve to said that he did not have enough help.
bruh, mj the 🐐 had a for the love of the game clause in his contract. what does that tell us bout how much he played to be the best in all aspects.🙌🏿🙌🏿
"MJ got swept by the big three in Boston." They say that so casually it's insane. Like the big three Celtics in the 80's aren't a part of some of the greatest teams in NBA history. It's easy to just throw that out when LeBron never faced any team close to that caliber in yhe first round early in his career. It would be like LeBron getting drafted to a terrible team in the west and facing the San Antonio Spurs or Kobe's Lakers in round one. Jordan seems to be the only guy not allowed to have any other good players on his team for his case to have any legitimacy. These dudes clearly mistake Scottie being on the Bulls when they made it out of the first round for Scottie being responsible for it.
MJ was a Rookie with a bum team and she still terrorized the Celtics.....his team was not good enough to go up against 4 Hall of famers ...but of course the LBJ worshipers need to find any weak excuse to tvalidate their bogus claims about Le Fraud being the best. .
I know right? As if that Celtics team was an average team. Stuff like this is why I don't watch people like Cowherd and Sharpe and Wright. They are clowns.
@@teamcaveman how ironic because Kobe didn't bring the ball up the fall too often & the lakers would run their sets as Kobe fought to get to his favorite spots. He played similarly like Jordan to get his shots in the triange offense.
@@atlien1988 I’m talking the years post Shaq. Those 2 years before Gasol was traded to the lakers Kobe had the ball almost the whole shot clock. Even some of the Gasol years.
Klutch Row Records and Suge Paul can't intimidate us into falling for 6Flop Brickur. Some of us saw greats who didn't need propaganda, gimmicks, and longevity stats to fabricate a legacy.
hell yeah bro they'll never know. it's like we had cameras and literally every thing of the 80s and 90s is on the internet. this will be a completely mistory to everyone who wasn't there. I mean shit practically a myth... Stfu you old mf 😂
You kids roast yourselves the way you dress like bums and women stop the cap @@ajfraser8337save that shit for the females who want to hear it your parents naming you with last names like fraser 😂
I tell you right now if Jordan was on that Portland team in 2000 they were going to get to the finals instead of the Lakers. Jordan wouldn't have choked that 17 point lead in the fourth quarter
Thank you with that crew... they were winning the Chip that was Pips chance one of a few where MJ was not around and he could have made his case to be Jordans equal... but when it mattered most he fumbled the ball.
@@bondson0094No he made it clear he can’t be Jordan’s equal on national tv when he picked up his shoe, showing the Jordan logo and saying come back. Dominique Wilkins said it best that “SP is the GREATEST ROLE PLAYER EVER”
@@Kingchasethebag-yeahwilt chamberlain played a HOFer 50% of the games he played in his career at his position. There isn’t the competition at that position today and before you say these guys were bums please do some research.
0:21 You can already feel that the high and hype from LeBron James & Bronny James playing together has worn off-just as the 40k wore off and Michael Jordan was STILL the GOAT. The longer that Michael Jordan stays silent and stays humble, the more that The GOAT - Michael Jordan tightens his grip on his GOAT position in basketball history. The more that Michael Jordan ignores The GOAT talk, he stays #1 as The GOAT and history continues to separate him from Kareem, Magic, LeBron, late Kobe, Bird, Wilt, Russell, Oscar, et cetera, et cetera.
Shannon just can’t help himself in these clutch sports employees. They are looking for any narrative or false narrative to hate on Michael Jordan to over hype LeBron but anyone who knows basketball knows Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time. He won three in a row twice and is undefeated in the finals case closed.
@@chrisrenshaw6372 Shannon is the one dude I legitimately believe wants to get diddy'd by LeBron. If his King started an only fans account Shannon would buy up his bath water 😂
"Jordan went 1-9 in the playoffs without Pippen; we don't hold that against him" - Colin Clownherd Hilarious because for idiots like him, that's their ONLY "ammo" against Jordan. That's all any of them can say against him. If that's your only "ammo" against Jordan, your case against him is nonexistent. Period
These people in the media understand that Michael Jordan conversations give them a lot of money and helps them out tremendously. It’s why they keep talking bad about Michael. He’s the gift that keeps on giving. Honestly, after seeing LeBron James collapse against the Dallas Mavericks, get swept multiple times? I just don’t think he’s in his class. Quite honestly I don’t think he’s better than a lot of players all time.
I love how the same dudes are somehow saying that, Jordan had to win everything by himself, while Lebron doesn't need to prove anything because he had no help.
You could argue that, had Pippen developed sooner in the late 80s and early 90s to help Jordan, they could’ve WON MORE. Jordan was forced to wait for Pippen to mature.
MJ just ends up looking better and better the more you re-examine his career. Unlike LeBron James, whose limited skill, fundamentally unsound, shrinks/disappears in the clutch game requires a million excuses to be made by his fans and NBA media talking heads, we never needed to be "sold" on MJ's greatness; we saw it with our own eyes!
1988 Jordan was unbelievable and that series vs the cavs was a very good and entertaining series, i just watched the full series maybe a year ago and it was great basketball, the bulls lost to the pistons in 88 because they were supposed to, severely overmatched...now wait until you do the 89 playoff run...absolutely incredible with 2 major upsets, 89 Jordan probably my favorite all time year of Jordan
I was born September 24th 1980 my first Michael Jordan game iWatch was 8 years old we had the box at that time if you grow up in that era and saw that man play what are we talking about here shout out to the 80s babies because of Michael Jordan experience was out of this world 🌍 he made you watch the basketball game and love the game now we look at it now it's not the same and I know he's sitting back looking at this New age players that we have now that everybody so called like shaking his head 🗣️ like really who takes time off mic drop
Fact is that NOBODY has played with more Hand-Picked ALREADY MADE All-Star players than lebron!!! lol!!! Yet they want to bring up ONE player Jordan MADE = Pippen!??? LOL!!!!! They need to check in to this thing called = Reality.
Every single great needs atleast one other person. They love saying ‘it’s a team game’ when 1v1 is brought up to lebron but when it comes to MJs first few years ‘hE cOuLdN’t dO iT hImSeLf’
Yeah, Kevin Love's numbers went way down... the season prior, the guy put up like 27 & 12. Same thing with Bosh before Miami: he had been a 24 & 12 guy. Wonder what happened? Weird
@@AnHebrewChild Yep. And it's crazy that most think LBJ "makes teammates better, unlike MJ," even though MJ's teammates had similar productions without him. When Pip was without MJ, he wasn't close to solo KL or CB. He was 3rd in MVP voting because of media narratives. He had no business getting more votes than Shaq or Ewing. But my point was that LeSexuals overrate Pip and underrate Love despite having a similar overall impact together with MJ or LBJ (even their advanced metrics are similar).
Jordan just needed Scottie to be a consummate pro. Scottie was not drafted to be a number one, while Shannon’s boy only one when he had TWO other first option players beside him. I don’t want to hear about the 2020 because you don’t miss the playoffs the previous two seasons, win, and then return to the doldrums the year after winning the championship, if you were a legitimate team.
If Lebum had similar mindset and willpower as His Airness, he would have 10 rings. Kobe Bryant was the only one cut from the same cloth as MJ, and so he ended up with 5 rings not 3.5 not 4.
Imagine MJ being held to the highest expectation of greatness of the great MJ, because essentially that's what people do today lol! When you're the standard of greatness in ALL sports, the only thing the naysayers can do is try to diminish the standard of greatness by poking holes in what is greatness. This is why the "new era" fans throw stones at the throne, because they hope to remove the GOAT to replace him with their manufactured "king". 😂
I loved your idea of comparing MJ to current players over the last 10 years give or take. You should do a video on this. Every facet of MJs game compared to current type players or other greats. They would really have to put 5-10 great players if not more to equal MJ. I mean one example is footwork bc fundamentals are also key on why MJ is the goat. Only player I’ve ever seen could compare and that Hakeem Olajuwon. Yes for a center Hakeem had the best but bc of his size limitation he still didn’t equal what MJ could do. I mean MJ ran a 4.2 40 for crying out loud. Then add in the footwork of Hakeem and you have the perfect specimen. I mean there’s stories of MJ moving 4.5 40 time dribbling the ball down the court. Idc what people say that translates to today’s game. I’m not even explaining this well and that’s only one point towards his greatness. I know you could do a better job and make a better video then that goat debate video that was an hour long by doing this. It’s so sad that people are trying to rip apart one of any sports greatest, if not the best, just so they can prop someone else up. Don’t diminish MJ and what he could actually do bc you’re mad your guy isn’t number 1 by most people. MJ was a physical freak in a smaller package. Some would argue the perfect size for basketball domination. He had the best fundamentals and could pass like Lebron. He worked hard on both sides more than any other throughout history. Which when I gave the suggestion to make this video I was even thinking about defensive comparisons to other you would have to combine to equal MJ. It’s so crazy to me that people who are Lebron fans that grew up loving MJ, aka LeShannon Sharpe, would try to tear down MJ. Even that fool growing up and a NFL hall of famer wanted to be like MJ if he could.
Thanks for making that Melo comparison Uncut. That's EXACTLY why the league was trying to phase him out. ANYONE that reminds people of Jordan's game? If you notice? They are gone or barely play anymore.
The difference between MJ and bron is MJ had to learn and grow to be a leader for his team, even with his personal faults. He knew that over time it would take a lot of mental strength, cooperation, teamwork, learning everyones strengths, and use them to eventually get to the finals, if not win 2 three peats. Some of his teammates knew this important factor; "You dont have to like him as a person, but you will learn to work as a team and win not just for personal sake, but for the team as a whole"
“They were really concentrating on [Jordan], and I was able to come up with easy buckets. My man was concentrating on stopping Michael from going to the hole, and I had to make myself available.” Pippen said of his role: Pippen game 5 to eliminate Cavs in 1988 playoffs.
If the current Lakers played the 88 Pistons, the point differential would be +50 for the Pistons. The Pistons simply played ridiculously suffocating defense those years.
He was still dropping 60 points on Larry birds Celtics by himself Shannon you absolute clown. Let’s see what Jordan’s wizards can do if he had a player like Anthony Davis 😂 ffs lebron has played with more all stars than any player in history and these people act like Scottie pippens 13 ppg are what made Jordan. It’s a complete joke.
@@jessiegomez8209 yeah well he didn’t disappear on his team the way your queen always does lmao. Jordan took a team that had never won a title and gave them six bro, it’s called a dynasty, something LeBalco will never have no matter how many all stars he has to carry him.
@@jessiegomez8209 also if the win is all that matters 6 rings with no finals losses is still way better than 10 finals appearances with six losses. On god nobody gets more credit for losing than LeBron freaking James 😂
Jordan won the NCAA chip and the 1984 olympic gold medal as a collegiate player without Pippen or Phil Jackson!! Clearly Jordan could win without Pippen and Phil!!
The truth is they hated on MJ early on in his career, but he was relentless. He was undeniably great. Every single game became must-see tv. You stopped what you were doing because you knew he would do something absolutely amazing. He always delivered.
Pippen chose to not be as good as Jordan. He sacrificed his career so that Jordan’s image could be solid. Or whatever tf Nick Wrong and LeBron stans say.
@@terellwhite3361 How old are yall? Cuz the reading comprehension levels are showing. Read my entire original comment again. And read the last sentence slow.
Its actually insane how dominant MJ was when you take a detailed look. Its easy to ignore if you werent around to watch it happen in real time. No one else has ever had the ability to completely take over a game, a series, or a whole season.
it has been over 20ys since MJ last played...yet we are still talking about him and his greatness (an no sign of slowing down).....no other player in the history of professional sports has had that type of influence...that is true longevity!!!...PED cant even compete with that...right Lejuice?
I'll never understand this argument. Jordan played 3 seasons total before Scottie arrived, and he was the 3rd overall pick because the Bulls were awful. THe Bulls had to TRADE UP from the 8th pick and future picks to get Pippen as the 5th pick, and the Bulls won a playoff series when Pippen was a rookie and minor contributor.
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So we're just going to ignore WHO he played when "He didn't win anything". That Celtics team starting 5 are all in the Hall of Fame, minus Danny Ange, who should be. Basketball is a TEAM sport, and it wasn't JUST Pippen, it was GRANT, too. And then for the 2nd 3-peat it was RODMAN. He won 6 rings on two three-peats with one of the weakest supporting casts ever. You know who didn't win shit without Jordan? PIPPEN.
TOP 30 ALL TIME: 1. Michael Jordan - the greatest player and the greatest career in NBA history. Most dominant offensive force and one of the games best defenders. A literal, overpowered video game character. 6x Champ 6x FMVP 5x MVP 1x DPOY 2. Bill Russell - BILLY. Russell is the greatest winner and greatest defensive force in NBA and sports history. A legend on/off court. The key to NBA first dynasty. 11x Champ 5x FMVP 5x MVP 3. Magic Johnson - the great PG ever (so far…). REVOLUTIONIZED his position and saved the NBA. He has the highest assist avg. all time and went to the Finals 7/12 seasons between his rookie season and first retirement. Remarkable. Magical. 5x Champ 3x FMVP 3x MVP 4. LeBron James - the greatest longevity in sports history. One of the most dominant forces ever and top5 all round player. ALLTIME points leader and the only player to keep up this quality of play this late into a HOF/Mt Rushmore career. Still.. counting. 4x Champ 4x FMVP 4x MVP 5. Tim Duncan - best PF ever. One of the most fundamentally sound players ever. Played both ends at the highest level for 15 seasons. BIG Fundamental 5x Champ 3x FMVP 2x MVP 6. Kareem Abdul Jabar - owner of the most dominant go-to move on offense. The HOOK. The previous scoring leader and lead all points for 4 decades. The greatest BASKETBALL career ever. Prep to Pro. 6x Champ 2x FMVP 6x MVP 7. Kobe Bryant - see number 1 and dilute the athleticism and physical intangibles and that’s what you got. Arguably the greatest warrior in NBA history. Bean lead LA to 7 titles in his 20 year career and took 5. A gladiator, general, philosopher and true sage of the game … forever missed. 24everMamba. 5x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 8. Shaquille O’Neal - the most dominant ever. The immovable object/unstoppable force. Shaq was the definition of dominance. Should’ve been the goat. Nobody was in better position to take the crown of GOAT from MJ since Shaq in 04’. Yes. NOT Kobe, NOT LBJ. DIESEL. 4x Champ 3x FMVP 1x MVP 9. Larry Bird - maybe the most legendary on the list. Precursor to Jokic but better. One of the most skilled & clutch players ever. In any sport. LARRY LEGEND. 3x Champ 2x FMVP 3x MVP 10. Hakeem Olajuwon - back to back. The best of the mid90’s and second best player in the era. Hakeem is like Russell but with AllNBA offensive ability. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 11. Wilt Chamberlain - the games most prolific scorers. Arguably it’s greatest defender as well. The man could do it all. Even lead the league in assist at 7”2. Wilt IS unparalleled. GOAT athlete. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 4x MVP 12. Steph Curry - the games most prolific shooter and one of its greatest scorers. The only unanimous MVP and the first ever. The catalyst for the current style of NBA basketball. REVOLUTIONIZED the game forever. STILL GOING. Splash Bro. 4x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 13. Isaiah Thomas - ZEKE. CP3 before CP3 but nastier and meaner. A warrior and one of the games greatest strategist and generals. Quietly a top5 passer. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 14. Oscar Robertson - the greatest all around basketball player ever. Could do everything at a AllNBA level. Changed the way players were interpreted and influenced generations. 1x Champ 2x MVP 15. Kevin Durant - the Slim Reaper is likely the most ideal offensive weapon ever. Can hit from anywhere, anytime over anyone. Hard to beat and impossible to match that level of offensive dominance. 2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP 16. Julius Erving - The good Dr., the FIRST MJ (before Magic & Jordan), The icon and face of BOTH leagues that saved the game in the 70’s. Kareem was the best but Doc was a close 2nd. Underrated statistical brilliance. Was like a 6’7-6’8 Giannis but with a better jump shot. 3x Champ (1 NBA) 2x FMVP 4x MVP (1 NBA) 17.. Moses Malone - CHAIRMAN OF DA BOARDS. Arguably the best board getter… ever. Only Wilt, Russell, Rodman and Thurmond belong in the same discussion. Moses lead his people to the promise land more than once but was able to claim immortality in the early 80’s. His team lead by the dynamic duo of he and Doc dominated the league. Before Lakers v. Celtics it was 76ers v. Celtics-Lakers. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 3xMVP 18. John Havlicek - the GREAT one. MJ is 6-0. Ole Johnny is 8-0. The offensive force off the bench or starting that lead the dynastic Celtics to all 8. Early in his career he was akin to Jordan Poole role on Warriors 22’ team but better at everything but the 3 ball. Then in the late 60’s-70’s he sat in captains seat. His career is a unique mix. Played like Pippen with elite perimeter shooting/scoring, early career was early Kobe-esque, late career MJ/Kobe-esque. John’s game rose in the playoffs. 8x Champ 1x FMVP (likely 4x) 19. Giannis Antetokounmpo - it’s getting freaky… GreekMan is literally on the ride to potentially threatening Tim’s best PF title. If he can add a couple more rings to his already HOF profile he will likely be the new PF or TOP 5 player. Yea. THAT GOOD. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 1x DPOY 20. Jerry West - The LOGO. Steph Curry before Steph. The man that built the LA franchise along Baylor post Mikan era. Jerry West was the blueprint skill base for players like Kobe, MJ, TMac, etc At 6’2-6’3 he torched his opponents his entire career and dropped plenty of dimes. The ORIGINAL combo guard. So damn great he LOST and still won FMVP… case closed. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 21. Nikola Jokic - the Joker is no damn joke. Genuinely a candidate for potential GOAT if his career pans out in the extreme positive like that of the top 10. Jokic is in a unique place being the greatest passing big statically NBA history (excluding Magic). If Jokic finds a way to fit more jewelry in his fingers, we might have to have a real discussion about that greatest Center of all time discussion. Yes. Potentially a top 5 player alert. 1x MVP 1x FMVP 3x MVP (should’ve been 3 consecutive but you know 22. Rick Barry - The ACTUAL “White Mamba”. Just predated the black one… Barry was the answer up until 85’ when you asked who the best SF ever. His game was similar to West but 6’7 and a better FT%. Controversial, cerebral and iconic. Had so much game he had to share what was left with his sons… 1x Champ 1x FMVP 23. Kevin Garnett - The Big Ticket. The 00’ Giannis. In every way but he had a better jumper midrange and beyond. KG was a monstrosity on OFF/DEF in his prime much like his modern comparison. Led the TWolves to relevance and led the 08’ Celtics to a chip. Truly the BIG TICKET. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP 24. Dirk Nowitzki - DIGGLER. The one and only. The German Bird. THE Maverick. Dirk is one of the most beloved, iconic and acclaimed players ever. The 00’s stretch big supreme. Dirk was able to take the Mavs to immortality over 11’ Heat in arguably the most surprising run ever. Only Dirk. Forever the DIGGLER. Arguably, the GOAT Euro player. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP 25. Bob Pettit - Big Blue was the first stretch 4 in the games history. That’s for starters. Pettit was a tenacious rebounder and highly skilled scorer. He was much akin to K. Love of his era but in better shape and played defense. Think a smaller Dirk who grabbed boards like Love but in the 50’s-60’s era. Not only that, much like Dirk, Pettit lead a historic upset over Russell’s Celtics. A true champ. 1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 26. Dwayne Wade - The Flash. Wade County. The greatest Heat in NBA history. Wade is arguably the best defensive player at his position and easily too3 (MJ, Kobe). Led the Heat to a title in 06’ in historic fashion against Dirks Mavs. Then winning a couple more as LBJ’s Pippen. His career was like Kobe’s… in reverse. Wade’s early injuries reduced his maximum career output but yet here he is… says a ton. 3x Champ 1x FMVP 27. Elgin Baylor - The PROTOTYPE. Before West, Julius, Thompson, Wilkins, MJ, Hardaway, Kobe, Carter, TMac, Wade, Ant etc There was Elgin Baylor. The first Air, the first Mamba, the first Half Man/Amazing, Flash etc Baylor spearheaded an era that hardly wanted his talents there but had no other choice but to be in awe of it. Think Harden, in shape but not as good of a playmaker, twice the rebounder and a better defender. That’s Elgin. *left a season before historic LAL title win 28. David Robinson - The Admiral. The USA’s biggest weapon in the 90’s was also one of the greatest ever. Made the spurs relevant pre-Duncan and post. Has some of the greatest seasons statistically. Think Giannis but 7’2 with a lefty and 15 footer plus an even better defender. 2x Champ 1x MVP 29. Karl Malone - the Mailman was LBJ minus the handles and vision. King of the pick n roll. 1x MVP 30. Charles Barkley - The Round Mound of Rebound was the Tasmanian devil in a basketball jersey. Prime 25 5 13 guy. Impact everywhere he went. OG DREAMTEAM member by the way… 1x MVP 30 (?) Clyde Drexler - The Glide. One of the most useful all around talents in nba history. One of the greatest two way players ever. Helped every squad he went to become a contender. 1x Champ * HONORABLE MENTION: McHale, Nash, Harden, Parker, CP3, Stockton, Walton, Payton, Westbrook, Drexler, Ewing, Sam Jones, Cousy, Pierce, Iverson, McAdoo, Frazier, Unsled, Reed, Webber, English, A. Davis ^GIVE HONEST FEEDBACK CRITIQUE ATTEMPTING A PERFECT TOP30 list
My feedback is I have no idea what you prioritize on your list. Duncan over Kobe tends to lend towards a list that prioritizes defense, yet we have Magic significantly ahead of Bird and Kareem despite those 2 being much better on the defensive end. Olajuwon also ends up pretty low for a defense oriented list, as he can frequently get the nod over Shaq in such a list. I would say rings then is the difference maker on this, as Wilt and Olajuwon ended up on the lower end, but I feel like Kareem is getting underrated on a list that heavily values rings. My next guess would be finals MVPs, but that would tend to elevate LeBron and Shaq to higher than where they ended up, and Oscar Robertson would go down a fair bit. Your explanations just feel generic, and don't give any sense of relative value. It seems like you put up an arbitrary list, and just said great things about each player. If you put some reasoning for why you rate some players higher than others (even if it is eye test, which is perfectly legitimate) it's a lot easier to make a discussion out of it.
Lebron, Zeke, and Giannis all to high. Lebron isn’t top 10. Zeke probably in the 20’s and Giannis is not a top 30 all time. Bird is way too low. Jokic is a very tough one. And as good as KD is I just can’t see putting someone there that can’t lead a team.
@@jaketerpening3284 It’s simply an all encompassing list. I remember back when people used to comprise these list, NOBODY asked criteria. It was simply, whos better? Who’s best? Interesting. If I were to express a criteria or way I gage the quality of a player: 1. Career accolades/individual performance 2. Team/Franchise accomplishments - Rings/Winning% 3. MAKE & MODEL/positions/ability 4. The EYE test - mobility/ability on court 5. State of the Union - Eras. Rules. Culture. That’s really it.
@@Mhr6685 Zeke is the only player to defeat the NBA trinity of Magic/MJ/Bird in their primes. He did it twice. Back to back. One of the greatest playmakers ever. Easily top20. LeBron minus PED’s is nothing less than a Top5 player based on him being the best ever at his respective position, SF. ALLTIME point leader, 4x 🏆 . Giannis is on the verge of challenging the GOAT at his potion if he wins more and gains more career accolades. Likelihood? HIGH. Dude isn’t even 30. God forbid he plays til 38-40. Likely.
LeBalco doesn't belong with ANY greats. He has WAY too many holes in his game, flops a lot, and cries to refs (MID PLAY)when things don't go his way. There are plenty of videos exposing his flaws.
You can also see it this way: Jordan never lost a finals series once Pippen joined him; LeBron still lost finals series with Wade, Bosch, Love, and Irving (who was injured).
In the clip of one of the playoff games against the Pistons at 32:25 when MJ drives to the foul line and goes up, the way Rodman collapses and does that loud ass yell/whaaaaa had me in stitches 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 (I think it was Rodman, watching on mobile and hard to see.)
I watched MJ & Pippens entire career its hilarious to me how thes fools are trying to make pippen like some generational talent just to pump up Lebron its so see through 😂😂😂😂
Jordan was doin b4 melo... long b4 melo... so it's not jordan looked like melo... no, it's melo looked similar to jordan in the iso. And for the record... Jordan was a much better finisher at the rim than kyrie...kyrie isn't near as consistent as MJ was...
Laimbeer actually was a pretty decent 3pt shooter, especially for a C in his era. There was a 4 year stretch(including the 2 title years) where he shot 34.6% on 1.4 attempts per game.
Pipen may have not saved MJs career, but MJs career without Pipen wouldn't have been the same. Simply because, as good as his numbers were, he won rings, aided by Pipen, a great roster and the best coach. Even MJ recognized that himself. So, are you gonna deny what MJ acknowledged?
0:01 Shannon Sharpe is a peon compared to Shaquille O’Neal. The GOAT - Michael Jordan & Shannon Sharpe were both eligible for their respective Hall-of-Fames in 2009. One of these 2 men got in to the HOF in 2009 and the other man was rejected from the HOF in 2009. The guy who was rejected in 2009, tried to get into the Hall-of-Fame again the following year in 2010, and dude was rejected AGAIN! He came back for a 3rd time crying and begging in 2011, and finally and mercifully the committee let Shannon Sharpe into his Hall-of-Fame in 2011. Michael Jordan went into his Hall-of-Fame 2 years earlier in 2009. Likewise, as soon as Shaquille O’Neal became eligible for the Hall-of-Fame in 2016, just like the GOAT - Michael Jordan, Shaquille O’Neal got into the Hall-of-Fame immediately, ON HIS FIRST TRY….not on his THIRD TRY like Shannon Sharpe begged for. 🤷♂️ 💯
12:41 Jordan fouled, no call, no complaining and watch him hustle back, you don't see a lot of that today. 20:00 Price was lethal from 3, insanely underrated player.
The most surprising fact here: Richland Coliseum held over 20,000?!?! Their current arena doesn't even hold that. Back when real fans could go to games...
Contrary to the delusions of many LeBron fanboys, Pippen's presence or absence had nothing to do with Chicago's first playoff series win. Rather, it was whether or not Jordan could play at an all-time MVP level that completely transcended normal MVP level, which means that the Chicago roster was so weak enough and the Eastern Conference was a hell of a place at the time that Jordan had to play at an all-time MVP level in his fourth year to win a 1st round playoff series.
I’m a 72 yr old grandma who watched them play before #Mike and after #HisAirness. The woke nba can 🧢 all they want but #AirJordan will always #TheGoat no matter Who he had to train to help him! 🙄
The big difference between Jordan and Kyrie is Jordan was going through a double team to be met by 2 more guys. Kyrie is beating 1 man and meeting 1 or 2 guys.
The truth is Jordan is #1 all time. Pippen is #2 all time. That fact doesn't diminish either of them. It just shows you how great players were in the early 90s compared to any other time period
I don't understand the Jordan slander. I think nowadays, people only root for players and not root for teams. They will go all in for their players while people who root for teams understand that player's true value. As a Knicks fan, that man made my team his highlight reel without any spacing. I don't say he's the best player because I'm a fanboy, I say it because he was fucking unstoppable and a complete psycho who only wanted to win. Hated that guy back in the day, but i appreciated what I saw from his game at my team's expense.
Ok, for the last time. The Pippen argument doesn't hurt MJ goat status in ANY way. In fact, it PROVES MJ is the GOAT. No doubt Pippen is an All Star and amazing defender and playmaker. He is a career just under 20ppg. Nobody debates that he is MJs strongest teammate. And see, THATS ALL JORDAN NEEDED. ONE ALL STAR PLAYER. Compare that to the "Lebron never had help" fucking all star rosters that this man had, and still couldn't get it done half the time. Give Jordan ONE all star player and he got it done!
MJ was still great without Pippen. Pippen was the right piece for MJ. I still bet MJ could have gotten 3 or 4 without Pip. People also forget MJ was dealing with alot of issues outside the court as well. Yes, Self inflicted but he still was dealing with issues.
Actually chicago didn't get pippen through the draft. They got him in a trade with Seattle on draft night and alot of people dont even realize that Horace Grant was actually looked at as the better prospect of the 2 at that time.
Scottie Pippen was a beast! Without him the Bulls would have lost against the Celtics and Pistons even in 1991. He was the main reason the Pistons lost! Even John Salley from the Pistons admitted that in an interview! Quote “we had no answer for Pippen.” Pippen could play position 1-5. MJ was absolutely amazing player but never 🏆 without Scottie Pippen! MJ bullied his teammates but Scottie kept the team together! 👍🏽👍🏽
I always laugh at the notion that “mj never won a playoff without pip”. When pip came in the nba he wasn’t even the 6th best player on the bulls, he wasn’t useful untill his 4th season even then pip didn’t make a all star game or become a star until 1992….
Dude also missed many games over many playoffs and finals.
10000000% facts.
Bronsexuals are desperately making stuff up just to make Diddy's boy toy look good
🎯👌🏽 and by Pip's own admission he wasn't ready tough wise yet and neither was Horace Grant but they don't want to talk about that because they looking for any chinks in MJ's armor because he was so amazing.
Facts Scottie was riding the bench. Horace Grant started before him. Man stop
35 points per game in the non-3 pointer era is INSANE. I don't think people realize that.
it's funny. the 3 is supposed to be the better shot, yet these new cats can barely crack 35ppg. it just allows players to get an easy 20ppg if they're a decent scorer where as in the 90s they woulda been 15ppg.
We're training more and more space cadets thesedays
Just imagine if he was shooting 3s lol,, he would've averaged 42ppg easily
@@king-ghost1027 he held the most 3 pointers in the Final’s for a long time
Lebron is motivated by the attention, Michael was motivated by an innate desire to be the best. There will never be another MJ
Facts and more facts. Well said. He didn't lose to aging Mavs , being team up with 2 hall of famers and had a nerve to said that he did not have enough help.
Lebron is like the perfect NBA player, but he was still affected by gravity like the rest of us, MJ was not.
@@KoShotperfect? He STILL can't shoot free throws at a great level and his footwork is ATROCIOUS
bruh, mj the 🐐 had a for the love of the game clause in his contract. what does that tell us bout how much he played to be the best in all aspects.🙌🏿🙌🏿
@@KoShot Far from perfect. His so-called unselfishness is just to steal stats from teammates so he can look better than he is. This is why he is 4/6.
Its funny how Bronsexuals always bring up pippen like half of Brons rings didnt come with Wade who was a champ long before he teamed up with Bron.
Bron is a coattail rider.
@@yournumberonepal Bron rode the tails of these players: Kyrie, Love, Wade, Bosh, AD, Dwight, and so on, and he STILL lost more than he won 😂
THe point is to drag Jordan down, not prop Lebron up. Dragging Jordan's greatness down props up Lebum by default. It's pathetic.
Exactly.
Mainly because Bron won without Wade, MJ was trash without Pippen
I guess MJ is the only player in nba history held to that standard of not being able to have any help . Casual take these lebron media pundits have .
Him and Steph.
lol delete this comment
@@cherimoneeboone71274-6 Leloser 😂
@@cherimoneeboone7127 never , we speak truth over here .
No, because everyone swear Jordan been winning since 84.
When Lebron got help he kept losing. He is 4-6 with help 🤷♂️
Big FACTS
the comparisons need to stop. MJ is God of basketball. lebron is not even top 10
"MJ got swept by the big three in Boston."
They say that so casually it's insane. Like the big three Celtics in the 80's aren't a part of some of the greatest teams in NBA history. It's easy to just throw that out when LeBron never faced any team close to that caliber in yhe first round early in his career. It would be like LeBron getting drafted to a terrible team in the west and facing the San Antonio Spurs or Kobe's Lakers in round one. Jordan seems to be the only guy not allowed to have any other good players on his team for his case to have any legitimacy. These dudes clearly mistake Scottie being on the Bulls when they made it out of the first round for Scottie being responsible for it.
Yup, MJ averages FORTY and Pip averages 12 but it's MJ's fault they lost 😂
MJ was a Rookie with a bum team and she still terrorized the Celtics.....his team was not good enough to go up against 4 Hall of famers ...but of course the LBJ worshipers need to find any weak excuse to tvalidate their bogus claims about Le Fraud being the best. .
I know right? As if that Celtics team was an average team. Stuff like this is why I don't watch people like Cowherd and Sharpe and Wright. They are clowns.
@@jansmitowiczauthor78jordan also lost to Chris Webber and and Grant Hill abd their college roommate in a exhibition game
It was a big 5.
Michael Jordan averaged more assists in his career than Scottie Pippen
…and he didn’t even start the offense with the ball. Kobe and LeBron were extremely ball dominant
@@teamcaveman how ironic because Kobe didn't bring the ball up the fall too often & the lakers would run their sets as Kobe fought to get to his favorite spots. He played similarly like Jordan to get his shots in the triange offense.
@@atlien1988 I’m talking the years post Shaq. Those 2 years before Gasol was traded to the lakers Kobe had the ball almost the whole shot clock. Even some of the Gasol years.
@@teamcaveman Kobe had the highest assists for a SG during his tenure.
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UNCUT HOOPS COMING WITH THESE UNCUT GEMS!!!! Great work bro
Kids these days won't get to see what basketball used to be in the 80s and 90s. These days, it's a spoiled-cupcake league.
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hell yeah bro they'll never know. it's like we had cameras and literally every thing of the 80s and 90s is on the internet. this will be a completely mistory to everyone who wasn't there. I mean shit practically a myth...
Stfu you old mf 😂
They watch clips and think they know shit. Many likely don't even watch clips (see Anylt Edwards's dumbass)
Nah bro we’ve seen the ball then. It was awful, most college kids now would roast the bum asses in the 80s and 90s 😂
You kids roast yourselves the way you dress like bums and women stop the cap @@ajfraser8337save that shit for the females who want to hear it your parents naming you with last names like fraser 😂
I tell you right now if Jordan was on that Portland team in 2000 they were going to get to the finals instead of the Lakers. Jordan wouldn't have choked that 17 point lead in the fourth quarter
Thank you with that crew... they were winning the Chip that was Pips chance one of a few where MJ was not around and he could have made his case to be Jordans equal... but when it mattered most he fumbled the ball.
@@bondson0094No he made it clear he can’t be Jordan’s equal on national tv when he picked up his shoe, showing the Jordan logo and saying come back. Dominique Wilkins said it best that “SP is the GREATEST ROLE PLAYER EVER”
People act as if pippen was a 25 ppg scorer and mvp candidate 😂
That's wild calling Jordan a loser on live TV. The GREATEST OF ALL TIME a loser. Unbelievable...what a terrible world we live in.
Lebron is the most overrated player in nba history.
That’s gotta go to bill Russell or wilt…..
@@eliotchase This is not about LeBron. It's about MJ!
And how do you know this dumbass?Did you check history of every single player that ever played.You didn't so you just making up lies and crap.😂
@@vincentmartinez8241 tell that to lebron and the revisionist on espn.
@@Kingchasethebag-yeahwilt chamberlain played a HOFer 50% of the games he played in his career at his position. There isn’t the competition at that position today and before you say these guys were bums please do some research.
Was Pippen very helpfull to Jordan's legacy? Of course
Was Pippen the main reason why he was the winner he was? Not at all
Michael - won nothing without Pippen.
LeBron - won nothing without Wade, Bosh, Kyrie, Love, and Davis.
Case closed.
Don’t forget Ray Allen, he literally hit the shot that saved LeMaid.
Ray Allen was awesome to watch. 😂
0:21 You can already feel that the high and hype from LeBron James & Bronny James playing together has worn off-just as the 40k wore off and Michael Jordan was STILL the GOAT. The longer that Michael Jordan stays silent and stays humble, the more that The GOAT - Michael Jordan tightens his grip on his GOAT position in basketball history. The more that Michael Jordan ignores The GOAT talk, he stays #1 as The GOAT and history continues to separate him from Kareem, Magic, LeBron, late Kobe, Bird, Wilt, Russell, Oscar, et cetera, et cetera.
Keep huffing that copium 😂
@@ajfraser8337Queen James now has the most shots missed on top of most turn overs and a losing finals record yall kids defend a loser 😂
MJ made Pippen great. They both honestly complimented each other's game!
Pippen made himself great.😊
Yes Jordan gave him advice and stuff but the player needs to put the work in an observe the game.
@jessiegomez8209 under Jordan TUTELAGE Pippen became a great complimentary sidekick player.
Nice try though
@@g24deez Became a better perimeter defender than your girl Jordan.🤔👍
@@jessiegomez8209 No lefanboy Jordan made pippen a better player. Pippen said it himself during his hall of fame speech. But nice try lefanboy
Shannon just can’t help himself in these clutch sports employees. They are looking for any narrative or false narrative to hate on Michael Jordan to over hype LeBron but anyone who knows basketball knows Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time. He won three in a row twice and is undefeated in the finals case closed.
They riding Bron like he a rodeo bull 😂
@@chrisrenshaw6372 Shannon is the one dude I legitimately believe wants to get diddy'd by LeBron. If his King started an only fans account Shannon would buy up his bath water 😂
"Jordan went 1-9 in the playoffs without Pippen; we don't hold that against him" - Colin Clownherd
Hilarious because for idiots like him, that's their ONLY "ammo" against Jordan. That's all any of them can say against him. If that's your only "ammo" against Jordan, your case against him is nonexistent. Period
Wait a minute wasn't scottie pippen drafted the same year Jordan won dpoy and league mvp?
Uncut is cooking with fish grease with this series 🔥🔥🔥
These people in the media understand that Michael Jordan conversations give them a lot of money and helps them out tremendously. It’s why they keep talking bad about Michael. He’s the gift that keeps on giving. Honestly, after seeing LeBron James collapse against the Dallas Mavericks, get swept multiple times? I just don’t think he’s in his class. Quite honestly I don’t think he’s better than a lot of players all time.
LBJ is not even the greatest Laker let alone the greatest player of all time..
I love how the same dudes are somehow saying that, Jordan had to win everything by himself, while Lebron doesn't need to prove anything because he had no help.
You could argue that, had Pippen developed sooner in the late 80s and early 90s to help Jordan, they could’ve WON MORE. Jordan was forced to wait for Pippen to mature.
MJ just ends up looking better and better the more you re-examine his career. Unlike LeBron James, whose limited skill, fundamentally unsound, shrinks/disappears in the clutch game requires a million excuses to be made by his fans and NBA media talking heads, we never needed to be "sold" on MJ's greatness; we saw it with our own eyes!
Pippen didn’t win one FMVP to MJ.
Pippen couldn't even make an allstar team after he left the bulls.
The only other guy on those teams that even came close was RODMAN.
Always good watching someone expose the talking heads on TH-cam 🍿🍿
1988 Jordan was unbelievable and that series vs the cavs was a very good and entertaining series, i just watched the full series maybe a year ago and it was great basketball, the bulls lost to the pistons in 88 because they were supposed to, severely overmatched...now wait until you do the 89 playoff run...absolutely incredible with 2 major upsets, 89 Jordan probably my favorite all time year of Jordan
I was born September 24th 1980 my first Michael Jordan game iWatch was 8 years old we had the box at that time if you grow up in that era and saw that man play what are we talking about here shout out to the 80s babies because of Michael Jordan experience was out of this world 🌍 he made you watch the basketball game and love the game now we look at it now it's not the same and I know he's sitting back looking at this New age players that we have now that everybody so called like shaking his head 🗣️ like really who takes time off mic drop
LeBron stans act like Pippen went into Chicago and displaced Jordan the way Tim Duncan went into San Antonio and displaced David Robinson.
Fact is that NOBODY has played with more Hand-Picked ALREADY MADE All-Star players than lebron!!! lol!!! Yet they want to bring up ONE player Jordan MADE = Pippen!??? LOL!!!!! They need to check in to this thing called = Reality.
Every single great needs atleast one other person. They love saying ‘it’s a team game’ when 1v1 is brought up to lebron but when it comes to MJs first few years ‘hE cOuLdN’t dO iT hImSeLf’
Pip was clearly the man on those teams with 16, 6, and 5. Just like Kevin Love was the top dog with 16, 10, and 2.
Yeah, Kevin Love's numbers went way down... the season prior, the guy put up like 27 & 12.
Same thing with Bosh before Miami: he had been a 24 & 12 guy.
Wonder what happened? Weird
@@AnHebrewChild Yep. And it's crazy that most think LBJ "makes teammates better, unlike MJ," even though MJ's teammates had similar productions without him. When Pip was without MJ, he wasn't close to solo KL or CB. He was 3rd in MVP voting because of media narratives. He had no business getting more votes than Shaq or Ewing. But my point was that LeSexuals overrate Pip and underrate Love despite having a similar overall impact together with MJ or LBJ (even their advanced metrics are similar).
You are a blessing to the basketball community bro. We thank you for your time and dedication. The truth always comes to light!
Jordan just needed Scottie to be a consummate pro. Scottie was not drafted to be a number one, while Shannon’s boy only one when he had TWO other first option players beside him. I don’t want to hear about the 2020 because you don’t miss the playoffs the previous two seasons, win, and then return to the doldrums the year after winning the championship, if you were a legitimate team.
The Mickey Mouse ring was bogus all set up for LeFraud
You always putting in the hard work 💪🎉👍 on your videos
Pippen is overrated and Grant is way underrated.
If Lebum had similar mindset and willpower as His Airness, he would have 10 rings.
Kobe Bryant was the only one cut from the same cloth as MJ, and so he ended up with 5 rings not 3.5 not 4.
Imagine MJ being held to the highest expectation of greatness of the great MJ, because essentially that's what people do today lol!
When you're the standard of greatness in ALL sports, the only thing the naysayers can do is try to diminish the standard of greatness by poking holes in what is greatness.
This is why the "new era" fans throw stones at the throne, because they hope to remove the GOAT to replace him with their manufactured "king". 😂
it's 100% true Jordan did not win an NBA championship without Pippen.
Agree. They couldn't call MJ the GOAT without Pippen dominating like he did.
I loved your idea of comparing MJ to current players over the last 10 years give or take. You should do a video on this. Every facet of MJs game compared to current type players or other greats. They would really have to put 5-10 great players if not more to equal MJ. I mean one example is footwork bc fundamentals are also key on why MJ is the goat. Only player I’ve ever seen could compare and that Hakeem Olajuwon. Yes for a center Hakeem had the best but bc of his size limitation he still didn’t equal what MJ could do. I mean MJ ran a 4.2 40 for crying out loud. Then add in the footwork of Hakeem and you have the perfect specimen. I mean there’s stories of MJ moving 4.5 40 time dribbling the ball down the court. Idc what people say that translates to today’s game. I’m not even explaining this well and that’s only one point towards his greatness. I know you could do a better job and make a better video then that goat debate video that was an hour long by doing this. It’s so sad that people are trying to rip apart one of any sports greatest, if not the best, just so they can prop someone else up. Don’t diminish MJ and what he could actually do bc you’re mad your guy isn’t number 1 by most people. MJ was a physical freak in a smaller package. Some would argue the perfect size for basketball domination. He had the best fundamentals and could pass like Lebron. He worked hard on both sides more than any other throughout history. Which when I gave the suggestion to make this video I was even thinking about defensive comparisons to other you would have to combine to equal MJ. It’s so crazy to me that people who are Lebron fans that grew up loving MJ, aka LeShannon Sharpe, would try to tear down MJ. Even that fool growing up and a NFL hall of famer wanted to be like MJ if he could.
I'll stick with Jerry West's take over the idiotic Sharpe/Wright/Cowherd delusions
Thanks for making that Melo comparison Uncut. That's EXACTLY why the league was trying to phase him out. ANYONE that reminds people of Jordan's game? If you notice? They are gone or barely play anymore.
Hey bro your edits are getting better. 🔥 keep it up fam
The difference between MJ and bron is MJ had to learn and grow to be a leader for his team, even with his personal faults. He knew that over time it would take a lot of mental strength, cooperation, teamwork, learning everyones strengths, and use them to eventually get to the finals, if not win 2 three peats. Some of his teammates knew this important factor; "You dont have to like him as a person, but you will learn to work as a team and win not just for personal sake, but for the team as a whole"
“They were really concentrating on [Jordan], and I was able to come up with easy buckets. My man was concentrating on stopping Michael from going to the hole, and I had to make myself available.” Pippen said of his role:
Pippen game 5 to eliminate Cavs in 1988 playoffs.
If the current Lakers played the 88 Pistons, the point differential would be +50 for the Pistons.
The Pistons simply played ridiculously suffocating defense those years.
Jordan is the only player not allowed to have help!! Jordan's help was significantly less than Lebron's!!
Hakeem won with nobody!!
He was still dropping 60 points on Larry birds Celtics by himself Shannon you absolute clown. Let’s see what Jordan’s wizards can do if he had a player like Anthony Davis 😂 ffs lebron has played with more all stars than any player in history and these people act like Scottie pippens 13 ppg are what made Jordan. It’s a complete joke.
Jordan scored 63 so who cares.The win is what is more important says the Lebron haters and Jordan fans.😂
Pippen didn't take a lot of shots cause Jordan only wanted the glory for himself only.😂
@@jessiegomez8209 yeah well he didn’t disappear on his team the way your queen always does lmao. Jordan took a team that had never won a title and gave them six bro, it’s called a dynasty, something LeBalco will never have no matter how many all stars he has to carry him.
@@jessiegomez8209 also if the win is all that matters 6 rings with no finals losses is still way better than 10 finals appearances with six losses. On god nobody gets more credit for losing than LeBron freaking James 😂
@@NateO123 🤣The team won 6 you mean.Without a great team Jordan wins nothing.I thought you knew that.
I mean, Pippen saved Jordan like Shannon saved Elway 😂🤣😂🤣
Pippen was a tall Bronny James when he got drafted till MJ moulded him
Love the evolution of ur channel bro. Seriously keep it up. I wouldn't mind a 2hr 13m uncut upload lol but these will certainly suffice.
Jordan won the NCAA chip and the 1984 olympic gold medal as a collegiate player without Pippen or Phil Jackson!! Clearly Jordan could win without Pippen and Phil!!
The truth is they hated on MJ early on in his career, but he was relentless. He was undeniably great. Every single game became must-see tv. You stopped what you were doing because you knew he would do something absolutely amazing. He always delivered.
2:35 say it again, for the people in the back 👏
I love ya channel bruh 😎 keep it up
Pippen chose to not be as good as Jordan. He sacrificed his career so that Jordan’s image could be solid. Or whatever tf Nick Wrong and LeBron stans say.
Pippen has 3 seasons to become that guy and didn't. Jordan was that guy for years
@@Frazier16Read my last sentence genius.
He didn’t choose nothing. He wasn’t as good as Jordan. And that’s ok.
@@terellwhite3361 How old are yall? Cuz the reading comprehension levels are showing. Read my entire original comment again. And read the last sentence slow.
Its actually insane how dominant MJ was when you take a detailed look. Its easy to ignore if you werent around to watch it happen in real time. No one else has ever had the ability to completely take over a game, a series, or a whole season.
Love this series, UC! You never fail us bro
it has been over 20ys since MJ last played...yet we are still talking about him and his greatness (an no sign of slowing down).....no other player in the history of professional sports has had that type of influence...that is true longevity!!!...PED cant even compete with that...right Lejuice?
I'll never understand this argument. Jordan played 3 seasons total before Scottie arrived, and he was the 3rd overall pick because the Bulls were awful. THe Bulls had to TRADE UP from the 8th pick and future picks to get Pippen as the 5th pick, and the Bulls won a playoff series when Pippen was a rookie and minor contributor.
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So we're just going to ignore WHO he played when "He didn't win anything". That Celtics team starting 5 are all in the Hall of Fame, minus Danny Ange, who should be. Basketball is a TEAM sport, and it wasn't JUST Pippen, it was GRANT, too. And then for the 2nd 3-peat it was RODMAN. He won 6 rings on two three-peats with one of the weakest supporting casts ever. You know who didn't win shit without Jordan? PIPPEN.
TOP 30 ALL TIME:
1. Michael Jordan - the greatest player and the greatest career in NBA history. Most dominant offensive force and one of the games best defenders. A literal, overpowered video game character.
6x Champ 6x FMVP 5x MVP 1x DPOY
2. Bill Russell - BILLY. Russell is the greatest winner and greatest defensive force in NBA and sports history. A legend on/off court. The key to NBA first dynasty.
11x Champ 5x FMVP 5x MVP
3. Magic Johnson - the great PG ever (so far…). REVOLUTIONIZED his position and saved the NBA. He has the highest assist avg. all time and went to the Finals 7/12 seasons between his rookie season and first retirement. Remarkable. Magical.
5x Champ 3x FMVP 3x MVP
4. LeBron James - the greatest longevity in sports history. One of the most dominant forces ever and top5 all round player. ALLTIME points leader and the only player to keep up this quality of play this late into a HOF/Mt Rushmore career.
Still.. counting.
4x Champ 4x FMVP 4x MVP
5. Tim Duncan - best PF ever. One of the most fundamentally sound players ever. Played both ends at the highest level for 15 seasons. BIG Fundamental
5x Champ 3x FMVP 2x MVP
6. Kareem Abdul Jabar - owner of the most dominant go-to move on offense. The HOOK. The previous scoring leader and lead all points for 4 decades. The greatest BASKETBALL career ever.
Prep to Pro.
6x Champ 2x FMVP 6x MVP
7. Kobe Bryant - see number 1 and dilute the athleticism and physical intangibles and that’s what you got.
Arguably the greatest warrior in NBA history. Bean lead LA to 7 titles in his 20 year career and took 5. A gladiator, general, philosopher and true sage of the game … forever missed.
24everMamba.
5x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
8. Shaquille O’Neal - the most dominant ever. The immovable object/unstoppable force. Shaq was the definition of dominance. Should’ve been the goat. Nobody was in better position to take the crown of GOAT from MJ since Shaq in 04’. Yes.
NOT Kobe, NOT LBJ. DIESEL.
4x Champ 3x FMVP 1x MVP
9. Larry Bird - maybe the most legendary on the list. Precursor to Jokic but better. One of the most skilled & clutch players ever.
In any sport. LARRY LEGEND.
3x Champ 2x FMVP 3x MVP
10. Hakeem Olajuwon - back to back.
The best of the mid90’s and second best player in the era. Hakeem is like Russell but with AllNBA offensive ability.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
11. Wilt Chamberlain - the games most prolific scorers. Arguably it’s greatest defender as well. The man could do it all. Even lead the league in assist at 7”2. Wilt IS unparalleled.
GOAT athlete.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 4x MVP
12. Steph Curry - the games most prolific shooter and one of its greatest scorers. The only unanimous MVP and the first ever. The catalyst for the current style of NBA basketball. REVOLUTIONIZED the game forever. STILL GOING.
Splash Bro.
4x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP
13. Isaiah Thomas - ZEKE. CP3 before CP3 but nastier and meaner. A warrior and one of the games greatest strategist and generals. Quietly a top5 passer.
2x Champ 2x FMVP
14. Oscar Robertson - the greatest all around basketball player ever. Could do everything at a AllNBA level.
Changed the way players were interpreted and influenced generations.
1x Champ 2x MVP
15. Kevin Durant - the Slim Reaper is likely the most ideal offensive weapon ever. Can hit from anywhere, anytime over anyone. Hard to beat and impossible to match that level of offensive dominance.
2x Champ 2x FMVP 1x MVP
16. Julius Erving - The good Dr., the FIRST MJ (before Magic & Jordan), The icon and face of BOTH leagues that saved the game in the 70’s. Kareem was the best but Doc was a close 2nd. Underrated statistical brilliance. Was like a 6’7-6’8 Giannis but with a better jump shot.
3x Champ (1 NBA) 2x FMVP 4x MVP (1 NBA)
17.. Moses Malone - CHAIRMAN OF DA BOARDS. Arguably the best board getter… ever. Only Wilt, Russell, Rodman and Thurmond belong in the same discussion. Moses lead his people to the promise land more than once but was able to claim immortality in the early 80’s. His team lead by the dynamic duo of he and Doc dominated the league. Before Lakers v. Celtics it was 76ers v. Celtics-Lakers.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 3xMVP
18. John Havlicek - the GREAT one. MJ is 6-0.
Ole Johnny is 8-0. The offensive force off the bench or starting that lead the dynastic Celtics to all 8. Early in his career he was akin to Jordan Poole role on Warriors 22’ team but better at everything but the 3 ball.
Then in the late 60’s-70’s he sat in captains seat. His career is a unique mix.
Played like Pippen with elite perimeter shooting/scoring, early career was early Kobe-esque, late career MJ/Kobe-esque.
John’s game rose in the playoffs.
8x Champ 1x FMVP (likely 4x)
19. Giannis Antetokounmpo - it’s getting freaky… GreekMan is literally on the ride to potentially threatening Tim’s best PF title.
If he can add a couple more rings to his already HOF profile he will likely be the new PF or TOP 5 player. Yea. THAT GOOD.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP 1x DPOY
20. Jerry West - The LOGO. Steph Curry before Steph. The man that built the LA franchise along Baylor post Mikan era.
Jerry West was the blueprint skill base for players like Kobe, MJ, TMac, etc
At 6’2-6’3 he torched his opponents his entire career and dropped plenty of dimes.
The ORIGINAL combo guard. So damn great he LOST and still won FMVP… case closed.
1x Champ 1x FMVP
21. Nikola Jokic - the Joker is no damn joke.
Genuinely a candidate for potential GOAT if his career pans out in the extreme positive like that of the top 10. Jokic is in a unique place being the greatest passing big statically NBA history (excluding Magic).
If Jokic finds a way to fit more jewelry in his fingers, we might have to have a real discussion about that greatest Center of all time discussion. Yes. Potentially a top 5 player alert.
1x MVP 1x FMVP 3x MVP (should’ve been 3 consecutive but you know
22. Rick Barry - The ACTUAL “White Mamba”. Just predated the black one… Barry was the answer up until 85’ when you asked who the best SF ever. His game was similar to West but 6’7 and a better FT%. Controversial, cerebral and iconic.
Had so much game he had to share what was left with his sons…
1x Champ 1x FMVP
23. Kevin Garnett - The Big Ticket. The 00’ Giannis. In every way but he had a better jumper midrange and beyond. KG was a monstrosity on OFF/DEF in his prime much like his modern comparison.
Led the TWolves to relevance and led the 08’ Celtics to a chip. Truly the BIG TICKET.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP
24. Dirk Nowitzki - DIGGLER. The one and only. The German Bird. THE Maverick. Dirk is one of the most beloved, iconic and acclaimed players ever. The 00’s stretch big supreme.
Dirk was able to take the Mavs to immortality over 11’ Heat in arguably the most surprising run ever.
Only Dirk. Forever the DIGGLER.
Arguably, the GOAT Euro player.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 1x MVP
25. Bob Pettit - Big Blue was the first stretch 4 in the games history. That’s for starters. Pettit was a tenacious rebounder and highly skilled scorer.
He was much akin to K. Love of his era but in better shape and played defense. Think a smaller Dirk who grabbed boards like Love but in the 50’s-60’s era. Not only that, much like Dirk, Pettit lead a historic upset over Russell’s Celtics. A true champ.
1x Champ 1x FMVP 2x MVP
26. Dwayne Wade - The Flash.
Wade County. The greatest Heat in NBA history. Wade is arguably the best defensive player at his position and easily too3 (MJ, Kobe). Led the Heat to a title in 06’ in historic fashion against Dirks Mavs.
Then winning a couple more as LBJ’s Pippen. His career was like Kobe’s… in reverse. Wade’s early injuries reduced his maximum career output but yet here he is… says a ton.
3x Champ 1x FMVP
27. Elgin Baylor - The PROTOTYPE.
Before West, Julius, Thompson, Wilkins, MJ, Hardaway, Kobe, Carter, TMac, Wade, Ant etc
There was Elgin Baylor. The first Air, the first Mamba, the first Half Man/Amazing, Flash etc
Baylor spearheaded an era that hardly wanted his talents there but had no other choice but to be in awe of it.
Think Harden, in shape but not as good of a playmaker, twice the rebounder and a better defender.
That’s Elgin.
*left a season before historic LAL title win
28. David Robinson - The Admiral.
The USA’s biggest weapon in the 90’s was also one of the greatest ever.
Made the spurs relevant pre-Duncan and post. Has some of the greatest seasons statistically. Think Giannis but 7’2 with a lefty and 15 footer plus an even better defender.
2x Champ 1x MVP
29. Karl Malone - the Mailman was LBJ minus the handles and vision.
King of the pick n roll.
1x MVP
30. Charles Barkley - The Round Mound of Rebound was the Tasmanian devil in a basketball jersey.
Prime 25 5 13 guy.
Impact everywhere he went.
OG DREAMTEAM member by the way…
1x MVP
30 (?) Clyde Drexler - The Glide. One of the most useful all around talents in nba history. One of the greatest two way players ever. Helped every squad he went to become a contender.
1x Champ
* HONORABLE MENTION:
McHale, Nash, Harden, Parker, CP3, Stockton, Walton, Payton, Westbrook, Drexler, Ewing, Sam Jones, Cousy, Pierce, Iverson, McAdoo, Frazier, Unsled, Reed, Webber, English, A. Davis
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My feedback is I have no idea what you prioritize on your list. Duncan over Kobe tends to lend towards a list that prioritizes defense, yet we have Magic significantly ahead of Bird and Kareem despite those 2 being much better on the defensive end. Olajuwon also ends up pretty low for a defense oriented list, as he can frequently get the nod over Shaq in such a list. I would say rings then is the difference maker on this, as Wilt and Olajuwon ended up on the lower end, but I feel like Kareem is getting underrated on a list that heavily values rings. My next guess would be finals MVPs, but that would tend to elevate LeBron and Shaq to higher than where they ended up, and Oscar Robertson would go down a fair bit.
Your explanations just feel generic, and don't give any sense of relative value. It seems like you put up an arbitrary list, and just said great things about each player. If you put some reasoning for why you rate some players higher than others (even if it is eye test, which is perfectly legitimate) it's a lot easier to make a discussion out of it.
Lebron, Zeke, and Giannis all to high. Lebron isn’t top 10. Zeke probably in the 20’s and Giannis is not a top 30 all time. Bird is way too low. Jokic is a very tough one. And as good as KD is I just can’t see putting someone there that can’t lead a team.
@@jaketerpening3284 It’s simply an all encompassing list. I remember back when people used to comprise these list, NOBODY asked criteria. It was simply, whos better?
Who’s best? Interesting.
If I were to express a criteria or way I gage the quality of a player:
1. Career accolades/individual performance
2. Team/Franchise accomplishments - Rings/Winning%
3. MAKE & MODEL/positions/ability
4. The EYE test - mobility/ability on court
5. State of the Union - Eras. Rules. Culture.
That’s really it.
@@Mhr6685 Zeke is the only player to defeat the NBA trinity of Magic/MJ/Bird in their primes. He did it twice. Back to back.
One of the greatest playmakers ever.
Easily top20.
LeBron minus PED’s is nothing less than a Top5 player based on him being the best ever at his respective position, SF.
ALLTIME point leader, 4x 🏆 .
Giannis is on the verge of challenging the GOAT at his potion if he wins more and gains more career accolades. Likelihood? HIGH.
Dude isn’t even 30.
God forbid he plays til 38-40. Likely.
LeBalco doesn't belong with ANY greats. He has WAY too many holes in his game, flops a lot, and cries to refs (MID PLAY)when things don't go his way.
There are plenty of videos exposing his flaws.
You can also see it this way: Jordan never lost a finals series once Pippen joined him; LeBron still lost finals series with Wade, Bosch, Love, and Irving (who was injured).
In the clip of one of the playoff games against the Pistons at 32:25 when MJ drives to the foul line and goes up, the way Rodman collapses and does that loud ass yell/whaaaaa had me in stitches 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
(I think it was Rodman, watching on mobile and hard to see.)
Can you do a series of videos like this for every MJ playoff run? That’s would be amazing and help us appreciate him more
I watched MJ & Pippens entire career its hilarious to me how thes fools are trying to make pippen like some generational talent just to pump up Lebron its so see through 😂😂😂😂
What the media doesn’t want you to know? Guess they don’t know that there were people alive back then who actually watched the games
Uncut with another banger!!
Jordan was doin b4 melo... long b4 melo... so it's not jordan looked like melo... no, it's melo looked similar to jordan in the iso. And for the record... Jordan was a much better finisher at the rim than kyrie...kyrie isn't near as consistent as MJ was...
11:00 "He's never scored 50 on me"
One of the many, many famous "And I took that personally" moments in MJ's career.
Laimbeer actually was a pretty decent 3pt shooter, especially for a C in his era. There was a 4 year stretch(including the 2 title years) where he shot 34.6% on 1.4 attempts per game.
Pipen may have not saved MJs career, but MJs career without Pipen wouldn't have been the same. Simply because, as good as his numbers were, he won rings, aided by Pipen, a great roster and the best coach.
Even MJ recognized that himself.
So, are you gonna deny what MJ acknowledged?
0:01 Shannon Sharpe is a peon compared to Shaquille O’Neal. The GOAT - Michael Jordan & Shannon Sharpe were both eligible for their respective Hall-of-Fames in 2009. One of these 2 men got in to the HOF in 2009 and the other man was rejected from the HOF in 2009. The guy who was rejected in 2009, tried to get into the Hall-of-Fame again the following year in 2010, and dude was rejected AGAIN! He came back for a 3rd time crying and begging in 2011, and finally and mercifully the committee let Shannon Sharpe into his Hall-of-Fame in 2011. Michael Jordan went into his Hall-of-Fame 2 years earlier in 2009. Likewise, as soon as Shaquille O’Neal became eligible for the Hall-of-Fame in 2016, just like the GOAT - Michael Jordan, Shaquille O’Neal got into the Hall-of-Fame immediately, ON HIS FIRST TRY….not on his THIRD TRY like Shannon Sharpe begged for. 🤷♂️ 💯
Sterling was better. WAAAAAAAAY better.
Is that true? That he tried 3 times? And yes, Sterling was that guy before moss and owens until his neck injury
@@boombastic108 Yes it's not even close. Sterling was always the better player and Shannon was the court jester just like he is now.
12:41 Jordan fouled, no call, no complaining and watch him hustle back, you don't see a lot of that today.
20:00 Price was lethal from 3, insanely underrated player.
The most surprising fact here: Richland Coliseum held over 20,000?!?! Their current arena doesn't even hold that. Back when real fans could go to games...
To avergae 35+ points a night AND be a dominant shut down defender in that era with how physical it was is to appreciate the player he was.
If Bron played in the MJ era he'd have exactly zero rings.
i always say watch the pippen charity game. a mj baseball body vs pippen in his prime playing
Contrary to the delusions of many LeBron fanboys, Pippen's presence or absence had nothing to do with Chicago's first playoff series win. Rather, it was whether or not Jordan could play at an all-time MVP level that completely transcended normal MVP level, which means that the Chicago roster was so weak enough and the Eastern Conference was a hell of a place at the time that Jordan had to play at an all-time MVP level in his fourth year to win a 1st round playoff series.
You all are amazing ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Jordan doubling the point scoring averages of the next best player in the series, unreal!
It's really sad how you have to take 37 minutes to explain to the modern generation how good he really was.
Finally a long video
Vince mcmahon cut away killed me hahahahahahahahaha
I’m a 72 yr old grandma who watched them play before #Mike and after #HisAirness.
The woke nba can 🧢 all they want but #AirJordan will always #TheGoat no matter
Who he had to train to help him! 🙄
The big difference between Jordan and Kyrie is Jordan was going through a double team to be met by 2 more guys. Kyrie is beating 1 man and meeting 1 or 2 guys.
Uncut Hoops = MJ video 🐐
They act like Pip's 8 ppg his rookie year was the deciding factor for Jordan getting out of the first round.
The truth is Jordan is #1 all time. Pippen is #2 all time. That fact doesn't diminish either of them. It just shows you how great players were in the early 90s compared to any other time period
I don't understand the Jordan slander. I think nowadays, people only root for players and not root for teams. They will go all in for their players while people who root for teams understand that player's true value. As a Knicks fan, that man made my team his highlight reel without any spacing. I don't say he's the best player because I'm a fanboy, I say it because he was fucking unstoppable and a complete psycho who only wanted to win. Hated that guy back in the day, but i appreciated what I saw from his game at my team's expense.
Ok, for the last time.
The Pippen argument doesn't hurt MJ goat status in ANY way.
In fact, it PROVES MJ is the GOAT.
No doubt Pippen is an All Star and amazing defender and playmaker. He is a career just under 20ppg.
Nobody debates that he is MJs strongest teammate. And see, THATS ALL JORDAN NEEDED. ONE ALL STAR PLAYER.
Compare that to the "Lebron never had help" fucking all star rosters that this man had, and still couldn't get it done half the time.
Give Jordan ONE all star player and he got it done!
MJ was still great without Pippen. Pippen was the right piece for MJ. I still bet MJ could have gotten 3 or 4 without Pip. People also forget MJ was dealing with alot of issues outside the court as well. Yes, Self inflicted but he still was dealing with issues.
Actually chicago didn't get pippen through the draft. They got him in a trade with Seattle on draft night and alot of people dont even realize that Horace Grant was actually looked at as the better prospect of the 2 at that time.
Scottie Pippen was a beast! Without him the Bulls would have lost against the Celtics and Pistons even in 1991. He was the main reason the Pistons lost! Even John Salley from the Pistons admitted that in an interview! Quote “we had no answer for Pippen.” Pippen could play position 1-5. MJ was absolutely amazing player but never 🏆 without Scottie Pippen! MJ bullied his teammates but Scottie kept the team together! 👍🏽👍🏽
And once again I love the video shout out to you brother keep it up do not stop spreading this truth
Big difference on getting a unproven guy for help than picking superstars for help 😂