Can a cheap $40 planer get you professional results?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2019
- kazumakinoshitasurfboards.com Due to a popular demand, here is a no frills freestyle handshaping video using a $40 stock Wen planer to shape a 9'0" longboard. Without the adjust on the fly modification you will see me do a few things differently to compensate for the planers limitations. Using a stock planer is definitely slower, more clumsy and leads me to have much less confidence in my cuts which results in more checking my work to confirm my cuts. In the end, I still get the exact finished product that I want and you would not be able to tell which planer the shape was made from. Disclaimer: from the point that I left off there is still at least 30 minutes of finish shaping to make it a showroom quality shape and I did not take the usual 15 minutes of measuring rocker / foil before during and after shaping.
Short answer...YES !
It would be awesome if you did a video just about planer technique. I’ve shaped a couple dozen boards and still feel like I never can get a nice even cut, or get through a board without gauging some chunk with the planer. Thanks!
Cheaper planers work fine with some caveats. (1) You can hear the motor lugging along the stringer which makes rougher cuts and (2) burns the brushes out quicker which (3) burns the motor out quicker. If you're not a production shaper, no real reason to *not* use a cheaper planer; but I would make some modifications and go slow and steady. Great videos. I'm a new subscriber.
Your planer work is honestly incredible... !
Thank you
Will be doing my 9’ soon too and I watch ur videos right before I turn on my planner for pump 🆙🤙
Brilliant!! Goes to show anything is possible...
Confidence born of time and repetition. My elapsed time is more like 29 hours than 29 minutes.
Thanks again for another great video.
I do want one of those cordless circular Sanders. The soft pad seems to do amazing at cleaning up blank.
It has changed my life 🙂
@@kazumasurfboards Master at work! Is that what looks to be a Milwaukee polisher modified into a sander?
I use a $70 Ryobi and works fine. No mods on mine.
amazing work! thanks. what grit is the blue sanding block?
The blue sanding block is 80 grit
Hi Matt, I noticed you used a circular saw to cut the outline of the blank… now if I have a thick 3 inch+ longboard blank that I would like to do the same with, what size circular saw should I buy, as far as, the blade maximum adjustment cutti g depth capacity? I have seen some Ryobi cordless saws with 6 1/2 inch blade and like a 2 inch maximum cutting capacity and a brushless (quite a bit more money) with a 7 1/4 inch blade with a 2 7/16 inch maximum cut depth capacity...
What kind is the one you used in this video (as far as blade cutting depth, brushless, etc.)? Thanks for all your great videos and responses. I appreciate you very much.
On really thick board my 7 1/4" blade won't cut all the way through so I simply use a razor knife to finish the cut all the way through.
@@kazumasurfboards Thanks so much...Respect!
I currently use an older model Bosch planer, that was around the same price as this one, and all I know is that it does not like eps foam. And that's with a vacuum attached too. Been wanting to get the cordless Makita or Hitatchi. Also, when planing down the nose and tail, are you sticking with the same depth cut when moving towards the center of the board? Or are you adjusting the planer depth every time you make a pass then going over the entire bottom after you've got your rough rocker measurements? Thanks for the videos!
Your makita may be a single blade model and that would explain the eps trouble. In most cases I do full nose to tail cuts at a set depth and the same towards the center unless I am trying to add concave in one step.
It’s a double bladed planer. I think I’m just moving too quickly across the blank. If you get a customer wanting a bellied bottom please make a video!!! I’d love to see how you approach The blank.
cool video!
can you send a link to buy the soft pad you are using? (the blue one)
www.flexpadusa.com/
@@kazumasurfboards thanks.
One more question ) you use Makitta tools? What RPM should i run when shaping EPS foam or cleaning EPS came out from CNC
@@kobymaymonsurfboards7320 makita makes amazing tools. I like 1500 rpm to start
Hi, I was wondering if the Skil 100 is worth buying? It seems like the gold standard. I have the Hitachi with the drum but those Skil Planars look look awesome. Also what it your take on Accurate Planer? Again, love your videos.
The Skil 100 is an amazing planer that works perfectly straight out of the box. (well, unmodified since they haven't been made in 35 years) the Skil is perfectly balanced, perfect ergonomics and is the reason surfboard look the way that they do. The negative is that you can't buy parts for them which is a scarry thing because if it breaks you may not be shaping for a while. Other planers like the Hitachi, Bosch, makita can be repaired anywhere and anytime. The accurate is a beautiful planer that gets you the Skil feel and parts are available so it is a much better option if you can only have one planer. Once you get used to a particular planer, it is hard to use something else so you want a planer that can be fixed or replaced anytime necessary. I recommend a Skil if you can afford to have 2 or 3 of them.
@@kazumasurfboards Thank you so much.
Good vídeo thanks. I will shape my first surfboard but I dont know what model planner buy. What planner not modificated do you recomended? Hitachi p20st or Hitachi p20sf ? Or other model? is my first shape Foam and I would like to have a good planner with good price. Thanks.
The Hitachi p20st is a very good and solid planer right out of the box and will give you hassle free performance. This cheap Wen would be my first choice because I could buy 2 of them at half the price of a Hitachi.... This is by far the best deal
@@kazumasurfboards hello. I dont find a Hitachi p20st ( I think is descatalogated). What do you opinión Hitachi P20 SF? Is similar to p20st? I like Hitachi model.
I think the sf is the 240 volt version
@@kazumasurfboards thanks Kazuma
I never see you use calipers. You can feel or know how many passes? Also, what pocket plane is that?🤟🏼
I use calipers but usually not on the bottom as I am only retting my proper rocker curve abd it is the deck side that I get the finished thickness. My little plane is a Stanley 12001
And what is that planar on you're website?
Not sure which one you are referring to because I use 6 different brands regularly. Hitachi, Skil, Bosch, makita, Rockwell and wen. The Hitachi is my favorite overall.
@@kazumasurfboards It's the one on the blank 8 photos in. Okay maybe I'll stick with the Hitachi and use the money for more blanks. Just those Skils look so nice. Thank you so much for the info and your videos. Mahalo and have a great day.
Hitachi is the best...
If I go that fast with my planer it makes rip marks everywhere on the board
Normally that is what happens for me also, either the blades on this planer are amazingly sharp or the blank is better than Normal..... I wish I would have tried a other planer on a pass to confirm..
What model planer was it for $40? And did it pass the test? Critique?